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  1. 4 minutes ago, Lawyerh said:


    This drama soo good..I havent even start vagabond lol. 

    what drama are you watching? what is this tuna mayo? am guessing you are not talking about food or sandwich?

    take a break from oppa pics.






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  2. 2 hours ago, ktcjdrama said:

    @Lmangla Empress of Dignity ending still okay for me. Except for the way they handle CJH’s character of course. But at least I was prepared for it because we are told that he cannot join the last 2 (or was it 4?) episodes due to clash of schedule. 



    I was so annoyed because of CJH character. they had time to prepare and yet created a stupid ending for him that was so abrupt. think if they had done it with some care, it would have been okay. bad memories. eek. 



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  3. 1 minute ago, UnniSarah said:

    MS could have told the truth but guess what, he would been looked at badly or would have been called COLD and the drama would have ended.  

    actually if he had said it earlier, then it would have been interesting to see the fallout. shady mom resents the world so much that she thinks that her actions are acceptable and she is justified in doing bad things. so she has zero remorse. it would have interesting to go from zero remorse to some remorse and some acceptance. many dramas go through very interesting arcs for the villains. here, everything is happening so late that it is going to be rushed now. why have so much snooze episodes earlier?

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  4. 2 minutes ago, Sushimi said:

    I didn’t really bother about Han it’s more about WS that marks the bad ending checkbox for me. It’s bad enough for me..

    same here; it is because of wan soo that I feel so disappointed. otherwise, it was okay ending.


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  5. 50 minutes ago, ktcjdrama said:

    Anyone caught that Han might have an inkling that WS is about to end his life? But I guess she just couldn’t be bothered to prevent it... *still sour over his death*

    she seemed really shocked and dazed by the news -- it wasn't something they had even anticipated. she only put it into context afterwards. it has been a while I actually cried for a fictional character and it wasn't even the leads. it was a side character! wah, wan soo. :bawling:


    39 minutes ago, maribella said:

    Isn't it ironic that WS in a fit of rage killed AJR, starting from her refusal to divorce Mo, but Mo went to the house to tell her the real artist that he chose the fake artist, mother of his children. He did not have to do anything but suck up to his father. Tsk tsk. 

    what is sad is that if papa mo had told second wife that he intended to divorce, then none of this tragedy would have occurred. instead, they all just played games with each other. and second wife didn't even care for papa mo even though he had been willing to divorce seok hee's mom. Second wife even stole his shares while he is in the hospital. so in the end, it is all for naught. neither papa mo or second wife really cared about each other. it was all about MC group, succession and money.

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  6. 18 minutes ago, ktcjdrama said:

    Nursing the same heartache here... :tears:

    but still, nothing beats the ending of God’s Gift - 14 Days in terms of crappy ending. I should comfort myself with that...



    empress of dignity was hands down the worst ending ever. I was so annoyed for days afterwards.


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  7. 19 hours ago, rolisrntex said:

     I don't think he is a very good actor and the is probably the biggest factor.

    yea, he is destroying the character now... his lack of acting becomes apparent when everyone around him is putting in 200% emotion!


    11 hours ago, tulip06 said:

    This is his 11th drama and he’s been in three movies. He has been getting by on his face.

    find that so hard to believe that it is his 11th drama. <_<


    so actually felt sorry for both grandpa and aunt. their anger and outrage was justified. just imagine that you lost a family member in a cruel way and there has been no resolution for years and it has been something they have been waiting for. then to find out that the killer's daughter has married into your family -- not a situation that people would be happy about.


    unlike eun seok, they have no way of knowing that jenny didn't know about shady mom's past. he didn't share anything that was going on or his suspicions. so they are outraged as they think that jenny married into the family knowing the truth -- hence the anger. also it doesn't help that eun seok is so besotted by jenny that even at that moment, he is trying to defend jenny and say it may not be shady mom. it was sad that grandpa has lost complete faith in eun seok that he thinks that the investigation may be at risk if eun seok is involved. so it is case of loyalty tested. if eun seok continues to see jenny, then his family would see it as a betrayal that cannot be bridged.


    as for man soo, what is the guy upto? not sure why he hasn't told the truth or why he keeps hesitating to tell the truth to jenny. at least before it made sense. jenny has no recollection of the past and so would reject anything he says. now, what is his thinking? anyway, wish all this drama had happened earlier. it feels strange that now that drama is close to ending, we are finally picking up some speed.

