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I'm a bit disappointed at how they handle Eunsoo. Daeshik improves a lot compared to Season 1 and I like that what he chase is caught by him, not Derek (or Jinhyuk in the past). So, when I watched Eunsoo enter the secret room by herself, and after it's shown that the main culprit is also woman, I expected high that this would be her moment. I know this case is her first mission as dispatch team member, but still, her opponent is a woman like her! Or maybe this eps is for Daeshik since he captures two culprits.
On 7/3/2021 at 11:26 PM, jouleoppa said:I'm amazed how taking off a mask mean Circus Man's body also turn as a man. I know Lee Hana play double role which is amazing, but at least, they could hire actor with slender body type to be the real Circus Man even if Lee Kyuhyung is great to play villain (I know him from Secret Forest).
Ok, so Eps 9 explain this. I dont check the realism but I'm okay with that since Kwonjoo's hearing ability itself is beyond normal. My complain is... they said the files is from FBI but why does the paper need to be translated to hangul?????
I hope Voice Japan Season 2 could ease my frustration about small mistake like this. You guys need to give a try to watch its adaptation of Season 1, I guarantee the procedural and the crime solving does make sense more. They dont copy 1:1 from original.
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I take my word a bit.
I've watched Eps 6 and it's nice to see Joongki notices the man in the cliff isn't dead by committing suicide.
The cops in Season 01 are very dumb because they always easily said the culprits commit suicide twice.
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Procedural get better and better, is this effect of US investigation team? Haha. Man, I like Derek Jo so far. Jinhyuk is the least smart, Kangwoo has sharp observation but he can't control his anger and emotion, but Derek is so professional. Anyway. I like that Derek Jo calm the villain like the FBI agents in Criminal Minds do. (when I said Criminal Minds, it refers to the original one from CBS, not that one suck Korean adaptation) And I always like the episodic case.
Daeshik seems to get better role, I hope the PD team has learned how to empower him from his counterpart in Japan adaptation and let him sometimes beat up the criminal or get a clue. And I wish Joongki and Kwangsoo get that too even if it was just beating up the gangs. My problem in K-drama is just how they rely too much to the lead male when VOICE is about team (I really grumble because J-drama in this genre handle better about teamwork). When I said this, it ain't about Joongki and Kwangsoo get personal case involving their wife, but their function in the team for not just running and running seeking the culprit. At least, Joongki is now the team captain so he could give Derek order.
Though, I dont get why Derek become a part of Golden Time Team when their daily case isn't intersected with the main case (aka chasing Circus Man who killed his sister). I still get why he help to rescue the ahjumma in the dog case because she's one of passenger and he needs to ask her. But the next one with drug dealers and female divers?
I'm amazed how taking off a mask mean Circus Man's body also turn as a man. I know Lee Hana play double role which is amazing, but at least, they could hire actor with slender body type to be the real Circus Man even if Lee Kyuhyung is great to play villain (I know him from Secret Forest).
Other critic is when Kang Center could translate Russian. I mean, we have the multi-language officer since season 01. The scene would be better if she just told Derek about someone suspicious talking in foreign language. Then, after they they catch the Russia guy, he talked in Russian instead of English so Derek/Kwonjoo need to ask Eunsoo about it. It'd also be better if she spoke in english sometimes with Derek when his LAPD teammate is around instead of taking Eunsoo's specialty role. We know she studied in US to be voice profiler in Season 01 before returning to South Korea Police Agency. So why not show her english ability?
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Next question, how the hell could local police in LA across their jurisdiction to investigate abroad? Not interpol or something?
On 5/25/2021 at 3:37 AM, msaamia said:Omg I am so excited for this season but it seems that Kwon Joo's PTSD is super bad (she might be the evil one in this one or might be just imagining herself as the evil one). I really hope we get Kwon Joo a love interest this time. Its high time now poor girl
But its nice to see everyone on this forum from last year!
She wont be the evil one, we have mysterious woman talking to Bang Je Soo in S3 Ending. I dont wanna be frustrated like S2-S3 guessing if Do Kang Woo really committed crime when his dissociative disorder strike and I bet they dont use the same formula. The villain has same voice and ability as Kwon Joo, that's probably why we see two version of Lee Hana in teaser here. And if she was being framed, remember what happen to Kang Woo and now she experience it, her PTSD could strike.
