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  1. 5 hours ago, Positively prickly cactus said:

     

    I also think they had some editing issues because surely things are being left out. Third arc was way too short to resolve all those characters developments and themes. I also think that they were walking a very fine line between wanting to make a darker, more mature fantasy show and making a fluffy, full of comedic moments to make it more appealing to the mass audiences. There are also the issues of filler characters that even though while I could also see that they all contributed to a larger theme, they could be make tighter, and again we will have to lose some of the comedy for it. 

     

    I think they took a big risk in order to commit to one of the larger themes of the show. Lingxi's arc took up to 25 episodes. Momo's arc also took 25 episodes to complete. Why? Because they are both equally important in term of that question Momo posited in episodes 50. If Mortal arc only took up a few episodes for examples, we would never care that much to fully sympathize with her when she asserted her own personhood. It's all part of the major philosophical issue of the show "what is the value of a life? And when do you sacrifice one for others? ". 

    I could tell that the production team has a vision and I see all of the larger things they were trying introduce while working within the confine of a fluffy, summer show and I guess that appealed to me. 

     

    ... To be continued... 

     

    So to go back to the major theme. It started with XiaoBai. I don't think they introduced a puppy for some cute moments and then killed it for cheap angst. That puppy was the beginning. They never tell us who killed the puppy but why it was killed was made clear enough if we read between the lines. JC was put under house arrest and would have to attend the humiliation of a public trial. The show managed to tell us that Fuyan Hall has fallen out of favour with everyone. They were not getting supplies, medicines, JC was not getting the good tea anymore. Obviously the next step would be the weakest member of his household getting picked on because his authority were no longer respected. 

     

    In the end, it's irrelevant who killed the puppy, only that it was killed because War decided to protect the Yuan's family. 

    Lingxi actually brought up XiaoBai's death to tell him that it was the cost. She also made it very clear that she didn't agree with his decision. I watched the scene on my big screen TV and War had tears in his eyes at her speech. I think it was the precursor for the dilemma of LX. 

     

    So a puppy's life for a whole clan, next step, it's Lingxi's life for the world.

     

    I know that there are people who were just annoyed that LX wasn't a butt kicking warrior but I think she was meant to be that way. Her life was meant to be worthless if you put it on a scale. She wasn't really good at anything. In term of rankings, she ranked below Yuli's bird. The only thing she had was her goodness, her total conviction that she would never fall to the dark side. In this way, it made her a perfect sacrificial lamb. All sweetness and innocent and destined to die to rid the world of sins *which the demon totally represented*

     

    .... To be continued..... 

    Sorry if I don't reply, I will totally get back to you all later, I just don't want to get side tracked. 

     

     

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  2. 14 hours ago, stella77 said:

     

    I am happy that this drama still touched many fans like you despite its minor flaws. As a long time Cdrama fan (grew up watching since the mid80’s), I don’t think it was bad at all, actually one of the better ones compared to many. For me personally, NIF still ranks number 1. Actually, it was NIF and TMOPB were two Cdramas that made me watch Cdrama again. 

     

    I also think they had some editing issues because surely things are being left out. Third arc was way too short to resolve all those characters developments and themes. I also think that they were walking a very fine line between wanting to make a darker, more mature fantasy show and making a fluffy, full of comedic moments to make it more appealing to the mass audiences. There are also the issues of filler characters that even though while I could also see that they all contributed to a larger theme, they could be made tighter, and again we will have to lose some of the comedy for it. 

     

    I think they took a big risk in order to commit to one of the larger themes of the show. Lingxi's arc took up to 25 episodes. Momo's arc also took 25 episodes to complete. Why? Because they are both equally important in term of that question Momo posited in episodes 50. If Mortal arc only took up a few episodes for examples, we would never care that much to fully sympathize with her when she asserted her own personhood. It's all part of the major philosophical issue of the show "what is the value of a life? And when do you sacrifice one for others? ". 

    I could tell that the production team has a vision and I see all of the larger things they were trying introduce while working within the confine of a fluffy, summer show and I guess that appealed to me. 

     

    ... To be continued... 

