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@mistymorning can you stop calling DM calling him a stalker, he was locked up for a number of days and when he got out, he investigated and give help to grandpa's. And yet he is still branded as a stalker? He is actually very busy running his businesses which showed, when he got out of captivity, he had to cover a few places immediately. He doesn't spend all his time on AS.

 

Once I get fed up,  I might start attacking the botox face of EC?   if you don't like DM, just don't talk about him. Like I never talk about EC.

 

This is a bloody Lee byun Hun thread. I see now the Hotaru character actress is from his company too.

 

Goodbye.

 

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12 hours ago, charray said:

 

Dong Mae did help to uncover the plot to intercept the secret letters sent by Ae Shin’s Grandfather to all the scholars and informed Ae Shin’s Grandfather of this. He also killed the lackey of Hiyashi. 

 

Just for discussion purposes, the way I see it, the above actions of Dong Mae are driven or motivated by his desire to protect Ae Shin and her family as well as for his personal revenge. He is not driven by any grand or noble cause of saving Joseon or making Joseon a better place for people of all walks of life. Same can also be said of Eugene. 

Yes, DM is just trying to help AS's grandfather. Anything related to AS, he is trying help. But he is also trying to be very careful, that's why he went alone without his entourage and at night in order not to draw any attention. Otherwise AS family will be affected if neighbours see him entering the house in broad daylight.

 

He has no grudge against AS's family, in fact he knew very well he owes AS his life.

 

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@KDramaLogic I like what you wrote mostly but I think I don't blame AS for not seeing the plight of the lower class.

 

As a noblelady, although she goes for physical training, she must have led a very sheltered life. Since I assume in her household, her slaves must have been kindly and fairly treated, she probably thought everyone does the same thing with their slaves. She probably grew up with a tunnel vision of slaves Are slaves and that's the way society is structured, so she couldn't accept at first that EC was actually a slave by background.

 

Her world is fairly black n white, that's why like what you said she can't see DM beyond his facade. 

 

But I don't blame her, a person is a product of their upbringing, hopefully now that she is older and going out more, she grows to see other perspectives in life.

 

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Sorry to add a bad news, lee Byung hhun together with yoo yeo suk will not attending the celebratory dinner. Oh so sad. Aeshin fan club will not have a get together....

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According to Chinese Weibo news, the celebratory dinner will be on 2 September. 

 

Due to personal schedule, Yoo Yeon Seok will not be able to attend. 

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Havent got the time to watch the latest ep but saw scenes of the eclipse scene and I was stunned, reminded me so much of Scarlet heart. Dongmae is really similar to 4th prince .... 

 

Death coming soon 

 

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Taeri look pretty in American clothes. The director is really very good in scene set up and lightings.

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Just read on China Weibo that the last day of filming was slated for 26 Aug but not sure if the current typhoon will cause delays. In any case, they should really be in the last stage of filming.

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10 hours ago, mistergenie said:

@ ahpheng Oh come on! Dong Mae basically holds the life of an innocent girl to ransom and he also threatened Eugene when Ae Shin went to make the first payment (he said - ''that girl and the person she is protecting by not revealing his name''). I apologize and I know your C-strips are meant to be funny and light hearted but I can never see anything romantic in Dong Mae's manipulative and obsessive actions regarding AeShin. 

I would suggest you don't talk about the character that you dont like. I basically come into this show because of Dongmae. Have it not be him, I wouldn't watch this entire drama at all.

 

DM is a very sad character and doesn't need anybody else to step on him further.

 

 

and they live happily ever after.

 

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@rubie not sure if they are in final stages of filming but when KES skipped the press conference, she did mention their gun licences were only valid till July, so they must have finished most of the gun related scenes.

 

Also too yeon seok, on top of his monthly coffee event, appeared at the back stage of a musical to help out his juniors so am really concern he is having too much time on his hands. But his sidekicks hasn't posted anything about their end of filming, so hopefully DM doesn't die too early.

 

@rocher22 I think EC should see in DM some similarity of someone who has to leave Joseon and survived under difficult circumstances. Although DM doesn't know about EC's background, with his street smarts, he should know EC is a good guy. DM generally admires effective and functional people vs guys like HS who sits around and do nothing much.

 

@seabysea18 historical dramas usually doesn't appeal to everyone, especially on beanies unless it is heavily centered on romance, so I wouldn't be too concern on that. I know of people who refused to watch a period drama.

