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3 hours ago, tulip06 said:
That's it, Juri, dump Jinsang, and leave him and his dumb family in the lurch. Serves them right! I'm all for double-revenge!
Pity that nice In Seon will get Juri, but he will also get a decent pre-nup since he's smart, and his mom will probably insist on proper behavior and an even exchange, so Juri will have to behave, so that's that. And it will serve JS right to be cheated on.
Actually I prefer In Seon to turn out to be a playboy and cheats JR of her love. It will be karma for JR. She needs to learn what it feels like to be cheated on just like what HJ has gone through.
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Looks like YW is set to punish and bring down YuRan for the affair with JH. But what about JH ? I hope JW will also punish JH and shouldnt let him get away scot free. He is even worse than YuRan. At least YuRan is not ashamed, admits to the affair and fights for her love but unfortunately, JH thinks otherwise and it backfired. Look how JH treated her. He literally threw her out of his house and did not even give her a second glance. We can say that YuRan deserves it but I really want to see JH getting punished twice as much.
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I really don't know what CJ sees in JB. He is really blind. There is nothing to like about her. Never like her behaviour or her looks and the way she talks is so annoying especially her voice. Perhaps the actress is over acting her role and if she was instructed to richard simmons off the audience then she certainly has succeeded. CJ finds JB pretty. Someone please tell him that JB's face is paid with HJ's hard earned, sweat and blood money.
But in the end, I guess both will be together (so hard to stomach this). The writer has been trying hard to white wash her but she is still as irritating as ever. Perhaps she might seek HJ for help or offer to work for HJ to redeem herself, hoping that HJ or mom will see the change in her to get their blessings.
If CJ and JB marries, then HJ will have to face JS which might be a bit awkward; from husband to ex-husband to in-laws. How would YuRi address JS ? father ? uncle ? It is better for her to call JS uncle because after the divorce, he didn't even bother to ask about YuRi or visit her at all. Did he forget that he has a daughter ?
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I stopped watching when the writer is going along with CJ/JB pairing. Luckily I didn't watch the episode where CJ/JB slept together else I will vomit and have nightmare. What is the writer thinking ? SMH...
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By the way, whose company which JH is currently working belongs to ? Is it from JH's side of family or YW side of family ?
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41 minutes ago, lclarakl said:
All I can think is why put BS through this misery writer. We all know HK and JE are end game. Yes the writer has thrown in some surprising, especially basically giving JE a pass and making SR the sole bad guy (men always get a pass and women suffer), but it's pretty clear that HK and JE will be together in the end.
HOWEVER, WHY, WHY, do this to BS? Please leave the man alone and let him get over his love of HK. HK why are you so selfish????? Why can't you ask JE to help you get your life on the right track? Help you correct what you've done viciously? Protect your sister YongKi? And why do you want to say goodbye to JE? I don't understand why you love him, but you do--so say goodbye by yourself and stop using BS' love against him!!!
I think HG's decision to leave JE is because of her plan to expose the company. Since JE is the son the company, he will be very conflicted if he is with her. That is why she is requesting TS to remove JE from his position and transfer him to the research department. She does not want JE to be torn between her and the company. Exposing the company is going to be very messy and ugly.
To HG, BS is someone she can trust and a very good friend. BS is also very clear that HG does not love him. It will only be friendship between HG and BS. BS is helping HG willingly clearly knowing this.
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So, the full impact of JE's adultery has finally hit upon HG. Even though HG's words are very harsh but JE deserved it.
Conversation of HG to JE after she came out of BS house (to be best of my knowledge) :
HG: Heard that I have lived there for 4 years. The man whom I stayed with is now crying. Crying painfully. Looks as if he cries because of me. I am also very mindful of that man... that man's tears. Very mindful of how he looks at me. It is as if that man loves me. For me, I will probably forget my hatred towards you very quickly...Wiping that man's tears..Handing over my exhaused mind to that man's love. The state of mind is very strange. Why is it that I am more worried for that man more than you. It is as if the feeling of losing someone very percious. It is as if losing someone whom I shouldn't lose...sad and unjustified kind of feeling. I want to start afresh. Eventhough I don't know why you treat me as such, your own feelings, you have to settle it yourself. I want to start afresh. Help me. Choi Jin Eon. I will eliminate you from my life. I request this of you.
