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  1. That's what some fans were speculating, I agree that the 2nd voice doesn't sound like KJK's.

    RM members at the airport heading to Indonesia for the fanmeeting. SJH's outfit seems KJK-inspired again. There are many photographs and some videos online, so far I've seen the rest members walking together but SJH and KJK are pictured separately.



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  2. The contrast with the others is striking. Look at So Min and the rest members not paying attention, while Ji Hyo leans over him concerned. I don't know how people can be blind and deny the possibility they are a couple or the fact their bond is as close as it gets when , throughout the years, there's an abundance of similar moments.



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  3. By the way, we can confirm now that SJH's shirt is not the one KJK has worn before, because there is no print on the back. No big deal, it's always good to keep our theories checked so we can focus on the actual evidence. Besides, contrary to the VANS shoes, wearing the same, unique shirt on the same show only a few episodes apart would have been a dead giveaway of their relationship and, thus, not a risk they would likely take.  :)

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  4. 17 minutes ago, Cheii1416 said:

    Preview from episode today hehehehe look at their hands hehehehe . Im soo excited . 

    No idea what triggered their mirroring each other again in the first picture, but they look adorable and very coupley.


    Also I'm reading on multiple accounts that their dialogue went like this:


    KJK: "Song Ji Hyo doesn’t know men.”
    SJH: "I know men well!”

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  5. KJK's hair is often a good way to date pictures and videos :lol: Here, for example, both the style and colour are different from what he currently has. At least I always go by his hair to estimate when a photo was taken, since I haven't watched yet all RM episodes, nor I'm aware of every photoshoot or show KJK appeared in before RM.

  6. I have a slightly more cynical opinion about the hand holding + hug. I think it's the same type of embrace like when two people high five or grab each other's hands and then do the hug-bump, which is not an uncommon way of greeting, especially in the West. Of course the way KJK does with SJH differs from how he would greet a mate. It is more affectionate as clearly shown in the video, despite the downpour. I just don't think the hug and the hand holding are separate motions chosen individually (the scene would be even more romantic if they were separate), but rather parts of the same greeting, which still here assumes an intimate tone considering how dearly KJK holds her hand onto his chest.


    Also, regarding the songs, I think KJK made the better choice because even though both songs are for those totally in-love, Unconditional perhaps suits Spartace a tad more than Love Battery. Essentially, Love Battery describes someone who is lonely and out of energy and needs their significant other's love to fill up, even if that person isn't objectively pretty, what matters is that they are perfect in their eyes. On the other hand, Unconditional speaks about a kind of love that knows no boundaries, where the lovers will run to each other at any given time needed, something they won't necessarily do if other people call them.Neither the place plays a role, they will still reach their chosen one even if they are oceans apart, just like the lyrics say "Even across the Pacific , even across the Atlantic, even across the Indian ocean". And we all know how often Spartace spend their time oceans apart due to their obligations or due to KJK being in L.A. which is, ahem, over the Pacific. Such a funny coincidence :)

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  7. One more compilation video edited by kjksaaa, including the 3 hugs & subtitles, from KJK pointing at SJH while singing "Loveable", to the high-5 + side-hug at end and SJH mentioning later how KJK scolded her for wanting to sing Love Battery, suggesting Unconditional instead. Especially this last bit of info shows how closely they prepared for this event.



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  8. Really thankful for all the different angles Spartace is captured in!


    9 hours ago, spartaceluv98 said:

    No i won't talk about the fact that jk hyung hugged jihyo noona (or else some antis/lurkers will say "he hugs our bias too" :huh:)

    Can I talk about it since I'm neither an anti nor a lurker? :lol: I'll use the spoiler tag so anyone not interested can skip it.



    KJK would acknowledge any male or female friend joining his performance. If in SJH's place was JSM (or HJY or any lady he worked with before) , I believe he would hug her too. It would be brief and either during her introduction or their parting, just like the last SA hug in yesterday's event. I have no doubt he would pat JSM's back like that too, as he has done in the past, and you are right in saying that it isn't the hug itself that makes the Spartace moment stand out, but rather the circumstances surrounding it.