 

Mr Sunshine is top in ratings and buzz in Korea with a lead far ahead of other dramas. So I think that says something.

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Too many things happened in the latest ep, so I need to rewatch it again before I give more detailed comments but suffice to say all those happenings help boost the ratings rather than the repeated meetings between AS and EC.

 

I really admire KES for going beyond herself writing about political maneuverings instead of just romance. I have been recommending all my friends to watch this drama, because a drama of this genre is so rare in Kdrama arena.

 

Yeah Lee Wan Ik should be murdered soon, I wonder how he will die though, he has made everyone his enemy.

 

Yes, for a loser, HS is very likeable, credits to KES's writing again.

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1 hour ago, loversbridge said:

Episode 13 was a bit on the slow side for me but Hee Sung killed me with his denial in front Ae Shin's grandad D:

Dong Mae caring about Hina warmed my heart

 

Also Lee Wan Ik wanting to marry his daughter to Hee Sung...What do you think about this guys? Even if the marriage wouldn't work it's pretty funny to think about.

 

Yes HS was being the noble fool for trying to take on all the blame by saying he don't want the marriage but AS grandpa seems very wise and knows everything.

 

It's sad that the villain Lee wan ik has intercepted all of grandpa's letters. Am afraid, grandpa is in grave danger now and if something happens to him, AS will be devastated and go all out for revenge.

 

I am sort of disappointed with the scene between AS and DM at the Judo place. I would have hope they showed how DM send her gently away but probably the director can't think of a good way to do it and just ended the scene with AS's puzzled face.

 

Also now it seems like they frame DM to look like he killed Joseph. Actually he went there to meet another foreigner to talk about the railroad security...

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@aurelionsol yes, I think AS will migrate to US with EC.

That is one natural ending and exit plan for her. Because Korea will be colonize very soon in this time period, and nobody remain behind has it easy during that period. Unless they really want to turn AS and EC into martyr patriots who choose to stay behind. Maybe HS will join them too, he should be rich enough to buy the ship ticket. DM and HN will go to Japan. Happy ending for all, nobody dies. 

 

KES will have to be careful of the ending, but I would think when she first thought about the story, she should have some inkling of the ending she wants to tell.

 

Ever since soompi keep revamping their site, the forums has become such a quiet place. So different from the buzzling discussion area from just a few years ago.

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Although I was well aware that Yoo Yeon Seok played the role of a transgender person in the Hedwig musical, I didnt know Byun Yo Han did the same role as well. No wonder both their diction is so good. Such a coincidence. This transgender role had been played by a few actors and seems to be a role that actor's challenge themselves to do. 

 

credit infor to yooyeonsuk ifc

 

 

 

Its amazing how the show managed to add in product placements like the sweets and the cake. I thought the rainbow colour cake was too modern for that era.

 

sat tomorrow!

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@miracle23 yes in those day, people who embraced foreign cultures are frowned upon. This is depicted in many Chinese dramas o that time as well. 

 

I am really not sure if KES changed any o DM n teams portrayal except for changing the groups name. 

 

Yes, looks like Hotaru will be hugging him. From the trailer, I wonder if EC will be the one to rescue DM from the horrible Lee Wan Ik.

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Yah n that guy at the temple, he was give a good few seconds of screen time. He must have some role later.

 

@Ahpheng es time passes too slowly to sat!

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Thanks for the video @charray ice bucket challenge. Lmao.

 

Actually I got a few burning questions about AS and EC:

 

~ Why doesn't EC protest or throw a fit whenever his room get searched?

 

~Who runs the apothecary that allows them free access? Wouldn't somebody else read their mails?

 

~Whats the point of gifting AS the new tech gun, what about the bullets? Is there some mail order channel after she runs out?

 

~The bar that the guys hang out must be the latest chill place in town, it is always packed and they always run into each other there 

 

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15 minutes ago, 12blbl said:

DM visited AS's parents 

 

I think DM sometimes lack of craftiness compare to EC or HS

U are right. For sure, HS is the ladies's man. 

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@miracle23 regarding the tones of DM and Hina when they are speaking under the umbrella, they sound more like good friends to me.

 

The thing with these two is that I believe they have their fair share of relationships and love affairs. Hina was already married and seeing how nonchalant she is about DM walking into her bathtime just showed how worldly she is. Ahem.

