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  1. I've been watching silently, and I didn't expect the thriller aspect of the drama to pick up so quickly these last two episodes. I was getting major anxiety when Haeyi went missing then abducted. I deduced that it was assistant Ji when one of his ex-classmate from the police station recognized him. I've waited so long for the reveal, but hate that Haeyi had to get hurt in the middle of everything.

     

    I'm also most frustrated by the tone-deaf, tunnel-vision moms. Particularly Sunjae and Suah's moms. Watching their actions actually triggered my childhood memories of my own mom. My mom wasn't anywhere nearly as bad as these dramatized versions of parenting. But it made me reflect on my upbringing a lot. Bad parenting is a form of generational trauma. And even though the drama generalize and overdramatized this to an extreme, I still think the complexity of a mom's love and poor decision-making is fairly realistic. 

     

    Anyway, I'm looking forward to the ending. I can't wait until we get back to the regularly scheduled heart-warming times at the Nam household. I agree with IU, this drama is giving warm and cozy vibes.

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  2. I'm one of those viewers who know nothing about the webtoon and going by what I see with the drama. I think what I like about this story is that both characters Yumi and Woong have major weaknesses and strengths, but they always managed to get through each problems and crisis in their relationship together. They focused on how they communicated and compromised, showing what might make sense in one's mind make not make sense to another. And I love how this drama personifies this process via the cells.

     

    While I'm also frustrated with Woong, I recognize there are times when your mind might freeze up and can't communicate. Or you didn't think of the perfect thing to say until a day later. A relationship shouldn't hinge on saying the perfect words at one precise moment in time. If they truly love each other, they can come to an understanding and forgive the person when they're not at their best. I don't know if marriage is their end-game, but I hope that they end up making a choice that's right for themselves. If it means staying together because they're better together, I'll be more than happy to finish the drama on that note, but I'll also appreciate an ending where they end up apart because they need to grow on their own. Love and personal success can sometimes get in the way of each other, and I like how it's realistically portrayed here.

     

     

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  3. 2 hours ago, reddragon said:

    The way I look at it, Yo Han already planned to have Ga On to replace him. But he has an unorthodox way of teaching his ward about the real world because he still has his rose-colored glasses on.

     

    Exactly. He was teaching Gaon by the way of examples, and if you think about it, K was also his protege. The lessons were clear and consistent. Think before you act, observe wisely to get intel, always plan ahead, and no one is truly innocent which could be used to one's advantage. Gaon even picked up on some of them since he partook in Yohan's plans of punishing the scammer who ruin his parent's lives. Gaon also thanked Yohan for helping him serve justice. If this didn't foster trust, then Gaon shouldn't have gotten involved. They were a good team until Gaon's hubris and bias were used against him. Similar to how Chief Justice Min's own ego got him in cahoots with Sunah.

     

    Sunah, for what she's worth, died by her own hands still in control. I think it's pretty clear that she never wanted to cause more pain onto others. She only got close to Yohan's enemies and even became one herself so Yohan would pay attention to her. I don't quite sympathize with her, but the actress did an excellent job portraying this complex character. Note that she wore white (funeral attire) to the court. She knew that it's the end of the road for her. It also contrasted nicely with Yohan's usual black (devil/reaper attire).

     

    Back to the ending. I love it. I like that it wasn't too sentimental but ties up all the loose end. The actress who helped Yohan by pretending to be a witness to help win their first case became a central role that exposed the foundation's crimes. I appreciate that full circle, most dramas would've let that go since the audience won't remember her anyway. I'm also glad Elijah finally understood Yohan's true heart. The way that Gaon explain it to her was quite sweet. It's better that she doesn't know the truth. Even if she finds out, I hope she's in a much better headspace mentally to handle the truth. 

