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  1. I wanted to pop back in hear and just say I did enjoy the last episode a lot and I do like how they ended everything though I still wish the storybook part was more well developed.  I know there is a distinction between AR and TX but still wish so I could enjoy the whole show more. But the whole cast did an amazing job and overall I did enjoy it. 

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  2. @JenL@VanellopeVS2020 will catch you both on the Devil's Punisher thread. 

     

     

    I am going to miss all of you guys in this thread and hope to see in in the other threads.  I am a bit tired was doing some work deadline stuff so will watch the finale episode later with subs.

     

     

    Though  couple points I like to make is I enjoyed the show alot and even though I did lose some interest due to my love of QF and because I didn't buy in Aoran romance but I have to admit I totally enjoyed the TX and XE moments. I really do like TX's character he is definitely more my type of guy and I think TX and XE do work so I am super happy about this. and Yay for QF and Puff's ending. Super super happy ending. 

     

    I also like MingLi's character growth I feel like. She is how she is because of her family but she acknowledges her faults unlike her younger brother.  

     

    I also love the cast chemistry and how they all did think deeply about why they want to play which other character. Love all the behind the scenes and interviews and thanks so much to everyone keeping the thread updated so that I can catch up on everything. 

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  3. @JenL  Thanks so much for posting the book ending. Actually I find that to be a happy ending too lol.  I also find the episode slow. I also do like that she is slowly getting to know TX. It is nice but I feel that its a bit too late still and the pacing is off. I am glad she was so very into helping QF get his happy ending. 

     

    @VanellopeVS2020 I love QF too. Way too much.  Totally agree about it would have been more interesting for QF to be in the real world vs ChuChu. Also agree at this point if TX does not remember Aoran it wouldn't be as believable a romance since it is very likley that TX and XE end up together. I am resigned to that fact. But yes I really really do hope to see QF happy in a flash or something from the movel. I think I need that to know he is happy since they spent so much time showing us how great a character he is we have to see that he really gets a happy ending.  And like I also totally want to see the Uncle gets what he deserves and hopefully solves all the little questions in a not rushed way so it is satisfying ending for all.

     

    @Ayame Thanks for sharing. 

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  4. @JenL @VanellopeVS2020 Totally agree about liking TX more than Aoran.  I am super happy that XE is trying to get QF is happy ending. I totally wished it was a version of XE too but I'm okay as its not Chuchu as well. Its getting close the end so I'm kind of like just waiting to see how they tie up all the loose ends and I do help the siblings all forgive each other and figure out the uncles behind it all.

     

    I love that Simon is in all the BTS but I do think it is because he is so fun that they like to film him. 

     

    @JenL I am definitely looking forward the show after this.  I do like both Mike He and Ivy Shao so will see him there. 

     

    @Ayame Thanks for posting. 

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  5. @JenL Thanks so much for the translations. And yes I love that Simon is in the BTS for this eppy too lol. They just totally love him.  Oh did you see the insta story of Vivian's with her and Simon playing? So cute. They just kill me. 

     

    @Ayame Thanks for posting.

     

    Okay so I watched the eppy.

     

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    I will probably have more thoughts later. Just like a quick thoughts. I actually glad in the sense that XE is treating her and AR as a dream for now so that maybe she can build more or a relationship with TX. Since he is curious about her now. I look forward to that as I really would love to buy into the main CP of the show. 

     

    Now at least now XE knows that QF likes her but as she said at this point it was way to late for her to know as she already made the decision so I didn't expect anything to come of it. Even if it breaks my heart. @JenL knows what I mean. But if QF told her earlier maybe just maybe  she wasn't in it so deep it would make a difference. 

     

    So sad that there is no QF but at the same time he is mentioned and I do love that XE is trying really hard to help him get his happy ending. That even if in reality she doesn't have one that she wants him to have one. 

     

    So happy she found the author and like yells at him for doing that to Ah Ching. 

     

  6. 17 minutes ago, JenL said:

     

    The theory going around is that TX is afraid of the dark since he hesitated before he gave an answer, he just wasn't willing to admit it to a stranger who was asking him a random question (and that explains why in the trailer he's suddenly interested in XE). So TX still has some elements of AR. I think that idea makes sense to me, though I hope they continue to keep TX cooler than AR. 

