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  1. 45 minutes ago, lysanderayumi said:

    But I am not talking about raising Byeori as the main point, I'm talking about his petty actions and the fact that he's one sidedly deciding things. Please look at my context too.

    Though I do think they'll end up raising Byeori for a bit because drama logic.

    :sweatingbullets: It’s good that you’re not a petty person. I think most people are petty. They probably won’t admit it but it’s true. I see and hear it in my work place, in my family, among my friends and generally, in humanity. I think Joong Han is acting very flawed as most humans do who see only their pain and who hold grudges against others for hurting them. Yes, even adults and parents lash out at those who hurt them. Quite frankly, in these circumstances I don’t find Joong Han’s point of view and behavior uncommon. I don’t like how angry he gets even when Hae Shim brings up the issue but that’s mainly because I like peace and quiet. :lol: I also don’t like to see how this issue is impacting their marriage harmony.
     

    In any case, I can easily say I have family members who are just as petty and fight each other and stop talking to each other regularly. I have two aunts who don’t talk to each other for no valid reason at all. They cut each other off. I’m sure lots of people have witnessed these kinds of things in real life because my friends and acquaintances talk about similar experiences in their families or among  friends.

     

    @lysanderayumiAbout deciding things one-sidedly, I’m not sure what you mean. Do you mean not deciding things with Hae Shim? As far as I’m concerned she’s the only person he needs to make decisions with because she’s his partner. Ahri doesn’t get to decide “with” him.

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  2. @lysanderayumi, as far as I remember, Joong Han referred to his circumstances when he said he’s not foolish to raise another man’s child. Please look at the context. He wasn’t making a general statement. Context is very important in interpreting his meaning. 
     

    Regarding SK, through their shows I do realize that divorced parents and single mothers are discriminated against. I don’t think it was only the case in SK though. Even in the West those things used to be frowned upon. It’s just that things changed long time ago in the West so that single parents and divorced parents are more accepted. 

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  3. 55 minutes ago, lysanderayumi said:

    No but my thing (I didn't explain it well) is him pointing out that someone raising another man's child is foolish, especially with the same old line of we don't share blood. This is legit my pet peeve from getting a degree in Korea studies, they use those same lines from condoning child drop off boxes to the fact that unwed mothers couldn't register children in their family registry until fairly recently.I do concede your point about stepparents wanting to be liked by step children but there's a part where its too obvious. Hae Shim is the perfect point of in between whereas Ah Ri's dad even before Byeori came into the picture come off as apathetic and indifferent about his daughter. Like in the 1(?) where he's thinking Hae Shim for liking Ah Ri, he just starts of with she's this this but thankfully you're a saint. Like even if he doesn't like Byeori that's fine but the fact that he's one sidedly decided to cut off his daughter from the family at large because she's trying to take care of her blood like he says he did with her strikes me off wrong. He doesn't have to raise his ex wife's child but he doesn't get to be angry that his daughter is trying to took responsibility for her. I saw other commenter saying the Bio dad should step up and yeah he should but y'know nobody apart from us viewers know he's alive and that Dae Ro is probably Byeori's brother. Furthermore, even when Ah Ri said she'd send Byeori to an orphanage her dad was basically fuming and maintaining that she shouldn't have any contact with her after that. That is incredibly callous, even if there's some deep pain.  And just because we're in pain doesn't give us excuses for all the actions we take while in pain. If it did having fits of emotion wouldn't give anyone jail sentences in the 21st century.

    Indeed you might not like SK’s value of blood ties but it’s their culture. I find them rather harsh about several things but I acknowledge that cultures think differently on family matters. Who am I to tell them that blood isn’t important when most people of all cultures indeed value their biological family? In the West people are simply more open to adoption because of our compassion, moral teachings and/or our desire to do good or feel good about ourselves.
     

    Regarding Joong Han, I don’t disagree with his refusal to raise his ex-wife’s child. It’s his right. Even here in the West I believe a person would find it ridiculous to raise the child of their ex-wife especially if they can’t stand that ex-wife. It’s not even like it’s a child that she brought to the marriage, which would be an entirely different story. It’s a child that was conceived, most likely from the man she left him for. It was revealed in today’s episode that she felt unloved and neglected and left him for another man. If he’s still bitter about the whole thing, would he even consider raising this child? No. And there are lots of people in real life who wouldn’t do it either. Raising a child is a lot of responsibility and why would he make that sacrifice again?

     

    About Ahri, she made the decision to walk out of the house on her own two feet. The father didn’t kick her out. It’s great that she wants to raise Byeori but she will need to stand on her own two feet. The father told Hae Shim basically not to act as a crutch for Ahri. Since Ahri made the decision to raise her sister, she should understand the responsibility as well. What the father did is not unlike arguments that young adults have with their parents. I can’t count the number of times I have heard, “If you can’t live by my rules then don’t live under my roof”. To me this whole scenario with Ahri and her father is as generic as the disowned, rebellious child in the perspective of a parent for going against their will. It might be harsh, but I do think that if a person is old enough to make these big decisions, that person should be old enough to bear the responsibility. So even if the father is harsh, he doesn’t have to feed and clothe the child that doesn’t obey him. So, I see both sides of the matter with Ahri and her father.

     

    About hurting others, people do it every day even more so in families. People will be hurt and hurt others until the day they die. Excuse or no excuse. 

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  4. @lysanderayumi, why wouldn’t Joong Han raise Bora? Bora’s mother is raising Ahri. I don’t get your point at all. Both parents brought a kid to the marriage. Hae Shim acts like a mom to Ahri and Joong Han acts like a dad to Bora. In fact, right now Joong Han takes care of Bora and Hae Shim is looking out for Ahri. 
     