    But if KJK dated every person he hugged, he would be engaging polyamory by now (I mean...not that I exclude that either, at the end of the day, who knows what is happening behind K-entertainment industry's closed doors, right?). Seriously though, every single KJK/JSM hug that I am aware of has happened right under the focus of the camera and was a direct result of an incident during a show (i.e. a win in a game, a dance etc.) Spartace have had similar moments too, and how could they not after working together for 9 years, however Spartace have also embraced at the background of scenes for reasons unrelated to the shows, as well as during "off screen" time. Whereas KJK/JSM demonstrate the hug, SA are caught doing it. This is a huge difference, no matter if some RM fans choose to ignore it.


    In episode 457, Kook shows up later than the rest. In his own initiative, he briefly pauses and side-hugs JSM, they also pat each other's backs in a very colleague-style manner. Again, SA have had such non-intimate moments too, but most of us wouldn't be their shippers if their relationship didn't expand beyond them. Now, KJK only hugs one lady of the fellowship, he doesn't do the same with SJH even though he is always a gentleman with both. The answer is simple; it's JSM the one he probably hasn't met between two consecutive shootings, not SJH. If JSM was already his significant other, he would have no reason at all to greet her like this, if she was a woman he is interested in, the last thing he would do would be finding excuses to indiscreetly sneak an arm around her during the intro segment when every camera is lined up and hardly anything can be concealed. This instance differs from Spartace seen walking in each other's arms before lining up for the intro part in episode 372. 


    The fact KJK/JSM don't really meet often outside of RM - not at least as regularly as two people falling in love would - is actually supported by their very IG/phone interactions that caused frustration to some people for no reason. Why would she jokingly invite him for coffee if they are already going out? She would be lowkey teasing him for innocuous incidents taking place in their dates instead. Why would she choose to invite him literally in the middle of the public eye if she had serious romantic expectations from him? KJK is a ridiculously private guy when it comes to relationships, any female working close to him for at least two years like JSM would respect that. If she can be slightly assertive towards him, it's cause their interaction is strictly friendly and her suggestions "innocent". And  they probably aren't going to be fulfilled the next day anyway.



    Back to SA, another fun detail:



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  9. Our ship literally faced the storm yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed themselves :lol: Since this August signals our SA's 10-years-on-screen anniversary, maybe we should celebrate it lol


    All the new members, welcome! And all the returning veterans, welcome back! Is it soompi's purging the old accounts or the wonderful SA moments we have been getting lately that caused this surge of SA fans? Perhaps both? :)


    Regarding the lyrics of the song coinciding with SJH's introduction, it's further interesting how KJK noticed her before singing that part, not during or right after it. He could have skipped said lyric at that point and introduced her,  instead he finishes it and skips the next verse. I do think that the heavy rain didn't leave him much space for thought, which means that even though this was indeed a sweet coincidence, still KJK (and everyone) was overall more spontaneous.

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  10. We should play a "pick your favourite hug" game at some point, over the years they've been so many  :lol:


    Among the three new hugs, the "saranghae" one stands out. The rest two are precious moments as well, but while those can be justified by KJK acknowledging a friend who has joined his performance (even though he doesn't do the same with Haha), the third hug comes spontaneously right at the moment they share the love with the fans and pass them the mic. The habit of the RM members doing this every time they sing "Loveable" in their events  + the overwhelming downpour SA experienced together + the tendency SA have in expressing themselves with physical contact, all factored in their closing in and hugging so naturally. And still, Haha wasn't included, even though doing a group hug the moment they and audience mutually sing "I love you" would have made sense. Therefore, I feel this hug was slightly more personal.


    This level of interaction is basically as much as they can show when on stage, without becoming undeniably suspicious, whether they are friends or lovers as they wouldn't want to create further rumours in either case. What possibly promotes the second scenario is that they could have made their lives easier by avoiding standing out as a duo among the rest RM members, yet they don't do it. If they are indeed a couple, I honestly don't know how all this tip toeing around each other for years while wavering between fuelling and shutting down rumours will help them, I just hope these choices will not have much of a negative impact in the long run. Actually, considering how controlling and horrid the industry they work in is, I doubt every choice is theirs. What appears to be certain is that they can't announce their relationship before RM ends, it would change the show's dynamic completely.

