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13 minutes ago, jingjaja said:
PSJ treat pmy don't different than another his co star before. He is a gentleman and always cares about the feelings of colleagues. He is therefore loved by everyone and staff in every past project.
He is honest with his feelings as he says he is straightforward if he would love someone.
For me, his interview is the most obvious thing about his feelings for her. Which is different from that he had previously interviewed.
My thoughts exactly. I'm relatively new to K-ent and I've never heard of PSJ before WWWSK (though I've heard of PMY before) but his answers in his interviews and even his body language in the bts were very telling.
5 hours ago, tali58 said:Is that what the blue heart means? Is the meaning widely known? I have friends who use it randomly, or in combination with other colors of hearts.
Yes, each color has a meaning which I learned recently thanks to my ex lol. *embarrassing*
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3 hours ago, tali58 said:
#34 had been worn by some of the greatest baseball players to ever play the game. Some fans instantly think David Ortiz, Felix Hernandez or Bryce Harper, but for those who are very great fans of baseball, #34 will always be Kirby Puckett (one on the greater home run hitters ever, or Nolan Ryan, still considered one of the greatest pitchers to ever play the game.) PSJ is a huge baseball fan, and he also plays it, obviously. I think women who aren't into sports just don't understand the significance of the number on a jersey or uniform. When my son played soccer, he only wore #4 in all the years he played. My uncle played professional soccer, always wearing the number that was significant to him. My brother who played and coached.... same thing. Athletes are superstitious about the number on their uniform. If they have to change it for some reason, like PSJ had to, they'll choose a new one that's as close as possible to the one they had before or pick another one with significance *in the sport*. I have it on male athletes authority that picking a uniform number that's the birthday of your significant other is something a woman would do, not a man. (Although, interestingly, some players will use their kids' birthdays!
) So I think women fans are wrong about PSJ's uniform # as a "clue," and that his explanation is the truth.
Hey, @tali58! I gotta admit I'm not exactly a sports enthusiast as I usually just watch NBA and while I get you, I think having BJH's and PMY's birthday on his jersey at the time he was/is rumored to be dating them is definitely more than a "coincidence" don't you think? That's 2 out of 2. LOL. Who knows? Having his gf's birthday on his uniform could be his lucky number as that person is definitely significant to him.
And looks like everyone here is saying the same thing too.
2 hours ago, fasiou said:Yeah, i agree with you dear friend, i think every clue that everyone found about ppc dating are and is just coinsidence and made everything messed up for ppc, i dont know but i hope real clues come to us and as i said people cant hide love if they are truely in love, i pray all my friends here become happiest with reliable hints and clues bc i used to be a fan of a couple a few years ago and it was just a delusional feeling but it seemed so real to us back then bc of some ig pics or somethings like these, but this time for ppc i really pray to God great and real news come to us and saves us from every unreal and delusional clues bc this ship is so pure and lovely. God bless ppc and all their lovely fans.
Yep. None of this is sure proof of course but looking for patterns is definitely more objective than relying on tarot cards and fortune tellers who can guess but never actually determine the future.
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1 hour ago, Nafta Lia said:
The picture was taken in Hongkong, it mean there were two possibilities at that time. Is Dasom someone who close with psj n pmy'? Or Dasom is just ordinary Korean who Saw psj n pmy' in Hongkong at that time? Idk...
I doubt someone "close" would out them. That wouldn't make sense considering they're trying to keep it a secret and even their WWWSK cast members like Chansung denied knowing/noticing anything special going on between them so this person is obviously just someone who possibly saw them together and was brave enough to tag/mention PSJ just like those rumors of Koreans who saw them in a salon.
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19 minutes ago, twoparkcouple said:
Nov 2016, psj changed his uniform number to pmy birthday
Nov 2016, psj adopted the same breed dog and named Simba(same meaning pmy's dog name)
Dec 2016, someone tagged psj in pmy IG
Dec 2016, psj said in an interview as if he has gf who is a celeb
hmmmm...
There you go! So he adopted Simba in Nov 2016. It's safe to say their serious relationship started at least a few months before he adopted Simba. It's possible they had a some relationship in 2015 (as there are some good clues circulating online in 2015) and decided to take things to the next level the following year. Though I'm doubtful why they would risk getting caught "flirting" online in 2015 if it wasn't serious that year yet hmmm...
