miaka fy

June 30, 2010

Parks Story of a Man co-star Park Shi-yeon (currently acting in Coffee House) reportedly received a huge shock from the news and is in very bad condition. She is so distraught that theres concern she wont be able to continue filming.

Park Shi-yeon spoke with Park on the phone yesterday, but thought he sounded normal.

http://www.dramabeans.com/2010/06/park-yong-ha-discovered-dead-at-home/

source

omg o.o

I'm sad for her ...it's a shock also for Jaejoong from DBSK also...

My condoleance!! rest in peace Park Yong Ha

June 30, 2010

@ BrWriter

I do already some :hug: please go read. I will post more, after i sleep a bit ^^. I think i drink too much soju..so i got headache. But don't worry, i'm stay in the ship for not to make shaking. I do read you was give up for EY/JS couple ...I also forgot to send you a pm because i didn't see you in soompi :hug: STAY STRONG !! and keep eyes for SY/JS with me!

We are here SY/JS shipper...i post the hiatus is DONE so we can post and analyse again :hug:

Kravi, marinai , htly6f ...some shippers did give a all a excellent theorie and analyse ^^ please read my dear

i think i do drink too much a soju...feel tired ...

SOOYEON HWAITING!

OFF TOPIC: PS: SAD NEW EVERYONE, the serie PSY act before ''A MAN STORY'S' the actor Park Yong Ha die...suicide it's seem but some said is murder. He was suppose to act with Yoon Eun Hye soon.... R.I.P.

PLEASE go post in PARK YONG HA tread for condoleance...

June 30, 2010

I'm just read in Soompi page and ....

sad, that really sad, so young...

Rest in Peace Park Yong Ha

Send to you my condoleance to his family [Mother and Father]

R.I.P

June 29, 2010

Choufy

Of all the worthy men who have nothing they envy in this world, he starts having doubts about his repetitive lifestyle

Happy about my analyse make you start to figure few things ^^

That i do thinking before, maybe is was like a manhwa because SY was a narrator. But when i keep watching episode by episode, i do see he seem boring in his life. Also i could be wrong in my analyse.

The important word '' he start having doubts''. SY could imagine like a prince or something from her imagination like a manhwa. But if isn't not, she[seung Yeon] write JS, EY and HER story? That mean she know JS, his thinking and everything in connection with him...

If the episode 12 is like .....''CUT, OK IS GOOD'' another film ? That mean episode 1-11 will be a story and SY know all personage from her story because she is one a lead. She would know JS personaly and everyone else.

good analyse yourself, because for me ''repetitive lifestyle'' sound for me really...boring. With all his ineterview and train de vie like that...how can anyone feel it? If you work in ''chaine de travail'' you will be tired to do a same thing everyday.. So that why i do have impression JS seem just want to quit this monotone life...

Like he do in episode 10, ..run away from all problem and go somewhere.

BUT i can't hate JS, why? because i do think this action is for protect the two lady from him. He seem imagine like himself is a curse so he MUST stop everyone to have a relation with him. Personaly for me, EY and JW make him thinking back in his past a lot more. Now, one my speculation is seem in a good line. JS past DO STOP HIM from EY. Again, i dunno if EY did do something, because he do have ...resentful expression and thinking to her. Can they over it? I don't know my dear...

Right now, the two lady is K.O like a ship we are in each other

But i do see a line for SY/JS line write in the horizon... Seem my impression...do you think something like that?

Anything can turn, but the smile or his eye expression when he do watch SY when he was in the bed and she take care of him in episode 10...seem like a red string between them already ...

You know '' red string'' chinese thinking

Everyone would have our soulmate from Chinese diety who choose two person, put the red string and they are the choose one to become a couple.

Again this is only a speculation dear ...from body language, we need the real translation from a sub to understand it.

Miaka-chan

SOOYEON HWAITING!

OFF TOPIC: PS: SAD NEW EVERYONE, the serie PSY act before ''A MAN STORY'S' the actor Park Yong Ha die...suicide it's seem but some said is murder. He was suppose to act with Yoon Eun Hye soon.... R.I.P.

June 29, 2010

Ok i finally finish the episode 10 to watch

I would said i see more more more and EXTREMELY more the begining a relation for SY and JS together ....

Now, it's seem finally my analyse and theories about the MV start to come in the plot...

Everyone who keep said that ''PAGE ONE'' song was play only in EY/JS scene ...it's change now

The ''Page ONE'' song mv where we see SY act in the mv, and we see that she find the picture with EY/JS together seem start in this episode 10.

The song EY MV 'I'll will SMILE'' is play when EY give the break contract to JS....

The second song from SY mv I Want to Know Goodbye ...finally is play for SY part also...

Page one song is also play for SY scene ...

After i finish episode 10, it's seem for me SY part or scene or action is start to enter in JS heart without he know about it, he do react with....

Simple action from her, smile or talk seem enter in his heart slowly and slowly...

JS be cruel that everyone said right? But i don't think he cruel to SY and EY...

I'm SY/JS shippers and i do find his action is .....normal..

JS do have a sad past and seem this past hunt him a lot and right now we can see this part make him sick and alone...

He just want protect himself to be hurt, also protect the lady EY and SY to not be hurt with him. He scare about if something like a relation begin in his life..it's will become like before in his past life...

Another thing

I do think something like why did refuse to EY is because he is '''''''''gay''''''''?

Or also i do think that EY and JS have a sibling blood ...like someone mentionned it here ...something like Kimura Takuya serie [OMG THIS SERIE was like so....tears!!! o.o FORBIDDEN LOVE or ANGEL SANCTUARY ...incest love? ]

Did everyone see the begining a smile when SY said something to him in episode 9 ..when she came in his room and he seem surprise ^=^

Also...episode 10 is really like a flower relation or future relation i can see ...for SY/JS couple

She do said something and he seem to smile and said something and sleep..

The part JS call SY about why her grandma is here ...and SY did play like the telephone isn't work....

OMG was cute ^^

the end of episode 10 ...

we can see in order

SY cry, JS seem determinated and EY seem be lost and sad, about to cry ...

2 more episodes and we will know something more...special....

Do someone know how many episode will be COFFEE HOUSE?

Also, did everyone see the scene when JS go take his prize, ...he seem resign to it and go take the prize....

Why do i have impression like he DOESN'T WANT anyone know him, well the public...he seem hiding himself ...tortue carapace?

Something about what the grandma said also is strange ...do he have any family to take care of him? He seem really alone, only his sister in america.....

So strange....

well FINALLY WE SEE FINALLY SY/JS have grow a bit ^______________^

Not a love yet ^^, but understanding each other is more important than LOVE ^^

Bonzai bonzai!!! until now i never shaking my shipping ^^ SY/JS. I will shipping this couple until end...

In the begining the serie, we SY/JS didn't seem have a hope but i was NEVER shaking my ship...i'm still have a CONVICTION for my couple!

VIVE SOOYEON!!! JSSY!!!

now time to wait the translation so i can defend my ship

ok choufy i will reply you after

SEUNG YEON & JIN SOO HWAITING!!!

June 29, 2010

hm.. first at all i need to download the episode 10 [give me 5-7 minutes to finish to download the episode] because i just coming back from BBQ Korean resto [miam!!!] with friends

Second, after read some post ...wow ^^ i'm happy he fired SY

I don't know how he fired ..but seem really rude after i read some post here....

BUT I LOVE SY/JS couple so i don't worry about it....

I will post more later ...i feel a bit tired after drink soju...

@ Choufy: Je vais te répondre d'ici qq heure le temps que je relis qq posts dans le topic ^^ à plus tard!!

@ Kravi: Yes my dear ...it's seem going in the same line i do speculate ^^ STAY STRONG !! Also i will send to you my singing version ''PAGE ONE'' in pm ^^ and after i will redo my singing and post here :hug:

SEUNG YEON & JIN SOO HWAITING !!! LOVE LOVE

June 29, 2010

Miaka FY

It was interesting to see the whole situation from JS/SY shipper's point of view ^^

But I have one question: why do you assume that JS is leading a boring life now? o___O From what proves do you assume that his lifestyle makes him so bored that he wants to run away from its boredom? Where have you seen his depressed boring lifestyle nowadays?

Maybe you meant the moment of his writing crisis when he couldn't write a word? But it's not called being boring, it's more like a writer in crisis out of muse and ideas for writing ^^

Or maybe you meant the moment in episode 9 when he called SY and told her he's bored? But it's obvious that this "bored" was just a substitute termin he used to describe his despare and confusion, people don't usually call this state: when you are agonising lika a madman worrying about a lot of things, thinking about a lot of painful moments - boredom:)))))

This adjective: boring makes me really puzzled cause through this drama we haven't seen JS being bored with his lifestyle and unsatisfyed with it because of boredom so now I'm really curious what moments of boring life did you mean? You especially made an accent on word boring: boring life, borinf lifestyle, boring love so I'm really confused now T__T Would you please answer cause I'm just too curious ^^

Depressed? maybe more similar action or scene...

I do take this idea from the first episode, from Haru2subs, when we play episode 1

It's said something like JS start to doubts about his repetitive lifestyle...

