[[Drama 2023] Call It Love/Tell Me It`s Love, 사랑이라 말해요]

I think Sung Jun thought he had feelings for Woo Joo as he is used to taking care of her and just used to being around her since a long time. But I think he’s attracted to her sister. He understood the difference only now when they are staying at his house. Woo Joo wouldn’t have developed feelings for him I think even if she hadn’t met the male lead. The introduction of the male lead in Woo Joos life and his proximity to her sister pushed them in different paths that they were meant to take anyway. So Jun is now accepting that he and Woojoo are not meant to be and that his feelings for her were one sided. Also he’s realising in his own way that considering the way he acts around her sister he’s attracted to the sister and maybe his relationship with Woo Joo was platonic to begin with. It’s confusing honestly but that’s what makes it real I think as life can be confusing. 

[[Drama 2023] Crash Course in Romance /One Shot Scandal, 일타스캔들]

With all the indication that the secretary is the serial killer I now think it’s actually a distraction. 

Spoiler

I am now beginning to think it’s the teacher that replaced Choi Chi Yeol! Because through the entire situation he has gained the most. Possibly he was Lee Sun Jae teacher/acquaintance and he is bullying Lee Sun Jae to buy the metal balls for him? 

 

I love the relationship that Hae yi and and the Haeng Sun have! It’s beautiful. it’s funny that I’m so invested in their beautiful rapport that I’m team Haeng Sun and thinking from her point of view and my heart breaks a little every time Hae Yi calls her emo!
 

And yet every time I see CCY and Haeng Sun I start thinking  like Hae Yi and I think from her point of view and how difficult it is for her to admit the truth and yet how much she wants them together. 
 

Also it’s funny when I see Kyung Ho in Hospital playlist and see his kissing scenes with Ik Sun it feel like I’m watching a colleagues or friends love story and yet when I see his kissing scenes here I feel like it’s like my aunt and uncle making out and it feels awkward! The acting of both leads is on point it’s just that I think as a viewer I’m still thinking from HaeYis point of view! 
 

I think everyone has done their role so well and it’s just difficult not to get so deeply involved with the characters! 

 

[[Drama 2022] Sh**ting Stars⛤별똥별]

I think the hairstyle and overall look of KDY in some scenes is good and some not it’s not consistent …. Something is off with the styling… and the tsundere role is too repetitive and can come across as irritating impacting the overall story flow and the main pair chemistry. 
 

I really do feel that the male and female lead are both doing a good job but are some what constrained by the tsundere role for the male lead and overall  story line for the female lead. The issue with the tsundere role is that it’s 2022 and not being emotionally available, putting up a false image (like being rude to the female lead when he is actually still in love with her) and not solving issues that effect you (like the actress divorce who is probably his mom or relative) and not seeking counselling is not cool anymore. It’s a dated and old storyline too.

 

still watching it for the main pair. 
 

on the story - I’m sure due to his hidden issues the stress test is accurate as well. Also, I think he went to Africa  to see if she still cares for him plus i think he put distance between them to try and forget her if she didn’t. 
 

[[Drama 2022] Twenty-Five Twenty-One ​⌛ 스물다섯 스물하나]

5 minutes ago, frozentundra said:

 

 

I will say that the acting was beautiful and heartfelt. I'll definitely pick up another drama with any of these actors in it.

Absolutely agree. It’s only onwards and upwards for Kim Tae Ri and Nam joo Hyuk from here ♥️

[[Drama 2022] Twenty-Five Twenty-One ​⌛ 스물다섯 스물하나]

I love happy endings. But that’s not my bone of contention with the writers.

 