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  8. such mixed feelings on the ending.

    wan soo! :bawling: :bawling:  once it got confirmed that wan soo was indeed the murderer, then it was expected in a way that he would kill himself. for him, it was never about trying to get away with the murder. instead it was all about acceptance and wanting approval. like @guinearoyal put it, the only person in the family who saw him as a human being with potential, loved and approved of him was seok hee and without that, it would have been difficult for him to go on... 


    besides seok hee, yeon do really didn't want him to be the murderer either as he recognized that wan soo had a good heart. along with seok hee, yeon do is just as stunned and cries on the suicide. this wasn't the kind of truth that they wanted. however, one thing that wan soo did do is he didn't run from the truth once he knew the game was up. he instead prepared a confession and delivered it himself to the prosecutor's son. if he had left it in his room or elsewhere, TOP would destroyed it. so he ensured that the confession stays. in a way, he punished himself rather than let justice take its course. if he had seen that there would be people waiting for him afterwards who loved him, then he might have chosen prison instead @Sushimi. makes me wonder if he would have chosen prison if seok hee had indicated that she would forgive him even if he was the murderer as long as he accepted the truth?


    the murder was in a way stand in for second wife and that is the sad truth. he was punishing seok hee's mom when he really wanted to punish and confront his mom for being so cruel. was kind of annoyed with the tears of second wife and wan joon. they never cared when he was alive and now it pricks them when he is gone? pfft, what a waste.


    if it wasn't for that pathetic last minute at the end of the drama where ms han and her old squad drive off, the drama was sort of satisfying with its hand of justice.


    after yeon do's dad water slap, the other person who really shook ms han was wan soo. she seemed to think that as long as you put in effort, you will always get the result you want. whereas wan soo says that a failure doesn't mean lack of effort and she will never understand because she has never faced failure. for people who have never faced failure, any step back is hard to digest. in this case, wan soo took himself out of TOP's manipulations by ending his story. so she and her squad can't spin the story in another way and it means that her 15 year successful cover-up has now turned into a failure. it is ironic that he won some movie award after his death but it also was another blow to ms han. she had been gloating and goading that he needed to be a movie director and do something but she never knew that he actually had talent. so her assessment that he would turn out to be nothing was indeed wrong. another area where she failed.


    @thistle ~ am not sure if ms han felt any emotion for wan soo but I think her realizing that they just lost big time may be the reason she got a bit emotional. it wasn't just her first defeat but a decisive one. also, wan soo said that if ms han had used her heart, she would have seen him. she would have recognized that he actually had talent. so she was wrong in many ways and it felt like that was behind her tears. while I was cheesed off at the ending, ms han and TOP getting defeated itself was a big deal. instead of running away, they had to accept responsibility and had to accept failure. for those like yeon do and seok hee who have faced failure many times, it is easier but not for those who always got what they want, this is a thorn that will burn in their soul. so we must be satisfied with that tidbit. 


    as for wan joon and second wife, it was indeed a fitting punishment. while the jail term itself was less, it is the loss of their precious ambition that is more hard hitting. after all of that, they realize that someone (wan soo) cared for them but they were so focused on their ambition and greed that they lost true affection. so what was the point of all that ambition? they have also lost their reputation and their swag which they are never going to get back after they rejoin society. others will spite them. in that sense, they were punished. papa mo I assume just stays in coma and eventually slips away.


    we have two people in this drama who ended their lives -- wan soo and also the prosecutor. in both cases, they made a mistake and bad choices but they were also loved and human. so the prosecutor's son will now become a good one who cannot be bought and will be for justice.


    as for the time jump, in a way it made sense. both yeon do and seok hee needed to kind of heal from everything that happened. for seok hee, wan soo's death really hit her hard. she needed to step away. it is interesting that she chose to study law but finds no heart for it. MC group runs itself with a professional manager and so no more family wrangling. yeon do stepped away once he re-aligned TOP to the new goal of empathy and has become a public defender. he also needed to something else and breathe a bit. while the kiss was bland, it is clear they are now ready to commit to each other long term and move forward together. so not too bad.


    altogether -- this isnt' the ending I wanted at all. however, compared to some drama endings where I was fuming afterwards for days, I am okay with this one. however, the ending completely removed any rewatch and downgraded the drama a lot. episode grade: it is a 5 for me as well @maribella



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  9. 1 hour ago, Sushimi said:

    Same goes for GF. I saw it and I still at this point do not know why he must die. I actually reverse back a few seconds to see the part again. I really cannot like process. I feel conflicted actually. I always thought he would want to show to his mom that he is a strong player and not just a man who is not business oriented..but him dying proofs nothing...

    it was so sad. it has been a while I felt really sorry for a fictional character and was hoping that it would turn out differently. :bawling: more thoughts on the grateful family thread. won't bore people here...