     

    @Usaheaven I hope she's not going to find QF to get him to remind TX that he's AR. That would be too much for me....why do screenwriters torture second leads?! But now that there's opportunities for a happy ending, I really hope they give him one! I agree with you, no matter who he is or what happens, I just want him to have a good ending not with CC!

     

     

    @JenL I see the fact that TX would not tell a stranger something that personal to her. But yes would make him curious to the fact that she knows this.  Oh and don't even say that! That would kill me too.  She can't find QF to do that. So not fair. Seconds leads just face sadness but have to be the bigger person.... Yes no CC is all I want.  

     

     

    As for the assistant to Meng Li I think they would be cute together and yes he is so loyal to her so there must be something there to make him that way. 

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  7. @songielove  Don't worry I am still here. I am still invested in seeing this til the end but just wasn't as interested as before. 

    @Anjali Punia Welcome to seem you back.

     

    @Ayame Thanks for posting those. I found it on facebook  but its good to see that version.

     

    @JenL Thanks for your tranlsations as always. And yes you just get me lol. We are on the same QF page. Yes that pic kills me. I love it yet makes me said cuz its like what could it been but will never been kind of taunt.  Yes I was so excited to here he will show up where XE is. So happy. I just love Simon lol.  I still love Marcus and Vivian too though. Hasn't changed lol.

     

    As for the episode

     

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    I do like that the pacing is much faster and happy to see that they are in the real world so that they can solve the mysteries. 

     

    I do like TX. He seems much more real than AR so I am glad to see that. I totally feel for him. And yeah it was sad when she found that TX is not AR.  She was quite all over the map in the episode.

     

    As for QF.  same as @JenL so so sad seeing him wishing her happiness. But I knew that he would.  That is what truely loving one does.  And that he will always be good friends with AR. 

     

    Yes that part with everyone frozen and not him yes that was kind of cool.  Oh and the preview where she said she saw QF and was going to find him? Does that mean he will appear next episode?  Yes I love that with this his chance of being happy are increased. I love your options @JenL. At this point I just want him to be happy. No matter who he is with. I want him to have an ending. Not always wandering. 

     

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  8. @JenL I still wish QF would have clarified even it if was a losing battle. I am also positive it wouldn't have made a difference but still I would think I'd rather know all the facts before making a decision.  I am pretty curious about who is FL was though. 

     

    Also I am the same as you.  My interest in the show is dwindling due to lack of QF scenes. I also will still watch and still discuss with all of you but now I am not anticipating each episode so much anymore its actually easier considering there still is like 6 weeks left of the show. 

     

    I will take whatever you translate. Whatever you feel like translating is like a mini bonus for me :)

     

    @Feby Valentiya I consider  Aoran like a different personality so like somehow they are different people but sometimes maybe they will merge together because they share a body. I would hope TX also falls for XE on his own though. 

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  9. @JenL Thanks as always I enjoy reading your long posts as they usually coincide alot with the way I think too. And yes definitely we will continue to power on always. Yes I saw the live! I really do enjoy watching Simon. He is just really fun.  I do love that Simon said that and I think its a good way to think about because it does make him stronger to go through that. 

     

    @songielove I do know you are are a Marcus fan but I do agree with some of you thoughts too. Yes in the real world you fall in love with people based on what you know about him and then you can get to know them better. But in this case they didn't have any time to develop that. I so wish they spend more time developing that. It makes for a even better story rather than two people that don't know each other too well be in love and getting married without really knowing each other because in time that would never work out. (in real life anyways). I know romance stories aren't always realistic but this its just a bit too much imo only. 

     

     

    I enjoy reading everyone's input since it gives me insight into how people thing about things and it totally helps. 

     

    Does anyone actually know what the novel ending was? I keep trying to search but I can't find anything. Can anyone let me know? 

     

    @Ayame  Thanks for posting! The next episode will be sad for XE and TX/AR.  Also the end of seeing QF. 

     

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    Honestly I still don't feel or buyin their "love". Now I see and think they are adorable. I will not deny that at all. If Marcus  wasn't playing AR I don't know if  would be able to like him much at all. AR is just really a cliche flat character that still hasn't developed enough. Maybe that is the point since is a character in a romance novel as others have said. Usually the ceos I like have developed way more so it helps me understand why even though normally I love the domineering ceo love thing I buy into their relationship better. It is just like full speed ahead. Like 0-80 in a flash. 