    With Byeori it’s entirely different. She is not Hae Shim’s child and she is not a Joong Han’s child. Neither of them are obligated towards Byeori. 
     

    As far as Joong Han treating Bora better, it might be the case but that’s probably because she’s his wife’s child. He probably wouldn’t treat her harshly like Ahri because she’s not his biological child. Unfortunately that happens in step families because the non-biological parent wants to be liked by the non-biological child. It happened in the wonderful weekend family drama Five Is Enough.
     

    I can also say that Hae Shim treats Ahri nicely and cautiously too. Notice that she didn’t make a fuss when Ahri took her truck and hindered her flower delivery business. It took Bora to tell off Ahri and demand that she apologize to her mother. 
     

    Indeed I don’t like how angry Joong Han was about who Byeori is but I can also understand his point of view. Even if a viewer doesn’t like the way he’s acting, he has every right to act that way since he alone knows what happened with his ex-wife and the grievances he may feel. I mean, really, why does he have to raise his ex-wife’s child? It’s not his child or his wife’s child or even his sibling’s child.

     

    In today’s episode we find out that Joong Han might have neglected his wife for work and he didn’t romance her and  tell her nice things like he does with Hae Shim now. At least he learned from his mistake. And then on the ex-wife’s fault, it seems like she took Joong Han’s money and gave it to another man and left him for another man. That’s all that was said so far. So it seems both were at fault. However, this doesn’t change the fact that Joong Han doesn’t want to have anything to do with his ex-wife and her relations.

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  5. 2 hours ago, Lmangla said:

    @celebrianna ~ re: your question

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    in the original, she and the second lead do date for a bit but eventually with the secret about his family and everything else, it becomes a permanent break-up. she does end up with the male lead but there 's a time gap but it made sense. they basically needed time apart after all the madness that happens....

     

    Thanks for the confirmation. 

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    Yes, I read she finally gave the second lead a chance after he wooed her for a time. Male lead was also entangled with a fiancée that he felt guilty towards. I heard the second female lead is really the villain and not the second male lead. Well, judging from the second female lead’s motive, she is indeed a villain. However, what I didn’t see coming while reading the story summary is the truth behind the accident that killed the father. What a life changing event for all the characters that led all of them to the lives they were currently leading 10 years later.

     

     

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  6. 6 hours ago, tas82 said:

    Aaahh I see. I thought they just grew up around each other and she just always fancied her oppa. Yeah for sure Ah Ri will end up linking with Dae Ro maybe via Bo Ra? However they link it will be interesting to see how they realise the have a link in Byeori and sauna lady, and as her mum use to help Dae Ro I think he'll most definitely be more inclined to work with her. It'll be even more interesting to see how they reveal her birth secret, they'll be well shocked when they realise they share a sister. 

    @tas82, I think it was mentioned by either Sun Han’s (Sunny?) aunt or maybe it was Joon Soo’s mom that he used to date a producer name Sunny in America. That was around episode 1 or 2. I can’t remember exactly. Since Ahri’s producer showed up at Won Tae’s home as the niece, it’s clear that it’s her they meant. Also she basically hinted to Ahri yesterday that she knows Joon Soo and he would probably refuse her pitch so she instead wants Ahri to pitch the idea to him about the show. She also told Ahri not to mention her name as the producer. 
     

    For today’s episode, maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see how Chan Sung is at fault in the accident. Not only did he sustain a back injury, he was parked properly (it looked like) and was retrieving something from the truck. The rich lady, Jiran, on the other hand, was driving without lights and wasn’t attentive. Are Dae Ro and Chan Sung just ignorant or the traffic laws in SK are so different from other places? The truck door wasn’t even open to the extent of causing an accident. The lady was reckless by taking the corner so close and then running smack into Chan Sung. 
     

    It’s funny how I preferred Joon Soo but I find myself taking Dae Ro’s side in some of his arguments though not all. It’s probably good that Dae Ro quit though. He can focus on his business and I hope Ahri goes to him instead to pitch a food feature. She already realize who Joon Soo is so she will probably run away and present a different target to Sun Han instead. 
     

    I think the Food Report that Joon Soo’s father released years ago involved Dae Ro’s father’s ice cream business and prompted Joon Soo to leave SK to study abroad. When Bora brought up the Food Report with Joon Soo he looked very upset. I think there’s a disturbing story here involving Joon Soo, his father and Dae Ro and his father. Dae Ro already rudely rejected Joon Soo’s father in episode 1 or 2 so we already know there’s bad blood there.

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  7. 9 hours ago, Lmangla said:

    @shana0127 ~ like @maribella mentioned, in the original, she ended up with the male lead. however, this wasn't a typical triangle. will try not to give too many spoilers but part of the reason I loved this drama is that it dealt with the triangle in a very different way. it wasn't a case of "I don't know who I like" but instead, it was a case of trying to make peace with the past, figuring out why your last relationship failed. she agrees to date the second lead because she is convinced it is time to move on with her life. even the second lead wasn't some silly love obsessed twit because there were lots of other things going on in his head. not sure if this drama will have that kind of nuances from these actors. lets see...

    I read the summary of the old plot and 

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    did she really end up with the second lead? I thought she and the male lead get back together in the end. The summary I read said they coincidentally met in whatever beach/island that is memorable for them and they had a serious talk and decided that this was the right time for them to start again. It was three years after all the craziness ended. I think the most shocking revelation was the one regarding the second male lead’s family. How cold blooded could that father be? Wow! Just Wow! All for the sake of money?

