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  1. Been so long since i last came on here. I'm glad I came back just so I could read this. I love the idea of Zhiwei being pregnant but how does she not miscarry after a fall? oh well. I still love these characters. It's been so long but they still have a special place in my heart. I just started watching story of yanxi palace. Really like it so far...plot and pacing. But characters still aren't as magnetic as the ones in ROTP. And manchu aesthetic takes some getting used to...(the men's hairstyles ugh...).
  2. Welcome to the forum I don't think they were lovers or even slept together. NY doesn't show a sliver of attraction towards her and there is no lingering awkwardness between them. Zhu Yin wouldn't be so casual teasing him about Zhiwei. He came to Lanxiang on the pretext of being a tailor and exaggerated his eccentricity. Think that helped him get away with not sleeping with anyone. Regarding her reaction on those two scenes, the first one I think it's because she was suddenly reminded of the Wugu incident. The tragedy of that incident and how it ruined their lives is what brought NY and Zhu Yin together. Second reaction, well...she was forced to live in a brothel for 8yrs. Probably tired of men. And after going through everything she had, settling down like a normal person might have seemed so far fetched. There's no way she can truly re-enter honourable society, she'll always be shunned for being a Lanxiang woman. Their convo after that is how zhiwei inspired her to be curious about the world and look beyond what was typically expected from them.
  3. Is it the Empress of China? Its not an easy feat to portray someone so badass. And dramas probably love to milk the sensational bits. I was introduced to her in a documentary but it was too documentary-ish to finish. So I read up on her afterward. It would be nice to see a modern TV adaptation that wasn't melodramatic or too historical. Something that captures her essence and shows the sheer force of nature she was (crazy included). More than acting that would need exceptional writers. You're right Zhiwei reconciling with Tiansheng does seem odd somehow. It doesn't do her identity justice. In this regard too I like the novel's storyline of her establishing dacheng for a while. But show seems really opposed to dacheng only vaguely showing their side. All the supporters just look nuts to us. There's still such a romantic ring to NY and FZY working together in a position of power, combining their talents bringing justice and prosperity to this land. I'm reminded of your episodic detective show idea. Maybe they can rename the empire...hmm a girl can dream
  4. Thanks for your input! Its harder for an outsider to understand the hard and soft limits. I thought about Wu Zetian and did hear that Tang dynasty was less restrictive. But don't know how far that extends. I wouldn't think anything was off if zhiwei got to be co-regent in Tiensheng but they can't ignore the expectations of the target audience. It didn't do well there as it is. And thank heavens the tone of the show isn't fantasy. Anyone know if the show is on any streaming service there (mainland China) ? All 70 episodes? Whats their opinion after watching everything? Is the show already forgotten?
  5. Thank you for sharing that! Real life is indeed stranger than fiction. I desperately want to believe this could've happened for Zhiwei and NingYi. I don't care for many drama couples people fawn over, if it doesn't work out i think oh well it is what it is that's the story and move on. But this OTP...sigh still bummed that their potential wasn't realized. They barely got together and then bam over for good. However, the imperial system is different in different regions and eras. All monarchies don't operate the same way. Earlier others had remarked on the forum how Tiansheng's system itself is different from Jinshi. Zhiwei wouldn't be as free being empress of Tiansheng like she was Queen of Jinshi. As a lay person and a foreigner, idk how unrealistic it will be if Zhiwei was co-regent in a kingdom based on the Tang Dynasty. Others had mentioned the importance of support from the officials. @skibbies think you said before there was a rule that empresses/consorts cannot interfere with politics whatsoever? Course this is fiction so anything should be possible but again we don't know how odd it will seem to viewers who understand the culture of that era. Personally I'm all for it. This is what I hoped for them. I don't see why NingYi can't manipulate and make it happen if he wanted to. I can see drama Zhiwei being opposed to it in the beginning because she isn't thirsty for that level of power (and headache that comes with it) but later wanting it so she will have power to protect those she cares about. @tendrilsofwind and @skibbies what do you guys think?