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  4. 1 hour ago, LeftCoastOppa said:

     

    Yo-Han was deliberately withholding from Ga-On, and in a fashion was manipulating him just as the Foundation was, just to different ends. And please, I'm so tired of the argument "...why would Yohan trust a man who..."  Yo-Han set the stage! He is the one that BROUGHT Ga-On into his own house and all but demanded he stay there.  If Ga-On cannot be trusted, then you DON'T bring him into your home, you DON'T give him direct access to Elijah

     

    That's the whole point isn't it? Sunah intentionally set Gaon up because he's Yohan's weakness. We've already established this. Yohan doesn't trust anyone, but he can't help BUT trust Gaon (understandably on his terms) because he resembles his brother in many ways, including bringing humanity back to the household. Of course his kindness toward Gaon makes no logical sense. But this proves that Yohan isn't an emotionless shell of a man. Sunah knew this full well, which is why she said at the beginning that we'll see if Yohan truly doesn't have anyone left to protect.

     

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    - And sorry, Ga-On would've never turned Elijah into the police for what was clearly an accident, the character as presented is not that obtuse. The man (yes man) does NOT "blindly" follow the law, as the Cha Kyung-Hee suicide clearly showed. 

     

    Yohan doesn't know that. Gaon has done nothing to prove to Yohan that he can trust him with Elijah's life on the line. He was willing to put himself on the line for Gaon, but he draws a line with Elijah.

     

    Had Gaon proved himself to be trustworthy, I have no doubt that he eventually would've disclose the full truth. But Yohan was going to take this secret to the grave. He would not have shared it with anyone. Let alone someone who's loyal to another, who would turn his back on the two of them as soon as Soohyun said no.

     

    And for the record, Sunah and the foundation are clearly the true evils. We can blame Yohan for wanting to take revenge and made a few illogical because he has a heart. He doesn't frustrates me as much as Gaon who acts blindly with his heart. Since I'm still waiting on the subs, I'm looking forward to Gaon's next steps. I hope he can put himself back together and join hands with  Yohan and Elijah in return.

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  5. 20 hours ago, LeftCoastOppa said:

    At this point the end game was in play, why not entrust Ga-On with the secret? Ga-On already CLEARLY had deep feelings for Elijah and would never have hurt her, even if he had to take Yo-Han down for another reason.  While this would not have stopped Sun-A who already had the power and influence to take Yo-Han down, he could've eliminated even the slightest suspicion and ensured camaraderie between himself an Ga-On. 

     

    Dude. Gaon basically betrayed him TWICE. Once when he thought Yohan's methods are too much. And again, when he took Elijah away WITHOUT ASKING. Why would Yohan trust a man who throws a hissy fit and breaks his trust when he has shown him nothing but kindness (treated his wounds, housed him, fed him, let him come in and out of the mansion as he pleases, showed him the truth and justice for his parent's murder the list goes on). 

     

    Gaon does NOT deserved to know the truth about the church fire. He's too naive, impressionable, and self-righteous. Showing Gaon would risk him turning Elijah in because the boy (yes boy) blindly abides by the "law". Even though he knows the law is broken and there is no real justice.

     

    I'm behind and catching up today. But wow, this episode had me feeling rage on Yohan's behalf. Everything we predicted was correct including evil Chief Justice Min. I thought he was working for the foundation but later on gave him benefit of doubt because of his history with Gaon. Dang, the man was essentially a father figure to Gaon, so this betrayal struck him to the core, and I truly feel bad for him. Like Yohan said, he's just like his brother, they only believe by what they see/judges a book by its cover. That's why Yohan decided to protect him like he did with his brother...

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  6. 3 hours ago, Kvothe said:

    Not a fan of Soo Hyun dying, but not because I'm a fan of her character or anything...because she was very little more than a plot device the whole drama. But her death means it's more and more likely that Yohan will die in the final episode, leaving Ga On and Elijah to take care of each other. 

    Oh yeah, I got big character death energy from Yohan since episode 3 or 4. He's the type who says he'd watch the world burn but would sacrifice everything for his loved ones. In any case, I hope he has more planned out than this to make sure they won't weasel their way out of the trial.

     

    I'm also not a fan of Soohyun, but I'm curious about what she learned from Jung Joseph, and what she was about to say to Gaon before getting shot. It was an anti-climatic way to go, imo.