     

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  8. 7 hours ago, nohamahamoud2002 said:

    I too prefer Ah Ri than Bora. I didn't like Ah Ri's dad dislike of Byeo Ri, who is just a young girl, also I disapprove of him slapping Ah Ri. He feels bitter towards his late ex-wife, but why does he vent his anger towards a child?

     

    Bora's wife is wiser than her husband. She is so kind to the child, despite being the ex-wife's daughter 

    @nohamahamoud2002, there’s a lot of baggage there with Joong Han. He’s also not obligated to like Byeori just because she’s a child. I don’t think it’s Byeori that bothers him but rather the fact that she’s his ex-wife’s child. I honestly have no problem with him slapping Ahri. Mothers-in-law do it all the time in these shows. A parent can do it as well. I don’t necessarily think he slapped her because of her honesty. I think he slapped her because he felt she was ungrateful to say that. Later he told Hae Shim, “how dare she say that to me after all the care I put into raising her?” So maybe he felt she was ungrateful because it was difficult to raise her on his own and he had to work and pay back debts at the same time. 
     

    It’s not like Ahri wasn’t cold to her mother too. I don’t know what happened but she also acted bitter with her mother and then the mother died suddenly. 

    Honestly, my hats off to Joong Han and Hae Shim if they eventually decide to raise Byeori. I don’t know who in their right mind want to raise an ex-spouse’s kid after already raising adult children. At that time in their lives it would be nice to relax and enjoy their relationship and also marry off their adult daughters. Not to mention there is a biological father walking around and not stepping forward to assume responsibility to raise his kid. Won’t he eventually show up and claim the kid after others have become attached to her?

     

    6 hours ago, tas82 said:

    Can't believe he slap her. She was out of line saying something so hurtful to the parent that "stuck around" but still no need for that slap, heat of the moment or not. Probably some truth in what she said as he probably wasn't as attentive as he is now. He was probably more work focused than family and wife's betrayal forced him to connect more with Ah Ri. Yes Byeori is innocent however to expect him to immediately accept that kid is ridiculous and although the wife is right in that child shouldn't suffer because of adults to me there is a bit of an "oh get over it" vibe to them wanting him to let Byeori stay which isn't fair to pops. Until he makes his peace with his hurt and pain also his own guilt for what ever happened in the past they have no right to force him to in essence hurry up and get over it.

     

    @celebrianna  remember Ah Ri is trying to write a up a concept for a new show and when she was talking to that waster PD who is trying to ride her coattails to success they were talking about a food show. This is where they'll all tie in. As the boys already have a concept and a good following. With Ah Ri's help and User waster girls connections they launch something similar on a network to a wider audience. User girl wants her to cast Joon Soo as she wants him but him but he ain't interested. String's will be pulled and situations manipulated so that some how they'll all end up working on this show together. 

    Yep, I feel the same as you about Joong Han. Right now my landlord and his wife are getting divorced and boy is it a nasty divorce. He doesn’t want anything to do with her and she the same. Joong Han probably feels the same way about his ex-wife. He doesn’t want anything to do with her and then here comes her child conceived with another man and somehow he’s suppose to raise her? It’s so ludicrous, really. He and Hae Shim might as well try to conceive their own child if they’re are going to start raising another kid this late.
     

    I honestly don’t know where the writer is going with this though. Will Ahri raised the child, will her biological father raise her or will Hae Shim and Joong Han raise her eventually? 
     

    @tas82, that producer is Joon Soo’s former girlfriend or something so she can’t approach him directly. However, I hope Ahri and her gets to Dae Ro instead. Right now they’re focused on Joon Soo but I want Ahri to discover Dae Ro. Maybe she accidentally gets one of his lunches. 

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  9. Previously I didn’t realize that it’s the actress that played Kang Sena in Love Until The End is the female lead in this show. I kept thinking her voice sounds like Sena and I finally looked her up on MDL and sure enough it’s her. 
     

    The first episode was okay. They’re introducing the characters and their connections to one another. I read up on the plot of the 2004 drama version to get a general idea of the story and I know this will get crazy. :sweatingbullets: I think I will enjoy these calm episodes in the meantime. 

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  10. Preview 12:

    Ahri: You know how startled I was?
    Byeori: I want to go home soon.

    Ahri: That inn is not our home.

    Joong Han: Don’t call or get Ahri’s calls from now on.

    Hae Shim: I happened to run into her.

    Hae Shim’s father: What is this? Is it a ghost?
    Cross-dresser: It’s so noisy.

    Dae Ro: Where are you? I’ll go.

    Bora: Why is it so dark over here?
    Dae Ro: Chan Sung-ah!
     

    I’m glad Dae Ro refused to collaborate with Joon Soo. I think he would lose his business concept if he did. I don’t think their target market is the same either since Joon Soo proposed a luxurious brand for the collaboration. Besides, it’s probably better to grow their own business in their own way. I somehow want Ahri to work with Dae Ro to promote his business, Wonky Lunchbox.

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  11. 30 minutes ago, lysanderayumi said:

    I like Ah Ri better than Bo Ra but she is rude, I think Bo Ra is worse though, she calls Ah Ri's dad 'Appa' but takes offense if Ah Ri call her mom 'Eomma', also considering Korean Hierarchy she's actually stepping out of line a lot, especially calling Ah Ri, her full name when it's considered rude in Korean culture. I get how Ah Ri decided to deal with Byeori but I don't approve of her not calling into work. I think Ah Ri's love line will be way more interesting though.

    Ahri is in for a rough ride with her loveline. It is blatantly clear that Ae Sook, Joon Soo’s mother doesn’t like Ahri much. Plus the mom already have it in her head that Joon Soo should marry into a prestigious family especially considering the success of his company and bright future. I am looking forward to their romance though. 