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  11. We'll never know so everything is hypothetical. But I think if they are not separate, unrelated pairs of shorts, then it's more likely she borrowed his own pair, rather than they bought the same shorts in different sizes as "couple garments".


    I don't rule out the possibility, but to me this pair of shorts she is wearing in this event doesn't seem to be her ideal size. It also differs from the short pants she usually wears. And, though this is merely a guess, I think if they were to choose "couple garments", they would go for something else, waterproof shorts just doesn't sound as memorable as matching shirts or shoes or even caps. Also, the whole habit of buying matching clothes can be tricky when it comes to celebrities, because they have stylists deciding their outfits and companies sponsoring them. I'm not convinced for example that every time  they wore "couple shoes" during the same RM event, it always was their own deliberate choice. But this instance is different, especially due to the weather conditions, it resembles more the past case @saissuspicious mentioned.

    One thing is certain, whether the pair of shorts is one and the same, or it is the same style bought twice as "couple shorts", the implication is clear; Spartace is validated as a couple. Yes good friends may also share the same taste and buy the same clothes, but they usually choose something more unique and memorable. And if their shorts are totally different and our assumptions are wrong, no big deal, there's a big pile of evidence that supports Spartace and it grew higher tonight.

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  12. I am going to wade into much theorizing now, so bear with me. You know how it has already been pointed out how SJH and KJK wear similar neon lime shorts.



    When I first read it, I thought to myself "cute observation, but I hope fans don't start claiming they are actually the same". However, the more I rationalize it, the more likely the possibility turns.


    1. Both shorts have a similar black cord. While KJK's cord seems stretched, SJH's is hanging long even after having been tied, which makes sense if she had to tighten a larger pair of shorts around her slimmer waist.


    2. Her shorts look rather baggy, especially at the crotch and around thighs. KJK's shorts on the other hand look the opposite, though it would have been better if he was standing cause the sitting position always makes pants look narrower.


    3. Both pairs of shorts have the same vertical, yellow seam on the crotch. Other fans have posted further zoomed in photos where this clue is more apparent.


    4. Since (at least) one day prior, they all knew the event would take place under rain. It sort of makes sense if SJH prepared for it with an outfit suitable to get soaked, just like what KJK would wear in a pool.


    5. This pair of shorts, the loose type that isn't too short, nor is it almost knee length, doesn't really look her style. While I've seen her plenty of times with different style shorts, especially skimpier ones, I don't remember her wearing often similar pairs to this yellow one. However, I am a new SA fan, so it is possible I am wrong and she has been sighted wearing them regularly. The one who without a doubt wears such shorts all the time is KJK.


    6. "But the two pairs are obviously a different shade of yellow/lime." No, not necessarily. KJK's photo is processed. Everything, from the water in the pool to the leaves on the trees behind him, is filtered to look darker. In reality, his shorts should be a bit lighter. Moreover, the two photos are taken under completely different lighting, so comparing the colours isn't the safest bet. 


    Because I don't like being delusional, there are at least two points against the above theory.


    1. KJK's buttocks are much bigger than SJH's and in the videos her shorts don't really look baggy enough on the rear. Again it would have been helpful if KJK was standing in his photo, so we could get a better idea of how narrow or not his shorts are.


    2. I am not certain but KJK's shorts seem to have a belt loop on the waistline. I've tried to check if there's something similar on SJH's shorts, but I am unable to spot one, mainly because zooming in while she jumps doesn't help, the videos are already blurry.


    So, what do you think? To clarify, I still lean mostly towards the opinion that they are different pairs of shorts. It's just that, after thinking about it carefully, the notion she borrowed his shorts doesn't seem improbable anymore. It goes without saying that if they are indeed Kook's shorts, then our ship is triumphantly confirmed.



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  13. Damn, the video had to go all blue-grey/cut right at the hug :rolleyes: He could have just high 5ived her like he did with Haha, yet he went for an embrace. And I don't think KJK hugging her has to do anything with his leaving earlier, I'm not rejecting the possibility, but celebrities "farewell" one another all the time on stage - just like they welcome one another even though they have been getting ready together backstage long before they greet the audience. I'm sure KJK didn't go to Pohang only for a 30 mins show, SJH would literally be done with her part within the same hour. So unless we get an update that he rushed to leave straight after his performance, I believe they met again later.