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  7. Wow, so many backstabbing and reversals in the two episodes. Yet, I feel like these are the weakest episodes, yet. There were a lot of inaction from Gaon, Yohan, Jin Joo, even the big bads and Sunah (until the last ten minutes).

     

    What a misguided reaction from the chief justice Min. He's too easily befuddled and out-of-touch with the social unrest around him. What a terribly lapse of judgement by putting himself and his family in danger without setting basic security measures to protect them.

     

    For once, I understand Soohyun's emotions. Gaon forced her to break her morality/character and broke her trust. He broke a pact that they made together since children and that's huge. HOWEVER, I think it's about high time for her to wake up and stop being so naive. Gaon isn't a little boy that she must preserved as 'good' forever. To see him that way is an insult to the trauma he suffered. He's a grown man who made his own decision to fight against the corrupted (as Yohan described). She also must realized how flawed the system is, and continuing on doing things by the book doesn't help. Every time, I think she'll get it, she takes two steps back. Her and judge Min are quite frustrating characters in the mist of Yohan's fight against the big bads.

     

    The ultimatum Yohan asked of Gaon to pick between him and Soohyun was so out of character and cliche that I cringed. I know it's stemming from a place of anxiety of losing a spooked Gaon, but it's not the way to gain his trust. It's kind of a huge miscalculation on Yohan part, thinking that Elijah and fam would be fine without him. But because the writers need to make Yohan sad and lonely again, they made him lash out irrationally. Poor Elijah.

     

    Also, K being so easily captured felt like another forced plot point. Sunah's minion shouldn't have been able to capture a man who's live half his life as a calculated and thorough espionage. He should be even more alert at such a critical time in their mission. One of their powerful pawns just committed suicide and they got nothing out of her, maybe take extra precaution. I think the writers had trouble connecting from the previous episode to now. The plot point is igniting Yohan's rage by using Gaon and K as the sacrifices, but the writers ran out of ideas of how to get us there now that all the mysteries are revealed.

     

    I wish they stuck to the one-case per episode formula. The more they unraveled things outside of court, the more chaotic and muddled the story became. That said, looks like it's Yohan's turn next episode. What does everyone think? Will he throw it all away to avenge K? Will Gaon and Yohan Soohyun kiss and make up? Will we get another pointless interrogation/accusation in the court scene? Any guesses to who Jung Joseph was? Did we meet any other characters with that last name?

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  8. To echo @ferily 's thoughts on Yohan's human side. I especially enjoyed the exchange he had with Gaon in the present juxtaposed with Isaac in the past.

     

    He remarked, "As expected, you're just like him... You only believe in what you see."

     

    And we cut to Isaac's misunderstand about Yohan's interaction with Sun Ah, while Yohan remained silent. The poor boy didn't say anything because he knows they won't believe him even if he tells the truth. Humans are easily swayed by their own biases, and often times despite of what they see/witness. This is the first insight.

     

    Despite Isaac's biased view of Yohan, he continued to love and nurture him. He gave him a chance at redemption by offering a pact with him to never harm innocent people. Yohan made the promise without hesitance. From his perspective and (pessimistic) understanding of the world, such a person doesn't exist, so he would never break this promise. This is the second insight.

     

    Yohan has always acted and planned according to these two insights ever since. That he possessed a deep understanding of humanity at such a young age must've isolated him from his peers and those around him.

