☆ 2 P M ★ Official Thread ☆ in k-pop Posted February 16, 2010 i think u need to calm down , b4 anything , each person is entitled to their own opinion , if yeni doesnt feel or see the things that u do , it is not her fault , who said if this is a 2pm's thread then u can only love everything that 2pm do ??? there r things called constructive critism , u take it or leave it , we dont owe to the boys to love every performance they do fans doesnt always have to see everything that idols do as right , but fans r the ones sticking there even through the wrongs cuz they understand n r willing to give idols room to improve , it doesnt mean that if we dont like one of their perf then we become antis n why the spotlight last year was on Jay ?? bcuz he ripped his shirt ?? well Taec ripped too ,i think it's time to face the truth here , Jay is the one that has the best stage presence in the group , whether u love him or not , it is a fact that u cant deny , if the others has the same thing that Jay has , i dont see any problem why cant the spotlight be on them , if they've got the skill , there r always chances to show it , problem is they have or not i dont want to argue so if u've got problems wif me , feel free to pm @edit : n about Taec getting all the hate , u gotta know hate comes wif fame , n honestly i dont see anyone in the group besides taec getting the hate , so why ?? if there's no fire how can there be smoke , if Taec wasnt the one who tick fans off esp during this sensitive time , if he would just stay quite n lay low , would he get all that kind of hate ?? You're right. Hate comes with fame. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But what's more depressing is that all this HATE is evoked amongst HOTTEST themselves. For those who compared it to the Jae incident...that really got me thinking. In Jae's case, it was those ANTIs and NETIZENs who were trying to bring him down , who bashed on him. In this case, it's even SADDER because it's HOTTESTS themselves, FANS OF 2PM...who are bashing on another member of 2PM. I really had to point out the fact that you actually claimed that Taec 'ticked fans off'? I REALLY doubt he did anything to PURPOSELY richard simmons fans off. It's just that everyone's not used to what he's doing...I agree. As a huge TAEC fan myself, I'm not used to Taec's performance with all the shirt stripped and all...I miss the dorky fashion terrorist Taec too. But I find it extremely funny how you're claiming that Jay is the only one with the 'best stage presence'. Technically, aren't you just putting down everyone ELSE in 2PM? I just find your comment extremely contradicting, and just really unfair to Taec. As 2PM fans, shouldn't we learn to like and appreciative of each and everyone of the members? All 7 of them. Sure, maybe everyone will have their favourites, but don't start bashing on one member. Because as Wooyoung said, 2PM is not 7 members, they are ONE. Clearly, bashing on one means you're bashing on the whole of 2PM. And also, at this time of need, when 2PM is still missing Jae, shouldn't all HOTTEST unite and hope that 2PM will be a whole again? And not bash on other members of 2PM? To keep the peace on this forum, I suggest we make our stance but practise tolerance for those whose views do differ from your own. Just as some of you are feeling overly emotional about criticisms to 2PM's latest activities, outbursts, imaging and perceptions and want to move on from the 7 member 2PM and might also find the rants about bringing Jay back as old, please also respect that there's many of us that still feels deeply attached to 7=1 concept and could miscontrue the moving on by some fans to be an utmost betrayal as well.Its a forum. Its a discussion about 2PM. Good and bad, we should learn to be tolerant. Let's not curtail the opinions of others by calling them anti-fans, thats not cool at all. Hypocrisy can be based on many definitions, its just a matter of an opinion and the angle which you are seeing things from. I totally agree. Everyone has their own stance...but I feel that many people are going overboard with their stance. With all the criticism directed towards Taec recently...and knowing that Taec is a computer lurker...we never know. Maybe he's reading all these comments right now. How would he feel? He's just doing his job as a performer. Yes, maybe a bit different from his image before, but does he deserve all this criticism? Has he done anything to offend Jae? No. So seriously, can't we all just get along and be supportive of 2PM at this time? It's so sad to come into the 2PM thread...hoping to read news and see new cute pictures of 2PM and yet these discussions are all over the place, people bashing here and there.