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8 hours ago, sakura2016 said:
thank you for the translation chingu!!
I really don't know myself!! obviously his condition is for santa maria team's sake but why would he leave everything and everyone?!!
let's hope they won't do that to us....
Hi chingu, welcome
I believe Min Kyu's reaction is totally understandable and won't say he was "abusive" toward Ji Ah, that's for sure!! he was going through a breakdown believing that he was taken advantage of, used, fooled and made fun of his feelings which is totally understandable!! she was the 1st person he opened up to after all these years and shared with her his deepest secrets and feelings that no one knew of, even confessed his love to her as Aji 3 then he opened to her again as Ji Ah only to realise that all he believed and lived was a big lie, we know that she and santa maria really cared for him and loved him but he doesn't, all he can see is that they approached him as KM Finanace's chairman to save/help their career (she as well needed him for the competition) and although they knew about his human allergy they "risked" his life "for their own reasons" (again we know the full story while he doesn't) and to him since everything started with a lie that everything that he believed after that was a lie and an act to fool him and he was the only one on the losing end being left to suffer with his love for her while she left to carry on with her life and her not wanting anything with him and acting as a stranger with him when he met her as Hong Joo (again not her true identity) was another proove that she never loved him and was by his side as Aji 3 till she got what she wanted so him not accepting her food and not getting why she's coming everyday to his house when she was fine with leaving him before is understandable and his pain and frustration feeling betrayed is totally understandable!! it was painful yes but Ji Ah was aware of the pain she caused him and wanted to show him her sincere heart (which she did) but he needed time to collect himself and see their true love through all the lies they showerd him with!! now that he's getting there he'll be able to give and accept (sincere) love from those he loves and loves him back again!!
I just think he is a bit of a brat really. He needs to get over himself. Sure, you feel betrayed but that is really no way to behave. He is just lucky that Ji Ah is extremely patient and loves him unconditionally. I think YSH's portrayal of this very flawed character is excellent.My guess about tonight's episode is this: This insecure man, full of contradictory actions goes to the meteor shower hoping to find Ji Ah there. When he sees her, he turns away. WTH, didn't he go there to see if she'd come? The insecure, low esteem person in him is fishing for an affirmation and assurance that she indeed loves him. I think that's when JA says don't go. I think he wanted to kiss her but she fell asleep from all that exhaustion dealing with him.
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Hello everyone! I have to delurk to bring up something I wonder if any of you had noticed.
I love the drama, the story, and the great acting by YSH and CSB. I have been a fan of CSB since Sassy Go Go. She plays the villain there but I was so drawn to her because she was just such a great actress. And here in this drama, I am totally amazed by YSH's acting and I will definitely watch out for him in the future.B-BUT I can't say I like YSH's character in the drama. I do sympathise with KMG. He has trouble trusting people and I can understand why he is so angry at JA for lying to him but right from day 1, I think KMG has been a rich spoilt brat. Yes, he does show his gentle and kind side at times but most of the time, he is totally self centred. He treated AJ3 badly because he thought she was just a robot, and just because he cannot reconcile his feelings for a robot. Now that he found out the truth, he behaves so horrendously to JA. The violence, the disrespect. This whole time all he thought about was he and himself. I feel like entering the screen and be Sun Hye and slap him although I do think Sun Hye shines and is the hero of the show. I cannot believe that JA would just stand there and allow herself to be a punching bag. Unlike JA, I don't think I could continue to go back to the abuses that he would hurl at me even if I am in the wrong. Somehow I think this sends a wrong signal to women out there as to what we should endure for the man we love. Now that the couple is heading for reconciliation, I do hope they will show KMG being much better to JA than he was before. I hope the roles will reverse and that he will start serving her and treating her right.
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Wow, that finale was a little bit abrupt though I am glad they tied in all the clues nicely. Maybe we just need script shippers to tell us all the sublimal messages we missed again.