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  12. @mjmartinez, I think right now Byeori needs a stable home and I’m not sure that Ahri can provide that. They’re living in a motel right now where unsavory characters appear. That’s not a good environment for both Ahri and Byeori.

     

    Regarding Byeori living with Ahri’s father and stepmother, I think it would be unrealistic to have the father’s feelings towards the ex-wife resolve anytime soon. He’s been hating the ex-wife for years now. That’s why Ahri told Byeori to lie in the first place. I can’t see those feelings of bitterness disappearing soon. Only unless he gives in purely to get Ahri to return home. But then how uncomfortable will Byeori be living there knowing the father’s feelings? Notice the father said to get that child out of his sight. He’s very angry right now and won’t even listen to Hae Shim. So, I can’t see their home being a place where Byeori wouldn’t have to walk on egg shells. 
     

    Byeori will get more family members through her biological father. Dae Ro is probably her older brother. If he hooks up with Bora, she gets another sister. Then she has her biological father and Ahri. 
     

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  13. 22 hours ago, Sleepy Owl said:

     

    The relationship between Khun and Bam simply great and wonderful. Rachel I got to admit, is the most hated character of this anime/manhwa, she gets more hate than the villains we'll be seeing. I have not watched Hunter x Hunter, my friend used to watch it. Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is ranked #1 in many websites, including imdb, and I think it does deserve to be at the top (although I have watched not many anime). 

     

    Well God of High School, my friend told me that they fit 100 chapters in 13 episodes. So you can see why many think it is overrated, maybe also many must have found it rushed. I usually don't go for anime with MC having thick plot armor or is OP. I usually like to see the MC struggling, growing in the process, but still getting hit around and being defeated in fights. Like in Tower of God, I don't think anyone would have expected Bam to be pushed down like that, and we'll be seeing his struggles too. Same happens in Attack on Titan, Tokyo Ghoul and many more anime I watched. 

     

    The app for webtoons is called "webtoon". It is the official Application for "Naver Webtoon". There are many platforms in Korea for Manhwas, Webtoon is one of them and official platform for "Tower of God" and it is free. You just need to register with your email, and hundreds of webtoon will be in your hands. Just search "webtoon" in your app store, and you'll see which one to download. It belongs to Naver corp.

     

    There is option to buy "Fast Pass", which I never tried, it usually gives access to next 3 chapters altogether, giving you a head start to the next 3 unreleased chapters, which Non Fast Pass members don't have access to. I found this useless until or unless you want to help the author, since after getting hands on 3 chapters, you'll have to wait weekly for next chapter to release. You'll just be ahead of others by 3 chapters.  

    Glad to see lots of people hate Rachel too. :lol: I’m not into hating characters maybe except certain villains, and of course as I mentioned I ended up disliking Light Yagami, but Rachel I disliked even before she betrayed Bam. It didn’t take me long to like Anaak and Endorsi. I was always suspicious of Khun though because he’s the type who seemed like a manipulator and a betrayer for his own goals but his back story quickly shed light on why he operates that way and I understood him better. 
     

    Indeed it’s nice to see a character grow and become stronger. Look how Tanjirou evolves in battles. Fights also hone battle instincts. There are times though when I want to watch a genius from the start, which are rare protagonists. An example would be One Punch Man. Although the protagonist was just a regular job seeking unemployed dude who was returning home from a job interview, he impulsively defended a kid from a monster and ended up bloodied but defeated the monster. After that he worked out like crazy, even lost all of his hair :lol: but succeeded in becoming so strong that he’s undefeated.
     

    How can a plot remain interesting with a highly powered protagonist? It works because the protagonist is easy going, almost always bored, has little ambition, and very few people know he’s that strong because other heroes has been given credit for his work by mistake. So he officially signed up for the Hero organization and most of the top officials don’t even realize how strong he is otherwise he would be classified as Class A or S rank. Right now he’s Class B rank hero and still largely unrecognized by the public and the hero organization.
     

    Oh, thanks for the information on the webtoon app. I like free. I had already looked into a similar platform to read a webtoon but the fees were utterly ridiculous. I forgot what service it was but on Reddit people who had subscribed to it in the past also agreed that the pricing was ridiculous and extravagant.

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  14. @tas82, I don’t think people need to be detestable to enrage people. Don’t forget the airhead sister in Brilliant Heritage. She wasn’t exactly evil but she sure cause a lot of serious problems. The worse kind of people to deal with are the ones who prey on a person’s pity and eventually ruin the person who they take advantage of. I can see if the mother took shady debts things might have gotten ugly for Ahri and her father. What if they lost their house that they put a lot of money into buying? That’s pretty painful and to some people, unforgivable. Not to mention if they were constantly harassed by thugs. They say a lot of people get divorced over finances and worse if those finances were a burden that makes the divorce bitter. 
     

    Well, since we don’t know the story, I guess we have to wait and see. I know the father seem to have loved the ex-wife very much but that love has turned to hate. He even used the word “cruel” when referring to the ex-wife. Ahri was also a bit bitter with the mother in the beginning too. She blamed her for never looking after her and even said Byeori was lucky. 

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  15. @arcchidus, did you see episodes 29 and 30? I’m dying to know why 

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    Wen You injured ZQH like that. I hope she never forgives him. I was so mad. I hope she can still do martial arts. Since I don’t understand Chinese I was wondering if he did that to save her life or something but even the uncle Imperial guard was vexed with Wen You’s actions of doing that to ZQH. 

     

  16. 2 hours ago, Sleepy Owl said:

     

    Tree With Deep Roots was good. 