     

    I'm so impressed by how much is layered into this scene, and how Yohan's character was explained with barely a few spoken lines and interlaced with the flashback. AND we also have Gaon's discovery of Elijah and Yohan's true hearts purely by accident with the maid's cooking. I have to give it to the writers for some of the best writing for this show so far! :wub:

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  9. On 7/26/2021 at 6:46 PM, ferily said:

    I think it's because his parents death and the scammer who caused his parent's death had a huge impact on his life and all these years, Ga On thought the scammer was in prison and serving his time. He believed that this was what the system is and how it is, but after seeing that a switch happen, everything he basically believed in was stomped all over and crushed. Of course he was skeptical at first about the switch, which is why he did some digging in the financial reports for Do Young Chun, and after he found out from his prosecutor friend that it wasn't Yo Han, I think that's what motivated him to side with Yo Han. He slowly realized how messy and bad the system can be and he has been by Yo Han's side for awhile so maybe he has some affection for him? :lol: 

     

    Yo Han mentioned that Ga On is someone who he either will side with or destroy if Ga On gets in his way, so I think that's why he chooses to bring Ga On to his side. I don't think it's because of Ga On looking like his hyung.

     

    Yeah, I have the same train of thought. If I keep second-guessing everyone's motives, then I'll never fully enjoy the drama or make sense of the story. Lol. I also think Gaon has some sympathy for the family, especially for Elijah, but also extended a bit of it to Yohan as well. 

     

    I love a good vigilante justice story, (think Sympathy for Lady Vengeance), so I'm all for Gaon awakening and teaming up with Yohan. This isn't world like Forest of Secrets/Stranger where there's still a functioning judicial system in place to check against and correct corruption. It's an idealistic thought that won't come into fruition without a substantial amount of government reform. And that's just not the story that I signed up for, the drama is called the Devil Judge, and I want to see the Devil do his work, lol!

     

    We've been given enough clues to understand that Yohan is morally gray. And we can also confirm that making the maid fall out the window wasn't just for "fun", he was protecting his family. He's not afraid to break the rules to win the game, and we'll find out how far is too far for even him.

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  10. 4 hours ago, Maliah said:

    In all of those, I really feel for Oh Jin Joo. Yo Han and Ga On keep her out of the loop and she detests it. Yo Han is invested in his schemes and doesn’t communicate with anyone other than Ga On. Ga On, on the other hand, is busy playing detective. Oh Jin Joo actually does her job but still gets sidelined. I won’t be surprised or blame her if she does jump ships to Sun Ah. Eventually, she’ll go back though when she is confronted with Sun Ah’s reality…..if she’s alive to do that. I don’t know why ,but I feel like death is looming over her. I really hope I’m wrong. 

     

    I felt the same way about her, and believe her ambition will be her downfall. When Sun Ah put the pearl necklace around her neck, it certainly reads as a strong metaphor for Jin Joo falling under Sun Ah's control. But also it literally look like Sun Ah was the devil looming behind her. The lingering soft touches and her sing-song voice combined with those dead eyes gave me chills. 

     

    I think the theme of obsession is stronger throughout this episode. Certainly Sun Ah's deathly obsession with Yohan, and Yohan and Gaon mutual obsession with each other. Gaon is finding a twisted sort of mentorship in Yohan. Not quite sure what Yohan makes of Gaon other than seeing him as Isaac. Yohan puts up the front that he won't hesitate to get rid of Gaon if he goes against him, but we all know that he won't. A bold proclamation that'll definitely come back to cause trouble for him later.

     

    I'm not sure what to make of Soohyun and Elijah's current storyline. It's great that Elijah finds a confidant and friend in Soohyun rather quickly. If it's meant to be a little side story to help buffer all the doom and gloom, then it worked. It'll be more interesting to the story if Elijah was secretly sent by Yohan to dig up Soohyun's motives instead.

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  11. On 7/20/2021 at 8:29 AM, iria said:

    i think the general public opinion wont affect the flow of the drama. As far as i know, this is the pre-produced drama, which means the filming for all episodes has been done. 

     

    One of the main discussion in korean forum, the director actually mentioned that kim gaon is the toughest and most complex character to play, up to the point that they have a difficulty of finding the right actor to play as gaon. Therefore i think Kim Gaon is not as 2 dimensional as we think (naïve, lack of sense etc etc). who knows that maybe he is the main antagonist in this drama right (lol this is a reach tho).