  6. I am sure that this is not gonna be a popular opinion, but I do like Yao Yangci as Empress. Not as Ning Yi's lover of course. But I can see her as someone who would work with him like Zhuyin. They are both regal and brilliant. And I hope no one stones me to death. This is shallow but it irks me that she has the same hairstyle as Qiu Mingying. She better get a new hairdo as empress I support the idea of her being empress only because I want NY to experience fatherhood and have the opportunity to be a better father than his own in this lifetime. From the short scenes we see of her I can't see much physical chemistry between her and NY. Thats good, NY should'nt have it too good either. He better not fall for her, not even as a minor second love. Just care for her as a friend and mother of his kids. I allow him to experience other joys but not romantic love. Thats reserved for Zhiwei in his next life. I've officially lost it....
  7. Thats too bad. Then it doesn't work in the drama because Gu Yan's wife and kid went missing after NingYi forced him to surrender. I can't remember what exactly happened with them now did Ning Chuan kill them or force them into hiding then they died? ah will keep a lookout for this on my next watch.
  8. I want to know the answer to this too lol. On Episode 14, Zhiwei remarks that they both have the same mole near the eye (this is when they just joined Qingming and had their first meal together). I hoped for some interesting connection or backstory but nothing. So just a coincidence then? I really like Gu Nanyi but more for Zhiwei than for himself. He is a worthy addition to Zhiwei's entourage. That may sound mean but its just what I honestly feel. But can def relate to wanting to know more and understand all the characters in tRop. Its hard to say. My take is that she didn't resent ZhiWei. She cared about her as the princess of the empire she devoted her life to and as a daughter she raised. But mostly because of the former. Her unwavering loyalty to dacheng and ethos of the time means she probably believed she was carrying out a divine order or very honorable mission. So sacrificing her kid is sort of like a good deed whose rewards even her kid might benefit from in the next life. Not that it wasn't a painful choice for her but I don't think she resented Zhiwei for it. Must have channeled it all to the Nings.
  9. I wondered this too. I'm guessing he became more lenient as he got older and that prophecy (one that stated all his children will die) was dawning on him. EDIT: Just read @skibbies answer. I suppose its not lenient in that regard. RE: Yes, birth certificate was faked along with the birth mark to act as cover. Everyone said prince because thats the natural expectation especially for a potential regent. Helian Zheng and Feng Zhiwei although married didn't consummate. Missing backstory...well we know the show was cut short especially in the end. In that light it may be too much ask for everyone's backstory. But I found this on google that might help https://cfensi.wordpress.com/2017/08/24/an-introduction-to-the-characters-in-the-rise-of-phoenixes/ EDIT: Hold up...this link says Gu Yan is Gu Nanyi's biological father but under Nanyi it says his father abandoned him on the streets because he was autistic. Huh? lol ignore the info on that link. Think its from multiple sources. I'm still gonna leave it there because the other info is helpful.
  10. No it is interesting. This is the source of inspiration after all. I don't care for it enough to read the whole novel but its nice to hear tidbits about it relating to the drama. Thats the thing they didn't transition him in. So it takes away from the story that unfolded before. You can justify it by saying he was in hiding or whatever but its bad storytelling to present him like this. Just how did he as a director stand for the ruining of the work he helped create I'm starting to think there's a hidden conspiracy about the ending. Can we sue them?? ugh...