     

    But now in the real world they can fix it I am looking forward to that. Alos I noticed that sometimes its funny that QF was saying oh he is still waiting for you so he must really love you. 

     

     

    I am still so curious about QF and how he became a wandering character? Is it because he didn't get an ending really that he is wandering character?  And like the book must have burned or something unless the fire is their ending?  I also wonder why didn't see his Leading lady's face?  Is that someone from the real world?   I feel so sad for QF though when he asked her to stay with him I kind of still wish even if it wouldn't have made a difference that it was because its her. I just want XE to know QFs feelings even if nothing will change. I am always of the opinion you should let everyone know all the facts and let them choose. 

     

    I totally get why she wouldn't want to be a wandering character and plus I do think she should go back because she belongs in the real world and she should go back. But if QF said to XE its because of her I think I would prefer her to know that and not just cuz he wants a companion.

     

    So I am really hoping the XE can find and help QF get his happy ending. 

     

    I am kind of not sure how I felt about AR asking QF for his blessing. Yes I get that he wants it because they are good friends and QF is an important friend to him but if you know he likes the girl you are marrying you should be more sensitive. 

     

    In the end QF did go but I think it was for XE only. Cuz he just wants her to be happy. 

     

    I honestly really wish we can see that drama where the super supportive second lead gets the main lead more often. Too few dramas have that. 

     

     

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  10. @JenL  Yes I share many of your thoughts on the episode. More in spoiler of course.

     

    @guinearoyal Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I see your point and agree with some of it. 

     

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    I forgot if I mention that I do like cute scenes and totally appreciate them. I admit they have chemistry and I enjoy watching their interactions. Yes agree with @JenL felt like this episode is more filler or maybe just showing them date more to try and build relationship but tbh one episode is not enough to help too much in my case at least. They like each other which I am totally not arguing or course it is what it is. It so so painful watching QF scenes now because of all the heartbreak but agree that seeing Simon in the BTS helps. 

     

    I also hate how AR displayed their relationship like that. QF is the character that is always helping the ML so regardless how aware he is I don't think they can completely change their nature which is that QF is second lead but its good that he stepped away because he knows QE likes AR and not because of AR. 

     

    AR does now know XE and vice versa. They have not had enough interactions to know each other well. They just didn't so to be fair it is not possible for them to really know each other which is why this proposal is way too fast. imo.

     

    @JenL I am so dreading the next episodes. Its already so hard to watch and seeing QF basically trying hard to keep her from disappearing? I am so sad thinking about it already without seeing the whole scene. 

     

    Oh and I was thinking that maybe the CC was just written as a nod to QF fans lol that he did treat XE better. So teasing the QF fans. Give us something maybe?

     

    @guinearoyal While I agree that is was really stupid of QF not to tell XE he doesn't like CC and I wish he did. I doubt QF ever had a shot tbh.  He is the second lead and never really stood a chance. I always want it but always knew it wouldn't happen because from the beginning XE only had eyes for AR. Darn SLS.

     

     I agree that maybe now XE sees AR as a person so that makes sense but as per above they don't know each other really well. So all the liking is not too deep because they don't each other. They like each other and that is always possible without really knowing a person. In real life that always happens. 

     

    Forgive me as I am very biased to QF.  So wanted to say this:

     

    As for QF being passive. I do agree in a sense but I think that is inherent second lead characteristic that he can't break from? he always seems to be thinking more than the others. As for following up well to be fair  QF wanted to follow XE but AR stopped him. But as for MR I feel like because XE didn't explain herself too well so its hard for QF to follow-up. Also I feel like if QF did all that would make him the ML but he isn't written to be that way. 

     

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  11. @JenL Thanks for much for the translations. 

     

    @AzhireKook20 @Ayame  Thanks for posting those.

     

    @Sparkly Sunshine Thanks for posting dear. 

