Lmangla
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1 hour ago, liyahsbutterfly said:
If it wasn't about justice, then what was it about?
My guess is that she was hurt and full of rage over art MIL's death -- perhaps it was driven by grief though the drama didn't do a good job on selling me that these two women had such a deep relationship.
I think a person truly driven by justice are far more dogmatic because they apply the need for justice in all situations and not when it is convenient for them.
If she really believed in justice, then she would expose Ji Chang's crime but she hasn't. When others asked her to hold off because it would harm YJ and those who worked in the company, she acted like a self-righteous person. When her father asked her to let it go, she couldn't understand him but now she is hiding Ji Chang's action. So I don't buy her justice drive. Hye Won is just selfish -- everything is about her emotions and her needs.
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1 hour ago, LeftCoastOppa said:
Hye Won knows JC tried to kill Hye Ji. Thats part of the reason she agreed to be a party to the cover up of his death as a suicide. She didn't want her son to know his father had tried to kill someone.
..... and this shows how Hye Won is a hypocrite and her relentless obsession over art MIL's death was not a fight about justice like she claimed... who knows why she was obsessed...
10 hours ago, LeftCoastOppa said:Woah, apparently Hye-Ji actress - Ha Yeon Joo - was actually injured in one of the scenes where she was hit in the head
so strange that the station is being tight lipped. something certainly went down!
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12 hours ago, partyon said:
@Lmangla sweetie, also waiting for you....
kekeke... no dramas came to mind and I didn't watch any of the dramas in the poll. generally I drop dramas if I dislike the direction it is going.
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@LeftCoastOppa -- I think this will be a drama where everyone is good and bad. No one is truly team good.
It will be more interesting if Hye Won leans into team bad because she sucks at being team good hahahaha.
I can't figure her motivation out and she comes across selfish, self-centered rather than someone who wants justice. As Chase aptly said, she had no interest in anything besides her own problems. So I don't want the writers to try convince me this chick is good and we should cheer for her. Besides, she looks better in bad mode -- her dress style is sharper and the actress looks more happier acting.
Chase would be fun if he is in team bad because he has got a certain edgy style. I find that he and Hye Won have far more chemistry in just a few scenes and have believably sold that they had a fling when they were younger. So if they fight against each other, there would be sparks and would be interesting to watch. If he is team good, it would be fun for a random character to take over the drama and beat the FL.
Goofy lawyer is boring and he might be more interesting as a character if he leaned into team bad. So far, all he does is mope around and wait for Hye Won. Boring.
I want chairman Romeo to come back into full team bad blazing mode with a huge violin background playing in the back.
I think Hye Jin might end up accidentally being team good(ish) -- as in she is trying to change but no one gives her a chance and so she just fights back with just darker and darker tactics.
As for the other side characters, I am waiting for all to drop dead because this drama is bent on killing off cast and Hye Won yelling in frustration.
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I seriously don't get where this drama is going. am still not sure what the plot is or what hye won is trying to achieve or why we are supposed to cheer for her. new addition jace is a pretty big actor and so I don't see him playing second male lead. he has been male lead in many dramas. is the drama topsy turvy because of a change in writers? I want to know what is the drama behind the scenes because something is off with the number of characters rotated out so fast...
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12 hours ago, MayanEcho said:
I don't like cardamoms! 😆 I didn't know what it was, thinking it was some kind of bean and ate it, LOL!
I don't either; not really a fan of the flavour. it tastes better during monsoon season though.
I prefer ginger tea and it is something we have all year around. ginger is all good for the throat and clears your system.
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5 minutes ago, kingpin said:
it is safe to say chai tea latte? 🤔
only in starbucks.
what is latte? it is a milky drink with froth. chai more or less is milk tea with or without spices. so for reasons unknown, you are repeating the word tea twice and also indicating it is milk tea twice. why why why?
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1 hour ago, Ameera Ali said:
I wish , I can make it , but I can make best chai tea
there is no such thing as chai tea.
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chai means tea and so when you say chai tea, you are just saying tea in 2 different languages (hindi and english).
I blame starbucks for being weird. instead of just calling it milk tea or masala tea like they do in other parts of the world, they have to confuse people.
not really a coffee expert @partyon @rocat but I did get my fortune read in coffee cup many many many years ago. it was certainly interesting experience.
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15 hours ago, LeftCoastOppa said:
- Speaking of JC, just how the hell did he survive a 10 story drop to the pavement???
he didn't survive. not sure why he survived 10 story drop only to die later in some forest. very strange....
4 hours ago, maribella said:And you blamed MIL for dying when it was just a push from Herculena Jie.
at this stage, I won't be surprised if heruculena ends up being innocent lamb and MIL died because of ji chang or romeo chairman or someone else altogether...
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12 hours ago, MayanEcho said:
About time, it's so tiring to see posts left and right speculating about her and their marriage status. May she respond well to the chemo, recover without issues, and be later on cancer-free.
yea, I hope she and her family gets complete privacy without people speculating further.
at the same time, I do think the palace really bungled up. I have no idea why they would put out a photoshopped picture that would get rejected by mainstream wire agencies. either, they could have released a message without a photo or an old photo or they could have gone through a more creative option where you show a sense of home without showing faces. they could have just browsed through istock, getty or any of the photo studios for ideas.