I know everyone who watch Coffee House only watch episode after episode. But they completely forgot about the begining serie. I'm sure PD going use some idea from the first episode ...

Boring, i can explain why i said that...

Imagine you do write every days and have a lot rendez-vous ...le train train quotidien..in french

I think why JS run away everytime from EY when she do force him to do something is also he seem don't want to do this anymore....

Boring, don't care anymore, dying....maybe also why he disapear from EY sometime before...

When you keep to do a same thing everyday, everynight...you start to have a doubts in you life...

Asking yourself why you do this, why you are here, eveyday is a samething .....

It's just my analyse ..maybe completely wrong also

When SY said JS have everything but start to have doubt in his life...i do feel he seem boring with his quotidien...

that why SY make some changement in his quotidien. Repetitive action, scene, place ...it's seem ..NOT sweety his life...how can i explain that in english o.o Pas d'excitation à chaque réveil? hm.. No excitation when you awake each day ? Because it's a same ..hm.. routine?

I'm just finish to rewatch episode 9 again the second time...

Now, maybe because i'm SY/JS shipper, but i only feel like a friendship feeling between EY/JS. I don't understand korean, but i do understand a bit. It's seem JS only can give a friendship feeling to EY. Maybe, JS defend himself to have a relationship with anyone. It's because all woman he love seem to die? or he break a heart from his ex-wife. Or, probably, he have a heart problem like congenital heart disease?

It's seem anyone who have this disease die, only operation + medicament can help....

So why we don't thinking like .............a heart transplant?

If the ex-wife LOVE JS so much than she give her own heart to transplant to his?

Or maybe, congenital heart disease will become CONGENITAL LOVE DISEASE !! that is true ...JS still confused hehe

Only speculation again ....but is something that can stop JS to have any other relationship?

Like exemple GRACE MV with Lee Jun Ki

MV1

MV2

MV3

a same story....

For Coffee House, it's seem impossible...i didn't see any cicatrice now on JS ...oh well JS please take out your clothes hehe ..LOL

I'm really confuse what PD want to do about Coffee House...it's really like a sitcom

It's like a serie ''Les feux de l'amour'' or Dynastie, Melrose place, Beverly Hills...etc...

We never know who end with who until the END -.-;;

[Peter and Amanda in Melrose Place ...''sigh'' confusion...]

In episode 9, i still find a good point for SY/JS couple ...

and tomorrow episode will be excellent! I'm also happy JS would fired SY ...^_____^

Question: It's really Hyomin who stylist for EunJung now? That nice transformation for SY ^^

And also, who said SY going have a makeover? I think she will become at end a ''pro'' and will end with JS ...my wish ^^

Another part is strange in episode 9

32:58 - 33:08

His heart...seem have trouble, hyperventilation...stressing ..need pill?

Pills...what suppose to be these pills? sleeping pill or heart pill?

SY seem can't express herself like her father told JS...

She sad about the kiss, but can't demonstrate and keep in herself...

I'm waiting for tomorrow episode, after the fired ...let's see what we have..

Still wait for Haru2subs for episode 7 and 8 to watch it...to understand the serie.

Htly8f and kravi: STAY STRONG ^^

SEUNG YEON & JIN SOO COUPLE HWAITING!!

Love change, man and woman also...

They can love each other and later become a friend...

They can't love each other but start to have feeling

They are friend and become a lovers

-.-; yeah that can be EY and also SY definition

headache ....what do you want to do PD with Coffee House ...and HOW MANY EPISODES WE HAVE FOR THIS SERIE !!! O.O

it's seem impossible for 16 episodes...or maybe you going to cut and said ''few year later'' .....probably

June 28, 2010

Sorry everyone but after the episode 9 i just download it ...I'M STILL A STRONG SY/JS shippers

I can write too much because i didn't use my laptop right now, but i must explain what i want to said before to go to a restaurant...

EPISODE 1

Narrator by SY

- Of all the worthy men who have nothing they envy in this world, he starts having doubts about his repetitive lifestyle

Already in the begining for this serie, this sentence seem important to me in episode 1

JS seem really boring in his life, his repetitive lifestyle.

When he do call SY to said he is boring...isn't completely true? Yes with EY disappear and everything in his lifestyle...

After 9 episodes, i still find JS is more open in his feeling with SY than EY. He seem more confortable with.

Also, i did see the similar scene with when SY accident about EY disapper. Like someone here did said, traumatisme about his ex-wife? JS is worried about SY and EY. But something we must not forgot is .....

JS worried SY but he doesn't have a past with her so be worried to SY is seem a bit strange when we know they only know each other 3 months ....

JS worried EY but we must add with the past he do have with her, and + EY was with JS when his ex-wife have the accident. He be confused and mixed with all stuff from the past and the right now with EY. If we pass a ''strainer'' all the emotion we have from JS, we need to separate in two section ...his emotion. One is for EY and the one is for his ex-wife.

Sprint, meet EY and his expression, red eyes ....everything is for the past and the present mixed all...

that my conclusion for this part.

In the next episode, i must to said for myself we must to have a part with JS ''FIRED'' SY. Because if he doesn't know her existence in his life right now, he will thinking back after his FIRED SY. Also the episode 12, are we going to see something between with SY and JS after the fired ? or something with EY relationship?

SITCOM

If everyone watch some Américain sitcom ^^ or maybe the popular Nonstop

When we have a sitcom, we do thinking something like he like this girl ...but in the end he become a couple with the other girl. PD do want us to mixed with all this ..SY vs EY ..who is the OTP.

JS fired SY

For me, he fired SY because he start to see something about her attachment for him. TOO protect her and himself, he must take her out. JW do said something like WHY all woman who love you do have a same conclusion. JS, i think for myself, he doesn't want SY have this conclusion. He must protect her from him. Strange, after JW said that, why he doesn't want protect EY for the same conclusion. I think he must want protect EY when he disapear from her...because seem everyone who fall in love with him be curse. Also the contract with EY and his contract with SY....

The meaning about the two contract....he do have with the two girls...is important.

One contract is with EY, who is boss and writer....

Second contract is with SY, who is boss and secretary...

the two contract he is the middle...

We can see that JS is annoying by the constant job that EY give to him or force him to do.....

Repetitive lifestyle that make him really boring and that he want to go out.....from

We can see that SY find JS really a strange person but DO everything what he said.....I don't think that is boring for her...but that give a ''punch'' in his regular lifestyle...

Question: AFTER he break the contract with EY, can EY give him something in his lifestyle for not making him boring ...she sure can give her love...but if this love become boring to him and make him again falling in a depression boring lifestyle....

After he break the contract with SY, can he survive with ONLY EY with him. Can she procure him the ''punch'' in his lifestyle or only a repetitive lifestyle he doesn't seem to want continue?

I'm sure, after he fired SY, he will still call her.....with no reason ^________________^

Are we bet for that?

After he fired SY, will his relation with EY will also change and go in other level? Will JS missing SY and will try to appear not far from her...^^

YAY! one my speculation was go in a line is ...SY family

I was keep said SY family will do something or have something to do in this serie....[+the actress grandma from many popular serie drama and the actor father [queen seon duk!!!]]

- The senior will come back

- Why all guys are in love with SY ..that JS doesn't understand at all

- SY can't cry ..that her father said ...she can't demonstrate her feeling but falling sick ...will we have something similar in Coffee House?

- The promise that JS will beg SY to work for him...for sure is after episode 11 or 12 ....

We need a explication from JW about why he break up with EY. Isn't only because he cheat for sure but more mystery in this part.

Also need explication for ex-wife divorce and die...

Explication from JW why JS can't become a couple with EY some mystery inside...

WHY JS is sick, did he take too much pill and want dying because his life is boring or want just go ''die'' become he can't SUPPORT anymore this life ...HIS LIFE.

Why why why -.-;; only question with no REAL ANSWER ..

Don't tell me PD want only give us all the answer i want to know in the last episodes ...

That make us to speculate more and more ....

ok done for now i need to prepare to go restaurant

I'M never change my shipping and will be until the end for Coffee House serie

SEUNG YEON & JIN SOO COUPLE

HWAITING

Please fellow shipper SY/JS to analyse more ^^

will come back late tonight

I just LOVE COFFEE HOUSE !! so much suspence and mystery!!!

June 28, 2010

Like Marinai said that true we didn't know when EY do understand her feeling for JS and also for JS when he do understand his feeling

EY is woman and need to take care of her. But if she really need someone to take care her ..isn't JS person or personality. For me, he seem can't take care of her, if EY really need someone who take care of her. JS can't take care nobody if he doesn't understand HIMSELF first ...

JS is so excentric so i can't see him take care of someone with his hiding personality or dark double personality i mean....

First i do think EY like a strong woman, sure in everything, have a good life and job. Keep watching episode until episode 8, i do find she truly need someone who take care of her, she need like ''help'' from everyone with some sending ''sign'' to everyone...

hm.. also i do think desparate word is also a bit too strong ..but what i can qualifie this ''sensation'' need help?

another word for?

attirer l'attention ? besoin d'affection? besoin de se savoir ici en vie?

sorry ..but i can't explain in english

maybe ....hopeless word? ..nann too strong

cry in despair? ...arg mayb e again too strong word ...

give hope? ...nan again....-.-;;

well something like marinai said ..the expression when her body meaning ...can i said something like that ?

htly6f: :HUG: welcome my dear ^^ yes HIATUS SY/JS is done ^^

BTW: I doubt SY will see the kiss...