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3 hours ago, Hayat Budur said:
IMO, since HK has started to remember the old JE, now she will start to hate him. She will act like she does not love him.
HG only remembers her daughter's death was caused indirectly by her. She remembers the pain JE went through and how he hated and blamed her for their daughter's death. She already feel very bad for whom she was and now that she remembers why her daughter died, she will blame herself even more. Feeling guilty, I think she may want to avoid JE. But I really hope not and I hope JE can assure her, stick with her and worked it out because this is one of the factor why their marriage broke down.
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@deandraluv, if I have not seen episode 1 to 9, I would have supported JE fully in pursuing HG and resuming their relationship. Such a romantic man who has eyes only for his ex-wife. Who wouldn't support him ? But..episode 1 to 9 throws everything out of perspective. It is a very crucial event in their relationship.
Adultery is not to be taken lightly. It is not just about him with another woman but it is about the trust. HG trusted JE fully and telling others that JE is not that kind of person. She was so sure of him. She found a side of him that she didn't knew. Once the trust is broken, it will be extremely hard to get it back where it was.
Don't get me wrong. I am all for the OTP. I wanted them to end up together but right now I feel JE is coming on too fast on HG. 'You are my wife. I want you to come back to me. I want you to leave the house and stay with me'. It is all about his wants. OMG. Give HG a break. Give her time to find about herself before anything else.
Without knowing the past, you think it is fair to lead HG to continue their relationship? JE knew everything but HG knew nothing.
@rikimaiu, I have to agree. However, at the moment, I'm not for the OTP because I don't like one of them at the moment. During episodes 1-9, I just was looking for one thing from JE--signs of remorse for his actions or signs of guilt. I saw none of that during his cheating stage. HG had a lot of faith in JE and their bond together, only for him to betray her---not with just the affair, but his total casting her aside.
I too think JE is coming on very fast. He hasn't taken any steps to date her again. After only being back, what?, a couple of months if that, he's dropping one woman and wants HG to move in the house with him (all in about 2 weeks). I'm sorry, but I think he needs to 'woo' his wife again; especially considering that she doesn't have all her memory back. She's missing 8 years or more. She doesn't remember the affair, the birth or death of their child; but she's heard about the affair and her attempted suicide from SR. She doesn't remember the emotional turmoil that was associated with that affair or the despair she was feeling to the point of wanting to kill herself. Nor does she remember him getting on his knees to beg his father to throw her away or the horrible things he said to her. Those words when she remembers them are going to cut like a knife.
If JE really wants a solid relationship with HG, he would truly try to focus on her emotional and mental health before trying to pursue a 'lets live together' as if they are still married with 'no water under the bridge'.
HG is loves JE because she doesn't remember any of the bad or the pain she felt from his betrayer and hateful things he said. Her 'love' at this moment is in a vacuum with nothing to temper it.
@Iclarakl, I have to agree with you on this. Very well said. In my opinion, at the moment, the impact of what has happened just before the divorce has not fully hit her yet. All the facts are based on what others told her. It is very different from remembering it yourself and feel it.
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@deandraluv, if I have not seen episode 1 to 9, I would have supported JE fully in pursuing HG and resuming their relationship. Such a romantic man who has eyes only for his ex-wife. Who wouldn't support him ? But..episode 1 to 9 throws everything out of perspective. It is a very crucial event in their relationship.
Adultery is not to be taken lightly. It is not just about him with another woman but it is about the trust. HG trusted JE fully and telling others that JE is not that kind of person. She was so sure of him. She found a side of him that she didn't knew. Once the trust is broken, it will be extremely hard to get it back where it was.