11 minutes ago, Matilda_Anne said:who is this b.dasommmm? @twoparkcouple
He's a random guy who supposedly saw PSJ with PMY at the time this picture was taken that's why he tagged/mentioned his name in the photo above. His account is a private account (or went private after tagging PSJ) so fans were all the more curious why he would do that when there was no "clear" connection between PSJ & PMY yet since this was pre-WWWSK.
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1 hour ago, Matilda_Anne said:
no such thing as personal space when it comes to these two.. lol
question for everyone here: would you guys share a cushion with someone who is not ur bf?
If you like the guy and you are "flirting" with each other then yes! Also, if you are in the initial stage of "getting to know" each other and you want to kind of show the guy where you stand in terms of a potential relationship, that's another yes!
One thing is for sure though, if a girl is not comfortable with a guy or isn't at least somehow attracted to him, she will definitely keep her distance especially if the guy is coming on too strong.
8 hours ago, Inetz said:To be honest I was never convinced about the 3 years rumors esp if only based from matching clothes which is pretty common in their world where k-stars always receive gifts from brand or sponsors so it doesn't mean anything.
But I started to change my mind when I read that PSJ's baseball shirt was first spotted on nov 2016 and if it's not a coincidence that he wore number 34 then it means he was already dating her...I mean you do that kind of thing when you are at a certain level of the relationship...not at the flirting phase, you need a certain level of confidence to do that. That's a meaningful move. I can't point out the right timing for sure, but my guess is they might start dating end 2015 or early 2016.
It's also good if someone could cite when PSJ adopted Simba since that would be a good indicator of when their "serious" relationship started. Adopting dogs is usually a pretty good indicator of how serious a relationship is and even though PMY got Leon in 2015 getting the same breed and naming it in similar fashion is not coincidence imo.
I also don't think the jersey number is a mere coincidence since he did the same for his ex and yes, you only do that, if you are in a serious relationship otherwise you will keep changing your jersey number almost like meeting the parents lol.
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7 minutes ago, parkparkloveu said:
I have been to Australia this is Australia and also look at his hair shorter with a bit of color.
Same. I’ve been there several times. Australia and New Zealand.
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13 minutes ago, jingjaja said:
I'm not sure. But this kind of electric pole is like in Thailand. Including the patterns of tables, chairs and trees are like in Thailand too.
It may not be Phuket. But it is possible that in Thailand.
It's the same in Australia. Trust me, some of their cities have a tropical vibe.
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I'm still having a problem uploading a pic here. Anyway, if you look at the post behind him (the one next to the plants), it's got English letters on it. As far as I remember from my trip to Thailand a couple of years back, they seldom have English signage. Also, lots of Australian cities have a "Southeast Asian" vibe to them such as Brisbane/Brissy for instance. It's also summer there right now so the pic might be from Australia. Just my guess though.
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28 minutes ago, twoparkcouple said:
most k-stars are dating with someone now.(if they are not a priest
) it's common that Dispatch has so many pics of celebrity couples. but Dispatch reveals an average of 5~6 couples a year.(in 2018, Dispatch revealed only 2 couples) Do you think there are only 5~6 couples of so many k-stars? even there are stars who have never been taken pic by paparazzi(ex- Gong Yoo, Ha Ji Won, Han Ji Min..etc..)i don't think they have never dated with someone until 40 years old. just they did a secret relationship very well..and if they were caught by reporters, their agency dealt with them.
Dispatch just chooses couples they will reveal to suit business interests. if ppc are dating or not, it's sure they took pics of ppc..any type of pic..but the pics can't be a proof enough to make ppc can't deny or reporters don't want to reveal pics for their business interests(profits)
Hear! Hear! My thoughts exactly. This practice is common everywhere. I may sound like a broken record but I do feel Dispatch has PPC pics but has a very good reason not to reveal it...yet (which oftentimes has to do with business/marketing/legal reasons). And unless these people are asexual, humanoid or are prevented by their religion, I’m pretty sure they’re all dating in secret.