     

    i mean people really underestimate him, which i think is what the director wish for. like in the first and second episode, he might appear as a fool for putting the spying device on the most obvious place, and people praise yohan for noticing the spying device. but what if all of these is intentional? what if Gaon intentionally wanted to be caught so he can be in yohan's radar? what if all his naivety and foolishness is just a façade? 

     

    He could be good or bad, astute or naive for all I care, but he currently lacks conviction/motive. I don't dislike the character, but I feel apathetic toward him. The show need to give us a reason to care about him as a person. Luckily, from the preview we might be able to finally see more of his story. Usually by episode 4 or 5, we'd already have a good the sense of all the characters, or at least a strong desire to want to know them. If the writers are playing a long-game with this character, making him make irrational decisions isn't winning the international viewers over, lol.

     

    I hope he fits into the story in a brilliant way. Maybe he had plastic surgery to make himself look exactly Isaac for a darker reason underneath. Though, there's no way that Yohan didn't do a thorough background check on the two judges who would work with him. Yohan lives to study and manipulate people, so it would be a total surprise if Gaon flips the script on him.

     

    Just curious... what do the Korean viewers think of all the skinship / fan service between them? 

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  12. Idk, I just feel like Ga On's motives to 'uncover' Yohan's true nature is not worth everything he's risking for to get it. Remember, he's only doing this because his 'mentor' told him to. Not because he himself believes Yohan is a monster, or that he has a personal vendetta against Yohan.

     

    Was it worth getting his childhood friend/crush involved, or risk his position and whole career as a judge, or even his own life when he chased after the biker lady? I guess we'll find out next week whether his mentor's intentions are as pure as he claimed. I just fail to see him as a believable character. He brings back some humanity to Elijah and Yohan's domestic life, but otherwise is just stirring up trouble as a plot point.

     

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    Exactly. That has to be a better reason to continue to stay and play-house at a sociopath's home.

     

     

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  13. On 7/14/2021 at 5:47 PM, Di_Ya said:

    Why Kang Yo-Han doesn't have a biblical name? Has he changed it or hadn't got any in the first place? If he has, does it mean it would reveal his true nature? Ot Yo-Han is a Korean version of one? Also, do you think those name are even important to the story, aside the fact they are a clue of religious background of the story?

     

    I thought this one is obvious, he doesn't have one because he's an illegitimate son, and therefore deemed unworthy to carry the holy names of prophets and saints.

     

    Though, a little Wikipedia birdy will tell you that Yohan is also the official Korean equivalent of the Biblical name John (Yahya in Arabic). So there you have it.

     

    As for whether the characters' story/personality correspond to the prophets and saints they're named after, I think there might be some relevance. John was thought to be the messiah, but he was just there to announce JC's arrival. He was also called John the Baptizer. It's a stretch, but Yohan could be seen as "baptizing" the defendants who were brought to trial. There's certainly something baptismal about his robes, and of course, that giant cross-shaped scar across his back. A literal metaphor for baring the sins of his father on his back. 

     

    John was also beheaded for rebuking a ruler who coveted his brother's wife. Foreshadowing? I doubt the drama would take it that far, but idk, we got a lot of Catholic references last episode.

     

    The reference to Elijah and Isaac are not as strong, imo. Judas is an obvious one, ofc, the fact that Gaon outed himself in this role is revealing of his character. He's a bit of a derp, self-righteous, and assuming. Perfect foil to Yohan.

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  14. Just finished episode 4, and obvious PPL aside, the main actors grounded the story with their acting. I especially love the last shot of Jisung coming out of the church. The look of shock going to grief/sadness, then rage, and the resolved look of pure vengeance as he held Elijah close. That was an amazing course in acting with your eyes. That scene alone almost makes me believe his version of the story. Or rather, I think that key moment is real, but I'm not sold on the rest of his account.

     

    The balance between the anti-hero and his foil reminds me of similar dynamics from Mouse and Beyond Evil. Even though it's like a repeating theme with kdramas lately, I think the perceived villain in this one is much more compelling. With the set up that she's going to be the villain, the reveal wasn't much of a surprise, but her domineering attitude was definitely shocking. I also find myself oddly rooting for her because she's surrounded by these gross self-serving bigoted men and she deserves better. Totally. Relatable.