     

    Okay so will comment below spoiler

     

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    Okay so I watched the episode and there was a lot of AR and XE cuteness. I admit that but I still do not buy into their relationship. I think at this point there isn't much they can do to build it in their really rushed timeline though to be fair.  Omg QF (I know am totally biased). As @JenLknows. My heart was breaking so much for him in this one. He was totally fair in hitting AR I believe and of course I knew he isn't going to try to get with XE because she likes AR not because they of AR.  I know AR said all that before as an actual friend still not pleased with how he acted but as always QF will be the good friend to the end.  What CC said to QF... I don't know what her intentions are truthfully.  He is in a tough spot.... I love XE friends lol.  I do love that while XE is crazy about AR that she did still notice QF was unhappy and so happy that she isn't one to forgot that QF was always there for her. Still find it hilarious that she doesn't see the QF doesn't like CC though QF never admits it to her but in the end he was unhappy and that even if she had plans with AR she decided to push it back to be there for her friend.  

     

    But I would have liked it if AR didn't like basically say you have to come tonight no matter what even though saying she can go see QF.  I would have preferred they just switched to another day..... would show more friendship.... imo. 

     

    The episode is that going to to be when they go back?   looks like something was happening with TX.  

     

    I am going to miss QF so much if he isn't in the real world.. but they better still mention him somehow.  With the book editing or something. They can't create such a great character and make it so good and just leave him out of the final 6 eps?  If they go back next ep 14. 

     

     

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  12. 13 hours ago, JenL said:

    I agree with this- when they were living in the same house, I felt like there would have been many experiences that would have eventually connected AR & XE together. But it was cut short too soon? Even in the office XE doesn't really work with him, so it seems like they don't have as much interaction, so the jumps in feelings were unnatural for me in a storytelling perspective. 

     

    Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens when XE has to choose between AR and TX! While I do feel bad for TX, I don't think I've been attached to him that much to be honest because we only got a glimpse of him before he turned into AR. I think I've been caring for the story world characters more throughout the drama (Hahaha definately QF at least!). But there's a sense of curiosity as to what TX is like and how he'll be connected to XE in the real world too.

     

    @Usaheaven Haha, I wonder if QF will turn up in the real world now - sometimes when an actor keeps denying something will happen, it actually happens! But it could also be the truth that he doesn't as well since Simon looks like he's been keeping busy with other projects too. I really can't tell! >.< The writers definitely underestimated QF charms! And Yes!! A lot of my Twitter convos about Lost Romance have been people saying the scenes were hot, but they didn't buy into the romance, especially the cheesy confession at knife's point! It's not so great when you can see that the comparison is a more organic relationship developing with QF. I don't think I've ever read a serious romantic novel before (have read teen ones, but not those trashy Mills and Boon/ 50 shades type novels), but I feel like they probably would have these types of proposals in them -___-;; I'm personally weirded out by a proposal in this rushed timeline - it just seems like too much. And though I like XE, if she accepts, I think I would feel like this is her fantasies in an unhealthy overdrive. In the last few episodes I find that I like XE, but I like her less when she's fretting about AR. I totally have a QF bias, but even if I didn't, I would still find it a bit irritating that she cries over AR so much, and she gets so doe-eyed over him rescuing her one time...and it doesn't help that AR & XE's lines tend to be more overbearingly mushy than QF & XE's lines, which seem more reflective of how people who actually date might banter. QF withdrawl is a real thing! I think XE will miss him, it would be a shame not to reference him in some way - maybe she'll ask the writer to make him the main character in another book!

     

    @JenL  Yes I think they definitely cut the living together part way too soon. It would so help their relationship. Oh yes I so am weird out because even in totally cheesy romance novels I feel like they would have still a bit more development than we have here before they hit the proposal stage. This is a bit way too rushed. I agree that if XE does accept then she really would consider this the fantasy world and not really real? Because their relationship would not work in the real world.  I just with AR have more character development than he has doesn't seem like overall his character changed. 

     

    I really do hope in the real world he does get referenced. It still is so weird for me to think the second lead role is already over so soon?  I don't think I have seen the role cut so short before?  Unless you count that show Rain did where they extended and cdrama but the he wasn't able to film lol so he didn't exist for 20 eps lol and he was the ML.  And yes I would hope QF could be a main in another book.  Or convince the writer to give QF a happier ending?