I will become happy if she see the kiss =^^= so we have a lot possiblity

BUT if she doesn't see the kiss and like htly6f said ..only see JS walking or maybe see EY and JS walking ...is possible also that give more developpement!

PD really do change the script? ..this preview only make us to have headache.....tylenol -.-;

let's go sleep ^^ and wait the episode 9

June 28, 2010

hmm for real i'm happy to watch more COFFEE HOUSE that why i'm just happy to post the link ^^ LOVE LOVE COFFEE HOUSE finally ..it's time o.o

But i'm not really happy about JS not be with EY right now...i was hoping they become a couple right now...[that will become like my speculation -.-;; oh well LOL ]

So the preview we do read isn't a same like the video? Nan i don't think so....

I still think SY didn't see the kiss...the preview is confusing everyone who waiting the preview ...

About JW become a bad guy...impossible ...^^ come on is JW ...i don't think he will become something like that

and never SY will become also.

I dunno why JS run...is for EY or SY ...[is because EY disappear like the preview try to make us confuse or something completely different from what we do see in the preview ..] PD ...you still make us feel break over again in our analyse ...''sigh''

JS...do like EY? really? do he just keep her like a friend now after his ex-wife dead ...Js do love his ex-wife ? or be sad about something? did he doesn't care his ex-wife and that why she divorce him and why she die?

htly6f :hug: my dear i think maybe you are right about JS ''love'' EY o.o i think let's thinking like you said ......hm... maybe isn't like what i'm thinking ....... ...ok if JS doesn't like EY right now ...just take her like a friend ? Something is wrong again....

Let's watch episode 9 ...and we post later our analyse ^^

-.- we still don't know who is who and how is how ...

THRILL SHOCK SUSPENCE ...that is COFFEE HOUSE ...

COFFEE HOUSE HWAITING!!!!!

@ mskololia1

Thank ^^ we came back now

@ marymoua

Tomorrow ..^^ i forgot to reply to you in viikii ^^

June 28, 2010

The preview ..my korean isn't so good everyone ..i'm not korean o.o [but i do sing in korean o.O]

But well JW seem want revange, SY said something about isn't like that ...again JW said WHY something

-.-;; need call my korean friend to translate it ..but she currently go a club..she close her cellphone -.-;;

June 28, 2010

HIATUS IS FINISH

SY/JS SHIPPERS COME BACK ....

WE ARE HERE YAY!!!

I FIND THE PREVIEW EP 9 in my chinese site in HQ ^^

ENJOY IT !!

http://www.spso8.com/play.php?tit=%E5%92%96%E5%95%A1%E5%B1%8B9&i=0&cmd=0&start=0&ch=v.play.play

WE ATTACK YAY!!!! To all my fellow shippers ^^ we do take time but we are back and asking everyone to coming now ^^

run away to prepare to go airport omg omg ...can i do my work travel well like that O.O

Do you all missing us? ...hehe ..we are here ^^ thank for all pm i do receive ..we still alive everyone ^^

:hugs: everyone yay ..analyses !!

June 19, 2010

It's start to be really scary to be here o.o We SY/JS shippers can't said nothing now ....

ok then if you all really want take over this tread ^^ feel free ....

I got a fews pm from my fellows SY/JS shippers o.o and right now it's really really really hard to post here

i just got few days off from Soompi and was in Viikii and coming back here o.o saw a fews pms in my inbox o.o

I just read few page and wow o.o

Until episode 9 ...i'm coming back!!!

I will also spread the new for us SY/JS shippers cannot post in SOOMPI tread COFFEE HOUSE anymore now o.o

So feel free until the next episode 9 and we come back to post...or maybe some of us will post ...

That feel really sad, that us also have our opinion and analyses and speculation but no one will accept to read or just take us like a gagbage...''sigh''

Don't worry ..SY/JS SHIPPERS will not post until we have more explication and speculation.

For some of EY/JS shippers who tell me it's stupid to have speculation ...thank to be straight

well @ plus ^___^

Miaka-chan

still we are still

SEUNG YEON & JI SOO HWAITING !!!

Thank for some EY/JS shippers who understand us and have a good analyse with us. We love you!! ^^

For others well...we can't be friends in this tread ..that sad...just because we have different opinion, it's really stop us to be friends? o.o

Sad, sad...how become this tread ...sigh...

well WE PROMISE TO COME BACK ^^ until the next episodes

YAY ^^

June 17, 2010

I'm again dead tired today . I will have more time until my vacation. I don't forgot everyone i should reply!! Also THANK A LOTS TO EVERYONE WHO KEEP POSTING ^^. GIGA THANKS TO MY FELLOW SY/JS SHIPPERS TO KEEP STRUGGLES here with ME ^^. THAT

my others fellows who hiding and post to me some warm and funny pm to me !! THANK I LOVE YOU ALL...^^ YES ALSO SHIPPERS FROM EY/JS ^^

to everyone ^^

TO SY/JS shippers !!! LET'S together for some weeks ...

Just want post a quote than make me have a tears ....the person really understand me well and also i thank to this person a lot. From dramabeans

From von ^^

@ Miaka
Hi miaka…

Let me there in the name of SY/JS, lol…i find you fight the battle with your sword and you keep struggle..hahaha keep strong gals! ^^

Just get more interest with all our thoughts to defend our ship. That pretty awesome girl.

I’m on SY/JS ship..

I do admit myself that JS in love with EY. But i consider what part PD brought for SY? firstly I’m scared hoping for JS/SY and stay calm if SY will be professional writer beside her manager means SY end to be professional and ignore love conflict in her. I’m okay with that before, but then someone has fighting for the ship very well (yeah, its you miaka..^^) so I think I will fight with you & all SY/JS shippers…

I can’t make fanfic. I prefer have small analysis and imagine how far the plot could be. For SY/JS of course…

I remember with the first step of SY when she said JS will beg her to stay…I scared to stated that it is the sign for us. But its bring a lot of us, shippers of SY/JS here…in this battle…lol, then let’s analyze..None is right or false in our analysis, because it is depend on our preference. I’ve decide to go with JS/SY ship. I will responsible to my decision as well..so I don’t mind any protest for my taught after…

About JS past, I think the one can resolve all his’ past is himself, no one can…neither EY and SY. But he need someone to pushing him. Just someone give him a bait to reconsider all. Im pretty sure it is SY. If he love EY, he need just fight his’ past for it…Then move forward. However, I guess he have some awareness that it not that so simply. These scars not healed by finishing his’ love interest with EY. Because it is more than love interesting only, not simply love conflit.

I found characteristic build above condition & environment. JS characteristic now was build over his’ past. Whatever it is. If he make his’ EX so sad before, is his’ choice make people around him down..don’t know the exact. But something happen in the past that bring him to be the unique person right now. So mask-full, so perfectionist, so feel-hider…Ouw, I’m just curious about it. So something he must overcome to move forward to be the way JS should be. My explanation here I’m being curious how he’s been wear mask too much in front of people he doesn’t know well. Maybe it is because he scared of himself. if he show he’s the way he is, people getting hurt. i.e when we go to the past and possible that JS make confirmation to his’ EX about he ever been has feeling for EY. He just tries to be honest with her (JS’ EX) but then his’ EX stressful (since she knows that EY also has crush to JS) bring her to death (accident or suicide). Its one thing, JS feels honesty sometimes so hurtful to bear. Maybe there’ll another things to show because he’s feel guilty so much then he decide not to show the originality of him. Stop being himself in front of people he doesn’t’ know very well. So it is important for him to taking care of this. Found the ‘root’ why he become the way JS as now (include he need to reconcile his’ past with EY).

If he has found the ‘core’ of all, he need to consider his’ personality now, whether he comfortable with or just feeling so blue? If he comfy with it, then means he will be JS as we know right now and possible he end with EY. Because his’ past simply just feeling guilty of love interest matter that forbidden to reveal.

But if he doesn’t comfy with it & the second (feels blue) was he in now..then I’m he should be courageous to face his past. It is hurt to overcome his past, his scar. It will make him more hurt than before because while he want to finished all, he just like through it all again. Those hurts, those sadness…and SY will help him. Because I agree he need someone else out of his’ past to pushing him out of his’ shell: release himself, forgive himself…forgive the past…JS will reject her several times of course, but SY with her crush will be the one to cure JS’ scars,with her way…

Who end with who. I’m on SY/JS not because I’d found their relationship funny. Not at all. It is just the surface, tools to build the relationship. You know, when we know some one liking to joke all around very much, when we get closer with them, we realise sometime its because he/she tired with themselves and one day they will be tired to be clown for others. They want to acknowledge as human being, as normal…For SY, deep down inside, SY could be as lonely as EY, has her misery but should she revealed to everyone? for what? I think she doesn’t reveal herself because she know, she can’t be burdened for some else so she need to keep it for her self and give to the world the other side of her. Her loyalty, her happiness, her support, her truthfulness thought. SY, i guess will keep it, her crush, secret for herself. Her silently just make me feels her love deeper than some one else. It s different from EY’s. EY hide because scare of her & JS past. While SY hide because she know very well JS crush on EY. Ok, she keeps it secret since she know she won’t get the return. But knowing her characterrs, instead of her awareness of JS’ love interest, she keep it secret merely because she want some one she loved to be happy. wanting to be loved : yes. but expecting JS’ happiness is her concern so she just try to keep far away her expectation to be loved…The best gift for someone you love was yourself…omG, omG….this kind of love so awesome….