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  3. On 9/19/2019 at 10:28 AM, Rustificatedid said:

     

    Agree! One of LX’s biggest strength is - when bad things happen, she doesn’t blame anyone or get angry and hold grudges. For example when her dad Le Bo (in ep 21)... she doesn’t want revenge against YT. She laments why and she feels sad, but she doesn’t let anger control her. As Amo, she also has the same characteristic/core strength, that’s why she can overcome the 1st trial. If she had held on to anger and hatred, she would have been turned into a demon - easily controlled by the demon lord. I think that’s one of the traits that JC love most about her - her kindness and her mental clarity. 

     

    Speaking of which, she’s one of the first few Female leads in an Asian drama that doesn’t blame herself when things go south. “Oh it’s me, if I didn’t do this, then that will happen” is very common and annoying. For example, when old madam Yuan killed herself, she felt sad about it, but she told JC - yes I know it’s not my fault, it’s just really sad things ended this way 

     

    I have to admit, I am still learning to Not Think like that anymore. So I really appreciate having a strong confident lead. Although she may not be powerful and can kick richard simmons, she is mentally tough and emotionally warm and loving. The more times I rewatch this show, the more I see why JC falls for her. 

     

    I really like your comment. There are several things that been bothering me and your comment really helped me in term of solidifying my theories. 

     

    First, eps 15 when he locked her up. I didn't understand why he didn't kill her outright, but now I understand its his final test for her. He put her under duress to see if the demon aura will come out of her. Lingxi isn't dumb, she knows something was wrong but she keeps on trying to find excuses for him. The fact that she doesn't have hate in her heart plus her complete trust in him keeps her sane. So at the risk of her life, she still doesn't let hate and anger control. We will see it in the second arc again when she chooses to forgive rather than to hold on to grudges. 

     

    Spoiler

    Her demon aura only comes out when people she cares about are being hurt. The first time is when the Heaven devouring beasts were killed. And the 2nd time is when the Celestial court created an illusion that her dad and her brother were killed. 

     

    That answers my other concern of *is she a strong female charater*. And I think I can firmly say "yes" now because, having the mental clarity to see the situation and choosing to forgive is an incredibly strong thing to do. People are complaining that Lingxi character is always a damsel in distress, that they are disappointed that she just doesn't become an @ss-kicking warriors and stomp her way through heaven. But in real life, we can't all be @ss-kicking warrior. Her being a victim of a situation outside of her control does not make her weak. She is a strong character because of her mental fortitude, her clarity, her compassion. Her strength came from within not from kicking butts. And that is something we would see in real life, women overcoming incredible amount of hardships in their lives and still do not fall into pieces, still have hope and love in their hearts, still live their life fully. They are strong and Lingxi is strong. 

     

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  4. 2 hours ago, Vals Stor said:

     

     

    hahahahhah thanks a lot!

     

    So CC didnt want anymore kissing ha? poor guy! :joy:

    No no, he meant, just kissing like that is not fun lol. He wanted to have other moves, if you know what I mean, *winks winks* Just kissing is too tame for him. 

     

    You know, I just realised something. In the interview, the script writer said "Chang Chen leaves the audience wanting more". Omg, It's true, we are all here because we want more of him, of Ni Ni and their story.

     

    @springfiry can I do a shameless self promo? 

    https://possitivelypricklycactus.tumblr.com/post/187756989656/an-au-plot-bunny

    I didn't write per se, I made a plot bunny but it has plenty of photos. Come take a look if you want

     

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  5. 9 hours ago, Flor123 said:

    So for those who actually speak the language, does the "cheesiness" of the lines come off as cheesy or just right? Sometimes we do loose something in the translation or it comes off as something else...I don't know if that makes sense...still, its one of my favorite scenes. 

    I think there was a BTS here where they were both cringing, and laughing over the cheesiness of the lines, so yes I think it was cheesy in all languages. Hahah

    Found it. 