     

     

    I do love the Marcus  and Simon bromance.  I really do love that they are so close and they hang out together offset. I hope to continue seeing that after the drama is all done. I hope they do another drama together in the future lol. 

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  13. 7 hours ago, JenL said:

    Haha @songielove Yes! I saw that pop up...and have been watching the different versions of the concert footage too. Actually working on a quick translation of the talking parts. Those boys are soooo pretty together. 

     

    For anyone who doesn't know Chinese, I'll post the translation on my blog in a minute. There were lots of funny bits - They made Simon pretend to be Xiao En and Marcus say the same lines to Simon. Also funny was how much Bromance there was going on. Simon asking the crowd "How hot is Marcus?" Marcus asking the crowd "How hot is Simon?" Etc

     

     

    Lost Romance Episode 13 Trailer focused on QF and XE (Updated with official)

     

    @Usaheaven Yeah, AR and XE scenes (aside from the bedroom scenes) have been just so-so for me because AR's doubting/jealousy/domineering attitude doesn't make me feel much. The other thing is, in their relationship, either XE is weak or AR is weak and the relationship feels weirdly like just a series of dramatic rescues, but with QF,  XE and him are equals which I think looks more healthy for a relationship (But it's a drama, so they're going for the dramatics). It's a shame QF hasn't just explicitly told her his feelings and it looks like he might, but it'll much too late next episode because it looks AR is thinking of proposing?! (He only just decided he liked her?!) it's looking really sad. I doubt XE will change her feelings because now I feel like she's too wrapped up in being CEO's woman, that she'll just feel sad and sorry when QF tells her. It's going to be some rough episodes ahead :(

     

    @Usi Haha, no CC for anyone. She's just too annoying and evil (though I'm enjoying watching her as an evil person more than helpless person). I feel like at this point I'd prefer to see QF happy but alone a la Extraordinary You style since I'm not fully in love with any of the other female characters. TX I think will inevitably end up with XE, since AR is just a story book character? I would love it to be a real life QF and her, but highly unlikely for a second lead!

    @JenL  Thanks so much! I loved the bromance but why he had to add the part QF not in real world la... so sad so sad. And I totally agree that right now it wouldn't help if QF told XE his feelings. I think he is aware of that too. I told its a drama so yeah they don't pick the healthier relationship but then again why make QF so likeable? I think the writers underestimated his charm... But I have read many comments that as much as ppl enjoy the AR XE scenes that alot of people agree that they don't see how they fell in love either. Proposal?  I know its a romance novel but come on its way too fast. But that is probably why QF so mad at AR. I know I am so sad already thinking about how sad QF is. This promo does not help. Makes me sadder and not just on the romance front but it sounds like XE will be leaving the novel world soon. And it so sad because she made his life much more interesting and he doesn't want her to go. I am going to suffer from QF withdrawal once we get the real world.. Do you think it is too much to hope the at least XE will miss having QF around? I just need to grasp onto something lol.  This SLS.

     

    @Ayame Thanks for the link. 

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  14. 11 hours ago, JenL said:

    Haha, I was very annoyed at AR for the first quarter of the episode because I did feel like he was dense - like QF pretty much pulled out XE's arm to show blood and no one said anything about it?? Why would you make her apologise to CC without finding proof! Also once again, QF was perceptive and suspicious of CC's story right away, but AR was slow to the ball. And then, I wasn't comfortable about AR turning the conversation around from CC lying to making XE feel guilty about TX. Like you literally did not stick up for her a few seconds ago, and now you're mad at her for possibly liking someone else?? I was not impressed - jealousy is not romantic and I feel like turning the conversation like like that was a cheap move, even if it had been bothering him. But, on the other hand, I do understand why it bothered him - I'd hate to be liked because I was the spitting image of someone else (But could he have mentioned in later not right then?!) At least now I understand why XE said those words about liking AR not TX - she was given an ultimatum. But it is a lie since she likes TX anyway. I find it interesting that the new love triangle is between AR & TX, not QF & AR now - My heart really hurts for QF though.