1 hour ago, partyon said:Actor Lee Bum Soo's wife exposes the difficult marriage she had with Lee Bum Soo & pleads with him to divorce her
wow, that sounds like a nasty divorce. one of the comments in the article said she has not seen her son and is asking for info on him.
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kate middleton has announced that she is undergoing chemo after cancer diagnosis. well, now that it is open, hopefully people will stop with the conspiracy theories wondering what happened to her...
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5 hours ago, maribella said:
I think this writer must hate cheaters. He was scummy from the first episode. How is he going to be redeemed? Another pridon term?
I don't think the writer cares about cheating because in this drama pretty much everyone is cheating including the ML and FL
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I think hye won will end up losing custody of her baby because she doesn't listen to ji chang and is instead obsessed over her own rage. he does warn her that grandma will go ballistic but she thinks she is one step up from grandma. so when she loses custody, she will blame hye ji. she will also be face adultery charges. when ji chang tells her his boundaries and asks her not to hang out with the lawyer behind his back, she mocks him by calling him emotional. right, that will just inspire feelings of love. face palm. I don't think she was ever in love with ji chang to be honest as she seems to think that he has no opinion worth considering....
since the secrets are out, it will be a continuous "you hurt me" till the end. something will happen where hye ji gets upset with hye won and so on and on. this drama should be called two wolves because I think they will tear each other apart and only in the end, hye won will say with regret, "I should have stopped back then."
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2 hours ago, tulip06 said:
Waves back!
My view is that HW is so angry at HJ, she really doesn’t care.
thats why I think the two sisters are actually very similar. they both are driven by rage and whether or not it makes sense is not relevant.
@maribella -- neither the drama or the actress convinced me she had a deeper bond with MIL that supersedes ji chang. I actually thought hye won was faking affection in order to get into the good books of MIL just like she pretends humility in front of grandma.
hye won also does not come across as strong but more a refined version of unhinged compared to her sister. I don't see a kumbaya ending that @LeftCoastOppa hopes for.
I think hye ji will end up in loony bin or ending up doing some self-harm. I won't be surprised if hye won will end up in jail because she herself won't stop kicking the hornet's nest.
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2 hours ago, maribella said:
I like HW being neither the non-doormat nor the idiot FL which we get in so many dailies till now. It is possible for someone to be very disappointed with finding their closest and dearest is now the enemy. HJ had tried many things to and at HW before her confession. It wasn’t just the MIL’s death, they had clashes that had become personal. Now that HW knew that it wasn’t Choi who had sent the photo, HJ would be the next suspect. She knows HJ is trying to kill her baby.
It’s unlikely that HW will see HJ as the sister she had protected, not till many more episodes.
that makes sense but what I don't get is why hye won is absolutely disinterested in knowing what happened to hye ji in the 25 odd years or so. she literally has no interest and is very dismissal when hye ji hints about how mom is a leech. she gives off a "I don't care" vibe and her sole interest is in MIL's death. the drama hasn't given me any insight into why this woman is more obsessed than her own hubby on this matter and why she would keep going behind his back about it.
the only people who asked, "what happened to her?" were the dad and aunt. dad is too guilty and heartbroken to relay some of the abuse hye ji endured. right now, hye won's reaction feels like deflection. if she had to know what happened to hye ji, then she would have to take accountability for what she did as a child. she doesn't want to know and would rather be blind. she comes off as very cold to me.
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I had dropped the drama but decided to check it out to see if it had gotten any better. it surprisingly has settled in more into an even tone.
I still can't stand hye won and find her a weirdo for being so obsessed with her MIL's death so much. you would think ji chang would be more upset but he wants to move on. found it interesting that hye won is obsessed in some ways in this tug of war with hye ji even before knowing her identity. feels like these sisters are the type who really can't get along even if they tried.
I find it interesting that hye won for all her wanting to find hye ji has not tried to find out what it was like for hye ji growing up and what were the battles she faced. instead, her focus is on MIL's death. weird.
I like that they showed that the marriage was disintegrating piece by piece as they had bad communication where both really don't see eye to eye on key issues. maybe it is because hye won is a few years older than ji chang but the woman does not trust him to do anything. she always gives him info super late and then gives pikachu face when he gets upset. face palm.
on his part, he was really struggling after his mother's death and he wasn't getting the support he wanted from hye won. so if it wasn't for the baby, this would have ended in divorce even earlier. ji chang having an affair was inevitable in some ways because they were very distant from each other and just missing communication signals completely.
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8 minutes ago, Ameera Ali said:
Did you forget Noel’s driver probably @Lmangla meant him
yea, that was the person I was referring to @maribella . edited my post accordingly
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caught up on the drama -- yohan and dajung continue to be the side characters. maybe thats why they are getting the privilege of being cheaters. hahahahahh
does anyone recall any daily drama where the leads are openly cheating?
actors playing noel and jihoon showing acting chops in last week's scenes.
characters with real brains are noel's driver and grandma's secretary. too bad they are not the leads. hahahahhaha....