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  10. 2 hours ago, angelangie said:



    too many drama that i watch that came to have an ending that you want to 'GOSH THIS IS A WASTE OF TIMES!!!' @Sushimi @Lmangla

    it is so frustrating when that happens because you liked 95% of the drama but that 5% awfulness makes the drama downgrade to just pass. <_<


    2 hours ago, Sushimi said:

    Let’s rant @Lmangla :) some how I have no idea what is wrong with the writer/.but he was supposed to reborn into a tree lol. (Just what the is the writer thinking lol)

    if they plan to kill off a beloved character, then the audience should be given hints first itself. when there's hints, no one is surprised and we are able to shrug. everyone knows romeo and juliet die at the end. so we are like okay. but when it is done as a kind of twist, it ticks me off because the story could have written in many ways.



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  11. 6 hours ago, celebrianna said:

    With the big Evil triumphing to the end the rewatch value has seriously plummeted for me. Many times I think Korean writers who choose these types of plot should seriously sit down and watch the Chinese drama Nirvana in Fire. Formidable and deadly villains who were brought to justice by 10 years of carefully laid plans by the brilliant yet tragic protagonist.

    unfortunately, for most of us, we are not going to be rewatching. even if the punishment was light, it would have been satisfying if ms han and her squad got at least mentally squashed for all the crimes they did. if they had felt humiliated and broken, then the number of years wouldn't matter. thanks for mentioning nirvana in fire. it looks like I might need something good and satisfying to wipe off the irritation I am going to feel after ep 16. I am dreading watching the final episode now. sigh


    2 hours ago, thistle said:

    So, here's the question:  Exactly how annoyed were You?


    Me?  I made a cake, and I ate about 1/3 of it for supper.  :P  That should score pretty high on the Annoyed Scale. 

    I played sudoku online instead of skimming through the raw for any OTP scenes like I usually do.

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  12. why does it feel like we all lost the bet? :sweatingbullets: if at least ms han got kicked and beaten, there would be some satisfaction. instead, a character many of us liked ended up being the culprit and killed himself and worse, the obnoxious puppet master ms han gets to roam free? and her team of bad people are waiting for her like they love her? :crazy: did PD think we liked ms han and wanted her to get off? :unsure:


    anyways, congrats to the winners who guessed right: option 2: wan soo -- the director who slays with flowers -- @Bejaffled @mylovekge @philosophie @celebrianna @joccu @soesje @Cassandra E. Bett @rocher22 @DreamCatcher2011 @Ameera Ali


    the winners get to show off tofu or the tofu kiss (we joked that instead of tofu, he got to kiss seok hee when he came out of prosecution office). rest of us will have picasso!


    maybe we just fry some fish tomorrow for lunch and we will feel better? here's some crispy fish to lift the mood.



    bet name: "what happened that afternoon?" -- guess the killer:

    option 1: wan joon - bathtub soaker with a heart of stone -- @tulip06 @Lmangla @ktcjdrama 

    option 3: ms han - scavenger eagle who plans bad events over coffee - @ii panda @camichi @nubianlegalmind @bebebisous33 

    option 4: second wife - the singer who thinks music sounds better on ice and pain @Lmangla @ii panda @rocher22 @Ameera Ali 

    option 5: papa mo - the bear who wants it all but always disappointed... @curly4hiro @camichi

    option 6: someone outside the family / she accidentally killed herself  -- @serendipity... @Elfvanvan13 @nubianlegalmind

    option 7: murder in orient express -- the four Mo's and Ms han. -- @thistle @10192123sangre

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  13. 11 hours ago, msmy said:

    Grandpa overhears the conversation about shady Mom being the Black Rose.  Holy Cow!  He is furious! 

    finally there was some emotion and drama! hahahahha.. it felt like someone had woken up. eun seok is really strange. he finds out that shady mom is black rose and there is pretty much a flat reaction. say what? this is the woman who made you orphan and he stands there just slightly glaring at her. face palm. but at least we have aunt and grandpa to make up for that and get some drama! at what point will jenny find out about mrs ji?