Derek Jo would return to LA after the entire case is resolved so I doubt he can be love interest better than Kang Woo.
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I just can comment that this drama is total opposite of Flower of Evil:
a serial killer dad but had a kind son
a doctor who save a life but had a psycho son
It's not because of gene and more realistic
Poor Jung Bareum.
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kettlebell crushing skull
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Now an axe decapitates their victims, wow!
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On 5/10/2021 at 1:08 PM, Ellander88 said:
Oh, the page is ready. @nateko @jouleoppa @mrsj3n and others.. I forgot what their username was or changed into hahahah
My question, the new pretty guy as cyber agent... does he replace the previous agent in S2-S3 or would the two work together?
Anyway, I'm here for both Korean S4 and Japan S2. And I still run this fansite: https://voicedaily.tumblr.com/ If you had tumblr, help me there haha.
Just in case you dunno, Japan Adaptation of Voice will air their Season 2 one week right after Voice 4 ends. I think they have original story since Moo Jin Hyuk (JP character name: Higuchi Shogo) is still the captain instead of Do Kang Woo. I dunno where the thread for the Japan one is since this forum is mostly about Korea. But I can say, J-drama handle the procedural far far better and very realistic that makes me get annoyed at Korean Cops in K-drama even in Voice. But hey, I will always be a fan of this series.
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5 minutes ago, ellelyana88 said:
Yeah, I will watch it too out of curiosity. Will wait for the sub for the first two episodes (wait, does Japanese drama airs two episodes per week?)
No, it's one a week. And they're supposed to be 9-11 eps. I think they would solve one case one eps like others procedural jdrama. Tbh, I was surprised when I knew kdrama is aired two eps in a week.
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Haha, Pertiwi, at first I was a bit mad they pick Universitas Indonesia as the top university, not my almamater. That's cool that they really changed the character background. But, tbh I just know about sumpitan there lmao. Well, the word "sumpitan" is very linguistic in Bahasa, but I might not notice it even if they kept making her from Vietnam.
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I may give a try to watch japanese remake of Voice S1, it's gonna be aired this Saturday (July 13). I'll go checking if Waku Waku Japan aired it or VIU had it. Actually, I don't watch a lot of K-dramas like you guys, I watched many J-dramas because I diverted it from Kamen Rider show I used to follow and wanna see a manga live action hahaha.
Btw, I'm still running my Voice blog on tumblr so I'm still here to check info. And I wanted to make some gifset too. I think I'm not moving on [laughs]
@msaamia I finished watching Secret Forest on TVN Asia, it was being aired after VOICE S1 last year. I just wanna know the culprit in the end haha, but still, it's confusing to me. I dont like prosecutor world in K-drama. I ever watched a kind of corruption in police agency in J-drama but I understand it better, just the police who are involved and being the leads, no prosecutors or lawyers.
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1 hour ago, sheelatpsfm said:
Watcher has taken over Voice 3.. At least I am healing by watching another good drama that has taken over from Voice 3
I'm patiently waiting for Strangers from Hell, that's my list after VOICE S3. Corruption isn't my thing, I ever tried to watch Secret Forest but I was confused a lot hahaha.
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5 hours ago, jouleoppa said:
Actually, since Season 2, I’m kind of expecting him to die to by sacrificing himself as his proof to never give up ‘til the end….. not like this!!! It’s clearly a suicide, selfish, as he let the SWAT team shoot him dead after they warned him. What’s the point he still saved a little girl from gas if that’s not his last fight? He could hold himself not to kill BJS and KKJ but afterall he lost the final battle against Kaneki, he lost to his own demon.
I rethink about DKW's death once again in more positive view and edit my statement above.