  11. I get that she showed a lot of tough love and her personality is stiff after going through many hardships in life; losing her son, husband, empire, kicked out of her family, enduring the humiliation of then coming back etc. Her being general before (not sure if its true in the drama but likely because she knows martial arts) also adds to this demeanor. She's not a black and white character by any means. It's just that from a likeability point of view, it would've helped to see a softer side. I know we don't have to like every character but personally I wanted to see one more mother-daughter affectionate scene. Even a smile from her. If only to justify how much zhiwei lost because of her. I do like the jail scene a lot. That alone made me care about her more. Ah thats an interesting thought. Is it really because of Zong Chen alone tho? I thought Zong saved him from some other tragic background story and gave him a life by looking after and training him. Really don't know much about Gu Nanyi's background in the drama to judge. I assumed his social ineptness was because of that trauma ( whatever caused him to lose his family) and maybe slight neuro-atypical traits. Hadn't thought about it being caused by Zong's upbringing. I guess it is possible. Zong's not a hero by any means. Even though initially he's presented as Zhiwei's teacher and good friend of Qiu Mingying who helps a lot we later find that its all for the cause. Hard to know if he had a heart or not. Can only judge with people unrelated to the cause because he'll do anything to help or hurt someone for Dacheng. I still find it super shady that he kept the knowledge of the 4th prince from Zhiwei. I thought he cared about her more being her teacher and spending time with her but at the end I'm not so sure. We'll only know the truth of that if he had to choose between the 4th prince and her. Except for that line he told Gu Nanyi "protect zhiwei" when he died made me think he realized prince might hurt her. As for how he treated Gu Nanyi, from Nanyi's perspective it seemed like he did alright but maybe thats cuz he's naive. Through a modern lens Zong had the responsibility of a parent after adopting nanyi and he definitely didn't treat him like a son but for that time, he was just a teacher/leader who essentially recruited Nanyi to be a soldier. Gave him a purpose and saved him from some other gruesome fate. Think his family was also involved with the bloody pagoda? idk someone else needs to clarify. But you're right in that for someone who raised a person, he didn't give a damn about Gu Nanyi. Forget Zhiwei, he should've cared about Nanyi more but he just used him. Aww its so sweet of you to care about him in the midst of other louder characters.
  12. I think you're confused about the semantics. "Remnant" here refers to the remaining members of the previous empire's royal family not its supporters. So only Emperor Ai's children who were princes and princesses of the Dacheng empire are referred to as remnants in this context because only they can restore the old empire as per their lineage. And they are 'remnants' in the first place because the current emperor, Ning Shizeng (Emperor of Tiansheng) and his army killed all members of the Dacheng royal family during his rebellion/take over. Atleast they thought they did except there were two they missed. First is Feng Zhiwei and second is the 4th prince Zhangsun Hong that was revealed in the end. Zhangsun Hong is more eligible to restore the previous empire since he's male and older. Wait does birth order matter if you're just a consort's kid @skibbies ? Woah this makes so much sense. No wonder Feng Hao was allowed to do anything and act like a kid even when he should've manned up. I kindof assumed he had low IQ so they went easy on him. The fact that she was guilty for setting up feng hao to be sacrificed (hence spoiled him) could've been more emphasized in the drama. I too was a bit confused after watching the show and only after reading on here understood that Feng Hao was supposed to be a decoy for Zhiwei to protect her incase anything happens while Zhiwei herself was a buffer for Zhangsun Hong. Can't believe they created a new character for the drama that did no good for the story. They diluted the essence of the story by bringing him in. Sigh... Also is this actor in the production crew? He's in all the BTS instructing and directing other actors. Was he a last minute hire?
  13. @troptina Hey!! Welcome to the forum. Mama Gu (Qiu Mingying) gave birth to twin boys.. The real Dacheng remnant was Feng Zhiwei, real name Zhangsun Zhiwei and she was given to Qiu Mingying to take care of in place of one of her twins. You can check Episode 52 when master zong reveals it to zhiwei. @Pollen Ainne Oh yea the society was patriarchal. Men had more power than women. But it was also an unequal society beyond just the patriarchy. Everyone can't be anyone. In that sense, being a woman is just one more class identifier. idk how to explain it but some people are sexist at their core. They truly believe women are subhuman and not deserving of personhood. Some people believe that about other races, castes etc. Many characters in tRop probably believe that. Ning Chuan probably thought he was semi-divine. looll. I just meant, from what I can understand about NingYi, he wasn't extra prejudiced towards women. Probably believed in gender roles as part of other structural divisions and customs in society like family line, birth order...etc. But can recognize the humanity in others and empathize with them. If they didn't richard simmons with him or his loves ones. Then he'll kill you lol.