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6 hours ago, tali58 said:
By "peace sign" do you mean making a V? Because the thing about this sign is that flashing it is a very common pose, and very popular in Korea, as in many other places, and PSJ does it a lot. Also, PSJ flashes it in many of the pictures he takes with V from BTS, because he and Taehyung are very close friends (hyung/dongsaeng) since "Hwarang," and when held next to the eye, it's V's signature pose. PSJ flashes it in a lot of entrance and exit shots (cars, airports, award shows....). So is he signaling PMY? or his buddy?...
....or maybe his fans?
I don't think it's a clue or a secret signal. But maybe I'm wrong.
Yep. The V sign and yes I’m aware that it’s common to flash it in Asia. I see it a lot in pictures and I’m familiar with it. But it’s more like the timing of the posts as they were only a few minutes apart otherwise I would have ignored it...
Before the Cosmo event, PMY posted a pic with a letter envelope as a caption. I don’t know if that was before or after PSJ’s Weibo pic with a message to the Chinese fans but people quickly assumed that it was some sort of message or clue and then after that PSJ’s attendance at Cosmo was confirmed. This was followed by PMY accidentally liking a PSJ-related message on social media. And of course, we all enjoyed the “See YOU” cryptic messages that they exchanged on IG after that.
In this day and age, subtweeting/”sub-messaging” is considered a common occurrence (I know of an ex couple who exchanged secret messages on Twitter via songs) so it’s not at all impossible if that was exactly their intention. And if you want to be secretive about your relationship yet leave breadcrumbs for the fans I think this is a good way since it’s telling but “sneaky” at the same time. I’ve heard several K-celebs have done this before.
Of course, I cannot say for sure if that is truly what I think it is but the timing of the posts was pretty interesting especially if you saw it in real time.
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12 minutes ago, twoparkcouple said:
what pictures? ppc deleted them already? i become interested in the peace sigh pictures..
There were IG pics where they posed with the peace sign. They also posted the pics only a few minutes apart so some fans think it's some sort of a secret message. Unfortunately, PPC (or at least PSJ) deleted the pic/s but I'll try to find them and upload them. Just teach me how to do that coz I'm a noob on here.
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1 hour ago, twoparkcouple said:
so, do you think simba and leon have a same father? i saw pmy's acquaintance wrote comment on the #Daddy&Son post, Leon's father is top breed of dog attending a Dog show. Leon is one year older than Simba. because i think the top dog(Leon's father) doesn't give birth often each one year apart, i thought Leon and Simba are not sibling.
and pmy didn't say she didn't know that Simba is a lion from a Disney animation. she just said she didn't know Leon and Simba's name had same meaning. seems like she didn't know Leon means Lion in Greek.
ah i forgot saying the Hi message. i was very surprised to know that, like when i first knew psj's uniform number.
if the hi message is also a coincidence..yes ppc were born with a destiny to each other.
Hey, @twoparkcouple! I really appreciate the way you analyze things and the way you present your opinion so hi!
Hmmmm...I'm not sure who Leon's father is (hahaha) but I really think the #Daddy&Son is a bit curious considering the timing of the post which was my main basis. I also know that names could have been coincidental but given all of the factors around them and how she "dodged" that question about Leon...I realized they can't be purely coincidental. Even before I got too involved in shipping PPC, I already took the name Leon as another "hint" since it's a Spanish word and Spanish is a language I'm quite familiar with. And we all know a certain someone had that nickname when he was in Spain. Thanks for clarifying what she said in that interview by the way.
Yes, I noticed PSJ's baseball jersey number too. At first, I was a little skeptical about it but when I discovered that PSJ's jersey had BJH's birthdate around the time they were rumored to be dating, I started to consider it as a clue. And you're right, just like what that female reporter said, if that number isn't proof that they're together, it's a sign that they should at least date each other.
By the way, do you know the peace sign pictures? They were posted in the same year as "Hello"/"Hi, there" which is 2015.
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2 hours ago, twoparkcouple said:
honestly, i don't believe the couple items, pics on their IG(about they traveled abroad together) and dogs. because i knew psj went to Hongkong, California, Japan for work...and pmy adopted Leon in 2015..a year after psj adopted Simba in 2016. so they are not ppc's couple pets and Leon&Simba are not a sibling. that Leon and Simba's name have same meaning "Lion" may be a coincidence.