I will also protest if she accept JS’ love while JS still in relationship with EY or part of his’ life on EY..no, don’t do that. It’s so bad to build your relationship on other scar, esp when you’re cheat….If JS (by any chance, PD give this plot) fall in SY, I wish because JS already finished all his’ stuff with EY, know very well what he need…not to runaway but because ready to have new love and to be loved again.

From now we wait what PD bring us who’s SY, EY and JS for real…can’t wait it. PD also has homework regarding the couple. If it is EY/JS, I need more explanation rather than SY/JS. Ok, they are best friend. Ok, theys know each other very well but they revealed their feeling because insecurity of someone else (SY) not the best plot. *PD, give me the acceptable and reasonable justification…(as we need justification for SY/JS pairing). Because, someday when you found difficulties or problems in your relationship, you’ll realise that you’re not make best choice and time can not turn back. You choose because something outside of you pushes you to. Means, you’re not choose but you’ve chosen. I’m afraid this kind of relationship cannot be responsible. If you’re fall in other, you must responsible, aware of your choices, awareness is important not make you be someone’s burden and in the other hand think your pair is burden you so much. Because you already choose so you’ve responsible. This what i mean. It’s i found in 9end1out, which the male lead fall with the female lead because he want to be cared as she care to her boyfriend. He feels he need it either. Someone from his past come to make him more realise and have clean taught who he needed more. And the female lead yet not see it as best base for their relationship to be moved on so she just ignore until she find that he has true feeling for her. He has clean feeling. He already finished all his’ past. She also finished her’s past. Then they move on.

In different scenario we have’ My best friend’ wedding about friend pair Julianne (Julia Robert) & Mike (Dermot Mulroney). Remember ship scene when they sang their song together which make me sad alot for their time passing by symbolised when their boat passing under the bridge. Mike said “ when you love someone you should say it out loud right at the moment you’ve been in love or the moment passes you by”. At that moment after Mike said it, the boat already pass by the bridge. arrgggghh…wanna cry a lot and give hug to Julianne at that time. That song that Jules lent to Mike & Kimmy for wedding gift “ the way you look tonight…huhuhhu, feels so blue. Hehe, back then… After nine years of their friendship, julianne found that she stuck with mike which he will married to Kimmy (Cameron Diaz) but then she know Mike isnt the same person on her taught. He already found some one comforting him. However, he can not lose his bestfriend (julianne) because some one rooting in his heart in different aspects, someone to be loved and someone to stay a friend. He need both…hence, i agree with you Miaka, love sometime about timing….

Then, its JS to make all clean for himself…which one he needed. First move of course, finished his’ past. All.

I will keep my spirit to enjoy CH and fairly accept any pairing. In case JS not pairing with some one, I do respect his’ choice. Not this time maybe, he need more time. Then the message for us not about love conflict, but as discuss..about maturity of charateristic. About facing the past, dare face the future, keep struggle with curcumstances world given…nooo, its too much. Lol. I mean, just about growing, develop, learning…

Lol, I’m become demanding and expecting a lot for the plot now.

I can’t imagine with all of our expectation, if PD can give all to us? Hahahaha…I’m afraid dissapointment incured with all of my expectation. Yhhh, let PD do his homework, any result of it, let believe he do the best..

COFFEE HOUSE : awesome!!!

Thank thank to this person !!! I'm really happy to read a comment like that.

Again mysterious person !!! Arigato!!! in my heart...

WOW so much comments i need to read to read wow ...

SEUNG YEON & JI SOO HWAITING!!!

i will call some friends to helps soon hehe ^^ more SY/JS to defend .....

WE CAN DO IT

Mia-chan ^^

June 16, 2010

I think you're giving SY too much credit here . Personally, I think JW had more to do with it by actually verbally stating the possibility or questioning their motives. Of course, SY's presence probably made EY more uncomfortable that she had realized before, but I think JW is the one to actually make her put her finger on the feeling.

I'm really need to reply this loll so i can sleep

I didn't mean in the present dear I mean in the past ...

If they do love each other ...and JS was after also EY but he saw DW too already the place ...

I do think because JW was a same like SY but in past ...why didn't the two EY and JS didn't awake it before ..? Before JS could meet his ex-wife ...

JW do have a same power like SY ...hm..i mean ..he suppose also awake the feeling between EY and JS but how come isn't work so well vs SY ...

She doesn't know nothing the story at all but for sure she do have some impact to EY ^^ and also JS ...

Did i give SY much credit like that if i explain it ^^;; ...i didn't mean in the present ...yes JW awake EY the feeling in the present, but i do understand that this feeling already have in the past ....Same like JS ...

Sorry dear is only my point de vue ...hehe

btw o.o did you watch 8 avatars serie with Roger ?

I was search so long time the song ..sing by Donavan...You should watch it!!! tell me what do you think after ...^^

and the ending was so beautiful ...sniff

i love this trajic love story like Butterfly Lovers with Peter Ho

or Green Snake and White Snake ...

SEUNG YEON & JI SOO HWAITING!!!

and also mia-chan run away for sleepy ...

Oyasumi nasai minna-san

June 16, 2010

I will reply to everyone later

right now i need to protect my DEAR SY/JS couple ^^ hehe

So for EY/JS shippers who keep ask us why we do love SY/JS couple and do find they should together at the end. And how we can't see EY/JS together ...

- Question, why EY/JS should wait until now to become a couple? If they like each other already, why should the two wait someone else outsider [sY] to awake them and make them understand it?. It's because the wrong timing? or just they don't have a courage to face it. If the 'past' wasn't between EY and JS, why they can't start to become a couple already after JS ex-wife die. From the view i saw from episode 5, JS do have something like JW said ulterior motive to EY. But again JW said is impossible. I think we said too much about the ex-wife accident maybe stop them. But if you think about JW said isn't something more deeper? Something like a blood relationship? No, it's can be because the grandfather must know JS. So why they waiting until SY appear? Why JW wasn't able to make EY and JS panicking. I do have impression right now after i saw the episode 5-6, EY KEEP pushing JS to take a new secretary, because SY is fool and can't work....

I hate to said that but truly ...i do saw a lot part like EY push JS or asking to send SY back and JS said no. Explain me everyone o.o why did she do that.

I do feel like JS was like O.O when EY said that ...

i know i know i'm late about episode 5 but i just watch with Haru2subs so ^^

EPISODE 1

- When JS told EY that SY is his secretary ...did everyone see EY expression and after she took JS hand and take him away O.O [JS is her property ...it's seem like the action] http://www.sendspace.com/file/08rinu [please don't care about the sub ...just because i wasn't paying attention when i cut it -.-; and did encode into mp4...

- When EY meet SY and ask her what she do...SY respond honestly but EY laugh and said continue continue your analyses ...o.o i was like ...hm....ok

EPISODE 3

- When EY said ''will your secretary will come tomorrow or not'' and JS said SY will come...EY face like ''how can you be so sure'' are you positive ..Js said SY will come..because she stupid

Ey said something like how can be a fool be good things....Js said it's a good thing she fool...and work with me ....HIS SMILE WAS SOOO CUTE when he said that

- EY was surprise that SY come ...she seem really take like SY is a running girl after the phone with JS and SY father ...SY didn't see to know that EY laught at her ...take that like what she hear and said simply what she want said ...^^

EPISODE 4

- When JS was running after his telephone and EY was like surprise how much JS worried about SY ...REWATCH again this part ...EY do have some odd expression there

- When SY was going out from the car and JS ask her home phone ...it's because he can't seem contact her ...and check EY expression in the retrovisor ...

EPISODE 5

- When she ask SY about the domino ....and SY do what she told her to do ...JS was angry on SY [it's was EY fault ....]

- When the manager ask EY to help SY about the domino problem ...CHECK her expression ...When DW ask EY if SY going to be scolded ...EY said probably ...EY said ''SHE DESERVED TO BE SCOLDED'' o.o ..I was like ...but it's YOUR fault o.o After DW ask EY ''SY was obedient'' . EY said ''How can she listen to me? She not even my secretary'' O.O i was like OMG ....i'm in fire for SY/JS couple more than before

- EY said ''SY must to cry on her way at home'' = she all a time thing bad to SY ...SNIFF never never SY said something bad to JS about EY ...EY ask JS why he didn't him dismiss her for real. JS ask EY ''why you keep ask me to dismess SY'' EY said '' SY can't help anything JS said '' It's better than nothing ....check EY expression there ...

- Funeral scene, JS seem he want go out ...[30 minutes he said to SY] and he didn't feel good ...