 

As for DM, he must have had that pet human Hotoru for awhile. She probably was a damsel in distress that he took in. What sort of relationship they have is up to interpretation but she seems to be there all the time and he probably has his manly needs being an ahem healthy sword wielding man.

 

My point is, perhaps two tired worldly souls dont excite each other very much. So one admire the uniform wearing soldier and the other is a crazy fan boy of a noble lady. 

 

Then again, both of them holding Japanese ID cards made it all so convenient for them to live happily ever after. I guess for now, KES is leaving it open.

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@philosophie yes seems like there are more new characters. Wonder why they suddenly mentioned Hina's step daughter, maybe she will appear later for some purpose.

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I feel really sad for Dong Mae, I know most people here are team Eugene, which is fine, that is the main otp: AS n EC. Hence I rather they make DM an outright violent villain then I will sympathesize him lesser, but he kept being nice to all the women, it just make everything sadder.

 

The scene that surprised me was his monologue infront of AS's parents altar. Who would have expected that he got to meet the parents first? Haha. It breaks my heart further that the next scene cut to AS dating happily. I want to tell DM, you stop worrying about AS and concentrate on making money for yourself and your band of brothers!

 

I did went to read up more on the Ronin people ie samurais without lords at that time. I dont know why the writer has to hammer another nail into DM's sorry status. He can slash anybody's throat, but remain low on the social ladder in both Joseon and Japan.

 

That said, I feel all the joy of dating love between AS and EC. All the flowers and nonsense Zebra stuff. Dating folks do the silliest things, yep, including eating paper. I am pretty sure AS and EC will have a happy ending. 

 

So my concern is with DM and Hina, these are people with sad life stories, will they have a sad ending too? The horrid villain Wan Ik asking eligible bachelors if they are married. Pfttt.

 

I am not asking for a happy ending for DM but he better not die early on me...

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@blademan love your gif of the 3 guys: the fool, moron and loser 

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5 hours ago, zba72 said:

 

For me, HS is definitely catching up on EC.  I really like the way he is protecting AS, very different.  It is unfair for me to totally not like him because there isn’t much about him except his love for gambling and not having any ambition.  There is just a mystery about his true inner self which I hope we will get to see in the coming episodes.

Actually besides EC and DM, HS is also a victim of his family. During the earlier convo with his grandpa, when his grandpa told him how proud he was about his grandson going overseas to study, HS's face really showed he feel burdened.

 

His is a typical case of being born into a well to do family but cant cope with the expectations and felt helpless against the things that hus dad n grandpa did.

 

Hopefully he finds his calling soon and purpose in life.

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I read this on Weibo, written by a Chinese fan and just wanted to share it here. I know DongMae is not popular on this thread but still, following are some of his strengths:

 

Setting aside his Mafia and violent background, DM is not merely a brute guy, he is bilingual and is equally adept at swords and guns.  He is actually quite intelligent, he can remember things easily (the guys on the train carriage that he noticed missing at the harbour).  He is decisive and a fast thinker as shown at Jemulpo when he realised he has fallen into a trap. He tried to get his guys to move but when he failed to do so, he thought about the telephone. 

 

He has principles in the course of conducting his work and is charismatic at the negotiation table. Once he is insulted as a butcher, he bang the table and refused the job.  He has management and business development skills in security services, money-lending and running the flower entertainment centre. However he is also sensitive and considerate to the women he cares about : dressing Hina's wound, running stationery errand for his mute companion  and letting the comrade of AS go.

 

He seems rather forgiving to his band of subordinates, except for using them as sandbags to vent his frustrations, he dont seems to punish them for fail room searches and breach of command at the Jemulpo harbour. 

 

The most interesting of all, the writer of the above comment said that in the scene when the chamber maid came to exchange information for money, DM was having his meal, but there were no meat dishes. Seems like he is actually a vegan, perhaps he has an issue with eating meat being from a butcher family.

 

So above is the incredible list of his traits.

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The korean petition against the Japanese portrayal seems to be gaining traction at 27000 signatures (soompi just posted an article on it). So anyway, I just hope people just treat DM as a story character, yeah. 

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2 hours ago, chickfactor said:

 

I think a large part of the excitement comes from seeing both EC and DM rediscover their allegiance to Joseon through their love for AS. (She is basically Mother Joseon in this story.) Both men have turned their backs on Joseon, but now they are realizing that Joseon exists beyond their own sad experiences. There is obviously a very "ra ra patriotism" element to it that exceeds any romance in this story, but that's been built into the premise.