(or psj just named Simba following pmy's dog name because he is a long time fan boy of pmy?)
but one absolute proof which made me and most people believe ppc're dating is the number of his uniform "34"(pmy's birthday). if it is also a coincidence...like reporters said, ppc are destined to be a lover.
cr parkpark_couple_luv IG story
I concur with most of the things you said. As a non-Korean fan who's shipping a K-celeb couple for the first time, I find couple items to be a ridiculous and shallow way to confirm whether a couple is dating or not. In fact, I had to ask my Korean and Japanese friends what the fuss is when it comes to these things. And for celebrities who are known to be secretive about their relationship, buying similar/matching items would be a DEAD GIVEAWAY and would defeat the very purpose of hiding the relationship...
I also had the same initial reaction to their travels to the US and to other countries. These are celebs which means that they have photo shoots and other possible commitments so being in the same country at around the same time (especially in the US) does not necessarily mean they're dating. I mean, I see a lot of Koreans in my neighborhood and I even had a Korean schoolmate who is now a member of a famous Girl Group.
HOWEVER, I would like to disagree about the dog thing. Yes, PMY adopted Leon in 2015 and Simba was adopted by PSJ in 2016 but on December 17, 2016 (literally just a day after PSJ's birthday) PMY posted two pics of Bichon Frise dogs on IG with the caption #Daddy&Son. We know both dogs are male and one (Leon) is older so the probability of this just being a mere coincidence is highly unlikely. In fact, there was an interview where PMY said that she didn't know that Simba is a character from a famous Disney animated film when she was asked about PSJ's dog which made me laugh hard. Also, I'm not sure if adopting dogs together is a thing in Korea but it is big here and is oftentimes the yardstick that a couple is serious. We take dog custody in a similar vein as child custody in case the couple breaks up or files for divorce.
The cryptic messages on IG (e.g. "Hi", "Hello, there" and another pair of pics with the peace sign) which happened at around the same time are also interesting although we can't fully consider them as proof of course. Only time will tell what the true situation is between them.
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13 hours ago, park2park said:
BTW IDK ABOUT U GUYS BUT IM CURIOUS WHY IS PMY ALWAYS HAVING SO MANY ACCIDENTS WHEN IT COMES TO PPC RELATED??
Because the more conscious and careful you are, the more "careless" and "clumsy" you become. Add the PMY factor to the equation and the chances of accidents like that occurring triples LOL.
I think we've all experienced making mistakes particularly when we're curious about something on social media but trying our best to pretend that we're not (e.g. Justin Bieber's fiancée accidentally followed a Selena Gomez Fan account on IG a couple of months back). I've accidentally followed and liked things on social media myself and it's more embarrassing when you're using your real account as opposed to the secret/fake one.
Her slip-ups show that PMY reads comments just like ordinary people and "snoops around" to see if there are PPC-related comments on social media.
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4 hours ago, park2park said:
Ugh why didnt that reporter just write "theyre reportedly dating" like every other normal nosy tabloids. Why did they put the 3 yrs thing. It srsly put such a messy spin on PPC
Because the more "scandalous" and "sensational" something is, the better it is especially for tabloids. They wanted to be ahead of everyone else so they decided to write something that would easily capture the attention of people. Plus, I think a lot already suspected PPC to be dating so adding 3 years into the story makes it more interesting to readers. That's how they thrive.
1 hour ago, LurkerNoMore said:I’m not sure if I’m speaking for any potential male shippers who are lurking out here in the forum, but for us males, it can be pretty tough to post anything since we are in a completely new environment where the thread is if I could roughly call it very female oriented like possibly 95% females 5% males ratio?
In addition, considering that this is my first time actually shipping a couple albeit I have been more or less observing or wishing them the best for a period of time, I was really in a dilemma of participating for fear that I could have been saying something that many could not really relate to, so for me personally it was really difficult contributing and a tough step to take.
However, I was glad that i joined this forum because it made me understand more about other people’s perspective as well as their expertise in work put into good use.
I would like to express my sincere thanks to everyone in this forum for keeping this thread alive and being so active in providing your opinions and thoughts.
P.S: It would be nice to know if there’s a fellow male shipper elsewhere though, a pm will also work if you want to stay hidden.
I'm not male obviously, lol. But I tend to see things from a more "level-headed" and analytical perspective too so I really appreciate your perspective and musings.