EY keep JS to not go out o.o oh well....

- In the car, JS see his missing watch and remember SY, he want go back, EY said SY would wait for JS. EY said SY will definitly call JS when SY see Js didn't come back

- JS call the the guy who drive the car if he find SY and JS seem really tired. EY bring back about SY be useless, problematic burden o.o

- EY said SY is a damsels in distress ..-.-;; i was like THANK GOD KARMA !!!! EY said SY IS FAKE !! EY seem to said SY research attention from JS O.O ....that SY alway need JS help ...that a kind of girl -.-;;; Something JS said to EY like ''Have you lost out to such a girl before''

KEEP ME IN MIND O.O!!! LIKE EY going FINALLY lose to a kind of girl in the future....

well for now is enought for today ...i'm tired and want sleep

for why WE SY/JS shippers do have impression they are together in the end ...

- The ''promise''. I know i should again bring it but that true ....in episode 2

- When SY said ''Although the start is slow, I can defeat all odds'' [that mean she going be strong and yes the start for her is slow ....]

- She keep worry to other more than her [something explore maybe in future]

- SY interfere with all problem and everything like JS said [something explore more in future]

- The feeling useless she told in episode 2 to JS ...his expression was like oh...[in future]

- SY probably can do everything JS ask...he seem to be amazing about how SY do everything he ask...but she can do it ....probably something we going to explore more in future

- SY didn't cry for her mother die ...but keep inside her...She can't let no one know what she feel...She can't demonstrate it ...that seem another ''promise'' that in future she would let ...her feeling out ...something more ..in the future need explore ...

a lot things .... don't have a time o.o

SY/JS shippers do feel like that ....

Like how can SY can be with JS

we are like ....it's because a lot thing

EY/JS ask us why we don't see EY/JS a couple ....

again because a couple things a write here and more more more i didn't write yet ....

I should cut all video i know but right now i need to repare my sister computer and my friend computer ...i didn't have a time to reply to everyone sorry

but i would reply it

I'm did watch some THREE KINGDOMS episodes today so ^^ i wasn't able to write here more hehe

i will also reply to all my PM soon as possible

SEUNG YEON & JI SOO HWAITING !!!

June 15, 2010

Finally i'm coming home after work, so i can reply some of you ^^

Hope i can reply to everyone today o.o SY/JS HWAITING ^^

I don't think anyone was arguing that it was bad for SY to break up with her ex-boyfriend. From what was shown, it was definitely not a great relationship and a good thing that she broke up with him.

However, it's the way she handled it via a text message that demonstrates her immaturity. Sure, the guy's maturity level is not any better, but stooping down to that level is not exactly a sign of maturity either. I don't personality mind SY being portrayed as being extremely immature in the begining though. I still believe, regardless of the love lines, a large part of the story will be about SY's growth and maturing as a person. Already we can see her being more responsible about her actions.

^^ yes he is a bad guy. You know, i do have a lot friends who break really bad -.-. One from my friend,the guy ask her for a date, she go with him and HE LET HER THE place and go back home. O.O it's take 2 hours to go home so imagine...she didn't have money on her, only her cellphone, it's dark and she was alone in a alone place....

What do you think i do to him ^^ ..Just call him and ask...and be mad for her. The guy didn't specifie about the break up ...he just bring her and let there and GO O.O. Immature or not, he was 29 year old ...yeah immature ..-.- ...Break up on the phone is normal right now o.o ...when we hate each other and can't see each other face ...^^ break up on the phone is the best vs if we go meet him -.- and kill him at the place. [i'm pretty straight person ....scary when i'm angry hehe LOL]

Haha, the 91 version was the first version that i watched when I was really young and I LOVED Kenny Ho...which made my view of Chen Jialuo extremely rosy. It was only later when I grew up that I realized how distateful his character was.

The serial portrayals don't elicit how much of a "jerk" he was in the novel. I distinctly remember in the novel, while he was stuck in the cave with both sisters, he was thinking to himself "which sister do I like better"? Then he self admitted that he was little bit turned off by Huo Qingtong because she was so successful and independent while Xiang Xiang made him feel more like a "man". Major JW moment there! I give him credit for at least admitting that he was being an insecure moron...but doesn't change the fact that he is one.

YES!! the only version i watch and LOVE also Kenny Ho !!! Did you watch the Justice Bao the new one with him ^^...

I LOVE HIM IN BLOOD SWORD omg omg [just feel like i want to rewatch the serie NOW O.O]

http://www.56.com/u96/v_MTI2OTUzMTc.html REMEMBER IT ^___^ ??? omg omg i love the theme song!!! Eric was so young!! Esther also o.o

about Book and Sword serie from Jin Yong, propably because i prefer a hero with a lot hair then a euh what we call it in english ....^^;;

so i wasn't into to rewatch it for a long time ....I need to rewatch it maybe soon o.o

Oh Miaka, you don't need my acceptance on your analogy. It must be tough being a JS-SY shipper in the midst of us JS-EY shippers, but you're a very good sport about it, and I think its so commendable. I'm often in the minority of my ships too (that's why I lurk so much) so I can understand how you feel.

OMG, he what?! When did this happen? I never heard of him taking on a 20 something year old as a wife. That would make the age difference 50 something? Wow.

Well dear o.o it's tough yes to defend and protect your favorite couple ^^ But like you said, it's really fun here to also protect and analyses it ^^. I'm still more into SY/JS couple than before now o.o after watch episode 5-6 o.o

I was like O.O EY was really ......''jealous''......to SY O.O ...i need to cut all video that EY was really seriously be not confortable with SY existence o.O ....Maybe is only SY/JS shippers who see it o.o but well....when i cut all video and put together and upload and let's everyone see ..let's analyses more ^^ . I do feel alone right now in my ship ^^ but i do have my fellow SY/JS shipper who also try to help me to post ^^. I'm really thank to them ^^. Normaly, i'm in the majority group shippers, so i didn't need to write so much ^^. But right now, i'm feel need to defend here with all EY/JS who are majority here ^^. I'm a little cute red first with a lot shark. ^^ Scary...i'm really stubborn girl, so thank to worry about me ^^ :HUG:

BTW YES!!! O.O

This is his second wife

Ty bbs.ce.cn

arg his first wife and third wife link are dead -.-;; i can't post ..

Third wife, he cheating with a young woman ..20 something and i think he still with a young girls ...

scary o.o ....he more 86-87 right now i think ....o.o... I dunno he married again the 4 time...i can't find where i did read it -.-;; but yes he cheating on his third wife and he was felt ashamed of it and done wrong.

Again... tooooo many pages to read, ppl!!! I've been off for a few days and now I'm back! So sad there was no CH today, anyway, moving on...

Miaka Fy, you keep strong in the struggle!!! Doing everything in your might to defend SY and SY/JS!! You and other SY/JS fellas inspire me!! Too bad right now I do not have any insight; i.e.: speculation. I posted a long comment at viikii on how I think SY is the best one for JS and I really do not what else to say. I mean, everybody has overlystated their reasons why SY is the perfect one for JS or how EY is THE ONE for him... There's not much more we could say. All that's left for us to do now is wait but... Ther's still another week to go So I ramble now. I tried watching the world cup but it's just not my thing.

So, here I am... waiting

Yep! I'm still the one struggles the most for SY/JS shippers LOL. Pm me and i will explain you more what i can see so i would let some my idea and help me to post here ^^ my dear fellow. If you don't have idea, rewatch all episode until 6 because i only watch the Haru2subs one...No need to watch in viikii ^^ need to wait the pro who translate it ^^. So i will wait only Haru2subs ^^

After i did watch FINALLY with Haru2subs ...i find more more more more SY/JS couple going end together ...or i'm the ONLY one who see it ^^

i will make a video [not with my laptop -.- but my computer table ...] and let's see later ..

I do sense it or i'm also can be in the wrong like hehe ^_____^

SEUNG YEON & JI SOO HWAITING

[THREE KINGDOMS YAY!! good good ^^ ...i need to continue soon after i reply some here first ^^]

June 15, 2010

hehe ....i will reply to everyone later ^____^

right now ..time for ancient serie hehe

the NEW Three Kingdoms 2010 serie call me ...[YAY i got all episodes!!!]

Miaka-chan coming tomorrow ...hehe Liu Bei ...wait for me.......

Still wait for lakorn serie with Kwan and Tawin ...sniff

SEUNG YEON & JI SOO HWAITING !!!! HEHE

WE STILL HAVE HOPE ^______________^

Gambatte kudasai!!!

June 14, 2010

Pas de soucis et puis écrire dans une langue que tout le monde ne peut pas comprendre, dans un forum anglophone, ça n'est pas très poli ^^

So glad you made that point about EY and the past.

JS's issues with the past is NOT EY lol.

The guilt for his wife's death ? Sure. Other reasons that we still don't know yet ? I bet you.

But EY ? Nope. He did have a crush for her back then but if JS ended up marrying the EX I suppose that's because he loved his EX.

The issue about JS's feelings toward EY is that he never could express them in a daylight. Back then JW swooped in and dated EY before JS would dare to make any move (lol poor thing). And after that JS and EY entered in a WORK relationship which is quite unhealthy for both because it is filled with unspoken attraction and feelings.