I accept that his life is tragic, even more tragic because we got a hope that his mental disorder could be cured abroad but fate took him away, that he was about to save Kang Kwonjoo from being cut by Kaneki but The SWAT Team didn’t view it that way as they just arrived. As @ellelyana88 said, they could’ve made the SWAT team arrive during the scene when Kaneki is the one who strangle him and perhaps work something from there causing both of them being shot. At least, it didn’t sound he give up of his life nor wanna kill himself because he’s kind of letting The SWAT team shoot him by ignoring their alert to make a move. I think he didn’t mean to lose to his own demon, he already won it as he returned to himself while about strangling KKJ. it was him being a neutral human, but it was really a unfortunate timing that The SWAT team just arrived during his action. He even shed a tear when the lasers pointing him!! I don’t know about Law in South Korea. What I get from Western Procedural Series is, sometimes, killing the bad guy is necessary, didn’t OCN air Western Procedural Series, too? That's why I’m okay if Do Kang Woo decided to kill his evil brother, it does not automatically make him an equal evil as Kaneki too although Kaneki thanked him to murder his own brother. In moral alignment chart, I can see he is Neutral character, not really a Good one as Kang Kwon Joo nor an Evil one like all villains here. Neutral can be a dangerous alignment when it represents apathy, indifference, and a lack of conviction but Do Kang Woo didn’t represent those. And if he didn’t kill Kaneki, who guarantee Kaneki wouldn’t escape from prison like Bang Je Soo did as he should have more accomplices? It was sad that only the viewers knowing his intention on strangling Kaneki at the first place while from The Police’s POV who just arrived, it looks like he was about killing someone. Even if Kang Kwon Joo believed that he made a sacrifice, she didn’t witness how he tried to save her as her last moment is she seeing him strangling her to faint. She can’t made a statement to justify his last action and clear his name accurately to perhaps get a proper burial as if he was still a police officer honorably. Double tragic and maybe not everyone get this point.
I've been mixing a song playlist of DKW since I roleplayed him, will share it here later.
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1 hour ago, nateko said:
Her korean fans are against her taking on Voice 4 and think that the writer has become greedy thinking that LHN will only do voice. I kinda agree. After 3 years of filming only Voice I think it's for the very best for her to take on another project. I personally can't wait till LHN and LJW take other drama roles. Really want to see them on my screen again.
The last BTS video is very short but it has some funny and lighthearted scenes that somewhat helped me cheer up a bit. Now that there's no hope left it's easier to move on.
The writer might've ruined DKW's story, but I love VOICE for the heart and the thriller of their episodic cases. Thus, I'm still up for new season and Voice can't be without Kang Center. I'm not against LHN taking a break to do another role at least 1-2 romantic drama before going back to Voice if they really decided to produce Season 04. That's why I also wish the writer and the production team would take a break too before continue the series, see Save Me Season 2 and God's Quiz for example. They need to evaluate their production.
1 hour ago, Kiya Kiki said:And I'm watching A Tiger in Winter, hoping LJW would do genre like that instead of something like High Society.
As for LJW, I favor him doing a lot of action and DKW really give him different image from a romantic lead actor he used to do a lot in previous works. So, I would like him to do similar project again, not turning into romance or romcom after VOICE. We see Gong Yoo in The Suspect, we see Hyun Bin in The Negotiation, why not Lee Jin Wook? I watched him in The Target and Time Renegades but those are not enough, he is A-List actor, right?
THIS!! I QUOTE YOU.
They could've make the SWAT team arrive during the scene when Kaneki is the one who strangle KW, and perhaps work something from there causing both of them being shot.
Damn, many scenarios they still could pick to kill him better but the actual ending.
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6 hours ago, nateko said:
She said that KW basically died for KJ and the GTT. Like what? Seriously?