     

    I am so so so glad XE slapped CC. She really deserved it so much for last week, this week and even next week - she is really, really annoying even if she did eventually help XE (though that was because she was afraid of what would happen to AR since she is too weak to help him and she got them all into the kidnapping mess in the first place and would have to explain things to AR). Though I think she's awful and it was much deserved, and though I very much back XE, in a complicated way XE is not overly innocent either - she did want to be first lead which is technically 'stealing' CC's spot. But the methods she used to get there were kind and genuinely helpful to CC, and she also admitted liking the CEO rather than denied it when CC asked, so it wasn't done behind her back. CC is just a terrible character on the whole - super petty and scheming.

     

    I thought this kidnapping was fun. I have always known Marcus to be a good actor, but Jason Hsu is very good as a bad guy. I was impressed - he channelled the same psychotic behaviour as his sister in the real world. I did think it was a bit too silly that AR confessed to XE in the middle of having a knife to his neck. Um, ok. I have to keep reminding myself that they are in a trashy romance book world or I would have been disappointed - haha, MR did make me laugh when he said "Have you both said enough now?!" In the real world, I find MingLi has created a monster out of her brother - TJ wanted to be reasonable at first, but I think he's gone down the "I'm fighting evil with evil" route and he's pretty dark right now. Kind of weird that TX was kidnapped last ep and they didn't really spend much time looking for him this ep?

     

    You all know by now, that I don't really feel much for AR and XE being together....BUT THAT BEDROOM SCENE!!! Do I still think there's been a better relationship development between QF & XE? Yep! Do I think QF is still the better character to be romantically involved with? Yep! But did I enjoy those scenes? Yeah, I'll admit I still did, if only to see Vivian & Marcus (rather than AR & XE) heat up the screen! It was tastefully and beautifully shot and even though @Anjali Punia is right to say I'm a big Jasper fan & big Jasper + Puff fan, I think this bedroom scene was actually longer and more sensual than the one in Before We Get Married (I still like that scene for the actors, but I found this one to be more aesthetically pleasing and romantic). Yep, it was super hot, Haha, the staircase scene was a whole thing too! 

     

    Last thing I need to talk about is QF (Haha @Usaheaven would know this about me since we commiserate together). It hurts that he's been swept aside - coz now that TX seems to be competition, QF is not even viewed as that. But once again, as a viewer you're shown that he's so good to XE in that he noticed her moods better than AR, he believed her more readily when CC pushed her. For me, AR pales in comparison as a character except as a wish fulfilment for XE's attraction/ idolisation of TX (even though she denies this in the heat of the moment to AR). The only thing that cheered me up on the QF front was that Simon and Vivian have a section in the behind the scenes!

     

    @songielove - I know! I was disappointed about the lack of BTS footage for the bedroom scenes. It was more like the morning after scenes! Maybe they will put it in for next episode like they did with the kiss? Haha, I prefer Vivian + Marcus to AR + XE, so I'm hoping it'll be like a surprise bonus bit. I have more to say to everyone individuallly , but will do it tomorrow.

     

    @JenL  Totally agree with you about being annoyed with AR in the beginning. Why are you still doubting her?  Like I don't know I thought they were past this now. 

     

    Yes its more of a AR-XE-TX triangle.  The whole bedroom scene are nice okay I admit I enjoyed it too. it was sweet even though still the relationship still is not believable for me.   

     

    And yes QF I know because we are always on the same page with that.  And yes QF needs to tell her how he feels. Or at least clear up that he does not like CC anymore. Though when he does I know I will be sad because at this moment she definitely doesn't feel the same way. She is too wrapped up in being the FL and CEO's woman. But maybe one day she will realize what she and QF is more real. ok my wishful thinking. I really truly wonder if her realizing how QF feels about her will change anything? But one thing for sure is that QF only wants her to be happy in the end. As long as she is happy he will be as well even if it hurts him. But I wouldn't not blame him at all for trying to go for her though. Does not make him "black". 

     

    Lol Simon was too cute and shy in that BTS. They are so playing with us lol. Like they put Simon in more BTS than the actual episode.  

     

    @Anjali Punia Haha same here. I liked Jasper first and then Marcus and now Simon lol. 

     

    @songielove Yes I can see how the moments grew on AR but still even he doesn't really understand why he likes her just that he knows that he does... that is why I don't buy it.  The writers I think were just too slow I think. I am too invested in QF so it just makes AR not a great character and with TX.... there are only 8 eps left?  Is it enough I don't know for me to buy into? I have no idea. 