I can't tell if they will live happily ever after but at least they should give it a try BUT NOT BEFORE that JS deals with his past issues.

In any case JS has to overcome them. We agree.

EY is not in the Past, she's quite present in JS's everyday life actually lol

But because EY is from the Past, JS (and you apparently lol) counfounds the two of them. So JS keeps running away from her like the way he is avoiding pain. But he keeps coming back too because a part of him feels that there is something good with EY.

That's why I totally agree about the outsider : SY.

She helps them noticing that something is wrong with their crazy routine.

For ex : if SY wasn't able to make JS stay in Seoul after the interview fiasco, he would have been unreachable like always and he would came back eventually with a smile on his face like everything is fine.

But NOT this time around. JS had to stay and face the fact that his attitude hurts EY. And that he wouldn't DIE by sticking around and deal with things. Like EY realizes that it is pretty twistted to not be able to wish a simple happy birthday to a friend.

LOL the key word was GROWING not human being Of source SY is human being since... She was born ? lol

But you still don't develop your thoughts on the matter...

I rewatched the firsts episode lately and from the start there is an ambiguity about SY as a writer when she said " this is how my story starts " which either means :

- this is how her love story with JS starts

- or this is how the story she will write starts

Er. No.

SY broke up with her boyfriend because he cancelled several dates due to his work schedules. And she couldn't stand that anymore. She thought that her ex was using his work as an excuse.

Yes he was quick to recover, that is true lol but he didn't cheat on her (as far as we know).

And no, SY is not innocent when it comes to love.

She dated a guy for 3 years and dumped him by TEXT MESSAGES (how RUDE is that ?). The first thing she noticed about DW is that " too bad he's mute because he is quite good-looking".

And when she starts to be aware of her attraction toward JS, she is not wondering "what is this strange feeling inside my heart ? ". She totally get what's going on with her and try (in a very funny way) to keep a professional attitude.

Oh and she's 25 not in her sweet 16 .

As much as I'm fond in EY's MV I don't read into it that much. Because official MV are promotional tools which are not always significant as a plot device. So I'll pass ^^.

For me Tom & Jerry fits more EY & JS dynamic but anyway lol...

Don Quichotte & Sancho Panza are great sidekicks who might totally be considered as soulmates. And if we go down this road, SY & JS might grow as soulmates too (like Pinky and the Brain ? lol just kidding).

But as human beings, love-couple relationship is also about flesh and bones and desire and so far this aspect is explored between EY & JS while it's one-sided in SY case (and which sounds more like a crush rather than a dying passion of heart lol)

C'est vrai que c'est impolie ^^;; Normalement, je vais écrire en fr seulement quand je crois que la personne parle fr. Alors c'est pour cela que je t'écris maintenant ^^

Mais pour l'analyse, je vais l'écrire en ang. Même si mon ang. est à ''chier'' MDR. Mais je vais faire mon possible ^^ :HUGS:

So well for myself I do think JS past is also EY past. They do know each other along with JW and the ex-wifes.

I also agree that for JS married the ex-wife, he do have some feeling for her. For the divorce after, maybe the ex-wife cheat, or EY enter in scene...well something DID pass in this PAST ....JS and EY do have a same past

We don't know and still don't have a indication for ...NO SIGN ..[make me feel crazy ..are you with me for that ^^]

I do also think that JS married with the ex-wife was a second option for him. HE DO LOVE EY already ..that my interpretation. Also he did find his friend JW was in love with EY so he go with the ex-wife. He just let go this love. Maybe we can figure out why he don't like JW. Because JS was in love with EY, EY go out with JS, JW cheat on EY, JS angry about that and EY saddless make him hate JW ....

that can be .....

About JW and the ex-wife story ...i don't know if that can be true ...but another possibilty...[did read here and take this theorie]

About JS love his ex-wife. JS do love his ex-wife, but also i do think why his past is so heavy is because he feel guilty on something. LOVE and GUILTY ....did something happen with EY and JW in the past. We still don't know.

JS didn't express his feeling EY and also EY can't express. Did something in the past happen between them. Like if someone from EY/JS did express '' the hiding feeling ''in the past and the ex-wife happen to know. They need the pardon from the ex-wife to have a relation. But the ex-wife is die...did she write something in a book or a paper that she pardon them. We don't even know right now. That only my speculation about if EY/JS do have something for the ex-wife dead

If the ex-wife want to run away from JS because she have a lover and JS run after her until she dead = car accident or dead on the street. That also become one a option.

LOVE IS TIMING, GOOD timing bring people become couple. BAD timing bring people be a friend...

Right now because SY presence, the timing for EY/JS is good timing to confront the past.....

But if later JS find that he love another one than EY, EY would let him go.....

I'm agree with you that they SHOULD try EY/JS ^^

But if the past or karma run into them ...i would said ..they already trying but isn't work so that why they should be friend.....

We don't know what going on after ...so let's enjoy Coffee House...

In any case, JS must to overcome it ^^ yes we agree

Also for EY...she need to carry on with all things after JS and overcome also! ^^

If they overcome and doesn't still work between then..so EY/JS shippers should accept the fact...

If they overcome and become a couple ...so we SY/JS shipper should also accept the fact...

EY isn't in his past?

Maybe again my engrish make a lot wrong explication -.- c'est à cause de cela que je devrais l'écrire en fr....sniff

EY was in JS past. I know EY was also in his present ''boring repetitive'' life like he said in episode 1 ...but i mean

EY was inside ''the past'' problem. She was in the dark past when the ex-wife die ....She also in the past when JS present JW to her... Also when EY friend fall for JS ....

i agree that JS run away from the past problem, so that mean run away from EY. And later return to her you said ...

I didn't see a thing like that dear... the all a time running from EY and work ....

i do think is from he ANNOYING and BORING by his repetitive life like in episode 1 said....

Also add with a lot underground inner feeling, we could said that he run away EY...

BUT I dunno know.....let's me thinking a bit ...later

If he do running away because EY, i need to explain what i said also....

I do think when he see EY, he do see his ex-wife compagnie, because EY was the best friend with the ex-wife....

So when he with EY, i hope he didn't see also a GHOST from his ex-wife...

Also, about his sleeping...

When SY said [the bed scene and when SY run after everyone to stop the ''bruit'' ] JS wasn't at home normaly on this hour....

What did he do, i saw him with a photo album, when he find the picture from EY and his wife ..and know about EY feeling for him. He was sit on sofa or a chair ..don't remember well with a album photo....

Ex-wife picture.....

Another speculation, if JS do love his ex-wife and his love for EY was clean but EY feeling reawake the feeling he do have for her... He confuse right now about what feeling he suppose to have for EY.....

I do think also JS will come back later if he was in Seoul ...but that isn't a same right now...EY feeling is there so he seem want run away again....2 year .. can SY go with him hehe ...or she will also run away from her feeling ...Japan...

- this is how her love story with JS starts

- or this is how the story she will write starts

Oh! well...

Hm... I do think that can become possible in each way....

If that is a love story that SY write her own story with JS, so she most also explain later how JS overcome and become a couple with EY but he will understand that someone else waiting also for him...

If SY write a book, with her personal experience, that also can true. If JS and EY and SY and JW are all a fictions ...never existing but .... ''the narrator'' write the story...and until episode 12 ...when this narrator search for more idea ...return in a reality and start another Coffee House o.o that could also become true

Me

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! ! That my head ...it's turn turn turn around .....right now with all possibility we have o.O

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About the ex-boyfriend ...i do find him like a jerk ^^;;...SY give him a money and she let him do everything ...

Yes we don't have a prove...about the cheat ^^. So that why i said it's my speculation ...

SY did break with him because his time work and don't have a time for her... But also you read in interline ...like he isn't a good guy ...if he keep do that and cancel everything a date or meeting. We don't know if his ''work'' was really a work ...maybe is also a girl...

that only a speculation dear ^^

When i mean innocence, is when become adult we do have intuition and be more intelligent in the society ...

Be 3 year in couple, SY isn't innocence in couple yes ^^

I do have a friend who break up on phone O.O ^^;; be rude yeah but in a same time is the other person fault -.-;;

She 25 year old ^^ i'm happy you didn't said she 2 year ^^

not like 16 year old ...yes she isn't hehe ...but for her personality ..yes ..a young woman ^^

I could said in how she act toward JS, is like all a a girl 12-18 year old act in love ^^

Shy, when he nearby, when he watch her, become red ...

I do understand that she have a feeling...something like she can't go far from JS...

For to be understand her OWN feeling for love...i still don't think he pandora box is openly completely yet ....

JS said to EY already, SY is silly girl, a fool ...with his big smile ^^

JS said also she missing intuition ...SY do missing INTUITION [YAY Tsunayoshi Sawada Intuition from Hitman Reborn !!! ^^]

OST song is seem to be important in all serie ...

I do take more important in song ^^

So let's don't care about it ...i will song for you a SY and EY song ^^

Tom & Jerry, Don Quichotte & Sancho Panza hehe ...well I will analyse this more later ^^

I do like what you write about SY/JS could become also a soulmate ...in a same time EY/JS also could...