Don't get me wrong. I am all for the OTP. I wanted them to end up together but right now I feel JE is coming on too fast on HG. 'You are my wife. I want you to come back to me. I want you to leave the house and stay with me'. It is all about his wants. OMG. Give HG a break. Give her time to find about herself before anything else.
Without knowing the past, you think it is fair to lead HG to continue their relationship? JE knew everything but HG knew nothing.
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@airgelaal, We have to remember that HG in now grasping to know her own identity; who she was, what kind of person she was, her mother, the loss of her daughter, her life with JE etc. The impact of her failed marriage and adultery has not hit upon her yet. In my opinion her relationship with JE will change when she regains all her memories. Both of them have not have a proper talk yet and JE has yet to apologize to her and seek her forgiveness for his adultery. I would say their current relationship is only superficial.
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@rikimaui HK is aware that JE had an affair with SR when he was married to her. She has known that since she met him again.
She may not remember it but she is aware of it so it won't come as a complete shock. There is not false pretense in that regard.
@thegoldbug, yes, HG knew about the JE/SR affairs when they were married and even tried to commit suicide. When they met again after 4 years, she knew JE is SR's boyfriend. But then, she didn't know she is JE's ex-wife and it has no impact to her. With her amnesia, she probably didn't remember that JE cheated on her with SR during the marriage. In my opinion, right now, she don't remember that JE cheated on her. It is going to be a huge difference in their relationship when she remembers everything especially the scene where JE begs his father to kick her out.
Right now JE is taking the advantage of her memory loss to be close to her again knowing that she still has not regain her memory especially with regards to his adultery. When HG asked JE why did they divorce, he mentioned it was due to 'exhaustion of love'. If he told her that it was because he was 'sick' of her and had an affair, how would HG react ?
I would say right now the whole affair thing has not hit upon HG yet. I am still waiting for the bomb to explode when she fully regains her memory.
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We all know both BS and JE loves HG in their own different ways. My heart goes to BS and I felt sorry for him. It's just that HG just can't bring herself to love him and will only treat him as a very special friend. The fact that she turned away phyiscal contact (when BS trying to kiss her) with him speaks volume. But when HG is with JE, it is very different. She has a strong attraction to JE just like a magnate. Whether she is HG or YK2, she still loves JE. Love doesn't mean they have to end up together but it will be hard for HG to see BS as a 'man'.
JE with his usual 'selfish' self is rushing things with HG. It is still based on what he wants and not what is good for HG. I just hope HG will keep a distance from him until she gets back all her memories. It will not good for their relationship at this point to get together again as the relationship is build on fake pretences. JE should tell HG about his relationship with SR outfront and not kept her in the dark as it will hurt HG even more when she remembers it.
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@Tata555, OMG!!!! How truly creative you are!! I love your analogy using boots.
What you've stated is where I stand in trying to understand this drama as a woman living in the 21st century in the year 2015 and not in the days of "The Little House on the Prairie" in regards to relationships between a man and a woman having an affair.
That's why it's no "allegedly" intimacy between SR and JE, it was from everything presented that definitely stated intimacy. I don't see why a man fully dressed tracing a woman's face in one scene, is next shown in a state of undress with his arm wrapped around a woman who has on only a T-shirt if they didn't have sex. Similar to how JR's husband had on his under wares when caught by his wife in the hotel with another woman)--part of the 'modesty' K-dramas TV try to present (night and day difference in movies though--it's like soft porn).
Again, I loved your post.
The writer can try and say there was no sex between Jin-eon and Seol-ri.
So, until she provides further clarification on that subject, their intimacy will be deemed as "alleged", at least by some...
However, I do agree that if that happens, it will definitely sound ridiculous.
I would like to think that the relationship between JE and SR is anything but sexual. I rewatched past episodes and below gave some hints.
Conversation between JR and SR at episode 16 regarding HR/YK2 and JE.