Thank you to everyone on this thread. It has been a nice ride. In my mind, it could have been JH as husband too but I guess the writer has other ideas.-
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6 hours ago, MrsSoJiSub said:
I agree with you. It would be dumb of me to not know that yeah the writers and team feed into both ships. You can't have a love triangle if you don't give both sides something to hang on to. But with everything you said, was that really what that one poster was and had been doing. Their first few posts I really enjoyed it was the subquent ones that followed that was like "WTF" for me. Some things that were not in the subs, were being quoted as being said and having been in the subs but lost in translation or whatever. Also the whole "shipping clouds judgement" tis true and that's exactly what I felt they were doing. But yo, it's all water under the bridge to me. The show ends in 3 days and it never should have gotten as deep as it did get. The post wasn't really about you so much as I could see the forthcoming arguments of "I have been Taeked" and going off on the writers and PD and such because of the some of the content in those long post. If it seemed like I was tearing down your perspective or something of the sort, that was not my intention.
*goes back to back reading...
No worries. No offence taken. I understood where you were coming from. This is a forum and very often we do not know who is behind the post. It could be a 14yo or it could be a 40yo. Heck, it could even be people from the entertainment industry themselves paid to create waves on the internet. Some people has so much insights that I have not seen or heard that if it were to come true as what they have said, I would think it suspicious that information was deliberately "leaked" "accidentally on purpose". But like you said, it will be all water under the bridge in three days so let's just enjoy and ignore comments that irritate us. BTW I have always liked reading your candid posts and I look forward to reading more of it even as we find out who the husband is in three days!
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@MrsSoJiSub I think that there are always things to learn from others. Directors do use camera angles and what not to convey messages. Granted that yes, there are some people have seen and hear things that were not there but if they are supported with rational logic, I respect their opinion. I personally do agree that shipping clouds judgment. I have joined threads before where the lovelines were vague and there are people who start to abuse each other because they got emotional about their ship. Many had joined reply because of PBG and hence their viewing of the show makes them bias towards Taek. There is nothing wrong in itself except when they start abusing people who disagreed with them. I too like you think that the natural flow of the story screams JH as husband which is why I am here hiding from aggressive Taek shippers from the MT. But I have to say that thanks to some Taek shippers, I do see the hidden manipulations the director has used to throw the audience off track. For me, the last two replys were quite obvious to me who the husband was but this time round, I did get a little confused. Especially the part where the script had said that the husband took a long time to speak banmal to Noeul. All I can say is that everyone has their perspective but if we can acknowledge others without tearing each other down, perhaps then we can all enjoy the director and writer's perspective.
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Whatever I guess about ep 19 is never going to happen so why bother? I know that from the preview it seems that DS rejected Taek so I have a hunch the opposite is going to be true. Taek is going to confess but the tears welling up in his eyes could very well be that DS responded to him just as he teared when his Dad said I love you. But from the preview so much emphasis is being put on the Kim and Sung family so I think the two families will be in laws somehow. I am anticipating that the producer and writer will just floor me with their surprises and twist and turn at the end.
i like some of the insights and analysis of Taek's fans that really convinced me that Taek is one tough contender. I personally feel that Taek is only second because the producers had developed JH and his story more at the beginning and thus he captured the audience's hearts earlier than Taek. Perhaps this is the same for DS. She loves Taek too but unfortunately her heart has already been given to JH.
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Chingu-yah, quoting Bora, I think if there is one percent chance that DS likes JH, JH will be husband. I feel that JH really owned much of the memorable scenes of this series. It is as if the whole drama was written from his point of view.
His confession must be one of the most heart felt of the three series. I can see the tears welling up in DS' eyes. When Taek came to greet her at the concert, the look was surprised. Was JH too late? Yes maybe Taek did get to her first and they may even date briefly but I don't think her feelings for JH is resolved yet judging from her reaction.
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@MrsSoJiSub I simply love you! You have renewed my faith to believe in my instincts that JH is husband. I also cannot give any technical analysis on camera angles and script writing but somehow I feel that JH is husband. Sometimes I wonder if that makes me a JH shipper even though I had claimed I am not but I stick to my original gut feel. I did not have any predisposition to like any of the actors or characters but it is the way the story flows that makes me feel that JH should be husband. So Jungpal fighting!