  14. I'm glad there weren't any superman scenes in tRop. I'm laughing just thinking about it. Looking back I really admire how realistic this world was despite being in a fictional universe and sort of having a free pass to do anything. Elements of fantasy were restricted to magical realism (thanks for that nugget earlier @tendrilsofwind). It's not fair to compare it to Bloody Romance since its made with a much lower budget and obviously a different genre but I can't help it since its my second chinese period/costume drama. I even got NingYi vibes from one of the characters. What's funny is that story takes place in the real past during the later Tang dynasty and one of the characters is the grandson of Empress Wu Zetian. I thought of commenting on that forum but my first thought is how much it pales in comparison to tRop and idk if I should rain on their parade. Hmm...it does have its pros. For one, ending wasn't rushed and I guess its sad? but I didn't care about the OTP much so whatever. SEE I keep looking at it from the perspective of tRop. The most 'wuxia' plot armour I hope for FZW is that she faked her death and lived a quiet life far away or traveled the world with Nanyi. Yo...15 is wayy too young. Even if everyone considered that old enough my modern eyes can't help but see a child. Is NingYi only 8yrs older than her or is he 26 when she's 15?. And she was imperial advisor before becoming Wei Zhi? Woah Novel is pretty different. I think a lot of changes in the drama were for good.
  15. You have a point. It is a flaw of his. But although she didn't like it, it is great Zhiwei was smart enough to adapt. She might scold him about it but she didn't whine and complain like a lot of girls would do. And I think had they been given a chance, Ning Yi would have gradually opened up more. IMO, NY wasn't patriarchal but he respected class differences. And being a woman altered your class. I think that's different from pure sexism. He believed in the fair treatment of people and humanity within that framework but didn't think there was anything wrong with humans having different ranks and some people having to bow down to others just because of their birth. Even then he was willing to look beyond status often for the sake of the person. What warmed me to NY was how his treatment of her changed throughout, in the beginning he treated her like a damsel in distress not involving her in anything (remember when he locked her in his room while he went out and made decisions that involved her own family) but that slowly changed. I sometimes wonder what could've happened between them if FZW decided to stay with him after he offered the same (after Qiu Mingying kicked her out). If they had become a couple then, it would've been a very unbalanced relationship. Hate to think of her having as little agency as Ning Cheng. Yikes. But that's unlikely. FZW wouldn't be FZW if she agreed to stay with him and NY couldn't have fallen in love with anyone but the real FZW. I believe in the vice versa too, FZW wouldn't have accepted NY if he didn't open up to her and start treating her as an equal. He still had issues to work on but that's to be expected you can't change a key characteristic of your personality (being stubborn and wanting to do everything by yourself) overnight. But he made a lot of progress and I want to believe that had they stayed together he could've improved on this. Also these two seem to do better after they've spent time together than when they're apart. What I mean is its not a 'distance makes the heart grow fonder' deal with them. Even in the later episodes, the longer they're apart the more misunderstandings pop up. Regarding the plague scene, I think that was another turning point in their relationship. Even though she was hurt, she worked her way around it by writing in code that she understood he was lying and I think it opened his eyes bit. It shows their compatibility as a couple. She found a way to deal with his stubbornness and to me it seemed like he was starting to change. He was very different after the plague. Unfortunately we can only speculate how they'd be as a long term couple because that never happened. Maybe they'd fight and turn bitter or work on their problems and grow stronger. Who knows... Spot on about her hypocrisy. I hate her but I do think she was genuinely confused on what to do with zhiwei since the beginning of the show. It does make her character more interesting that, she was struggling with her commitment to dacheng vs her love of zhiwei as a mother. Not that her maternal instincts are anything to go on about (miss sacrifice your own kids for dacheng). I think ultimately that's where it went wrong. She is a better dacheng subject than a mom. Hmm can we draw a parallel between her and the emperor as parents? Just one scene of her being nice to Zhiwei would've greyed her character more. I really want to understand her for Zhiwei's sake but damn that woman is a b.itch. FZW is way too kind lol. I'm curious why you think this way about Master Zong? How would you say he exploited Gu Nanyi particularly? I feel like all the masters on this show were kindof d.icks to their subordinates, even NingYi, compared to modern standards. Except Zhi Wei. She was an angel to Yan Huaishi and Gu Nanyi.