    I look forward to see how this show will explore their rivalry, the bond between Yohan and Gaon, the evolving family dynamic in Yohan's household, and what kind of twists and turns we'll get.

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  15. 34 minutes ago, bedifferent said:

    Ohhh, this episode is pure comedy! hahaha

     

    I can’t can’t can’t take the action scenes seriously.  The craziness upped 2 notches for me.  CSW deadpan overacted in the escape scenes.  Mind you, they were so long, I thought they would never end. 

     

    The "This isn't the US" quote was a gem for sure, LOL. I'm sure both their legs would've been broken by now, but hey, it's not the first time where I've seen the director uses a skyscraper as a giant slide. The future is already here, and the future also defies friction and gravity, apparently!

     

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    From seeing how the technology actually works, it really is a teleportation of atoms, so far it's shaping up to what I think it's happening. But now that we have a glimpse into Seo Hae's diary, I wonder if it's not a note from her future self rather than her mom. This would explain how she doesn't seem to care for her own welfare, and terminator-ed her way out of all sorts of dangerous situations. I mean, there's also the side note that only she can save the world, blah blah blah, no pressure at all. 

     

    She also mentioned the future is a mirror of the present. There's also Tae-Sul's William Gibson quote, "The future is already here, it's just not very evenly distributed." Both allude to the concept that we are doomed to repeat our mistakes. Stray observation, there's also the symbolism of photography which uses the reflection of light to capture image.

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    I was curious about those items in Tae San's suitcase as well. Seo Hae's suitcase also had some peculiar items - a set of canisters filled with blue glowing stuff. Is this why the Control Bureau is after her? They must be critical to the time travel operation or the time traveler(s). 

     

     

     

    Whatever the case (heh), the suitcases are significant for each character.  At first, I thought all suitcases has the same setup, but each "cubby" is tailored to specifically hold their personal artifacts. This is weird enough on its own. But then, there are the technical/medical gear that seems to be integral to the smuggling. In Tae San's suitcase, there are different measuring meters and gauges, but Tae Sul doesn't seem particularly interested in those while Seo Hae's glowy pill bottles seem more important. I do wonder if they're asked to smuggle tech from future to the Sung Dong Il character.

     

    After a quick re-watch of the first episode, I think it's interesting that the Uploader flyer ads at the beginning has this slogan: "Those who don't want to live in this world/Those who are left behind in the past, welcome."

     

    This makes me wonder. Who's left behind in the past, why are they being left behind? We assumed that everyone in the future started in the future, what if they actually time traveled forward and were time traveling back instead? Maybe they time traveled to the future to escape the nuclear strike, left a bunch of love ones behind, realized that the future is horrible and would rather take their chances going back?

     

    Is this just badly translated English, or a significant clue?

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  17. Hi everyone! So many theories and we're only on episode 2!

     

    Like many of you, I have similar thoughts such as there are multiple timelines due to time travel. Like the title Sisyphus suggests, the protagonists are stuck in an eternal loop of traveling back to the past, failing, and traveling back again. The beginning shows Seo Hae's first trip to the past, and I believe we've skipped ahead of time to the present, where this is no longer her first time to the past, but another "redo" from her perspective. How many times she's travel to the past is unknown, but the next clue tells me that she's overdone it. 

     

    We find out from Tae Sul that his brother's DNA doesn't match the deceased brother's DNA. It could be that the person who the police identified as his brother isn't actually his brother. But my theory is the act of time traveling rewrites a person's DNA. Hence the geiger meters, radioactive suits, and the ID tattoos on their skin. If Seo Hae is constantly traveling back to the past, then her cells have been rewritten who knows how many times. And if her molecular structure is weakened by each rewrite, it would eventually no longer hold, and she would disappear from existence. I think this explains why she's phasing in and out of existence in episode 2.