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4 minutes ago, debieg said:
I know I'm ranting but I just want to say this... It annoys me how people just making an excuse to say they are team JH, but says TK is the Husband because the future husband is having a TK vibe in last episode. Like seriously using that lame excuse I'm teamjunghwan but I believe TK is the husband. Ugh grow up guys that is low. And I'm referring to somecomment in yt.
I think both the leads were totally compelling that's why.
As I wrote in the main thread, the scales are now tipping in Taek's favour. Thank you @tituphing for confirming that JH spoke in banmal. I don't have high hopes for JH being husband anymore but all I can say is that his performance was such that he was really worthy to be husband. This is the first time I got it wrong with the hubby guessing game but I have learnt a lot from the insightful posts.
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Guys, I am not a shipper but I still think JH is hubby. It can't be when obvious clues point to JH and hidden meanings point to Taek and it becomes Taek can it? Please can someone tell me if JH was speaking to Noeul in banmal or jondae when he gave him the pink gloves to pass to DS?
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3 minutes ago, JCgirl 001 said:
first image has a statue of a groom carrying a bride... are they referring to DS/TK Bridal carry ? damn producer/writer is trolling us again!! lol
Wow the dolls does look like clues. There seem to be a girl between DS and the green doll. I say the green doll because Taek's fans are going to argue that Taek is green but I think JH is green. So sad that the purple doll and the red doll are at the far end of each other. I really hope SW will end up with BR. Maybe BR was the girl that Trash dated and broke up with. Remember Najung found out about that?-
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13 minutes ago, wizengamot said:
lol, i was replaying that scene just now and yeah, i noticed that he just come out straight from the comfort room hahahaha!!!
@yours19 i thought so too. but maybe we'll see the adult tomorrow
@JCgirl 001 seeing mom Sung's bank book, yeah i was hoping they would move (but please, let them stay in the Ssangmundong block).
@ainipang expect the Reply team to drag the hunt til the last episode. in R97, last episode, they are still showing YJ and his hyung running to the hospital when SW was giving birth and being asked who is the father of the baby/husband of the SW, when in fact, an episode before that they already showed SW hitting YJ for getting her pregnant.
@sheza yeah i bet they are subtlety throwing that too. hahahaha!!! seeing if anyone could be trolled by that heh
BTW, did you noticed that SW is now a lot meaner to DS now that he is no longer dating the sister? Did he normally tease her like that? Now it seems like JH is the one keeping quiet.-
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@wizengamot *lol* but they are throwing that up in the air too judging by the breakup. They must have read the chocolate theory! hahaha
Today's episode really made Taek looks like a possibility.
Now the question hinge on whether the kiss is real and reciprocated?!
How is PD going to explain all the future husband scenes if Taek is the husband? My money is still on JH.
I really think JH will confess and do a Yoon Jae and "disappear"...date other girls etc ...Taek will seize his opportunity then. Hope there won't be any rage in the MT if things don't work out between DS and Taek.-
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Sorry to ask this: but what does wanyeol mean?
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@wizengamot Yes I am here not as a shipper but as a fan of the drama who thinks JH is the husband.
About the wedding comments: I don't see her as a Taek shipper. Similarly to me, I think she is neutral. Just that I haven't been able to see Taek's arc the way she has and so I only comment on JH's arc but that could make people misunderstand that I am a JH shipper. I think she comments on Taek because the way Taek's arc was shot isn't so obvious and she wants to point that out which I personally find refreshing. I know it sounds like I am defending her but really on the forum, sometimes we read the words but we don't see the body language and the tone and because we do not know each other personally, it can cause quite a bit of misunderstanding.
But of course I know, Taek's fans are going to have a field day because it would be read as Taek being the husband. They are expecting a twist like what @nurul choerunnisa mentioned. That's what keep the ratings up and the story interesting till the very end, don't you think? It has us riveted to our seats and commenting on forums like this creating more of an uproar! *lol* I give the credit all to the directors for being able to troll without affecting the characterisation and storyline.
I am a simple person. I just go with the flow of the story line and right now it tells me that husband in JH so let's see. . Four more episodes! Reply 1988 fighting!