P.S. I had a slight hunch you were male based on the way you posted your answer so thanks for confirming
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So PMY is busy in Korea while PSJ is on his way to the land down under. I hate long-distance relationships. I can't even! LOL #staystrongPPC #thisisjustforfun #SeeYOU
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5 minutes ago, zashi23 said:
I think they couldn't really talk to understand or hear each other because of the noise and the music is just too loud.
There's another fan video wherein PMY called LSG's attention and she said something to him and LSG needed to move closer to her to be able to understand her.
Yep. I saw this earlier.
They whispered but not in a very "loving & caring" way that we saw between her & PSJ. They seem more like mere colleagues here who are comfortable yet careful not to get anyone to read what isn't there whereas with PPC they were very comfortable and warm toward each other in private but looked so stiff in public as if they're hiding something. lol
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58 minutes ago, snitchdream08 said:
Why they're not chatting like they're unknowing each other? Oh maybe PSJ already warn her to not close with LSG lol just kidding
Lol. But back in 2017 (AAA), they were the ones chatting and laughing a lot while she deliberately ignored PSJ. I smell something fishy. #PPCIsReal
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3 hours ago, tali58 said:
So I watched the kissing scene...I must be the only one who didn't think it was steamy at all. It's a gentle, long kiss that's supposed to convey love, and SHK and PBG do a good job "selling" it, but there's none of the heat or sizzling energy that would define "steamy" for me. It's a pretty scene, but not full-on passionate, and it feels acted, which, of course, it is. Just because SHK doesn't stand like a frozen, unresponsive doll with her hands at her side like so many Korean actresses in KBS dramas doesn't make the scene "steamy". Even the expressions in both their eyes is more affectionate than loving.
They're both good actors and professionals, and that comes through, but I don't see what the big fuss is. I think that if PBG wasn't SJK's best friend, it wouldn't be such a sensational big deal, to be honest.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to what the Korean media and fans believe, wasn't PMY already with PSJ when she filmed "Healer"? She has some kisses that can be considered "steamy" in that, yet no retroactive reactions to that. It's all part of the job.
True. I’ve seen some clips of Encounter and I haven’t seen any “steamy” kisses yet. They’re really good actors though so it’s no surprise that they’re receiving high ratings in SK.
Although PSJ was tagged in one of PMY’s IG pics by a random person in 2016, some fans have unearthed pics where the two are believed to be giving “secret messages” to each other as early as 2015. The “Hello/Hi, There” (which even some people here pointed out) and the peace sign are some of the two posts that some IG and Twitter fans found. PSJ deleted the pics so it’s hard to “trace” but fans took screenshots
I know a lot of people here don’t believe the 2015 theory so I’m not going to elaborate further...
I saw Healer and I gotta say that JCW and PMY have really good onscreen chemistry. The show has a really good story BUT I haven’t seen any of these so-called “steamy” kisses (maybe a cultural thing? lol). Both PMY and SHK are really good actresses so it’s interesting to see them “properly responding” to their male co-stars.
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13 minutes ago, tali58 said:
Did people get jealous? I understand feeling uncomfortable, since SHK was kissing SJK's best friend, but it's their work, and it's not like it's behind SJK's back or he didn't approve of them costarring, or doesn't know it's work. Lol. He'll be kissing another women soon in his new drama, too.
Anyone who has ever been on a filming set knows how
un-romantic it usually is, especially for actors who aren't romantically into each other. There's the director calling out directions, crew all around and very up close, cameras and microphones practically in the actors' faces, bright lights.... and the actors have to be aware of angles, positions, etc.. Actors always talk about how awkward those scenes are, and how hard it is to fake and create believable passion. That's why the steam fogging the tv screen during the kissing scenes in WWWSK is so noticeable....
Yep. Really awkward and sweaty not to mention there’s A LOT of waiting involved particularly if you’re not the lead actor/actress. My friend’s call time was 5PM but she had to wait til 6am the following day coz the lead actor had prior commitments.
Actors oftentimes have to do passionate/intimate scenes right off the bat even even before building enough rapport so it’s amazing how they’re able to pull off scenes like that.
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3 hours ago, chariebears said:
Hi guys i am new here. But since i discovered this forum i had been reading alot from you for sometime already.. i am just a new fan of korean drama. Because recently i watched wwwsk. I am hooked and fell in love with the couple on the drama. I really love the chemistry and became curious about them. I think they are real. So i was converted from a none kdrama believer into a parkpark shipper.