    Regarding the photo with the guy at the back resembling KJK, would it be too tactless if someone asked the person who uploaded it whether it was indeed KJK? I don't see anything wrong with it, if the question doesn't associate him with SJH. Posture and clothes do point at KJK, not sure about the skin colour as I think KJK is more tanned, but this can be easily explained by the lighting, camera lens etc. Plus I sort of distinguish a bulging rear. However, I saw in the background of another photo unrelated to SA, a guy similarly dressed - black shorts, white top with what seems to be text + transparent raincoat. I am not saying it is him, just that there might be more people around who fit the description. I'm linking the photo under the spoiler tag.





    2 hours ago, Regita M. P said:

    Dear some SA Shippers who is mad / sad / upset


    Though I sometimes understand disappointment, I can't sympathize with anyone who is angry over nothing, especially if it has to do with KJK's right in enjoying his personal life as a normal , social being. In order to "get mad", people have to either be immature (perhaps due to young age) or come from a rather conservative environment where every interaction between a man and a woman is deemed suspicious. 


    Addressing this in brief, the JSM/KJK interaction on IG:


    1. Is too public  to be considered suspicious. Celebrities like KJK who always keep the identity of their partners hidden don't just casually invite each other out right before everyone's eyes, in an IG environment where every single colleague, fan and troll can comment. And because I keep reading idiotic arguments that they are slowly revealing their nonexistent romance, all fans literally claim this every time their idols exchange the slightest teasing remark. According to this logic, KJK should have revealed a dozen of relationships by now, not just one.


    2. Is literally friendly, I read every single line, nothing was out of the ordinary. KJK would have to stop interacting with all unmarried females for people not to take everything he does or says way out of context.  Also, JSM was doing a LIVE, when a person is doing a LIVE they are basically exposing themselves and their ideas/projects to comments and critique. It was an invitation for people to interact with her, which includes friends teasing her. What should KJK do? Just write her name along with exclamation marks? He is not a fan.


    3. More importantly, a bunch of people were talking to her and she was replying to them. There were other celebrities too among them, Kim Ji-Seok actually commented several times. But, of course, JSM/KJK fans only highlighted the interaction with KJK and I don't blame them, Spartace fans would have done the same. But, seriously, this doesn't excuse the latter fans buying into every shipdom's interpretation and fragmentary presentation of incidents involving Kook.


    I would actually make a comparison with the past calls to SJH during KJK's own LIVEs to show you why his interactions with both are platonic when based only on the things they said, however the calls to SJH start standing out as fishy when other details are taken into account. But this post is already too long and this topic of secondary importance when we have such awesome Spartace news tonight.


    So, everyone, wise-up and keep enjoying the Spartace interactions in tonight's event. They will forever remember that time they sang and danced under heavy rain, splashing each other while persistent fans cheered them on. It was such a memorable evening and I lowkey expect them to mention its hilarity later on one of their shows. And btw "Loveable" is definitely their song. Not that there was ever any doubt about it after their consistently performing it together no matter the occasion, but this time they literally defied mother nature to do so. :lol:

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  14. The weather is no joke. More links under the spoiler tag. Even if the sky is grey, let's hope the rain will stop by the time KJK appears.

    Credits as indicated, since this is not a reposting, please contact the accounts below if you think the credits are wrong.


    (btw is back-to-back posting allowed? Anyone knows?)







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  15. 21 minutes ago, elzy said:


    May I give a little bit correction.

     The reason I said Haha will take the mic along SJH was exactly why I wasn't sure what they will do on stage. I wasn't specifically saying they will sing together, I was mostly explaining why - in my opinion - she can't appear during KJK's segment. The part " On the other hand, SJH has performed before with Haha & co." refers to her dancing to Gashina etc before in contrast with what I said about KJK. Nevetheless, I can see how the sentence can be interpreted in more ways, so I should have used the word "appeared" instead of "performed" when using SJH's name. Thanks for bringing it up.