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11 minutes ago, papulichan said:
HAHAHHAHAHAHA....... fantastic !! Who would have thought about that.....
.... probably had multiple retakes.....LOL..
Haha! Don't laugh at him... core strength has nothing to do with size. To be honest, in another drama recently ( is it SWP? not too sure), I was so surprised when PSJ carried HJE like it is no effort. We have not seen Taek's abs have we? *cue to PD nim if you are trolling this thread!*-
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@einYoshiChan @dinhie @Adwina Oltariani Thanks for the welcome chingus!
@ricenamja I normally don't post such a long post either but I have been refraining from writing on the main thread for days so I just had a verbal diarrhoea! mian! *lol*-
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Oh I forgot, ...talking about kisses. I think for me the first kiss from Sung Shi Won and Yoon Jae at the staircase was the hottest. BR and SW's kiss at the bench was similar to that kiss if we are talking about the execution of it all. During 1997, Yoon Jae touching Shi Won's hand was an ad-lib. I guess PD realised how great that was and decided to make BR hold SW's hands and even clasping it tighter during the kiss. Ah, it is amazing. They recycle the story three times and still we like to watch the Reply series. Though they kept doing the husband trolling, we are still watching. They must be thinking: "suckers!" Hahaha
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Hi, this is my first time posting on the shipper thread. Hope you don't mind me joining in here as I have this feeling that I am watching a different drama from some of the people on the main thread. Don't get me wrong. Though I believe that the husband is JH, I do not mind alternate passionate views, just not ridiculous or aggressive views. I know many Taek shippers take the post about camera angles as an endorsement that Taek is end game but I personally think while the post is about how much Taek liked DS, it doesn't necessarily mean so they are end-game. It just means that PD shin is brilliant, that's all. Also, I think the actors have been quite clear in their expression unlike in School 2015 so I am not expecting any surprises.
I came into this show with zero shipping. I don't know the actors and have not preference one way or another. Still don't but I sound like a JH shipper because the drama has drawn my attention to his story very early on.
There are a few reasons why I think JH is end game:
1. The adult version resemble JH. The interactions between the adult versions screams DS and JH. I think if it were not JH, the adult version resemble DR more than Taek. I don't know if it is a "mistake" in hindsight for them to show adult versions to tell the story because many could already make that guess through the mannerism. PD Shin being a precise and perfectionist, would have made the adult version act like the youth version. The reason I say a mistake is because I think after the first few snippets, they have completely stopped showing the adult version. If the husband is Taek, I think there must be a major lobotomy on Taek's part to become a person that is totally different from the Taek we have seen today. The gentle, sweet Taek who is never rude though he is taught to swear and is one who is especially defer to DS. While Taek shippers hang on to the fact that future husband smokes and Taek smokes, I want to point out that, it is easy to pick up or drop external habits like smoking but it is very much harder to change character. Jung Hwan could very well pick up smoking. Some may argue that after marriage, Taek will treat DS differently, then my respond to them is let's wait and see if this is the direction PD Shin will take.
2. While PBG and GKP were the more famous ones, RJY received "top billing" as someone had said. The writers and PD has taken great pains to set up the story and establishing relationships around the Kim and the Sung family. No scene is wasted in Reply series. Just like how they show BR interacted with SW's mom, they have also shown how DS interacted with Kim sajang. It is not random. Just like Taek's China scenes all showed how he likes DS and how DS cared for him must have touched him. One of the reasons why people don't really see JH with DS is, the reason why JH likes DS is not readily known. We know he likes her based on his actions but we don't really know why. I sincerely do not think physical attraction of the wall scene was the only thing. I think it may have evoke some emotion but the proud moment where he smiled at the TV, the protection in the bus, and the sincere wish that she would not be hurt even when he is trying to hide his feelings showed that he really cared for her. Even details like when he went back to retrieve her while running away from DR's dad before the wall scene showed that he thought of her while DR and SW just ran off.
3. I know many Taek shippers think that the write up about the camera angle means Taek has a chance but even the writer wrote:
Quote. The writer is a professional; she’s adept at making the 2nd lead male look extremely appealing, and viable as a romantic lead. That’s her job: to create a CREDIBLE rival to compete with the male lead for the girl’s heart. No matter how tempting she’ll make TK to be, she’s only using a secondary character as foil to highlight the admirable traits of lead character who’s been predetermined at the very start of the drama.