JR : They lived with each other for so many years. How could he get her mixed up with his wife ? A married couple knows everything about each other. How many times he or she go to the bathroom, what kind of poop it is, if he or she has a spot on the butt or if he or she has a wart ont he chest area, whether the second or the third toe is longer or if he or she has a gold-plated tooth or a silver-plated tooth. They know everything about each other. (JR giving SR a sly look). You haven't seen those sides of him yet ? You must not have gotten there yet ? That's a relief. Yet.
SR looked uneasy and said nothing.
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Well thanks @lclarakl
There's goes that rosy daydream ....
...she got you didn't she?...you fall so easy ah@lclarakl yes, we'll have a similar scene but this time with 2 person who share mutual and true feelings...can't wait
Sorry, just stating the facts.
Also, at the time of the scenes, both couples were sharing similar feelings for each other. When it was SR and JE, he had her in his heart at that time and he was most definitely in her heart.
We may not like it, but the fact is, at that time JE had some pretty strong feelings for SR. He couldn't stand the touch or feel of his wife, but he most definitely could endure SR's touch and feel. It's a fact. We can't re-write history (no matter how hard the writer is trying at times).
Your killing me with these facts
Seriously though, can I just admit to being a tad wee bit disappointed if she does take him back so soon? Where's the cold shoulder, the how dare you etc etc. I don't want HK ending up being a doormat, she has more pizzazz than that. He should have to fight for her love just a wee bit more.
I am also a bit disappointed if she does accept him too soon and that seems to be the case based on the stills, but not accepting him and denying it will only cause both more pain. Because we know she really truly love him and can't love anybody else.
I agree. I'm actually afraid more than being happy if what we see in the stills is the full picture. Being back together this soon can only mean more melo and heartache for viewers cos HK and JE surely would have something that would 'break them up' temporarily, if the end game of them together is what writernim has in mind. Though it's still anyone's guess right now. And I agree totally that HK really truly loves JE and only him.
I doubt writernim will make HK a doormat. I'm feeling a smart and strong woman is what writernim has in mind. (For both HK and YK). I believe JE will have to fight for HK. Perhaps being 'accepted' this soon is perhaps because HK has not fully remembered everything?
As for saying JE definitely has SR in his heart, I don't agree. It's true that JE ditched HK for SR. But that was more out of anger and desperation than because he loves SR. We heard that from JR as well. And we heard something to that effect from SR herself. Also, JE couldn't bear 'skinship' with HK then because what he saw of HK becoming - cold and ruthless - was piercing him like a knife. He loves HK too much and he was hurting for him and for her. As for why he was attracted to SR, the only reason was because he saw the pure and innocence in SR which he saw in HK back then during their school days, and which made him go madly in love with HK. JE mistakenly thought he could be out of love with HK when he chose to go with SR. But as we have heard, while in the US, he had been dreaming about HK and their late ES. And SR hearing dreams like that from JE doesn't mean they slept together throughout the 4 years there. Like TS could overhear MH in his nightmare when he went to his bedroom, likewise SR heard JE while he was napping in his research lab chair, or wherever he slept/napped. Although I must admit that to think JE and SR have never slept together, as in did the deed, that would be quite unbelievable.
Also, I don't believe there was any rewriting being done by writernim. I think many of us are jumping to conclusion on many things from seeing eps 1-9. We are still not even half-way through 50. I still believe something will happen that will make JE and SR end up heading towards marriage. Perhaps till the last minute before it becomes official. And I do believe writernim will give us flashbacks into those early days, those 2-4 years in US, and so on. And I do believe JE only loves HK, and her only him too.
If I am not mistaken, JE and SR left separately and studied in different countries after JE's divorce. In the last 4 years, they weren't together. I believe they have slept together during their affairs when HG was around but after the divorce, I doubt they slept together since they are apart.
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My POV, IMO on JE based on episodes thru 18 and what is projected/previewed for Episode 19.
Is JE a great, upstanding, guy who firmly stands by the commitments that he has had made to the woman in his life --- NOT, NO WAY.
--Married HK- Marriage vows-- for better or worse -- But problems occurred, so throw HK away, divorced her in a very harsh manner.