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  15. @Anjali Punia You should totally watch  Pleasantly Surprised and When I See you again. The Patisserie with No Name I enjoyed as well. And IUUI. I forgot where I saw that one though. 

     

    @VanellopeVS2020  Yes QF deserves a good ending. I so am 50/50 on him being a part of TX in teh real world.... I don't think he really would become bad. I think he was just venting it out on AR because he has the right to. Definitely didn't act like a good friend.  And agree about AR still needing to do more for me to really root for them still. Ep 12 helped a little but only a tiny bit. Still not enough for me to root for them. 

     

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    So I watched the episode and while I see why the bed scene is necessarily and don't get me wrong they are hot and I didn't hate it but still can't see the why they like each other. Yes I know they do but why? Still not really answered other than physically being attracted and for XE I feel like she still likes him because he is a CEO but does realize she doesn't know TX so can't like him. She likes the person in front of her. But still like their relationship would never really work in the "real world".  But at least they are seeing each other more so now they can get to know each other which will definitely help their relationship grow. 

     

    But I feel so pained seeing QF see them like that.... omg Aoran should have at least told QF he liked XE..... honestly  he can go for her since you know with liking nobody is wrong per say but before you chase her should have the courtesy to tell your best friend. I still can't get over that. I really feel QF is frustrated....

     

    Oh side note the BTS so can't wait... looks so hilarious.  Simon is in more of it haha... Oh and his post .. his fans so sweet la.   Supporting XE and QF in the real world... haha   Vivian commented return to the real world together.  Write novels together... . I will take it as long as QF is in the real world la.

     

     

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  16. @JenL Yes I feel that way too. Totally justifiable for QF. That is being human I feel like. AR had it coming. I look forward to the BTS translation

     

    @songielove So glad you felt it was too fast too. I can get it but still a bit too soon. Really they filmed it earlier on? Yes AR deserved it because he was a horrible friend to QF. I don’t think he would beat him up. Its all his frustration that he needed to get it out. 
     

     

    but maybe AR has to realize he is TX for them to go back? 
     

    @Anjali Punia The scenes were hot for sure. And yes feel so bad for QF.  He deserves more. 

     

     

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  17. @Yseia Yes I know Qing Feng was just omg... I think you can tell that he has realized the whole situation with him not being the lead. So he was like hope they can both find the happiness that they want. Since he knows he won't be able to be with the one he likes.  He has said before the 3rd person doesn't have to try anything. But I am so curious how much he knows and what don't we know about him? I totally agree I don't get how she is so oblivious about QF's feelings. Like if she is the FL then why can't the 2nd lead like her? But QF liked her way before she was swapped to FL. It was so sad how like everything thing he did for her doesn't compare to the one thing that Aoran did. But then again that is typical for the FL to do. 

     

    Personally it is kind of funny I know someone mentioned before that they are making fun of the tropes but in the end still kind of follow it. Not completely still do so wouldn't it been better to flip it lol so she goes with 2nd lead in the novel? But yeah they won't sadly. 

     

    @songielove Agree about Xiao En and Aoran needing something to build on though I feel like there should be more build up before they do all that to make it more meaningful. I mean I feel like right now probably it is after the big rescue and Xiao En declaration so there a little build up but I would love for them to have more before taking it to that level.  I know they desperately need it because right now XE and AR don't really like each other per say. Like the real person. They both wouldn't be able to say in the non generic reasons why they like each other.  So I am truly hoping that they are able to build in in RL so that we can get a great story and truly root for their relationship. Which is why personally that steamy scene should happen more towards to end which make it even better in my opinion since by then they truly love each other (the real people). 

     

    Although I am so dreading leaving the novel because no more QF but at the same time they need the time in the Real world to solve everything for for the XE and TX relationship to be great. 

     

    I really want to root for them I really do but because of the SLS and the build up between XE and QF is so much better. 

     

    But I do want to see how ep 12 turns out. Maybe I will be moved more than I think? 

     

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    I have this scenario in my head between XE and QF and her finally realizing her likes her and is really moved by it... I can see it because in the beginning she already felt like rooting for him in the early eps on.  