  16. LOL – you guys! I thought the underwater kiss was beautiful and poetic. I guess I’m alone. Only in private can they be just two people in love. For me, the kiss wasn’t supposed to be sizzling with chemistry but a reaffirmation of their love. The way they caressed each other’s faces was full of tenderness and affection. I don't think you're alone. Think most had a lukewarm reaction while mine is on the colder end of the spectrum. The way I saw it, they don't normally kiss. That's the first and only one we've seen and it was wasted on that moment, that situation. Any other physical interaction could've been taken as a tender moment between those two maybe their clothes get tangled together underwater and they help each other while pausing for a stare, or some other embrace or face grabbing, hand holding or even smiling warmly. (this OTP can inject meaning into any scene if they wanted to). That doesn't sound like much but considering how much they'd drifted apart after Zhi Wei's mom died this would have been plenty to chew on. A kiss for me is more direct, more charged...more sensual. Atleast it ought to be, between this couple especially. They aren't casual huggers or peckers. The BTS was really beautiful. Even the vibe was different. This scene needed more quiet and calm before showing. The atmosphere of the flood doesn't work at all, its too urgent and adrenaline packed. And this wasn't a fierce you know what lets just go for it since we're about to die anyway kiss. Not to mention as viewers we're still scratching our heads in shock of the flood like wtf where did that come from? Was it planned by NY? Did Hua Qiong just die for good?? Who else in gonna die now?? Oh look NingYi is trying to save ZhiWei from drowning...and then...oh hey you know what lets just chill out here underwater and make out for a bit while everyone else is drowning and fighting for survival. It just didn't work for me, especially when I first watched it. One whole book for Jinshi? damn. And they were trapped in Dayue for nearly a year? No wonder the years racked up in the Novel. Also makes their stay more dire and claustrophobic. Speaking of the difference in years, drama zhi wei calls it quits when shes just 20..21? more harsh. Woah really?? That does make me feel better. Is it just a Wuxia thing tho? I just finished watching a show called Bloody Romance. I didn't take it too seriously just started seeing casually because of its opening theme (so pretty) and somehow stuck till the end. Anyway I found it hilarious when everyone was flying around like superman on this show but only during the fight scenes or when they have to get away from danger. Does the anti gravity not work in other situations? LOOL.. I think someone described tRop as wuxia too but I didn't find the sequences that absurd. It didn't stand out to me even though its the first time I'm seeing this sort of flying martial arts. Oh that is so sweet. I didn't know it as fact but this is apparent from those scenes. He really acted like a son-in-law there. Out of topic, but its always a joy seeing your perspective on here. If you ever start a review blog/vlog anything I'd follow for sure. Along with this I think he felt really insecure and guilty at that point too. Don't think he got over what Zhi Wei told him when she was drugged. Also can we not forget the oath !!
  17. From here on...you'll be shaking your head a lot more You've nailed all the points many had expressed on here. I'm glad someone else feels the exact same way about that underwater kiss. From the trailer I expected something real sizzling but when it happened I wasn't enthused either. Puyuan arc was pretty rushed. Even I'm not 100% sure about the exact progression of events because of the editing and incomplete flashbacks to explain the gaps. Maybe someone else can explain it?? I just tried to understand it loosely without dwelling on the details. She is drugged (we know she took the first dose without realizing when she was testing 'medicine' for Hua Qiong). NY and FZW suspect something is wrong when she faints. NY hands over acupuncture needles saying he's not sure his plan is foolproof but he'll get her out of there no matter what (seen in flashback). Then she loses her memory along with mixing up her impression of NY and projecting the good stuff on Jin Siyu and bad stuff on NY. NY tries to awake her with his flute/ocarina to no avail the first time. Second time during the wedding she gets it back but continues pretending. Then the place is flooded. We have to guess the back story from this. It's sad that zhiwei expressed those things to Jin Si yu and not to Ning Yi but it wouldn't have mattered if they could've made up. By make up I don't mean fully get back together (because of the vow) but atleast understand each other again and respect the love they have for each other. A true intimate scene before parting....I think we deserved that, heart wrenching as it may be. I think NY saying he feels 'guilty' is because he's bad at expressing his feelings for her. While everyone around him caught wind of his feelings for FZW early on he himself was in denial. He slowly comes out of it but its only when he suffers that plague does the extent of it really hit him. He is so vulnerable there. I think its a defensive mechanism when he goes back to not openly expressing his love for her. As for why it was necessary for the story (drugging), I think there was a similar theme in the novel (so that's where the inspiration is from) but did they really have to make it like this?? Ah....idk. This show created such an impression on me. So I really wanted the suffering and journey of the characters I cared about to be paid off in an idealistic way. But at the least the story could have unfolded in a more coherent manner towards the end. Even with 70 episodes it feels too short. Someone remarked earlier that this plane needed a few more episodes for a smooth landing or something to that effect (they said it better) and I agree. AHHH YESS PLEASE...the wrist biting...lool its the first time I've seen something like that but loved it. Yep. The plot/premise is good and the scheming is decent. But its the myriad of intriguing lifelike characters that make you stay.