     

    I don't dislike exaggerated fights too, as long as they not too exaggerated. Six Flying Dragons did have some exaggeration in fight scenes, but close combat was excellent and very fast. You could actually feel the two characters are fighting to kill each other, and I liked it. Exaggeration was in the signature moves of some warriors, which was pretty cool since it was not overused, I would be disappointed if they would do it. But yes, I usually prefer realistic sword fights, fast, but not really exaggerated or atleast not too exaggerated.

     

    I have seen many Chinese movies, I liked watching "Red Cliff", if fight scenes are very similar to it, I am fine. I think that movie did have some realistic fights (I watched it long ago), apart from it, I have watched many Chinese Period movies, and liked them. I'll check the clips of "Nirvana in Fire" on YouTube before deciding to watch it. Jason Bourne did have some really good fight scenes, and realistic too as you mentioned. 

     

    Yes, 2 of my favorite dramas will end this week, Alice and Lies of Lies. I really hope they end them well, especially Alice by not leaving any questions unanswered. I am looking forward to Namgoong Min's Awaken, it seems interesting and well Namgoong Min does know which script to choose, and I was never disappointed by any of his dramas which I watched (Didn't watch "Beautiful Goong Shim"). I will be watching Kairos too, started "Spies who loved me" yesterday. Sisyphus: The Myth I think will air in 2021, I am interested in that drama too. I might give "Penthouse" a try too. 

    Yep, when I first started watch Korean drama shows I heard Tree with Deep Roots was good. 

     

    Hmmm. Hopefully Alice answers the major questions at least. These time travel drama shows like to end on questions. Train did, Nine Time Travels did and most time travel shows I have watched in some shape or form did as well. Signal wasn’t exactly time travel but even in that show although a certain important character changed his future, he still paid a price and his ending was uncertain. Maybe they will answer that question in Signal 2. 
     

    Indeed I like Namgoong Min drama shows especially the crime ones. Not many people seem to have watched Doctor Prisoner and Distorted but I liked those shows. Now he’s playing a brilliant detective and I don’t think I have ever seen him in that kind of role where he’s a police officer. 
     

    Oh Sisyphus myth is 2021? They need to update the thread with the right premiere year then. :lol: They still have 2020 on it. 
     

    I’ll definitely try Penthouse and The Spy Who Loved Me. I’m not really fond of spy stuff though just like I’m not fond of undercover cop shows and con artist shows. I think it’s because in all of them deception and danger is a way of life. The deception part is not something I can root me. I’m watching Private Lives even though I don’t like con artist shows but that seem to have a story beyond conning where the people involved are dangerous. I’m only on episode 3 so I don’t know what happened afterward in episodes 4 - 6.

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  17. 2 hours ago, mjmartinez said:

    I think Byeo Ri disappearance will affect Ah Ri deeply, since that's her regret to her biological mom when she's alive and it will create conflict between Ah Ri and her Father 

     

    I think Byeo Ri Biological Father will take care of her without letting anyone knows that he has byeo Ri 

     

    Maybe I'm over analyzing it :sweat_smile: but I'm hoping that Byeo Ri will let Ah Ri know that she's with granny 

    The biological father should come forward and take care of his kid. I couldn’t believe him when at the food stand Byeori told him that she’s staying at her sister’s house and he asked her if they’re nice to her and she said yes and he told her, “Then you can keep living there”. How shameless can he be! The mother raised her alone and it should be his turn now to step forward and take care of his child. 

     

    @tas82, it also really seems to be that the cross-dresser is Dae Ro’s father and therefore Dae Ro is Byeori’s older brother.

     

    It almost seems like the cross-dresser will try to live with Dae Ro. Things are getting weirder because that’s Hae Shim’s father’s house. So basically Hae Shim’s father’s house will now be occupied by the people connected with her husband’s ex-wife. Heh.

     

    What’s up with Bora’s biological father? He wants to reach out to his grown daughter now she’s an adult? Why didn’t he keep in touch with her? And Ae Sook is getting on my nerves. Why is she bothering Hae Shim about Won Tae, Bora’s biological father? The woman remarried and have a different life with her husband so why should she be concerned over whether the current wife of her ex-husband is treating him like a servant? 
     

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    Ae Sook: Is it because of that kid that Ahri brought?
    Joong Han: Don’t ever bring them up.

    Dae Ro: We should hire a new kitchen hand, right?
    Cross-dresser: Let me stay here for a few days.

    Dae Ro: What?
    Hae Shim’s father: I can never allow that!
    Voice: She disappeared after leaving this letter?
    Byeori: If it’s not for me, Ahri can..

    Cross-dresser: Stop crying. You should go to your sister now.

     

    Boy was Ahri’s father flipping mad when he found out whose child Byeori is. He seems to hate his ex-wife with a passion. I wonder if somehow the ex-wife invested in a business and lost their money because apparently they had debtors coming after them. That sounds like she did it behind his back because it doesn’t seem like he knew about the debtors. Even Hae Shim and Bora were shocked by his rage. He lashed out at Hae Shim when she rightly told him that Byeori is innocent in all this. The child is indeed a good kid. It’s a pity that Joong Han hates her mother so much. At least she and Ahri are bonding. Hopefully she gets settled in a stable home soon. I don’t know if Ahri can manage on her own because she didn’t even seem to have the money to pay Joon Soo for his phone.

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  18. 7 hours ago, Sleepy Owl said:

     

    Well, not many would have thought Rachel would do it. At least the ones I knew who were watching, except me, none of them was suspecting this to happen. Since the main theme of this anime is betrayal and backstabbing, for Bam to feel it, it had to be Rachel. Now that you have watched the anime, I would suggest you to read the Manhwa. There is webtoon app which is free and the official chapters are released on it. I really liked the story so far and the characters developments that happened. 