     

     

    ETA:   @JenL We posted around the same time lol.  Yes I do hope they continue to support Simon as well.  It would help him getting a another good drama being in the ML role. And yes he better get a good ending. I think alot of people want QF to get a good ending. Even those that are not really big QF fans. 

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  18. 19 minutes ago, JenL said:

     

    As for AR's liking XE, I agree - I don't think there has to be any real reason why he likes XE as he also had superficial reasons for liking CC and he goes with the flow of the writer. As mentioned before, his character is written to be intense and dramatic (that's what domineering CEO characters are!) and so it's probably part of his character make-up to like the nice main female lead. And I also agree that he does show interest and care to XE in a number of ways that are more subtle than QF, such as when he thought of XE when he was afraid of being in the dark which was sweet.

     

    I guess the point I'm trying to make is: The subtly of their romance (and then the sudden shift into bedroom scene) makes the story-telling a bit strange to follow, a bit like the sudden extremes of going from 0 to 100 - if you've been someone with SL syndrome during this drama, there hasn't been that many romantic tension moments to get to the bedroom scene, while there has a lot for the second lead, but obviously they will not be progressing to bedroom scene, so it feels a bit flat from a story-telling point of view. This doesn't apply to every viewer - there are obviously some very excited Marcus fans and people who ship the main pair because they feel the romance! And I think that's good for them - and I'm happy they're happy! But then there's a portion of people who are a bit less excited because the story telling structure has made it less easy for them to be devoted to the main pair and I think it's fair to have that point of view too, given QF is a very, very likeable second lead character.

     

     

    @JenL This I totally agree with.  I know there are quite a bunch of fans that do see the AR/XE romance which is totally amazing great for them. Makes for a happy viewing.  Personally I can kind of see the flow but it feel forced and contrived to me. For a main couple I would just hope the story behind their relationship is better.  I think for people who feel the SLS it is harder to accept that is all.  I see the concern for XE that he has and since tech AR is not sure of his feelings we aren't either? I think because QF is so likeable a character it does make people less happy with the main cp right now. But there is definitely people that are a fan of AR character as the domineering CEO so I think they are fine with it because they haven't have as many scenes together? Though just my opinion I feel like its not just the number just the quality of the scenes together makes a big difference so this who ep12 will probably help. Truthfully for me that as much of sway but to alot of others I can see why they are excited.

     

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    @Usaheaven Yep, I agree. I don't love the domineering CEO characters in most dramas, but if there's good character development, I will find it easier to be into them. For this one, I think because the drama was promoted as poking fun of the stereotypes, I think it would have been more likeable if he started out as domineering CEO but was trying to break out of that or have some event that showed more noticeable depth and development of the character. To be honest, I think I'm more fond of Vivian x Marcus moments in the Behind the Scenes than AR x XE - This week was particularly cute! I'm always a fan of Simon x Vivian moments too - very different from the romantic tension of QF x XE, but a lot of fun in real life since they tease each other so much.

     

    Yes they are poking fun at the stereotypes but as the same time they show XE to be a fan of this character so  I can see her falling for a CEO. (Not particuarly AR). Yes I wish he did break out more but he really hasn't. Yes he has fallen for XE but technically she became the FL so it is within character?   Vivian X Marcus they are cute. Marcus is so shyish sometimes its so adorable.  Simon X Vivian are just fun. But they can paly the tension too so its good. 

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  19. @JenL Yes well said. I get in real life that happens but it should be more in a drama. The whole living situation I think they should have left cuz then I think we could actually see them fall for each other.  I guess I can say  XE liking AR because he is the one that found her in the washroom and rushed to save her?  So in that case she does know AR better than TX? I still don't find it really like a great love story yet. I really hope they rectify it because if I can believe in them it helps alot with the sls. I know they are playing the domineering CEO so it does fit that characteristic. TBH I sometimes to like that cliche but maybe because he is a storybook character there isn't enough depth to the character so I can't get into it?  I really do want to for the story sake. I think having such a second lead like QF makes AR less appealing for sure.   Thanks so much for the BTH so far. Love love their interactions. Marcus and Vivian are cute and so are Vivian and Simon being all silly. 

     

    @Justadramaviewer

    He was lead before but not with more well known actors. I really do hope he gets a good drama next time. I think he is a good route to getting it because he is definitely gaining fans with this one. 

     

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