Actually, since Season 2, I’m kind of expecting him to die to by sacrificing himself as his proof to never give up ‘til the end….. not like this!!! It’s clearly a suicide, selfish, as he let the SWAT team shoot him dead after they warned him. What’s the point he still saved a little girl from gas if that’s not his last fight? He could hold himself not to kill BJS and KKJ but afterall he lost the final battle against Kaneki, he lost to his own demon. I prefer the better execution of how he should die i.e the bad guy kill him unexpectedly, or the basement crashes down because Kaneki set a bomb (like he did to KKJ in S2 final) but he already rescued KKJ and Detective Park to go outside safely. I know it’s still tragic because we got a hope that he could be cured abroad but fate took him away, but at least it’s more honorable and heroic, and THAT’S WHAT WE COULD CALL SACRIFICE, WRITER-NIM!! That’s what I ever imagined when I roleplayed him, an opposite ending of how KKJ could survive the bomb in S2 but DKW couldn’t in S3. And yes, no need much melodrama of that scene, quick and not much painful, I still like the single shot on the head compared to Kill It tho’. That’s why I was hoping it’s BJS who infiltrate the SWAT team and shoot him when I saw the spoiler everywhere that he seems to carry the case of rifle, but I watched the full eps with subtitle and in the epilogue, BJS just opened the case after the woman told him. Pfftttt…. My hope is definitely crushed now.
He shed a tear in this scene btw, damn.
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12 hours ago, ellelyana88 said:
How am I holding up?
Mmm.. I watch KKJ X DKW fmv.
I'm completely their trash.
Dang! Their story is such a tragic.
I was hoping at least I could see a smile from KW to KJ this season, finally.
But...
Couple of latest edits.
Cr to respective YT owners.
I like those ones, havent made my own fanvid about them yet.
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OCN put subtitle in these interviews.
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41 minutes ago, Kiya Kiki said:
And I really like how they shoot DKW on that rooftop it's so cool remind me of Batman Begin, it'd be great if you put it on Tumblr
I've posted it on my tumblr. feel free to reblog: https://ocnvoice-daily.tumblr.com/post/185699573402/
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Q:Talking about season 2, if it happen, you won't be there and that's sad.
A: Personally, yes I am sad. But I also think if indeed season 2 is produced, the villains in the story can be constantly changing like in Gotham City and they could pick any timeline they want to.
(---KIM JAE WOOK'S INTERVIEW APRIL 1ST 2017)
Meanwhile, Do Kang Woo is in Gotham City
Those are my gifs, I haven't made the one that he's driving Batmobile in the next eps [laughs]
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7 hours ago, Kiya Kiki said:
But I doubt LJW will be back tho, I'd like to think 2 seasons are enough for him, and I don't think he's that kind of actor who'd take the same project in a row. Isn't he one of the A list actor? A list actor don't usually take sequel offer. I think it's best for KW to end it in this season (like Jang Hyuk did) while KJ's character has more potential to be developed.
Also I think it's still hard for K-actors to star in seasonal drama, they'll be very attached with their drama characters and most likely will be remembered as their drama characters, thus make it hard for them to get other drama roles.
But we still have 4 episodes left and if KW got cliffhanger ending, I hope LJW took the S4 offer.
I think S4 and S5 can be one related story like how they cut S2 and S3. Western series sometimes also cut one story arc in 2-3 seasons and leave it as cliffhanger. So, whatever the ending is, DKW's character might and might not be included. I dont watch many K-Drama, but from what I googled in curiosity, different from Jang Hyuk and Kim Jae Wook who took many different roles, Lee Jin Wook is a typical lead for romance drama for so long and I'm sure VOICE has given him a brand new image to be attached for next! He also played three times as Detective but still, I think VOICE has challenged him the most as a psychopath too, he's acting out of his previous roles. That's why I hope he would still take the offer for next season unless DKW is dead.
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4 hours ago, lilyphenix said:
@nateko I wish she had added a voice to her post!
More seriously I think the speculations are right. I hope there will be a season 4. That drama is highly addictive, and the story so well written and enacted. I hope we won't wait too long (like 2 years or so) for the next season. I'm wondering if the writers are at work already. Also hoping the drama sells well internationally. It's a nail-biting thriller.
Yes, there will be season 4 even 5.
The chairman of the studio has said it in interview. The writer has written it. I think I have informed it already in old post. OCN's goal is to make seasonal series like western series, see God's Quiz despite the low rating compared to VOICE.
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Dont worry, girls. I'm planning to make at least one fanvid of DKW x KKJ. I've arranged a playlist about them too for season 2.
This is my video of season 1-2 about Hero vs Villain tho'. Idk if I should share it here since this is thread for season 3. But I share it anyway haha.