     

    I also like that someone made the connection of the smuggler/illegal time traveling aspect of this due to the social and economical caste. Makes me wonder who has time traveled legally, and are they the ones pulling the strings behind the Control Bureau. 

     

    I agree some aspects of the drama that we expected to be rooted in reality come off as unrealistic. I understand the criticism. The editing is a bit off at times and degrades the show as cliche or cartoonish. The plane scene is a ploy to add some excitement and show off Tae Sul's genius. It's weird, but very entertaining. So I don't mind it. The DNA from ash scene is more questionable. The more realistic choice would be to simply find a strand of hair from his brother's belongings, which I understand is not as funny as raiding his brother's urn in public. I just don't think this show needs to have funny moments that feels forced. It's already established that Tae Sul comes off as flippant to cover up his psychological and emotional pain. He's Tony Stark, yadda yadda.

     

    For some strange reason, I think most Asian sci-fi shows tend to portray the protagonist this way. I call this the Sherlock Holmes syndrome. Behold the unassuming, charismatic weirdo who's actually a genius with a dark past. We see this in Jdramas A LOT (HERO, Galileo, Mr. Brain). The only sci-fi Kdrama in my memory that really does sci-fi justice with a sophisticated tone is Joseon Files (I'm still mad that they didn't get a second season). I think adding these silly and unrealistic action scenes is an ill-attempt to make sci-fi shows more palatable to the mainstream audience. And it's like... give your audience some credit. We're smart, we can figure it out. Sci-fi viewers thrive on fan theories and catching obscure clues in every little detail.

     

    That said, I'm still really invested in the characters and immersed in the story. It helps that I'm a total CSW fan as well. I think he's still finding the character, and he'll get better deeper into the episodes. I'm looking forward to it!

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  18. I'm glad they ease off the PPLs in this episode, and like that they even made fun of themselves with the coffee PPL in front of the police station. But I agreed with many that it seems choppy and not much happen to progress the main storyline. I don't think they can even justify it as non-linear storytelling or time travel, it's just poor editing, imo. I hope that it's just this episode. The preview looks very promising!

     

    As for the romance, when they're together it's cute, so they have chemistry... but i just don't feel emotional invested in them like the drama wants me to be. So the big dramatic scenes where they run into each other's arms or crying in each other's arms or even the last dramatic kiss, they feel like a Hallmark movie, beautifully shot but a bit empty.

     

    I'm interested in solving the mystery, though, and I like the cast of actors, especially WOH as Yeong and ES. I've been watching the drama at 1.5x speed lately, and normal speed for the more interesting parts. I recommend watching it like this for who just want to see what happens next but don't want to sit through the slower pace scenes and PPLs.

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  19. me and my last braincell watching this after a long day of work... trying to make sense of this episode's reveals

     

    1. LR using in between world to stop his aging... it seems to me that they can only let the worlds fast forward since time is slower in no man's land. It doesn't make sense how LG can travel back in time to save himself when time can only movd on in a linear fashion. Unless... LR's half of the flute opens another gate that reverses time. He clearly isn't using the gate that's in the palace ground. And with the theme of balance, it would make sense that his half does the opposite. When combined it allows the user to travel back and forward as he pleases.

     

    2. Time-control kid/diety... so with this writer, she always plays around with themes of destiny and fate, no surprises there. But it seems that the kid is 'fiddling' with destiny in both worlds. He first bumped into JTE making her lose her ID, then he seems to have a connection with Luna in Corea. Now he's dropping big clues for LG as well. Is he the "sage" that LG recited on his sword?

     

    3. The timestamp in the video is 5/25, that's JTE's birthday which i assume is also Luna's birthday. With the merging of the worlds, does it mean that one of them dies to replace the other? A rebirth of a new JTE who's not her, possibly Luna impersonating as her? This has been the rule with dopplegangers thus far. Two cannot exist in one world. It also seems in the preview that Eun-sup might be the next doppleganger in grave danger.