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15 minutes ago, Ameera Ali said:
I don’t even notice her , I wouldn’t even notice her to the end, if she didn’t drug DJ
same. hahahahha...
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@partyon ~ thinking about your comment earlier regarding the writer of the drama. I was reminded of two dramas.
one was "good witch" (2018) - inspired by the peanut incident on korea air. the chaebol lady in the drama dumps some noodles instead and her hubby who was a regular guy starts going bad in order to run off. in the end, their marriage is all sorts of tragic dysfunction. there was no romance happy ending for chaebol lady. she was mean and reaped what she sowed. however, the drama itself was mostly quite funny, in a makjang sort of way.
the other was the old melo "war of roses" (2005) -- it was a total weepie. so FL is a serious miser. the way she grew up means she never enjoyed life and penny pinches on everything. basically her super negative attitude means even her family are exhausted. hubby is very unhappy and starts liking someone else. just as he asks for divorce, FL finds out that she is having cancer. hubby feels emotionally tied and has to stay. then FL goes through the process of grief where she finds she never lived her life and some of that was her own choices. she weeps and it ends. basically she dies offscreen and I guess the drama was about how we should live life when we have it. or something like that.
I can see queen of tears veer sharply from comedy to full on tragedy.
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23 minutes ago, kokodus said:
@partyon @Lmangla You guys are taking this drama way too seriously. Lol. You are supposed to hate them. That is the whole point. The drama itself is not justifying the actions of the FL or the chaebol family. We should be enraged at them so that their fall down feels that much delicious. Isn't that the normal formula? LOL.
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if this was a makjang drama, I would be sitting there with popcorn because you know the ML will burn the house down and they will either end up in jail for financial crimes, end up in loony hospital or end up dead from some terminal disease.
but this is a rom-com which means he is going to still end up with these loonies and hardly anyone in rom-com ever acknowledge how bloody stupid they were. am all for people changing but as long as they take accountability and there is true redemption. a chance of that happening in rom-com is pretty much slim. so I am rather meh on the drama. there are moments in ep 1 that are good but the ML is so desperately unhappy that it is uncomfortable to watch.
sadly, there are hardly any dramas these days that are interesting to watch. so lack of options is more annoying.
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9 minutes ago, partyon said:You know what is the same in these both dramas?
The MLs being treated like absolute dirt.
kekeke.... I actually don't remember anything in that drama other than the stupid ending. I have drama amnesia!
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1 minute ago, partyon said:
This drama is getting on my nerves. Almost as much as The Last Empress!
don't remind me of that messy ending. I was always torn between getting irritated and laughing my head off at the absurdities in the drama that were really funny.
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1 minute ago, Ameera Ali said:
we see it happen in daily drama with FL get bullied by rich family & the husband silent and watch , for me I don’t mind watching ML get bullied for once
kekeke.... the difference is in daily dramas the good guy knows it is bad and will fight. the bad ones look confused or too chicken to speak up. but it is never shown as a good thing when it happens. instead, the FL will ask the guy why he is allowing it to happen because it is his responsibility to look out for her.
here, the FL comes across as super cold and ambivalent. she does not care that her hubby is being insulted. for me, the reaction and acting like this whole thing is a joke and a parody is what rubs me @partyon.
like @kokodus says, we have seen other dramas do this kind of thing but it is not shown as a joke or treated as something normal. there is always super dramatic music and all sorts of over the top expressions that tell you that this is not good.
I find the tone of this drama weird because I don't find it funny that people are being treated with such contempt. that said, there are other moments in this episode that I found amusing and so was able to finish the episode without tuning out. now, will I watch ep 2? most likely not.
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@partyon ~ what I found troubling about FL and her family was contempt for pretty much everyone and the constant paranoia.
I get it -- they are rich and so people want to use them. so their way of handling it is to put everyone down so that they can't be taken advantage of. this includes all the sons-in-law who came from lower status -- now why would they purposely choose all these men? because it is easier to manipulate people who are lower than you and dominate them. they do this with constant disrespect, threats and intimidation. then they wonder why they are lonely. eye roll.
FL telling her brother kwakkie not to disrespect her hubby just made me eye roll. if she felt so strongly, why didn't she speak up at the family meeting? why does she let her family steam roll him and act like it does not matter. she is letting it happen and therefore, becomes a passive participant in the bullying of ML.
as for ML, I thought he got gold digger thoughts and decided to stick it in for the three months and maybe love bombing her in order to get the will re-written in his favour. I did wonder if FL was really sick or just lying as a way of manipulation. I watch enough true crime to know that people are bizarre -- sometimes they make up diagnosis as way of emotional hostage.
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I think Hye Jin might end up accidentally being team good(ish) -- as in she is trying to change but no one gives her a chance and so she just fights back with just darker and darker tactics. 
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I just wish they didn't make it like Hye Won was so brave for pursuing the art MIL's death when really it was just grief and rage. I didn't find her particularly brave -- more foolish and not thinking things through.
That said, with the change in writer, I think the drama has done away with the pretense that she is good and now, showing her more as a regular flawed human.