Welcome! Glad to have you on board, (ship)mate. A lot of us, myself included, are fairly new here so it's good to know we're growing....yay!
20 hours ago, snitchdream08 said:Why you think PPC is real from her gestures to KKY? I'm just curious
I'll try to answer this because I noticed this one as well although @LurkerNoMore might have a different insight into this. It was proof to me when KKY teased PMY just before the event officially ended that the cast knew the two were a couple...kinda like an office, inside joke (which is probably why they all chose PPC's kissing scenes as their favorite). How she playfully reciprocated the way he was teasing her vs how she and PSJ acted like bricks onstage was a pretty interesting contrast as well lol. I noticed something else that piqued my curiosity after that event but I'll keep mum for now until we see more...
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18 hours ago, mimixemix said:
thanks for all the good responses and convincing me when I have a doubt about ppc.
That is all I need. My doubts are gone now.
hehehehe
It's all right. I guess it's natural to be doubtful at times since we don't personally know these people. Let me share a story about an actress I'm a huge fan of:
This particular actress was rumored to be aloof and a "diva" (by rumors I'm referring to online fans and tabloids). As a fan, I IGNORED all of those things and only listened to what her agency and the "legit" sources/non-tabloid are saying: that she's introverted and shy. She mostly played the protagonist at the height of her career, so naturally, a fan like me would expect her to be just like the characters she portrayed. Even when my friend's uncle who is a talent agent said that she was aloof, I didn't listen. Even when my aunt saw her and said the same thing, I continued to stick to what I know and believe about her. It was only when I ACTUALLY saw her in an event that my opinion changed. She really was aloof after all lol. She barely made eye contact and smirked more than smiled. Worse, she felt more "important" than any of us even when we were considered "equals" in that said event. To this day, I'm still a fan of hers but that incident changed my perspective of what is true versus what is depicted on TV/media.
Forgive me if my story sounds negative
This is the closest I can think of. As I have said before, when there's smoke, there's fire and people definitely TALK . The locals would certainly know something that us international fans will not be privy to. That's why I find it really curious why local fans keep insisting that PPC is a thing despite the lack of "sufficient" evidence. Even one of the reporters said she was "positive" that something is going on between the two. @LurkerNoMore's observations are also spot-on. They're too conscious of the way they interact in public that it makes it all the more obvious that they're hiding something. Being neighbors is also a huge advantage because it can protect their relationship from prying eyes. I know we're all excited for the big reveal but until then...hang in there, bud! -
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56 minutes ago, tali58 said:
I have to agree here. I don't think SportsDongA turned "everything into a mess." If PPC really have been dating before the drama, then that article was probably something they might have factored in. Still very annoying, but not entirely unexpected. If they were just starting to date, both are mature adults, and neither one seems to be the kind to be deterred by a gossip article, especially if the relationship has a future-changing potential. PSJ has said in a number of interviews that if he likes a woman he "just goes for it" and he doesn't pay attention to what others think, only what she thinks.
As far as the SSC comparisons, that's to be expected, and I don't agree that there's anything wrong with that, if it's done logically, instead of emotionally. However, neither couple lives their private lives to satisfy fans' happiness nor to cause fans' sadness. They don't owe fans ANY glimpse into their private lives. So while, yes, SSC did do joint publicity events, that was their choice, and PPC made different choices. Fans might wish for more joint appearances, but to avoid all comparisons because "fans might feel sad" is not logical. Instead, we should also not forget that SSC took a break from new projects, except for a few commercials, whereas in PPC's case, both immediately plunged into many already scheduled, new projects -- movies, commercials in various countries, fan meets for PMY, spokespeople contracts, commentaries for the Director's cut for WWWSK, etc., and didn't even have time to attend award ceremonies except for one or two.
So it's silly for fans to feel sad if PPC don't do joint events like SSC did. Nothing wrong with comparing and wishing, but true fans should look logically at the full picture and be unselfish and happy for the many opportunities both PSJ and PMY are getting and accepting.