And really, Taek has been made a very appealing and viable romantic lead. It really doesn't matter if he first love DS more than JH. What matters is if he is the last love. Is he? Right from the onset, we know that DS has a very amiable relationship with Taek but there weren't any signs of interest in Taek other than she likes him - but as what? A brother? A friend? A lover? I have not seen Taek move DS emotionally till the recent episodes. With JH it was clear as day. Every simple gesture from JH either sets her off or cause confusion flutters in her heart. She was thinking about JH being the possibility. Taek's fan may argue that the last 4 episodes may jolly well be showing that DS will suddenly have an epiphany that she does like Taek after all and has been liking him all along. Well, if that's the case, I concede because I am not shipping JH anyway but I trust that the PD and writers will give me a satisfying explanation to such an ending perhaps through a whole heap of flashbacks. But based on the pacing of the show, I have my doubts.
Now onto the preview. They are generally trolls but I can't help myself speculating about it.
When DS' friend told her that Taek thinks she is a push over, perhaps DS will finally realise that all the lying and pretending from Taek was because he had liked her and wanted attention from her. Perhaps then she will find out that Taek likes her. Will she feel confusion with her feelings from JH or will it be a burden for her? The preview does seem to show Taek and DS lying side by side but not looking at each other. Taek seems to be looking at DS back. Then for the BTS of the soccer field, I am predicting that either Taek offers her a piggy back and she refused and started walking and Taek valiantly scooped her up showing all his friends the manly side of him or after she refused, JH couldn't take it anymore and valiantly scooped her up so she won't hurt herself. I think I said before in the main thread, and I am going to say it again after seeing JH's sad wish face in the preview. JH seems like the type who would sacrifice his feelings and would not do anything unless the person he loves is hurt. There is no way JH would hurt Taek by dating DS readily and there is no way he would hurt DS voluntary. Even though he won't confess, he won't be able to handle her being hurt.
I end my long post summarising this:
It is easy to love a gentle, good natured boy like Taek but it is difficult to love a prickly loner like JH. Even Lee Mi Yeon (who is coincidentally JH's bae) wondered why she married a husband like "him". Who do you think the him was? Obviously someone that is more difficult to love. I really like the scene where DS said to JH after the concert when he criticised her short skirt. When she said: "what will you do without me?" JH looked momentarily shocked that his secret was found out. But really, I am looking forward to the last four episodes, where this secret of his will be found out and he will be forced to answer the question if he could live without our heroine Sung Deok Sun.
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Woo Hoo the healer sound track is finally available on iTunes in my region. I am going to be listening to it over and over again with Healer images in my brain!
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I know it is over but I am rewatching the ending all over again and again cause I simply love it that Healer is always there to protect Young Shin no matter what. Young shin was concerned for the researcher but Healers' concern is always Young Shin.
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I hope someone will make a video of all the Healer-CYS moments. BIG HINT HINT
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1000 page post to say kamsahamida to everyone here!
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Thank you to all the recapppers and translators. I could not watch it live by refreshing soompi like crazy, this comes close, thanks to all of you. I realized that I am probably not going to be happy with the ending because i wish to swap places with CYS and that ain't gonna happen.
.... probably had multiple retakes.....LOL..
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Your guess was spot on!
I am so much happier with MG after this episode. The longing during the kiss part can be felt so tangibly and the best part wasn't even the kiss but when JA smiled at him after and he giggled. That just turned me to a bowl of mush. I can only credit it to their incredible acting.
To me it was very significant that JA told MG that she needed him. In Ep 1, MG told us he did not need anyone. It was a somewhat consolation statement to himself. With JA telling him that she needs him just reminded him what JA said to him before that if there is just what one person in the world for you, it makes it worthwhile. Well something like that, I paraphrase to make up for my old memory.
Everyone is talking about how they want their next kiss to be. I don't mind fur, but perhaps only on a carpet Operation Proposal style.