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Voice S4 and S5 is already prepared by the studio. I guess the story between those two seasons are continuously connected like how they wrap S2-S3 up. I hope the characters in the golden time team are still the same; look at how Quiz from God made it happen until S5 despite low ratings. But if they didn't, I'll still watch it. OCN's goal or dream is actually to make many seasonal series like the western one, not typical kdrama. I forget where I read the translation of the interview, it's on Twitter.
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You know... If KJW made a lead, the second lead wont catch your attention and has no chance at all. If KJW made the second lead, you will feel sorry for him and wish he get the girl. He would leave a high standard as how no one can forget the strong impression of him being a sadist and charismatic serial killer and being an exorcist priest, others will keep being compared to him.
Anyway, I love PMY. She's so cute as fangirl and so elegant as professional curator.
Romance is not my cup of tea tbh, but this drama is less drama haha. So I like to follow it. All the fluff interactions make my wife goe awwww and want to do or treat me the same haha. We both watch it via TVN Asia as I subscribe cable TV.
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Long time not speaking up here. Do you miss me, girls? [laughs] I follow this series on TVN Asia as I subscribe a cable TV. And tonight, I'll watch eps 6.
I like the OST btw, the metal version suit the theme of season 3 which is about KKJ dealing with the damage of her hearing ability and DKW's dealing with his psychopathic DID. If you remember, the rock version in season 2 fits the spirited theme of KKJ's sharp hearing (ears) combined with DKW's sharp observing (eyes) as duo. And the ballad version in season 1 fits the theme of both KKJ and MJH's grief for the loss of their beloved ones.
Also, let's mention the first murderer in prolog is a Noh killer (and I still dunno if he was also the Wire Shun who also wears BJS's mask in S2 eps 1 when he killed DKW's friend, the same mask DKW's wear in KKJ's nightmare). And the other mask is Hannya killer. They're the name of the Japanese traditional masks shown here btw, so let's use that term to not confuse each other (vampire mask? pure white mask?). Anyway, I'm a bit mad why the killing scene in Eps 1 used Mozart's Lacrimosa, it's MTG's devil trademark. They should use japanese folk song or samisen music in eerie/creepy melody.
That's all. I dont wanna speculate more and just enjoy the story. I'm ready to see Kousuke in full consciousness to riot and how KKJ will return his identity back to be the tsundere DKW she knew. Or, will she shoot him dead with no choice?
All the dark woods scenes remind me of OCN Tunnel, well, same director anyway.
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But its nice to see everyone on this forum from last year!
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Actually, when season 3 ended, there was a news from the studio or CJ entertainment that Ma Ji-won had written the story till Season 5. So, I wasn't surprised at all with the ending and I thought everyone knows this because Bang Jesoo need closure and we cant leave him wandering around in Season 3. Suddenly, he become my favorite guy lol. He has angelic face, the less scary villain, but he is the last man standing. I want to see more of his skills, he is an ex-UDT marine afterall.
Voice Japan Season 2 is still lead by the same character as Moo Jinhyuk who came back after his son being cured in US. But in Korean case, different from Baek Sunghyun who was absent due to military duty and return in Season 4, I heard Jang Hyuk isnt interested at playing in the sequel. It's in general, not only in VOICE, that's why they wrap new story and create Do Kangwoo as totally a new character. Cameo is the best thing for Jang Hyuk to appear and I hope he review it.
Doesn't Chad tell him to take a vacation and stay in Korea for a while? Actually, 12 of 14 eps happening in Vimo Island just happened in one week. So, think about season 5 wrapped in 1-2 weeks too and then he can return to LA or he'd be deported. But yeah, he's being off of the job and doesnt work as an official cop but GTT must accept his voluntary deed to seek Kwonjoo and Police Agency may hire him personally for that mission only. I think it's just like Do Kangwoo in season 3, he has quitted but then they ask him to work again.
EDIT: I almost forgot that Fabre Lab is location in US so Derek Jo could still take a lead officially if season 5 took place there. But idk about GTT, Korea Police Agency may offer partnership investigation. But will the production team really shoot in US? Let's wait the news.