Young Heedo and even mom Heedo in 2009 played by Kim Taeri is full of life it’s not about youth it’s not about looks she has conviction and confidence. Like an athlete of her stature and her accomplishments should. The 41 year Heedo (I’m not blaming the actress at all since it’s the directors/PDs responsibility to make her act in line with the character) if I were to describe in one word looks *defeated*. Defeated not by a game but by life. She seems to be still holding on to snippets of the past through the name of her workshop 2521 and she seems to not have had closure. Everyone may have a first love but how many people would drive to a tunnel so many years later to reminiscence. It’s another story if you’re passing by. Younger Heedo even when she broke up with Yi Jin had conviction that she doesn’t want to live a life waiting. But as the 41 year old she still seems to be living a husband less life again waiting. Athletes look at wins and losses very closely they have discipline and back bones of steel. Then how did she lose the plot of her own life? It’s not really possible to reconcile the Hee Do shown in 2009 even to the Hee Do in 2021. Im not even trying to reconcile with the bright eyed innocent teenager Heedo. Also slice of life dramas always focus on hope but 41 year old Heedo seems resigned to her fate. As an athlete you are accustomed to fighting against all odds. As a gold medalist with so much mental strength and will power why has she resigned to her fate now? Moreover first love is the past for most, people move on except the lucky ones who married them and stayed married. But Heedo hasn’t moved on. She’s still very much attached yet denying her past( not remembering her summer beach trip and still running to the tunnel in the last scene).it’s the character development that got to me. it’s a downhill curve and it doesn’t make sense. 
 

also Min Chae in the last episode is very detached to the last diary she doesn’t seem curious. Also through the series why isn’t she curious or attached or disturbed by the fact that the story she is reading is not her father? As today’s teens are gutsy and inquisitive and vocal why didn’t she ask her mother if she was happy then or is she happy now. How can you be so engrossed in reading a diary that you can put aside the fact that you are reading about your own mom with someone else. Especially since your dad is still out and you would have seen your mom lonely. 
 

lastly with all the nationality issues YurIm is back in  Korea and with her bf but The main couple couldn’t survive LDR? And why couldn’t he marry her and take her with him to Us and they shuttle between countries. He has a new job that paid she’s a world class athlete. It’s the 2000’s for gods sake not 80’s. Communication and travel had decently developed at this point. And two people who supported each other’s professional growth shaped each other’s personality left each other for their careers over each other. It doesn’t tie out. The character developments, the love story and the message of the series that some relationships like spring and cherry blossoms are beautiful but ephemeral they are three separate parallel lines that didn’t intersect to make sense. 

 

 

 

 

[[Drama 2022] Twenty-Five Twenty-One ​⌛ 스물다섯 스물하나]

If the story was that Min Chae was actually given the diary to read and if we were doing positive ending theories 25-21 would make a brilliant and beautiful title if it was an answer to a daughters question to her parents that when did they fall in love? ♥️

 

But the current timeline is so vague that there are so manyyyyy theories. Glad people are bending more towards a happy ending now and I really hope it is. 

[[Drama 2022] Twenty-Five Twenty-One ​⌛ 스물다섯 스물하나]

 

 

for me the middle aged FL saying that she doesnt remember the beach day is not about denying the transience of life. It’s more about the fact that these years are formative years especially for Na Heedo as an athlete. They are supposed to have a profound effect on her, the way  she thinks, the way she behaves at a later stage in life. Moving on from a phase of life is one thing but completely denying something happened is strange especially since she did not go on trips often. Moments are fleeting is true but memories exist and they can crop of in our mind from time to time is also true. When someone mentions something that happened especially from a time which really influenced you - key point in your fencing career, first confession of your life, first few relationships and friendships outside of your family - these things have a profound impact. There should be a flicker of recognition or some reaction other than absolute denial usually. 

I remember reading the quote ‘ who are we but a sum total of our memories?’ . So although fleeting and although the meaning of memories changes over time. They do exist. 
 

Plus I can’t reconcile the two Na Heedos. 
We are who we are cause everything that happened in our life - every act of destiny and every choice combined made us so. Whether we change or remain the same each character has a trajectory. But the two Na Heedos seem like a different person. 

I love the story and the main leads but so far I don’t understand the arc of the Middle Aged Heedo - either it’s not written well or there is too much left to divulge still. 

 

 

[[Drama 2022] Twenty-Five Twenty-One ​⌛ 스물다섯 스물하나]

I think with the number of theories floating around the only thing that can be an actual twist is a happy ending. Cause the worst endings have all been predicted lol 

[[Drama 2022] Twenty-Five Twenty-One ​⌛ 스물다섯 스물하나]

Adult HD doesn’t seem like young HD at all. There is something amiss. How can she completely forget the trip especially since she only took one trip? Very strange.

 

forgetting stuff from high school days is one thing but not remembering an entire trip when you didn’t otherwise go for one especially with someone who had just  confessed to you doesn’t make sense. 