     

    I am yet to watch Assassination Classroom. I have thinking to watch it since the start of 2020, I think I will watch it in a couple of months.

     

    While watching Anime, I usually give extra attention to CGI and animation, and Demon Slayer was great in both of them. It was good throughout the Season 1, but was extra great in episode 19th. A friend of mine has been asking me to watch "God of High School" and said that it had much better animation in some scenes that the one in Demon Slayer's 19th episode. So I will give it a try, but it is good to see that "God of High School" had great animation, since the same studio will be producing Attack on Titan.  

    Yes, in most survival games like these, betrayal is a necessary component like in BToom or Hunter x Hunter. Hunter x Hunter, in particular I liked although the characters in Hunter x Hunter are more twisted and brutal at times. Funnily there’s a similarity in relationship dynamics between Bam and Khun and the protagonist of that show and Killua (assassin kid). This show is ranked #3 top anime by 1,414,000 members on Myanimelist and Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is ranked #1 by 1,984,000 members.
     

    In my opinion Hunter x Hunter should be #2 but there’s this show call Gintama (which is comedy and samurai stuff that people seem to like) that took the #2 slot despite having the same exact score and only 355,000 member votes. So technically both are tied at #2.

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    Usually I read a variety of opinions of an anime show to decide if it’s a show I might like. With God of High School, some people think it’s overrated and others don’t think this way. I think what made me put off watching it for a bit are some reviews that purported that the main character is wrapped in plot armor and gave examples. :lol: However, even those reviews said the animation of the fight scenes were good. 

     

    So what’s the free app for webtoons? 

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  19. @Sleepy Owl, thanks for that information. I have never watched Tree With Deep Roots though I have contemplated doing so a few times. I have to be in the mood to watch these kinds of drama. I still have to finish Rebel Thief which I have on hold for some time now. 
     

    So you don’t like exaggerated fighting? Why? I see it as a form of art. I know Rebel Thief had more realistic sword fighting. You won’t like Chinese drama show fighting then because their martial arts are exaggerated for the most part. It’s kind of funny that I think Jason Bourne’s fighting is more realistic than the martial arts in Chinese drama shows. I always remember his fight with an assassin in an apartment in Europe where they were grabbing everyday stuff in the house (like pens and books) and using them as a weapons. Heh. 
     

    Well tomorrow is the end of Lie of Lies and Alice. We’re both watching those shows. At least Kairos starts on Monday. I’m also becoming interested in upcoming drama shows Awaken with Namgoong Min and Sisyphus: The Myth with Park Shin Hye and Cho Seung Woo. 

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  20. 1 hour ago, tarjig said:

    I don't like Dae Ro's speech towards her either, however, I really don't like the attitude of either girl.  Bo Ra is sweet when she wants to be but is also very rude.  She really thinks she is better than Ah Ri (who is no better).


    Ah Ri is jus plain ole mean.  From the beginning of the show, I did not like the character's attitude.  First, she made the Byeo Ru lie about her mother being dead, then she tells the little girl she is going to send her to an orphanage, then lied to the parents, and so on. How are they going to change that?

    I didn’t like Ahri’s attitude for a different reason. I didn’t like the way she took her stepmom’s truck during a workday and acted like it’s no big deal. Her stepmom’s business was affected because she wasn’t able to make deliveries. The way Ahri behaved was selfish and she didn’t even apologize to the stepmom for taking the truck without permission. Another thing I didn’t like was the way she expected that not showing up for work for three days without informing her employer was okay. That was rude and irresponsible. She should have at least inform them that she had a family emergency.

     

    I don’t blame Ahri at all for telling Byeori that she will send her to an orphanage. How is she supposed to raise a kid when she lives at her parent’s house? I think it’s utterly ridiculous to expect her father and stepmother to raise Byeori. If her parents decide to take Byeori in after they find out the truth then that’s another story. Otherwise, it would have been shameless and presumptuous for Ahri to take Byeori home and expect her father to raise his ex-wife’s kid. And to booth an ex-wife whom that father seem to hate. Who knows if she left him or cheated on him with Byeori’s father. We don’t know their story yet. He must be bitter for a reason. Anyway, like Bora said, it’s unfair of Ahri to bring that trouble home to their parents. 
     

    Ahri was wrong to tell Byeori to lie but I think I understand why she did it considering the angry temper her father seem to have when the ex-wife is mentioned. Please understand that honestly these people are under no obligation to raise a stranger’s child who have nothing to do with them. If Ahri made good money and lived in her own place I can totally see her raising Byeori. To me what needs to happen is the biological father needs to step forward and take responsibility for his child.

     

    That said, I do like Byeori. I hope she gets to live in a stable home soon.

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  21. 2 hours ago, Sleepy Owl said:

    Talking about Sageuks, my first ever Korean Drama was Dae Jang Geum, one of the most famous Sageuks out there. Then I watched Emperor of The Sea and Jumong. Although I watched Dae Jang Geum as a kid, for me it still is a memorable drama. I have overall liked the in palace conspiracies done by ladies of palace in Sageuks, mostly based on Joseon Era. Plus some Sageuks like Six Flying Dragons and My Country: The New Age have some really good fight scenes. But some are really boring. I have heard a lot about "Princess' Man", but I am yet to watch it. Since many people on this forum have praised it, it is in my watchlist. 

     

    I have heard a lot about "Nirvana in Fire", and if I ever go for Chinese period dramas, I think this would be the first one I would watch. 