     

    3. The PPLs are really killing the drama. I feel so bad for LMH, that he has to say those cringey lines. He's a good actor, but I can't get immerse in this drama when every other scene gets interrupted with PPLs, this just feels so silly. It's an outdated method of getting sponsorship and I hope he'll stop taking on projects like this. I like the story and it's a shame that they just have to do my man like this. I heard the show even got an infamous nickname from K-netz. The King: PPL Monarch. Okay, that one is funny, it's sad, but it's fair game when they turned their main hero into a walking billboard.

     

     

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  20. I've seen fans of the show being slightly disappointed/saddened about ratings. But I honestly think the story is shaping up nicely, and have seen much social media discussion and buzz around it. So even if it doesn't generate the same amount of anticipated ratings, the show is still going to rake in earnings from international popularity.

     

    Anyway, after catching up on the last episode, I have some thoughts/theories on some of the plot points. Needless to say, spoilers ahead.

     

    1. We know that Shin-jae's real mother is definitely being blackmailed by Lee Rim by with-holding SJ from her. But why would she give up her son? I think because her husband died early, she became a single mom and widower in the parallel world. With no financial means to support a child, she took LR's offer and sent SJ over to the other world in hopes that he has a better life there with two parents who can support him.

     

    2. The theme of balance between the two worlds. We understand now that those who belong to one world shouldn't cross over to the other. It has dire affects on time and space. When Lee Gon and Lee Rim cross over, time does a funky thing of stopping, but who knows what domino effect this has in other aspects of time and space.

     

    3. Lee Gon realizes that his duty as the king and owner of the flute must restore order to the universe. To do that, they need to return the people who crossed over to their own world. This is important to the romantic plot line because he and Tae-eul instinctively understand (even though he's optimistic now and she's still in the dark about the parallel world folks switching places) that their love is going to end because they can't stay in each other's worlds.

     

    4. Combine the three plot advancement above with his tragic background, I think the time traveler who saved Lee Gon is Shin-jae. We all know that SJ has to return to the Kingdom of Corea. He's a sharper shooter than Tae-eul. His real mother was the one who stole TE's ID so maybe he's traveling back in time to right her wrongs, thus the ID ended up on him. And because he has an unrequited love for TE, he would do anything to protect her and the people she cares about, including Lee Gon. As the second lead with a sad background story, I see a strong potential for this character making the greater sacrifice to save the world.

     

    I apologize if this has already been discussed, but for once, the second-lead has a deeper, more intricate storyline. What do you guys think?

     

    Side note: 

    The Prime Minister character so far still feels completely left out of the plot. She's still several steps behind the main couple, and with her meddling in Luna's affairs, who knows what these two will brood up. We know that LR wants to use her power, but I'm not sure if he wants to threaten her with the obviously less accomplished version of her in parallel world, or perhaps use her mom to bargain for her. If she teams up with Luna and LR, then what does that mean for LG and TE?

     

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  21. I also like GJ's almost confession at the end. She just needs a little push to let her guard down. I love how HJ admits that even if she never will let her guard down, he'll continue to like her just as she is. Unfortunately, the romance came too late and not enough. More brevity would've better balanced the last two episodes which were weighted down with politics and investigation.

     

    As for Song, I still wonder how his motives are connected to his wife and his sister-in-law aka S&K's other head figure. There's a shady reason why she's in a coma, and I don't believe Song's undying devotion to her.

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  22. For once we have two actors who are pretty aggressive kissers. That's just my impression of them through the characters they play. I'm glad that GJ is letting HJ see a very vulnerable side of her. Of course, after that night, she's going back to pretend it never happened and for him to forget their past, find a nice wife, blah blah. Yeah right, lady, not after a kiss like THAT!

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  23. I just got into this drama, and like that things are picking up around ep 5 and 6. I agree with you all, that this romance is about two people who instinctively understand each other, and they have the same obsession with the truth. Although HJ is starting to suspect that GJ isn't as cold as she appeared to be, and that there are deeper reasons why she needs to be a lawyer other than money. That he wouldn't let the past go and continues to question her motives makes it clear.

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