     

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  6. 5 hours ago, fivebowls said:

     

    Love your analysis from the architectural perspective.  What you said about the many doors in Fu Yun Dian, the open floor plan in Gonjuyan, and how once you are allowed in Gonjuyan, you are in, are very insightful.  Also really like what you said about the delicate screen inside symbolizing JC’s sensitive interior.  There is a previous post here about the red tree in Fu Yun Dian symbolizing JC’s inner emotions.  Would love to hear more from you.  Whenever I read great analysis about the show, I just want to rewatch episodes to discover more on my own.

     

    I find that if I watch the show on a big screen TV, CC’s facial features look better in general than on the iPad.  It’s a pity that the lighting/cinematography isn’t better like Rise of the Phoenix (loved the acting, sets and cinematography, but just didn’t care as much about the characters).  I don’t know much about tv drama production, but I assume that show probably had a bigger budget.  However, based on the bts, interviews, and specials I’ve watched, the L&D production team clearly put in a lot of care.

    Oh I think I mentioned in the comment as well that I'm fully aware that the show production team put a lot of thoughts and care into it. I mean, great set designs like these just didn't happen by chance. Lots of love and passion as well. And they must have spent tonnes of money. The sets just don't look cheap. Not to mentioned the costumes. Omg Jiu Chen is probably the most well dressed male lead in a drama. He probably has 30+ costume for 60 episodes. Same with Lingxi. 

    Yeah, in case you haven't noticed, I'm here because even after the show has ended, I'm still obsessed and not ready to let go. This is also the first mainland Cdrama that I have sit through without turning it off within a few minutes. I only watched TMOP while waiting for this show lol, and even then I skimmed alot. I didn't even finished. 

    So yeah, I love this show so much that sometimes I just wished certain things could have been done better. That's all. 

     

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  7. 8 hours ago, xunxine said:

    In an interview w/ Nini she was asked if she had any rebuttal to the statement that she & Chang Chen doesn't have the CP feels - she said there's no need for her to rebuttal because Cheng-ge will be the first one to disagree.  LOL!  

     

    Chang Chen eyes are expressive sometimes you may have missed when watching on mobile device (small screen), gifs for you to indulge 

     

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    oh and the bed scene for repeated viewing :) he did warn her not to play around or it’ll get dangerous ~ indeed it did haha

     

     

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    The third and the last gifs are the best. The lighting on those highlights his angular, chiselled bone structure. The way the shadow falls across the planes of his face, it creates depth and dimensions. He looks so good in those gifs. Contrast that to the weirdly filtered 2nd gif where it softened his skin and features, and the second to last one where the lighting just flatten the angles of his face. *sighs*

    I think I mentioned on the other blog that Chang Chen's acting is so good that sometimes I wished the cinematography and the direction could have stood up to his caliber. It was such a pity because Rise of the Phoenix proved that you can have good lighting and cinematography in a TV series. 

    @blueclueblue Joan P over that blog is your truly. *bows*

    There is another part, that I posted on the comment section of eps 9 where I talked about the world building on this show. 

    http://dr-myri-blog.blogspot.com/2019/08/love-destiny-episode-9-recap.html?m=1

     

    I fully intent to go deeper into the analysis of the set design because there are still plenty that I didn't mention. The rock in his bedroom for example.

     

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  8. 1 hour ago, Positively prickly cactus said:

    Yeah, the English speakers would miss the subtleties of how his pronouns change is indicative of how he feels about a person. I mean JC is normally polite but also very haughty. Reminds me of those old time European aristocrats. If you richard simmons him off, he wouldn't hesitate to cut you and pull rank on you. Like with Old Lady Yuan, when he first saw her again at the banquet, he walked over to greet her politely, after her conduct at the banquet, he was all "Ben zun" with her. Same with the queen of the West, he behaved with perfect conducts, but after she invaded his place and hurt Lingxi, he dropped his sword on her and pulled the "Ben zun" again, which is basically a royal "we" on her. And then after the interrogation of Lingxi, he just snubbed her, walked straight pass her without even a glance. I was so gleeful. 

    Speaking of old time aristocrats, can you imagine an AU fanfiction where he is a Royal Duke, or maybe a Russian Prince and she is just a simple country maid, the daughter of a minor gentry or something, and they fall in love? 