I have to disagree with the point that SSC was more established in their careers than PPC, specifically in SJK's case. He had just come back from the military, and wasn't even the first choice for the role in DOTS. Jo In-Sung was the writer's and director's first choice. But JIS turned down the part and suggested that his friend, much lesser-known and lesser-established SJK, who was gone for two years for military service, would be perfect for the role personality-wise and because SJK was still in army-mode both mentally and physically. They trusted JIS's recommendation and contacted SJK. But SJK was not securely established as far as the loyalty of emotional female fans. I think we all remember the nasty posts to SHK.... On the other hand, PSJ is very well established with both male and female fans. He also has a strong female fan base that actually wants to see him happily in love. The conflict among PSJ's female fans is with whom they'd like him to be happy. Lol. He's also a man with a plan for his career and his life, so he's chosen to take all the opportunities he's being offered. Especially since a number of actors his age are coming out of the military and will be competition. Smart man!! If his relationship with PMY is solid, then he doesn't need to worry about work-related time away, or not having time for joint fan meets or joint awards ceremonies attendances.
Obviously, PMY isn't as established as SHK, but few actresses are! SHK is a legend already, and can have any part she wishes. But, at least the way I see it, while SHK could take the time to do joint events with SJK, PMY has to take advantage of all the increased number of opportunities she's getting. It's the smart choice to make. Like PSJ, if they're in a solid relationship, she doesn't need to worry about being briefly away for work- related trips or jointly-attended award shows.
This group is all about theories, guesses, "detective work", and humorously delusional speculations, with the occasional factual hints here and there. That's why it's fun! So there's really nothing wrong with references to SSC or other previous ships, in speculating about similarities or differences, as both are in the same business. I think telling people what they can or can't write takes away the fun and the sense of community. We've been the fun, no-drama shipping forum, and I would hate for us to lose that.
We just have to remember that we are, ultimately, speculating (sometimes wildly) about the private lives of actual people, not drama characters.
Happy shipping!
So the first couple to be outed turns out to be Lee Kwon-Soo (who played PSJ's "brother" and best friend in "Hwarang", lol) and Lee Sun Bin. But they weren't outed by Dispatch, so the mystery continues.....
Totally agree with everything said. You nailed it, @tali58. Bravo!
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LOL. With all due respect, I was not comparing per se. I was merely citing a reference to show the reality of their industry. Celebs have a network of people inside which means even if a certain news agency such as Dispatch has this annual and insulting tradition of outing celeb couples, it can make an exception if the above situation or something similar holds true. This is a forum for speculations, assumptions, viewpoints and/or delusions, so naturally, most people, such as myself, would comment accordingly. In fact, that tidbit of info that you shared about them possibly doing an exclusive is EXACTLY what I had in mind because of what I hear from people within. This only shows that the entertainment industry is intrinsically the same no matter where you are in the world. Also, I still beg to disagree on Sports DongA “turning everything into a mess”. It may have inconvenienced them a little as expected but I don’t think it came as a total surprise for them. I’ve seen this play out far worse in other situations so I think they’re fine. Cheers!
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) So I think women fans are wrong about PSJ's uniform # as a "clue," and that his explanation is the truth. 
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Whoa!!! So after being absent for a few days here I can't believe that I will be welcomed by a loud bang! LOL. Okay, now for my POV:
1. Since we know (or at least it was mentioned here) that PSJ's agency did not respond to these "allegations" I think it's safe to say that it's nothing but fake news? That other camp is really good at making stuff up and I even had to block some of them on IG because their imaginations are wild and mostly baseless.
2. Why on earth would PSJ go out with his gf on broad daylight and call her his "baby"?? That goes against his nature and unless he did that on purpose to "irk" a certain someone or is on a suicide mission lol I don't see why he would endanger his and his gf's career. He stressed in his interviews that he would not let anyone hurt his significant other so I think that tweet is sheer bogus.
3. If you recall, I was the one who said that PSJ and PMY were on board the same flight to China for Cosmo. I got that "intel" from Chinese shippers but as we know it was nothing but fake news. The said source even assured me that PMY was seen with PSJ but had to hide for a few hours so that the fans won't notice them leave the airport together. Fans can "create" stories to suit their interests and to feed their minds with delusional claims. Nothing completely wrong with that if that floats your boat but the moment someone claims something concocted as truth and spreads malicious rumors on purpose is a whole different story and is completely immature if you ask me.
I guess time will tell which is which but I really doubt someone as careful as PSJ would suddenly change his "tactics" right now. So let's just wait and see and also take a chill pill while we're at it.