[[Drama 2022] Forecasting Love and Weather ✸ 기상청 사람들: 사내연애 잔혹사 편]

7 hours ago, realistic2280a said:

Haha.. they were talking about safe distance from one another... and a hedgehog was mentioned  between Hakyung and Forecaster Um... hence i was curious about porcupine  animals with spikes.. how do they mate with each other with those spikes

 

Unless those translation were wrong.. then.. oppsss... 

I remembered the pet that Shin Min Ha had in Hometown Cha Cha Cha. In that they had mentioned that one the animal knows/trusts you their spikes don’t react to your touch and don’t hurt you anymore.

 

not sure though. Anyone had them as pets? 

[[Drama 2022] Forecasting Love and Weather ✸ 기상청 사람들: 사내연애 잔혹사 편]

3 hours ago, marrez1 said:

WHAT TWIST???

Putting it down in spoiler alert in case people haven’t watched the episode yet

Spoiler

Song Kangs character was called by someone at the beginning of the episode and he was very upset. Later he went to meet a lady at a shady motel. 

 

@agenth after last episode today’s episode was  such a dampner I guess the series will be as much of a roller coaster ride as global warming weather! 

@Latte_Anyday I think it’s an ice shaken espresso. But i maybe wrong! any coffee snobs on the group please advise! 
 

also when they zoomed on to the nerds coffee and zoomed out of the sisters coffee I think it’s most likely a love line.

 

I agree with @agenththat Si Woos character is being black mailed and the ex gf will open that secret to get back at him for issues in her marriage though she lied in the first place. but it’s a very vague and weird twist none the less. I think the writers will make a concious effort to walk away from Park Jae Won. 

 

 

 

[[Drama 2022] Forecasting Love and Weather ✸ 기상청 사람들: 사내연애 잔혹사 편]

What’s this twist with Song Kang’s character. I’m so confused!! 

[[Drama 2022] Forecasting Love and Weather ✸ 기상청 사람들: 사내연애 잔혹사 편]

@itsmeash I thought it’s the female leads father but that would be too obvious so not sure! 
 

also I have a question about the iPod/music player! He asked her are you selling this too and later he is hearing a similar device at bed time… did she share her iPod and therefore playlist with him? ♥️
 

also I like the subtle millennial vs genZ clash. He teaching her to sell stuff online. Lol 

[[Drama 2022] Forecasting Love and Weather ✸ 기상청 사람들: 사내연애 잔혹사 편]

They look so so good together especially sleeping on that couch! In the scene when PMY was working on the report with the bag as a table and she was sitting on the floor I noticed that the couch behind her was quite big. And I wondered if they would show them together before the usual episode 8 but I dismissed it until being surprised a few mins later!  
 

I just hope the series doesn’t get too angsty. There are a lot of loose ends:

- mentioning of Female leads father but him not being around and something about the female leads cautiousness being related to the father

- the male leads remaining family is not mentioned only grandfather

- there is a suicide trigger warning on Netflix for this series.

- the second female lead seems to

be turning to a villain.

- male lead being overweight - are they gonna show his back story and some mental Angst related to that part of his life. though I seriously doubt they will expolore this storyline. 
 

anyway the series has me hooked and am happy for a new KDrama that is holding my attention. 

[[Drama 2021 - 2022] Our Beloved Summer ⏯️ 그 해 우리는]

Lovely story beautifully executed from beginning to the end. I think this and Run On have created a genre of their own. It not slice of life, nor pure play rom com. They just make you think, reflect and remind you to love life. 

[[Drama 2021 - 2022] Our Beloved Summer ⏯️ 그 해 우리는]

@minglanfan2 wow really deep and interesting insights! Thank you! 

[[Drama 2021 - 2022] Our Beloved Summer ⏯️ 그 해 우리는]

@minglanfan2 thanks for your perspective. After today’s episode I felt that  life’s unfair to Ung since he has nobody to fall back on but has to be there for everyone else. I was honestly so sad for his character that I couldn’t see beyond that. 
 

but now that I have read what you have said I feel that Ung stepping out in the world and revealing his identity and participating in his new documentary is like the Jjongjong stepping out in a pram. His manager and friend EunHo was always steering him around and protecting him while he was working, making appearances or giving interviews. When he filmed the documentary also it was Ji Ung who was the PD and he was still in a protected and safe and familiar environment. They even disappeared for a day when Chae ran was furious at them for their unprofessionalism and wasting their time. But Ji Ung said nothing. Cause In he documentary scenario  even though Ji Ung was processing his own one sided feelings, Ji Ung was Ung’s safety net and did not scold him.