  18. Thats funny....made me think you cried upside down. Man I loved Zhu Yin. I often think of her and Zhiwei together but I'm now reminded how close she and NingYi were too. It was nice seeing a true platonic male-female friendship in a period drama. There was no hint of 'shipping' or friendzoning. It also gives you a reference for how NY is with other women vs Zhi Wei. And I like a guy who can be just friends with a woman. Hers was the first death that hit deep. More than I expected. I wish she lived longer for our lead's sake but her death made the fight more real. I wouldn't have hated the Changs as much if it weren't for this. I guess Hua Qiong was supposed to be our consolation but since her scenes were butchered I didn't really feel for her as much as Zhu Yin. I wonder how I might've felt about her if we got to see more of her. I think we were supposed to since she's more prominent in the promos. I miss those days. I binged upto episode 60 no spoilers. If I started watching a week later I could've seen all 70 in one go but netflix was still uploading so I had to wait a week for the last 10. Was in a haze the whole week... I was sad but it was a beautiful sadness. Keep at it, Jiayou! (cue the cringe..)
  19. Also shouldn't drama fanfic be in drama format? who knows that might become a thing with youtube and easy home production. Buahahaa....next level cringe You know I've had the opposite experience. I can tolerate bland acting better when there's subtitles because it feels less boring when I'm switching from their faces to reading. I remember with tRop I had to rewind a couple of scenes cuz there was so much happening on his (NingYi) face and I wanted to catch all of it.
  20. I was writing directly from my train of thought. Should've edited it lol. So its a self insert that betrays itself. Consider me educated Yeah that includes me haha. I mostly picked it up from the reviewer/critic crowd and thought I understood what it meant from the contexts they used it in but only now do I really get it. Ah better late than never. And I can't stand most fanfiction. Even though I'm open to it I usually can't make it through because the characters seem different from the original story. They don't even have to be Mary sues even slight changes to the essence of the characters puts me off. I like my characters to be consistent and changes ought to be in a gradient brought about by circumstance. The bigger the change the longer you have to walk me through it. Looking at you Zhiwei and NingYi from the last few episodes.
  21. So we're pretty much all on the same page. And RIGHT?? It is always females who get judged more harshly. I hate to admit but I'm guilty of it too. It irks me more when female characters display these traits. Maybe I take it personally because I think it reflects badly on me. Part of it is probably cultural conditioning too. But it is unfair that so many female characters are now easily dismissed as Mary Sues. Argh...I ought to start pointing out more Gary Stus now. On one hand reviewers can't wait to slap on the Mary Sue tag on any leading female character and on the other side there's a lot of lazy writers who don't know how to write strong females who aren't masculine/aggressive or know it alls. Havn't read the novel but from this description it still doesn't warrant a Mary Sue tag IMO. Of course the novel is about an extraordinary protagonist like many stories are. How many extraordinary "the chosen one" type stories are there about men? No one blinks an eye.