-- SR -- JE commits to her, that we will walk this road together to the end -- but then dumps her because now he wants someone else (HK/YK2 the ex wife he now sees as the good sweet, no problems, HK he first met.
-- HK/YK2 -- When she clearly expresses to him to see me, love me, as the women in front of you now and not as your ex wife or I will leave now -- JE holds her back with his smooth words and they continue on together to spend the night -- I feel that HK/YK2 feels he (JE) has now committed to her as a woman and not an ex wife. But no, once he finds out and at least for now accepts that his ex wife is dead, he basically dumps her (at least based on what EP 19 is supposed to show us).
To me this continues to show JE as a selfish, self centered person who wants what he wants, when he wants it and does not care how this makes others feel.
Additional note -- therefore, IMO when HK does her get full memory of past back she will know that her great love has dumped her twice. If after all this she still in the end wishes to be with JE, then so be it, it is of course her choice that must be honored.
Many more episodes and twists - writer will, as she has to this point, continue to show more information, which will of course then update and likely change how we feel, see things at this point -- great drama, great writer, look forward to seeing future episodes.
@kfan7172, very welll said. This is exactly my sentiments. JE has a long way to go and a lot to learn before he and HK can get back together. Before that, I hope HK can refrain herself from giving in to him even though she loves him.
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thitu said:
@ni8tingayle_4f78, sure enough that I have never been disappointed by any Taiwanese kisses, especially Mike He (king of kisses) lol. So let's see whether Danson will disappoint me or not. Regarding Zi Zhang and the lady boss, I have a gut feeling that the reason why she is attentive toward Zi Zhang is because she is in love with his dad, remember her reation when Xiao Tong brings up Zi Zhang's restaurant as their dating revenue in earlier episodes. There seems to be a connection some how. We are going to find out later. Besides our main OTP, I think another love pair has been introduced in this episode. You know who are they right? It's Xin Xin and Jr
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I am glad Zhan Cheng told Yu Xi about Ya Ti's being the recipient of Luo Han's heart. I am worried that Luo Han's heart in Ya Ti might want to rekindle the relationship with Zhan Cheng. I hope that Zhan Cheng is strong enough not to get entangled with Ya Ti. He needs to tell Luo Han's heart he has moved on but perhaps Luo Han's may not let go thus causing misunderstanding between Yu Xi and Zhan Cheng.
There's no Li Bo Yan and Vanessa in today's episode. I had thought that Bo Yan would use Vanessa's pregnancy and marry her to get hold of Vanessa's mother's company. Strangely he told her he did not want the baby. -
@wheeresstephanie, I read somewhere the ex girl friend did not die. The accident was caused by Xiao Tong's ex boy friend. In the accident, the ex girl friend's face was disfigured. Xiao Tong's ex boy friend took up the responsibility and send her to US for treatment.
So both of the exes will be back sometime in the drama. -
Our OTP is sooooooooooooo cute in episode 4 ! Jia Wei is finding every excuses to be with Xiao Tong to the extend of coming up with a joint project with the 'enemies'. At the mountain, I had thought he would have given her his jacket but instead he shared it with her to keep her by his side.
As @thitu said, let's enjoy all their moments before the ex girl friend turns up and ruin every thing.-
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Can't wait for this drama to start. Oh Yeon Seo surprises me with her outstanding acting in Jang Bo Ri is here and Jang Hyuk is a veteran actor. OYS will definitely look very pretty in a Sageuk and JH is forever handsome and charming.
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Anything can happen in kdrama land right ? With the writer so crank up, I won't be surprise if in the end the writer decides to let SH and MM share RR (since MM/SH are good buddies now). RR will stay with SH for a week and then stay with MM for another, alternating between 2 men. A different scenerio will be for SH/MM/RR all staying in the same house and RR will just have to go from room to room. How about that, writer nim ? Since the story is deranged, you might as well take it that way till the end.
...she got you didn't she?...you fall so easy ah
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It is HC's turn to abandon SJ and erase her from his memory. SJ needs to experience the taste of her own medicine.