 

I definetely do not think that Ung’s drawings are soul less. The critic criticised them because they are a peek into Ungs world. But him being hidden away in his own bubble world with safety nets his horizon is so limited that at this point his drawings lack depth because he hasn’t explored the world enough to incorporate a wide spectrum of thoughts, ideas and creativity. Exposing himself to the wider world will help him process his feelings and interpret them and reflect his true pure, kind and compassionate soul. This exhibition and his drawings so far were  ungs way of giving people access to his hidden closed off world, a peek into it from his window. The night timing also shows that he wanted to show people his world on his terms. He wanted to retain control of how much of himself he puts out to the world and hence he was holding back his true beautiful self. 

him taking up a course Ina different country is what JjongJong did stepping out normally without a safety net. Nobody could do it for him/her he just has to be brave take a stand and one day do it for himself/herself. Jjongjong did step out and met new people like the two school girls but still came back home. Ung would also step out meet new people and come back to YS. YS will just have to keep her promise and wait for him like she said whenever he comes back she will be there and won’t let him go. She needs to wait for him as he was there for her at this point when he himself is broken. Being there for each other and communicating through it all is their learning and healing journey that makes up these 16 episodes. 

[[Drama 2021 - 2022] Our Beloved Summer ⏯️ 그 해 우리는]

The Nua scene was really good acting. But Nua shaming Ung for being the more mature one and letting go was so extreme. Him implying that Ung can’t protect things precious to him and that he’s a weakling was so mean. It totally broke my heart . But the show I guess wanted to portray that Ung had multiple blows in one day and since he’s so resilient such a harsh statement was required to break him.

 

And honestly it’s true when you feel low in life many things happen concurrently in the most important spheres in the same time frame. Sometimes time and circumstances are super harsh on people and during that phase there’s no respite. But what I’m not able to understand is that Ung was there for YS and he even consoled Ji Ung by having alcohol with him. But what about him there is no one consoling him  

 

Ung is super resilient and a very exceptionally strong person despite his abandonment issues. But even the most resilient people need support. So who’s supporting him? Or is it that with YS back in his life now is what is giving him strength? And this strength with his inherent resilience and a certain calmness he has will sail him through? But I still feel bad he’s still alone again on this particular day despite YS being back in his life. 

[[Drama 2021 - 2022] Our Beloved Summer ⏯️ 그 해 우리는]

At this point I don’t know what to expect from tomorrows episode. Seeing the story flow so far I am totally not expecting a sad ending. However I can’t rule out an open ending and I don’t think the main couple should get a open ending. Here’s hoping it’s a clear cut happy ending.

 

I do think somehow that JiUng and NJ belong together. But if not together, Both the characters deserve a happy ending at least on their own. 

[[Drama 2021 - 2022] Our Beloved Summer ⏯️ 그 해 우리는]

I do like Ji Ung and NJ together. They can sense the loneliness in each other and have some unspoken bond between them. Even as a fresher NJ had noticed Ji Ung. I hope they show them together ♥️

[[Drama 2021 - 2022] Our Beloved Summer ⏯️ 그 해 우리는]

We are down to the last 3 episodes and few crucial confrontations are left :

- about the main couple Why did they break up

- between both the Ung friends and test of their friendship

- between Kim Ji Ung and the assistant. Will she confess and will he move on and give her a chance? 
- between the main couple the I love you confession.
 

Also: 
- Will NJ find someone. I hope so. She’s adorable. 
- also the manager and restaurant owner will they show them together or will it be like an open ending. 

 

[[Drama 2021 - 2022] Our Beloved Summer ⏯️ 그 해 우리는]

The honest conversation between them and the epilogue ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ It’s heart breaking but also intimate and so so amazing to be able to have someone to open up to like that. They truly live in a world of their own. 