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  16. So, who's excited for tomorrow? :D It is raining in Pohang and will be rainy tomorrow too, but everyone is still going so, what to expect? Wet Spartace? :lol:


    KJK will be on stage 5 mins to 6 pm and 30 mins later it will be time for Haha's team to take the mic along with SJH. This line up makes sense, it's not an event of RM or a Turbo concert, KJK's songs are mostly ballads, thus not the most suitable for a co-performance with a non singer - well unless you want dating rumours to skyrocket. On the other hand, SJH has performed before with Haha & co.


    (edit: to clarify, I'm referring to the old performance only, I had no idea what she would be doing tonight, so thanks @elzy for pointing out it's an interview)


    Nevertheless, there's a lot to expect and hopefully the weather won't stand as much of an obstacle. The fact Haha and SJH appear right after KJK keeps the possibility of their sharing the stage open, perhaps while KJK is passing the torch to them or at the end of Haha's performance, if time permits it. The schedule is a bit tight, but that also means more backstage interaction as KJK will definitely be sticking around, the three of them are set to appear in the span of just one hour. Even if they don't share the stage at all, there also are photographs and videos to expect, taken by media and fans, hopefully capturing what we usually don't see on screen. Spartace and Haha may also grace us with their own selfies and IG updates. And last but not least, references to this event and their time together may always occur later, during RM and other shows they star in.

    But you know, even though I doubt it, still if we don't get the special moments we hope for, one thing is certain; Spartace will be making memories together. Be it as friends or lovers, the result doesn't change. They will attend the same fun event, possibly travel there together too and will spend most of their time in each other's company. And whether we will have visual access to these moments or not means absolute zero for their existence. :D

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  17. I thought there was no doubt Haha says love line and not "in love", since love line is an English phrase, at least those of us who don't know Korean, can make that one out clearly. Chul Min repeats right after "love line?". I even saw people, who apparently speak Korean, transcribing the dialogue on IG and they used the words "love line". This is why I asked - in case anyone more accustomed to Korean TV than I am knew -  whether love line  strictly refers to an on screen romance or it can be used interchangeably with "in love" as a general term.


    I think there's a difference, it just isn't related to Spartace per se, but to JSM's perspective when referring to Spartace. She might have actually meant that if it's the show's lovelines they were talking about , Spartace should qualify more than her and JSJ, considering that until a couple of months ago Spartace was under a romantic spotlight on screen. If this scene had happened back in February, we would have probably added JSM's question to the long list of teasing remarks coming from the RM members. It draws additional attention now because it comes during an apparent pause of the supposed love line, while Spartace are reversed to their usual intimate interaction in the sidelines. Also the fact that her covering her mouth doesn't come right after she blurts out Spartace names, instead there's a 2 seconds interval, means that this gesture might have indeed been a reaction to the members teasing JSJ about a loveline with her. It ties up well with how casually she asks about Spartace, she does it so naturally because SA being the show's couple is the expected answer. So I have my doubts she was attempting to cover a tongue slip.


    Obviously, this interpretation doesn't affect Spartace's status as a real couple, I just feel the need to emphasize this in case anyone reads my post and jumps to the illogical conclusion that if JSM had the SA loveline in mind, then SA are a fake couple. SA romance on and off screen aren't mutually exclusive, over the years there has been an abundance of evidence to support the latter and as for the former, the PDs would want to exploit it regardless.

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  18. I need to ask something regarding the bus scene, is there a difference between saying that two people are in love , as the subtitles read, and two people are in a love line, as they're apparently saying? Or can they use the two sentences interchangeably? Because in my head there is a difference, I thought the term love line had to do with on screen romances regardless of their actual status, but I am not Korean. I'm asking in case JSM is suggesting that the two people in a love line are KJK and SJH (instead of her and JSJ) and her covering of the mouth is due to JSJ unfastening his seatbelt (which would lead to JSJ's accepting the implication he is in a love line with her). To clarify, this doesn't affect the romantic nature of Spartace, I'm just trying to understand from what perspective JSM asked about Spartace, the show's or in general.

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