     

    Lord of the Rings, is simply amazing. I am yet to watch that movie in theatre, but I do own its extended versions, and usually watch them once in 3-4 months. I also made many friends because of it when I went to University. I remember having internet problem and going to meet a guy in hostel who had a big movie collection. I asked him about the movie and he said "Listen dude, I have the extended version", and I was like "I wouldn't take it if they were not extended versions" and then instead of giving it to me, he offered to watch them together, we watched it with my 2 other friends joining too 

    @Sleepy OwlI enjoyed Dae Jang Geum and Dong Yi sageuk shows. I tried Jumong and Six Flying Dragons but quit. How is Six Flying Dragons? I mainly felt inspired to try it after I watched Chicago Typewriter with Yoo Ah In. I wanted to see more of his acting. 
     

    Oh, you’re making me want to rewatch it soon. Sometimes when I remember Galadriel’s prologue, that alone inspires me to rewatch. Actually, my user name is based on Celebrian who is the daughter of Galadriel and Celeborn and the wife of half-elf Elrond and mother of Elrohir, Elladan and Arwen. Heh. She lived in Valinor at the time of the War of the Ring.

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  22. @Sleepy Owl, I watched Tower of God. It was interesting. I like this sort of anime. It’s a good thing you told me about it because when I started watching it today I realized that I had already watched episode 1 previously but it hadn’t drawn me in so I hadn’t continued with episode 2.
     

    I have to say all along I didn’t really like Rachel. At first I didn’t mind her but as Bam kept talking about her as his motivation, I became increasing annoyed by his motivation. I think it’s because there wasn’t too much shown of why he was so attached to her. I actually prefer all of Bam’s other friends including the initially hostile ones like Anaak.

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    So, after I reached episode 13, I was amazed that my intuition about Rachel paid off because as the episodes progressed she just seemed increasingly suspicious to me and sadly, I was delighted to finally find a concrete reason to dislike her. However, I know this anime trope and I expect Bam to sympathize with her after she betrayed him and make sure he helps her attain her dream. *roll eyes* This is often a trope that’s beaten to death in anime.

    All I hope for is that he gets a new motivation. How about reaching to the top with his friends or something that is his own desire. 
     

    For some reason when I watched this at times it brought to mind Assassination Classroom. I have no idea why because the story is different. Maybe it’s the characters that remind me of some of the characters in Assassination Classroom. Heh 
     

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    As for Demon Slayer, I think it was officially announced that the second season is in production. Season 1 was so famous, that it actually increased the manga sales, making its 2019 sales more than that of One Piece, which for certain manga is really a big achievement. And I got to admit, this anime had one of the best animation and CGI I have ever seen in any anime, the studios really kept the budget infinite, especially for that episode 19 which became a trending topic. The arcs in Season 2 will be much more better, the basic story will be same, there is a demon go hunt it, but the demons will be stronger, action will be more intense and brutal. So do look forward to the second season also to the movie whenever it gets released in your country. 

     

    @Sleepy Owl I must go back and watch that episode 19 of Demon Slayer. I hardly notice things like CGI though. :lol: I can only tell when things are really terrible to notice. :lol: Anyway, indeed I expect the opponents to become tougher because it’s the only way the protagonist will grow. It’s like that with every action anime. The protagonist has to get power ups after they battle near death. Also, if Tanjirou wants to take on the bigwig demon, he has to become much, much stronger. Look how Inosuke was beaten by that tough father demon. When season 2 begins to air in Japan, chances are it will air on the same day on Crunchyroll here in the USA. I will keep an anime news to see when it will be released. 

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    I am lucky that I have not really experienced the "parents walking in" leading to some embarrassment happen. But yeah, I never want it to happen too :joy:

     

    Demon Slayer, I actually found its art style interesting and liked it. But yes, the characters are not that attractive when you compare them with other anime, but when I read the Manga, the art style was worse. Since I wanted to know what's gonna happen, I went with it, I would not really mind that art style much as long as story is good. But my friend dropped it, he said he could not look at it. But the whole brother-sister bond shown is really great and believe me, there will be more emotional scenes coming and they will be much more emotional compared to the episode 19 which made a buzz and was trending topic on twitter.

     

    Tower of God's Manhwa is really good. I really wonder whether the Korean Manhwa authors and their team work much harder than their Japanese counter parts. I read Attack on Titan manga which is published on monthly basis and its chapters are usually 45-50 pages long. I read some weekly manga too like Demon Slayer and Tokyo Ghoul, and they would be 15-20 pages long, usually 15 pages only. But I read 2 Manhwas till now, Tower of God and Solo Leveling, and although the later one is put on hold, I caught up with the former and its chapters were almost as long as Attack on Titan's chapters and sometimes even longer than it. Not to forget the fact that they even have to color while manga come out in black and white. The author of Tower of God developed some wrist problem and he went into hiatus since July 2020 and now a couple of days it was reported that he expected to return Mid-November. But, it's anime was not bad, its just that they really left out a lot of details, which made it a hard time for me to understand certain things in the Manhwa. So I read it from the first chapter again.

     

    I have not watched the big 3 anime yet Bleach, Naruto and One Piece. I can't really watch that long anime, not with so many Kdramas to watch. I usually binge watch the anime with the thought to finish the season in one day if it has got 25 episodes or some days if it is a bit longer, but I can't really do it with them. One Piece is definitely beyond me, so I will not really even think of touching it, even though I have heard that it is really a good piece of work.  