  22. @Pollen Ainne Hold up! So a Mary Sue only happens in fanfiction?? I feel like such an idiot, i just looked up Mary Sue and found the fanfiction connection. I didn't know there was a concept of a good mary sue and a bad one. Or that it mostly refers to a 'self-insert' character. No wonder all the varying types of characters described as Mary Sues By this definition in original fiction it describes a character that doesn't fit in with the storyverse? Maybe a character who is noticeably favoured by the God of the universe (a.k.a the writer). Sort of like a parent gushing over their kid saying theirs is the best but you can clearly see the bias. I thought it was just a particular type of character usually written by those who can't write 3D female characters. In order to make the character 'strong' they unnaturally overpower her to the point where she has few flaws, is usually right, everybody loves them but still comes across as a caricature but atleast shes "strong" now. Like the story keeps telling you shes the best but you're not convinced. And thanks for that bit about me imagining romancing Nanyi. I actually blushed reading that. LOOL
  23. For those who can't get enough of their sibmance. Damn Gu Nanyi really grew throughout the series. It's subtle but there. Should pay more attention to him next viewing.
  24. Hey! Just chiming in my support for posting your point of view earlier. I guess its awkward having a minority opinion but I'm happy to see any discussion at all about ROTP and seeing different perspectives keeps it interesting (think most on here would agree) . We all interpreted the show a bit differently. While I don't agree with you, the chin jutting thing was hilarious to read. I found NingYi's eccentricity in line with his character. In fact, if he wasn't oozing out a bit of crazy every now and then I'd find him really cold. The flashes of 'overreacting' and raw zeal made him more human. A disturbed human but human nevertheless. I guess at the end of the day the way Chen Kun interpreted NingYi worked for me but that doesn't mean it has to work for everyone. What we perceive as 'working' is pretty subjective and when it doesn't sit right it can throw you off. ------ Also what does everyone think a Mary Sue is? I thought it was an annoyingly perfect female character who doesn't demonstrate any skill/strength in the story but all the other characters keep going on that she's the best and fawning over her. And she's a bit arrogant too hence the 'annoying'. But I'm not sure anymore because I've seen a variety of characters now described as Mary Sue's and it seems like any unlikable female character is one? I can't imagine Zhi Wei being anywhere near Mary Sue territory, whatever the exact definitions are. NiNi's portrayal of Zhi Wei is one of the most dimensional I've seen for an 'innocent/good' character. She seemed like a real person from the very first scenes, even before we got to know her character.
  25. I don't think it is being shallow. He doesn't have to be tall and handsome. He just needs to be someone that can convince me that he could sit on the throne. I just could not see it. Didn't think of it at the time but now I too think his performance could've been more diabolical and ambitious. He didn't exhibit enough throne lust. Or maybe his character was truly a servant of dacheng and only motivated by his duty to the rightful empire. I'm impressed by the loyalty of dacheng supporters. I wish they expanded more on dacheng's legacy so we could understand these people more...maybe even root for them. I would've liked to see Qiu Mingying's point of view, in a way that makes us empathize with her. This would add more weight to Zhiwei's side of the story too and really make us appreciate the power and conflict of her position. Course the way the story progressed (zhiwei being passive and apathetic) didn't call for a background story but it just makes you sigh. We never got to see her become powerful even though its something her character initially wanted to be (albeit for noble/selfless reasons). We didn't get to see her shine in Minhai and after she found out she was infact princess, it hardly made a difference. It's such a let down after rooting for her and watching her grow in the previous episodes. Feng Hao might as well have been the real prince because Zhiwei did nothing significant as princess. If there was ever a story to equally develop both leads its this one. If it was even a slightly lesser heroine, NingYi (as portrayed by Chen Kun) could easliy stand on his own and I could've dismissed his tragic love as a side story in his larger story. But Zhiwei is not just a girl he crossed paths with and caught feelings. She is the catalyst for many arcs and her lineage makes her the most important person in the story after NingYi. Yup agreed. When casting is done right it shows immediately. Especially Prince of An. As much as I hate the direction the story took after minhai, his part of the story was very interesting. He had the potential to be a true antagonist to NingYi. I was kindof bummed he just died in the flood. NingQi shouldve disappeared like that lol or just been somewhere irrelevant in the side while Prince of An came back with renewed vigour to go against NingYi.
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