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  14. ep 15 thoughts -- okay it was really fun to see yeon do and ms han duel. she calls him just to gloat over him and say some rubbish lecture but he claps back at every turn. he basically squashed her arguments. even when she said that she doesn't support seok hee because she would be a bad leader, yeon do retorts that ms han can't control seok hee and that is the actual problem. hahahahahha!... yeon do digs his feels and tells her that he will continue to chip away little by little.


    prosecutor son has joined hands with seok hee and yeon do. he wants ms han put away. so it looks like he will play big role in ep 16. while the end of episode has ms han accusing wan soo of being the killer, I don't buy it. this is the same woman who makes fake charges against people. plus, I would love to see ms han being proven wrong where she doesn't know everything. really felt bad for wan soo with the intro scenes. second wife is such a bad mom that she wishes wan soo be kidnapped rather than wan joo. ugh. his whole life, he has lived wanting some affection, approval and notice. based on the preview, seok hee says that she hopes wan soo isn't the killer because he is the only one who feels like family. for both of their sake, it would be good if that were the case.


    @thistle ~ am also thinking that the milk witch might turn out to be seok hee's grandmother. like @Yippeun_eonnie said, the milk witch made an agreement regarding the shares and that was prior to seok hee signing away her rights. so the milk witch might be legally able to squash that because the agreement was before to giving away of the shares. @Sirry Usly ~ I don't think ms han will just die. it would be too much cheating for the audience. we need to see her suffer in jail and take the punishment. so far, the drama has been all about balancing the rights and wrong and how nothing can stay buried. fingers crossed.


    so right now, we have 3 suspects -- wan soo, wan joon, second wife. can just imagine second wife killing seok hee's mom because she didn't want wan joon's secret coming out... wan soo might know or suspect his mom is involved and kept quiet out of loyalty...

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  15. 34 minutes ago, msmy said:

    @Lmangla.. no kidding.  Did you catch the part where DJ had her background and her sad, weepy story about her background?  That she didn't even register her existence until she was twenty and probably was an orphan wandering the streets?  Oh, please.. she murdered people and even orchestrated events to wipe out other people that were a threat.  And now the "bonding" with Jenny after teaching her criminal acts and beating her up.  Nauseating.  

    exactly! the audience is not going to forget that this is the same woman who orchestrated pickpockets to beat up jenny, had her memories wiped and also physically abused. it just feels strange to have a redemption arc for shady mom without her being caught and facing the consequences.

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  16. today's episode: looks like both man soo and jenny are preparing a goodbye. man soo had a walk with ms ji where he thanked her. he knows the time she will hate and resent him is near and so it is kind of his goodbye walk. also mrs ji makes fun of him gently that he still thinks about jenny and needs to let go. internal monologue is that he is grateful to jenny for sticking by shady mom even though she is horrible person.


    jenny on the other hand basically tells eun seok that she is quitting her job and takes shady mom for a day out. she buys shady mom a new outfit and they walk in the park. so it feels like jenny is also going to run away. in the preview, shady mom tells jenny that she is okay with eun seok finding out the truth as long as jenny is by her side. even at that point, it is all about herself and not about how it will impact jenny. it will be good if jenny disappears for a bit -- it seems like only that will teach shady mom a lesson.

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  17. 6 minutes ago, tulip06 said:

    @Lmangla What are we supposed to change our pic to, anything other than tofu or picasso?

    kiss of the lead if it is available. or we can get a bit creative and something in line with the drama's theme just as a post. basically it is all for fun and to have laughs. :)


    1 hour ago, Sushimi said:

    Sorry @Lmangla got to keep my DP safe, I'm scared :joy: So will just watch from side view. 


    I always get things wrong. My theories never are right. :sweatingbullets: 


    So...Yeah..No tofu please yeah

    hahaha. why so scared of changing DP for one or two days. change profile pic button will still be there after 2 days also. :P



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  18. 2 hours ago, Sushimi said:

    I’m very curious @Lmangla give your fashion comments on this 


    that day had to look at it a second time after realising is Heo I’m waiting for your answer.. :) what do you think? :w00t:

    I don’t know why but today I thought about him again...so here I am!

    probably it’s just a style..but ermmm..



    thought for a sec, why you were asking my comment on some random actor. hahaha... didn't realize it was the graceful family lead till I looked again. not sure why he looks different. beanie? glasses? slight goatee?


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