     

    I have not watched any C-dramas, but have heard some really good comments on Chinese Period Dramas. I might decide to go any one of them, but it won't be happening anytime soon. Although I have really been craving for a good Sageuk to come. Let's see whether it will happen next year or not. I like the palace politics and conspiracies happening, expect the fights to not be exaggerated, and of course the setting and clothes play a big part. Since I know a thing or two about Korean History as I have read a lot about it, I really expect the dramas to give importance to some small details, at least regarding the era they are showing. I remember watching Empress Ki in the re-watch event, and see this Yuan General wearing a headband with Gogoryeo emblem on it, and I was disappointed. Gogoryeo existed like 400 years before the events of Empress Ki, I would try to understand if a Goryeo guy would wear it, but Yuan Army General wearing it, I didn't really like it and I do give importance to these small details, even though they don't really affect the story. 

     

    Glad to see you like Lord of The Rings too. Have you tried watching all three movies(the extended versions)  in one go? I did it with my friends during my college time, and it was really a memorable experience.

     

    It’s so funny that I went into my Crunchyroll tv app today and the home screen has Tower of God on it with “Start Watching” button highlighted. Heh. I’m not sure who works harder between the Korean manhwa and Japan manga artists but I know over the years several mangaka have gotten sick, developed chronic wrist issues, and some have even died leaving their work unfinished. This is why I limit my reading of long series. Of the big three, I only read and watched some of Naruto. Actually, I have all 70+ volumes of the Naruto manga because it’s one of the first anime I watched and then I wanted to read the canon material. It’s not perfect but it’s a good growing up manga and I liked the diverse characters. It also has a message for kids that people who are considered failures can work hard to achieve their goals. Maybe that’s why it’s so popular in the US. I think people here like to root for underdogs. 
     

    Regarding Demon Slayer, I will have to wait for Season 2 if they make one. I think after watching the anime I had looked for the manga but I think I couldn’t find it because it’s licensed and they’re cracking down on scanlation websites. Spoilers are always available on the manga section of Myanimelist forum though. I tried to watch One Piece maybe three times but didn’t get far. Maybe it’s because it’s about pirates. Bleach, I tried to watch twice but I didn’t get far. :lol: I guess it really depends on what pulls me in right away because D-Grayman and Fairy Tail pulled me in right away as a comparison. 
     

    I think my first Korean sageuk was The Princess’ Man starring Moon Chae Won, Park Si Hoo and the actor who played the father in the drama shows My Father Is Strange as well as Nice Guy. I was honestly surprised by the level of cruelty in that drama including the slaughter of whole families. To me saguek are always tragic and the people who do cruel things often win so I’m not too fond of them because justice is a huge deal for me. Nevertheless, I would still watch them. Like in The Princess Man, the father basically did a coup and it is said he was the most cruel king in Korean history but he did a lot of good for the country. The actor was really good. He did a lot of cruel things but in private life with his family, I had to admit that he loved his family especially his favorite daughter played by Moon Chae Won. His tension/conflict with his daughter really brought out excellent acting between the two. Maybe that’s why they both got cast as father and daughter again in Nice Guy afterwards. 
     

    My first palace drama for a Chinese show was Nirvana in Fire. I think it’s a show that guys would like. The protagonist is a brilliant strategist. This show has won many awards and is highly recognized even internationally. The story is about a plot that killed an entire prestigious army. The protagonist is the survivor who is the son of the army general. He’s royalty too. However, he was severely injured and everybody thought he was dead. I think it was 10 or 12 years later a mysterious personage appears. He’s the mysterious leader of the lawless martial arts world. He comes to the capital where the emperor’s sons are vying to be next in line for the throne and they want to get this mysterious leader on their side. This begins the story of an intricate plot of political intrigue and the unearthing of the truth of what happened a decade ago with the Blaze army. The villains in this show were one of the best caliber I have seen. I couldn’t stand them but I can’t deny they were magnetic actors. They also were dangerous people in their own right. The emperor also seemed docile but could bear his fangs in a split second. I think he impressed me the most because he wasn’t someone who is outright a villain but yet he’s kind of a villain. The actor played him well. To this day I still don’t think there’s a Chinese drama that has surpassed this one. Not even the one they call The Untamed. 
     

    Regarding Lord of the Rings, I have the extended versions. I was a LoTR nut. I watched the last movie 10 times in the theater. :lol: I enjoyed that period of time because I made many friends in Europe through LoTR whom I still keep in touch with even today via Viber. We were all nuts together. 

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  24. @Sleepy Owl, I watched both versions of Fullmetal Alchemist. :sweatingbullets: I watched the first series before the manga finished and the Brotherhood series after the manga ended. I even bought the latter series on blu-ray to watch when I don’t feel like reading the manga. That’s how much I enjoyed the series. Amusingly though, the series is available for streaming on my US streaming channels anyway like Netflix and Hulu. 
     

    About Attack on Titans, now that you mention it, I do remember that characters that I didn’t think would die early in the series died. I did find that brutal but it set the tone for expectations of the series in the sense that anybody could die except maybe the protagonist guy so I tried not to get attach to any character as I watched. If it’s one thing I wondered about that story, is what or who was behind everything. However, my curiosity faded over time because manga take years to finish. It’s only after the shutdown this year that I subscribed again to Crunchyroll anime streaming service and actually went back to find out what happened in some of the manga stories I used to read. When will the mangaka finish this manga? You said it was some time soon.

     

    Oh, and questioning your morality bit reminds me of when I read the classical novel Crime and Punishment where the story was told from the murderer’s point of view and I felt conflicted about the way I felt because I sympathized with him and almost didn’t want him to be caught. However, objectively, I knew his brutal and bloody crime should be punished and ultimately I wouldn’t have wanted him to get off in the end.

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