But i think we put too much important in the word ''soulmate'' Just after PD said EY/JS could become a soulmate, everyone said immediatly that is EY/JS is a soulmate.. JS actor did said he doesn't know how is going in future for Coffee House so everything could be possible ...^^

I do agree with you about SY isn't a passion yet...but do have a feeling.

EY/JS be have a passion ..pulsion sexual....

Love definition isn't about extraction sexual but understand ...well let's see COFFEE HOUSE ^^

i dunno how scientifique analyse but

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love

^^

J'suis complètement externuée là ...o.o ....1 HEURE pour l'écrire parce que je faisais d'autre choses. J'suis complèment à sec là MDR

Je vais aller me reposer un peu chère...

@ plus tart !! ^^

Seung Yeon & Ji Soo Hwaiting

June 14, 2010

SY wanted to break up, first. The guy came to the cafe wondering why she wanted to break up. She gave her reasons, and the guy responded back. I still don't see how this can lead to people believing that he cheated on her.

I'm not really following. How does this prove that her ex was cheating on her?

Hm.. he isn't a good guy already if my boyfriend ask me a money and don't give me back the money ..that mean he use me.

When SY family meet the ex-boyfriend on the street and he was flirting with another girl openly isn't normal? He just break with her and already he find another girl few hour later? Also on the street o.o wow

If my ex do something like that after break up with me a same day ...i'm going to kill him right away ...hehe

I didn't prove it that the ex was cheating on her..i just want you know he is already a bad specie guy.... something a girl need to run away ....

SY was good to break up with him. Maybe we should know something more later or maybe not ^^

Also that my speculation so everything can be wrong .....

But i do have a strong feeling that SY did a good job to send the ex-boyfriend away YAY!!!

^^

SEUNG YEON & JI SOO HWAITING

June 14, 2010

This analogy I'm more inclined to agree with. Except I think Ariel Lin did an awesome job of emboding her character in ISWAK, which Eun Jung may be lacking b/c of her acting inexperience. Ariel made the dim-witted, accident prone, love-sick Xiang Qing endearing and likeable. Normally, these types of characters can either come across annoying or disengaging. It took me awhile to connect with SY's character though I found her interesting and likeable.

There is no confirmation in the drama that SY's ex cheated on her during their relationship. SY's family beat SY's ex-BF b/c they were not aware that SY had already broken up with him. And yes, he did move on to another girl fast - which says nothing much about his character, but you can't assume that he two-timed SY just b/c he moved on to another girl quickly after their breakup.

Edit: My 200th post. See what happens when you delurk?

Thank to accept my idea for IWASK ^^

Eun Jung acting isn't a new one, she was a child actress, so she do act appr. in a same time like PSY ....Eun Jung real age is 22 year old i think....

Eun Jung act more in movie than drama ...i think she act Coffee House for her first drama serie if i did read here .

Eun Jung need to do what PD told her to do...we don't know what is PD ask her to do but EunJung said she will do her possible.

She need to have more experience ..i'm agree with you ^^ but i do think she do her best in CH right now ...i can feel her emotion in the characters.

I'm Ariel fan ^^, be in all her fanclub

For sure Ariel act well for Xiao Qing and JOE is so cute !!! My father find her so annoying for Xiao Qing and change complely after LOCH act. Tokyo Juliet wasn't appeal me too much but Love or Bread [because i upload in YT account] i love it ^^ and also is Ariel/Joe couple ...hehe [Happy she back to acting after her operation !!!]

I do think the SY ex-boyfriend did cheat her but she doesn't know. That is a reply from Choufy-chan that i must to reply soon. ^^

When a guy want to break up, he do want to distance himself from you with many excuse. YES ^^ we don't know if that is true or false speculation. But i do have some prove when JS said to SY something like :

JS can imagine if SY give some money to the ex-boyfriend, SY wouldn't go to ask him back...JS should know that SY is a silly [like he said in the drama] and don't understand that the ex-boyfriend use her...and probably he do cheat her ...^^;; [my speculation]

A bit like ''OH my lady'' when the ex-husband divorce the lead girl because ...cheating ...hm..

hehe ..check my post here ..i post over 70 posts in a Coffee House tread ...when i enter here 2 week ago ..i was only have 10 post o.o

Ugh, don't even mention Chen Jialuo. #1 distasteful male protagonist in the JY world. Unfortunately, for me, Huo Qingtong also happens to be another favorite female character of mine. Zhang Wuji cuts it close for me, too. He's a nice guy and all, but he is so "bleh" in the romantic storyline. I think I've stated this on Javabean's site before...but I don't think ZWJ deserved any of those girls in the game of love. He was so...passively accepting. And Wei Xiaobao was meant to be a jerk and a player, so I'll cut him some slack .

I hope Jin Soo doesn't become anything like that. He doesn't strike me as the type, so far, but who knows how the story might go.

I do like well Chen Jialuo from TBATS [the best version 91 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg4P0HeXHKk]. It's a long time i didn't watch this serie ...a new version also o.o So can't be so clear in my head ...isn't with a princess Fragance ?

Zhang Wu ji, love problem ..can't choose who he will end until the end ...

HE do want all for him... the 4 woman hehe

I LOVE Wei XiaoBoa personality LOLL!! but again that true with 7 wifes ..he is a lucky guy!^^

Who do you think he was really love? I do ship for some of them. Playboy, yes but i do understand him like he love all his 7 wifes ...and take care of them ^^

BTW did you hear about the rumor for the PART 4 after LOCH, ROCH, HSDS after Jin Yong die ..

He seem to said that after his dead, the mysterious part 4 will be out o.o

And o.o did you see his YOUNG WIFE o.o trauma ...trauma ...o.o 80 year something and his wife was 20 something o.o

ok back to CH ^^

The two situation are different, though. Kikyo was dead. Even if her corpse came back alive, she was still techinically "dead". So Inuyasha couldn't really be with her anyways. His only choice is to leave her in his heart. And then there's the whole reincarnation stuff that must complicates it further.

JinSoo's situation is different. There's no point of just leaving EY in his heart unless (*knock on wood*) EY actually dies (PLEASE NO!).

And while I did enjoy RYY-LHC's connection, I'm really not a fan of rebound relationships. But as kgrl said, I actually find the RYY-LHC connection more similar to EY-JS. She was able to help him pick himself up from the depth of his misery. Basically tried her best to bring him back to life, all the while not really asking for much in return. And at this point in the story, I don't know if JS is going to fall into misery again to give SY a chance to pick him up. I mean, sure, he's sad about the past...but he's no longer devastated and is pretty much living a normal life.

Kikyo is dead yes and really dead after. I want you see the image only like Kikyo could be EY ....

Like Kikyo was and Alway in Inuyasha heart ...is a same thing i can see for EY with JS

So Kagome is the 'outsider' from the couple ...same like SY was 'outsider' from EY/JS

Inuyasha do need Kagome presence if you watch the anime or manga ..he said clearly ^^ but he can't also take away Kikyo presence in his heart ...

Unless someone die, no it's impossible

Coffee House isn't a ''Drame'' serie but romance add with comedie ..

So probably PD will make everyone happy for his decision !!

Scary, i should run away from Coffee House tread or dramabeans or other connection with Coffee House. It's seem like until June 28 ..it's start to be long for me right now o.o

Because keep reading reading and posting ...the fire is awake more stronger LOL

About LHC and RYY connection, see in your view can be possible to be EY/JS

About my view, rebound relation, can also be view like SY/JS

Let's we have a fun to analyses it ^^

June 14, 2010

Oh I see. Personality-wise though, I like SY isn't as aggressive in love as RYY. Also loved MDWAV lead pairing - Ma is a classic femme fatale character that I usually end up loving. But again, I think SY response to love is very different than these 2 other female characters.

I never said that SY was like RYY or MSL ^.^

I write like SY/JS do have a slow relation like LHC/RYY ...

Also, I LOVE strong woman normaly like MSL or my dear Huang Rong ...but right now

in Coffee House..i still fall for SY characters ..loll

SY isn't nothing like MSL or RYY for sure...they are extremely from each pole ....

The only thing i can said is ...waiting ...RYY wait for LHC ....SY will wait for JS

^^ my opinion ..that all

Ma Siu Ling/Fong Tin Yau [o.o i thought is Fong Tin Yang ...my memorie play with me...] relation do have a similar vibe like EY/JS ..yes ..

About

SY/JS ...can you said ISWAK couple ..is similar then...Itazura na Kiss ...

One do everything from the other ...a bit similar ..yes ^^

Also be a anime fans ..

i must to said ...InuYasha also ...InuYasha doesn't care by Kagome presence ...only love his love for Kikyo ....

Slowly, Kagome presence is important to him....BUT Kikyo is still in his heart ^^

June 14, 2010

Doubt it--unless JS gets dumped first.

Which brings me to another thought. For all this talk about the possibility of JS & EY getting together only to have JS later realize that he likes SY...what if it was EY who actually dumps him first? Not that I see the possibility being very high, but scary thought (for us EY/JS shippers) nonetheless. This better not turn out like 500 Days of Summer...