 

I think the whole episode was about stepping into each other’s shoes, understanding each other and feeling each other’s feelings. Him following her jujube path was like walking the same path and understanding her and her searching for him was a similar thing too. And they crossed an invisible line between them  and by the end of it he spoke his mind like usually she did inthe past and she used actions by kissing him like he used actions instead of words in the past. the way she kissed him was totally like putting into action the words ‘I will kiss your pain away’ .
They came a full circle.
 

And so their healing journey crossed an important threshold and freed some much needed space for a fresh start ♥️

[[Drama 2021 - 2022] Our Beloved Summer ⏯️ 그 해 우리는]

I wonder what he hasn’t said to her yet. she told him in episode 9 I want to hear something from you that you never said back then. It doesn’t seem to be the obvious ‘I love you’. Is it that both have the same fear of abandonment and she wanted him to say to her that he will never leave her and always come back? I also wonder is what they both wanna hear from each other is exactly the same. That she will always stay by his side is what the lost child in him wanted to hear all along too. And her breaking up further caused his childhood wounds to resurface and that’s why he couldn’t handle the break up well. 
 

Also could there be a possibility that Choi Ung was abandoned and hence adopted by his current parents? Why is it that his parents dote him but he isn’t as affectionate and yet very grateful toward them? If you have such affectionate parents wouldn’t you be naturally more affectionate? Or is it because they left him alone too often?

 

So confusing. Also they are already at the point where they should get back together. I hope that the series doesn’t seem dragged after this unnecessarily pulling them apart and yet I also hope that the ending is a happy one.
 

 

[[Drama 2021 - 2022] Our Beloved Summer ⏯️ 그 해 우리는]

Honestly even I was irritated with YS when she decided to tell Woong that she is not breaking up with him only at the end of the trip together not at the beginning of it. For their breakup, I definitely blame YS and am team Woong.

 

But if I think from YS’s point of view objectively I think her whole character is based on the concept of attack is the best form of defence. Her rude behaviour is totally a facade - she doesn’t want people to see the real her. The real her is the physically fatigued (due to multiple jobs) and the mentally tired self (due to no parents and lack of secure unconditional love). Her grandmother loves her but she too is like her and isn’t overtly affectionate for example like Woongs parents are. The girl crying and looking at herself in the mirror is the real her - the little child malnourished for love. She’s worried if she lets her behaviour become soft she will break down in front of other people. Hence she attacks back with her rudeness instead and builds a wall. 

The pride she has is also to mask her insecurity. She looks down upon herself as lesser than Woong as she doesn’t have a proper family nor money while Woong is from a secure background and loved. So she doesn’t want him to be with her out of pity but because he loves her. Hence she asks him to come to her. And hence she always wanted him to assure her that he loves her no matter what. Despite her background, for who she is, accepting all her flaws. I feel she also wanted to know why he loves her with all his heart and so purely despite her being as flawed as she is. 

 

So coming back to the day trip her excitement and joy was a facade too she was mentally preparing herself to stay 6 months away from Woong. Something she knew she had to push him to do but she too was scared to stay away from him. He’s her only security that she was letting go off for 6 months and she too was worried where they would land and if they could make it through the long distance. The conversation that they had about them not breaking up and that she thought she was in love with him was her mustering courage to be honest with him after her fighting off thousands of fears and thoughts and what if scenarios in her head. She bravely spoke from her heart without filtering and analysing and that’s why the ‘I think I love you’ was as much of a surprise for herself as it was for Woong ❤️

[[Drama 2021 - 2022] Our Beloved Summer ⏯️ 그 해 우리는]

They are In such a crazy world of their own. It’s as if whether they are together or have broken up they still live in a bubble together. Woong did not understand that the idol Likes him even though she’s so straightforward and open about it. the female lead can’t understand that the second lead (can we call him that?) likes her though he also seems obvious. They only communicate, miscommunicate and ignore each other. They run from each other and still want to talk to each other only and then somehow they land up meeting each other also. It’s as if other people and rest of the world don’t exist. To have a love like that is exceptional. But the issue is that it’s all consuming and drains every bit of their being with both enormous joy and deep regrets. It’s even more strange that they are almost robotic with other people and yet have such intense feelings for each other. Where is this story gonna end. Interesting and very intricately written so far. Hope it continues to be so.