    Him looking like this

    https://images.app.goo.gl/hHLt5tFkzxfdZ63KA

    And her looking like this

    https://images.app.goo.gl/eZqLxSyTszDp4rSm8

    And there would be horse drawn sled  in the snow, a la War and Peace. And him holding her face in his beautiful hands, tenderly kissing her? Omg * fan self* they are driving me crazy with their chemistry and I'm not ready for the show to end. I want more.... I just can't stop my mind from creating these crazy scenarios lol

    :lol: hahah. 

  9. Yeah, the English speakers would miss the subtleties of how his pronouns change is indicative of how he feels about a person. I mean JC is normally polite but also very haughty. Reminds me of those old time European aristocrats. If you richard simmons him off, he wouldn't hesitate to cut you and pull rank on you. Like with Old Lady Yuan, when he first saw her again at the banquet, he walked over to greet her politely, after her conduct at the banquet, he was all "Ben zun" with her. Same with the queen of the West, he behaved with perfect conducts, but after she invaded his place and hurt Lingxi, he dropped his sword on her and pulled the "Ben zun" again, which is basically a royal "we" on her. And then after the interrogation of Lingxi, he just snubbed her, walked straight pass her without even a glance. I was so gleeful. 

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  10. I really don't like how Viki team translate ShenZun as Senior Deity. It sounds, might I say it, "old" and awkward. Or too high schoolish. 

    Much prefer the "my lord" and "ShenZun" that the YouTube translator used. Or even Supreme God or Honorable God is better. 

    I mean, sometimes 13 and and Lingxi would say "our ShenZun" and if they use that or "our Lord", it's more endearing that just "senior deity". Also they translated The God of Thunder's title as "true emperor" lol, so who is the fake emperor ? Is his title higher than the Heavenly emperor since he is the true one? :sweatingbullets:. I kid

    But I wish they had a general editor who would fix all that

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  11. 7 hours ago, blueclueblue said:

    On my first viewing, I thought Qing Yao and Yun Feng scenes was nicely balance, but now that I'm rewatching the whole series, I feel like they have too many scenes.  I actually prefer to have more of Yun Feng and Jiu Chen, Qing Yao and Jiu Chen scenes.  I am just not that emotionally vested in Yun Feng and Qing Yao love story 2nd time around so I forwarded all of their scenes and there are just way too many of them.

     

    Anyone here noticed that they pay homage to Chang Chen and Gong Li's short movie Eros: Hand with the measurement scenes in ep40.

    Yes, I grinned as well because the scriptwriter is a such Chang Chen fangirl and she wrote the script specifically with him in mind to play Jiu Chen. Maybe I can do the article translation on the weekend if you guys want it. 

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  12. Guys, I have something amazing to add. You know in the bed scene, mid action, she said "let's get married" right? Which cues a reaction shot from him that confused me a little. But I have been deep diving in Chinese fandom, and somebody there, some-very smart-body, slowed down the frame rate, read her lips and apparently the line is "let's lay an egg together". They just dubbed it in differently. So the reaction shot makes sense. And they were talking about laying egg in the Peach forest. And earlier in the bed scene, JC already got a confirmation from her that she would marry him. Why would she said it again mid-kiss. LOL I love how bold LX is. 

    Oh, in Douban, they either called it the "egg laying" scene or the "crushing the galaxy" scene. 

    They also did a bit of detective works and quickly concluded that in the family photo, there is hint that LX is pregnant again. 

     

    https://niniaday.tumblr.com/post/187270039386

    Edit to add the family photo link

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  13. I've always thought Zhang Zi Yi wooden so I really don't see what they are talking about her outshining him. Not even bring out out the big guns like Gong Li or those old time Hong Kong actresses, of her age range, so many are much better, Zhou Xun for example. 

    I think in this drama, there are some moments where he was not as natural and I blame it on him not used to TV film making but scenes that require nuances he was so great. It's in the eyes, and the comparison with Tony Leung were apt enough. They both got beautiful, very expressive eyes. The last scene where he was holding his family in his arms and the way he looked at her just broke my heart. There was tenderness but also much pain and sadness about them, you can just imagine the things he went through to get back to her. 

    After that scenes, I took it as a bittersweet ending, there is noway he was as unscathed as his smile showed

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