But on to the characters themselves, JS is not nearly as easy going as LHC. And RYY reminds me more of EY than does SY.

Nan..LOL

I mean the slow relationship with LHC and RYY ...it's like SY and JS

LHC was so love with his sword-sister [mei mei] but later he know he can't have her and also he fall in love with RYY...

My speculation is .....EY would let go so ..she will dumb him first o.o

or maybe vice versa ...or can be also all wrong myself ..hehe ...

I do find some similar attitude with MDWAV serie ..about EY/JS or i can't be wrong also ...

They are both strong characters from the vampire and the Ma family slayers vampire ...[just love this couple so much ..from MDWAV]

Hehe

for myself HUANG RONG is my most favorite character from JinYong ...the most clever woman ever YAY!!!

June 14, 2010

Well reply to you later Choufy-chan ^^

Coffee House

Ok...can we compare to InuYasha serie ? or State of Divinity aka Xiao Ao Jiang Hu

Or my thinking is .... My Date with a Vampire with Eric and Joey [ONE my most favorite serie ever in a time..the three parts!]

And also i don't want JS become another 'Zhang WuJi' =.=; or i would let off from all shipping and go ship for COFFEE HOUSE only ...¸[currently talking about that in dramabeans and seriously i hope he not Wuji]

Sorry everyone! But when someone talk about wuxia ...i'm run to it hehe [be wuxia lover categorie]

If LingHu Chong and Ren Yingying relationship is a same like SY/JS couple?

All theories and comments are welcome .....

June 14, 2010

Is me or my speculation and theorie when in a good line o.o

For myself be SY/JS shippers

YAY!!!BONZAI BONZAI!! EY/JS become couple!!! i hope it's true ...^^ SY become sad

so more space for SY/JS couple later ...[that my speculation only so please ! ]

axerine_1: isn't a same like EY mv song mean ?

from my posting before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q5nJnqD8dc

So I’ll Smile

PSY

I have a secret�

It will never be revealed�

Because even I don�t really know�

I�m fine I�m really fine

Even if you leave, I�m fine

From the start you were someone beyond my reach

I�m grateful, it was like a dream

The love that you gave me

I was not worthy and could not hold on

Because you gave me the love

I was really hurting, when I was really hurting

Even when I felt like dying

Because I loved you, and I was loved

I�ll try to live no matter what

Even if I cover my mouth and hold my breath

I can�t help the tears that start flowing

But even so, I try to smile

Because if I cry, our love will cry too

I won�t hate you

Why, I�m grateful

Someone I couldn�t despise

Someone who had everything

Someone who wasn�t mine from the beginning

I was really hurting, when I was really hurting

Even when I felt like dying

Because I loved you, and I was loved

I�ll try to live no matter what

Even if I cover my mouth and hold my breath

I can�t help the tears that start flowing

But even so, I try to smile

Because if I cry, our love will cry too

Go, leave me

Fly away from the coop

If I see you fly far away

I can dream too

I�m happy with that

I was really hurting, when I was really hurting

Even when I felt like dying

Because I loved you, and I was loved

I�ll try to live no matter what

Even if I cover my mouth and hold my breath

I can�t help the tears that start flowing

But even so, I try to smile

Because if I cry, our love will cry too

PSY

An old friend of mine who�s really picky about his coffee

There�s no one who can conform to his ways other than me

Or should I say, there didn�t used to be�

credit to huskydawg from soompi!

And my analyse with…..

(EY have a secret that she can tell to anyone. The secret is seem to be the love she have for JS and she seem to understand herself now about she was in love with JS. EY seem to be ok with her knowing about her feeling so if JS run away from her, she ok with. EY know JS isn’t a easy to catch. JS seem to far for her to be with. EY be happy and grateful about JS feeling for her. It’s like a dream where she can be with JS and she got his feeling. She thank to him about that. EY know she wasn’t a valuable person, important person . I don’t know if she mean she wasn’t a respected person so that why she can keep JS love to her. Or it’s because, she thinking she wasn’t someone important but JS give to her his love. JS do love EY but this love is heavy to her to support. She love him and also JS love her but the things in the past keep block the love between them. To heavy to live with…But because she have his love to her, she can keep to live even she was in a difficult situation, she have to think she have JS love so she can live. EY will live with JS even her tear flowing and she ”breaking” herself ..she will stay with JS because if JS know about it, her relation with him will break and can’t be together ever. [thinking maybe is really happen in the past with the ex-wife...]. EY try to hide her saddness ever her tear come out. EY will smile to keep the good feeling inside her couple with JS. She was loved by JS and she love him back. It’s seem to be JS love her back..but now he change. EY will not hate JS because she grateful. JS is someone she can’t despise and someone who have everything [mean social ?]. JS wasn’t for her in the begining. She wasn’t able to have him start in the begining. EY is sad about it but she let him go even her tear can’t stop. EY going keep watching him even he is far from her. She going keep the beautiful memories they have together…..

EY have a old friend who is JS who is really a picky person and for coffee also. EY thought she was the only one who understand him the most. Because she know his way and hobby. But she was wrong. because it’s seem someone else start to understand him a same like her …)

EY would let JS go ...isn't a bit too fast ?

it's probably more more mroe later .....like ....ep 11 ....[/color]

SY Mv – PAGE ONE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boYsMxs80RY

Page One SY MV

What am I to do when I think of you again? My heart only yearns for one

What am I to do? Even though I am afraid of love, when I face you I will smile

The person who makes my heart flutters

The hidden feelings in my heart

Seem to have come to light

I love you, please love me

I can’t go on even just one day without you

Even though I am not your first love

I am already very blessed

Can you see my love? Can you hear the beating sound of my heart?

Perhaps from the start, it could be the love for you that had began

The person who make me dream

I want to give all that I have

Can you see my love? Can you hear the beating sound of my heart?

Perhaps from the start, it could be the love for you that had began

I will wait even though it hurts

No matter when, no matter what form

I will be strong

As long I can see you it’s sufficient

Can you see my love? Can you hear the beating sound of my heart?

You are my first love and my last love…please love me

So the analyses is

(I think it’s when SY going take some distance from JS and thinking about him again. She want to see him and also not far from him. SY afraid to tell him her feeling and also she hiding with her smile to him. Like that, he can’t figure out her feeling. JS did make her heartbeat going fast to hurt herself but she need to hide. But her hiding feeling cannot be in the dark and it’s start to coming out slowly and surely. SY want to shout to JS about SHE LOVE HIM and please look at me, i’m here to waiting your love back. SY cannot contain anymore soon her feeling, she need his respond to her. She need him and cannot survive without him. SY know about his feeling for EY. She know EY was his first love so she hiding her feeling to hurt herself. SY want demonstrate her feeling, her love to him. Maybe in the beginning the story, it’s could be a first love in a first sign from SY to JS. JS give her a strenght to go to her dream, to become a person who can work in society. JS was the person who keep her to work for her dream. So that why SY do everything what JS ask her to do. She give to him her everything. When JS ask something to do, she do everythinh he ask. But after see the EY/JS relation begin, she can’t express her feeling so she wait. SY will wait until JS decide himself. It’s hurt, really hurt but she will wait JS back to her. The time cannot stop her, the evenement cannot block her. She will be strong…Strong for the future…Strong for the future of JS and herself. For now, SY feel suffficient to only see him. SY can see JS ..she will be happy for now. JS…can you understand my true feeling, can you understand my heartbeat…who hurt me so much…it’s incontrolable. JS you are my first ‘real” love and also MY LAST LOVE EVER)

That my analyse …^^

BTW ...i was posting before in dramabean the translation song for the second SY SONG ...

I use google translate for this so isn’t a good translate but please cry with me after when watch the MV ….

”I want to know Goodbye” by Hwang Ji Hyeon SNIFFF.......

Falling Tears flowed eyes are real/serious wound

But don’t tell me is goodbye

Elusive to be moving…….

I break into tears, so I have today

I do not know want to know goodbye You want to stay

Would not be sorrow

I promise you that the people do not

How do we break up love

Did you hear that you’d like to see crazy

How did I forget to erase your

I’m in tears every day saltende

Eyes closed for three years and thoroughly wipe the tears

Wipe your heart is yearning

But I think such a thing as a disturbance

The more you forget

See more thinking about or miss

How do we break up love

Did you hear that you’d like to see crazy

How did I forget to erase your

I’m in tears every day saltende

I’m sorry I can not forget you

I still love you and want only

Even if I could meet anyone else again

I do not like

Don't ask me about analyses ..i didn't yet ...

BUT is so sad that make me cry ....POOR MY DEAR SY snifff

I use google to translate it ...YES have a lot fault ...but what can i do more o.o

just want to cry ....

I don't lose hope for SY/JS couple ...but this song make me cry ..sniff EunJung acting inside was really real

OFF TOPIC:

I'm not fan for T-ara but i do for Davichi [Eun Jung actress who act in COFFEE HOUSE SY act in this new MV]

Davichi – Time, Please Stop [about THE REAL story from Snow White hehe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPsjEg3TZoY

Have a fun to watch and feel scare hehehe......

SEUNG YEON & JI SOO HWAITING

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