 

Yes, I agree with you on this which is why I think this is Kim Eun Suk's most ambitious work so far. Writing about history and patriotism.

 

It really spark the question for the guys, do they just become patriots just because they were born in Joseon? Shouldnt they pledge allegiance to the current country that adopted them? It is a dillemma to be answered.

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46 minutes ago, mistymorning said:

 

In korean, that sounds like DM said he saw that(coat) in Jemulpo. So probably subtitle mistake here.

@miracle23There was a distinct flashback of EC holding a gun when DM was talking about this so I dont think its a subtitle mistake. I watched the original on Netflix and he did said he saw EC in Jemulpo.

 

Yes, I have caved in to signing up for Netflix. Free for the first month, but I will have to pay for the next since the drama will still have 7 weeks to go. Damn, live dramas 

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Yes yes, DM went overboard grabbing the girl's hair. But am I the only one excited that he is finally getting his "date" with AS soon. Lol, that scene better be good!

 

Oh regarding the scene of AS walking on ice, its really a metaphor right? She IS treafing on thin ice being in the RA. Yes I like the fact that she finally was stop in the mind track about who is she protecting Joseon for. There seems to be such huge inequality among the people.

 

Hina is very interesting and really beautiful this week, I think she got the best deal in costumes. Lol. She always have remarkable insight about the 3 men and AS, her role seems to be like a commentator. 

 

Next week's trailer spark my curiosity about who AS is fighting with and also why all of sudden DM is holding Hina, a dream perhaps? The writer cant switch tracks half way about the romantic interest of DM.

 

Lee Wan Ik is indeed pesky. Credits to the actor who also did a stellar performance freaking me out in W (2 worlds). 

 

Am glad the writer didnt drag the bank note plot for the whole series. Now that it is back with the incompetent king, the villain minister is the new plot point for the rest of the story?

 

The ratings is amazing at 12 and reflects the more solid story development this ep vs the last.

 

 

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Does anybody has any idea, how many eps have they filmed before the broadcast and which ep are they filming now? 

 

I seems to see scenes of ep 8 in trailers which meant they have done quite alot for the past one year. I am just hoping the live shoot dont affect the quality of the drama. So many kdramas are wondeful for the first few eps and then spiral downhill. Just keeping my fingers crossed.

 

@rubie thanks for the article, I agree with most of it but I do understand the writer has to take sides and create some solid positioning of the characters.

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The thing to note is this writer's forte is in romance, that is her track record. Even for D.o.ts, she had a co-writer that wrote the war stories. I am happy that since she grown into great success, she was given the go ahead to write this period drama which is really her first foray. Goblin just had abit of flashbacks but Mr Sunshine is her most ambitious work so far, being fully set in period history and she actually picked a really difficult time period to write, very few kdramas dare or have the budget to set themselves in that period.

 

The other recent drama that is set in similar time which I can remember is another of Lee Joongi's work: Gunman in Joseon. Over there, he was also a sad character that went to Japan and came back with a new Japanese identity. Another parallel to Goo Dong Mae. As far as I remember, perhaps, being on a smaller scale, the audience having so much of an issue with Japanese portrayal in that drama. 

 

So anyway my point is, Mr Sunshine's writer strength is in romantic angst, and her effort to expand into bigger dimension of a tumultuous time should be commended.

 

Most of all, just take her story with a pinch of salt.

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Actually I just want to chime in and say although I have never been a fan of Kim Eun Seok's writing, she has impressed me this time with the plot of 3 guys going for one girl. And what better idea than to give them all 3 different passports? 

 

Certainly it is Not set in the time period that is the best of human kind history but I dont think the writer has gone overboard. The freaky psycho Japanese soldier and the very presence of Musin society depicted the cruelty of Japan at that time. I woukd think she romanticed the Americans even more, with the all so nice American legation a.k.a Mr nice guy Kyle.

 

I would like to see more of HS coming into significance into the plot because so far he seems to be more like a frosting on the cake which is a good to have but not highly essential.

 

Another thing about this writer is that she likes to give the character's cryptic dialogue which leads to a need for discussion among fans.

 

I think overall the drama is doing a good job keeping audience interested and I think that is reflective of the writer's strength in maintaining various mysteries to be unravel ep by ep.