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Nope, no, uh-huh, not acceptable.
Finally saw the last episode, and... nope.
Couldn't SOMEONE get a happy ending? Was this necessary? Nope.
Seriously, even as it was happening, I was thinking "He could have shot out the pin from the other side, or he could have shot it and then jumped. This doesn't work. I can accept everything else, but this doesn't make sense."
I mean, I guess that the writers wanted to honor the truth of war by killing everyone? I guess? But the only survivor was the least interesting and least compelling character!
Honestly, I don't even want to go back and watch favorite scenes now, knowing how it ends. It's not all the death that gets to me. That was always going to be part of it. It's the way it played out.
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8 hours ago, rubie said:
Considering the old-fashioned way of photographs were taken, it'll definitely take awhile to develop the photos. Eugene might leave a forwarding address in the US or if he has none.. sent to the American Legation in Tokyo c/o Major Kyle Moore or the shop might forward it to Hee Sung instead since his address is in their records. Realistically, neither Eugene nor Ae Shin will have the photo in those 3 years. But EC went to see Kyle after he got out of jail, presumably still stationed in Tokyo.. so, he might have visited the shop again.
Not really. I used to be a photography (back in the dinosaur days of negatives and film), and I know a little about the history of photography. At that point in history, the old plate daguerreotypes had gone out, and a precursor to what we think of when we think of negatives had come in. (Thanks, George Eastman!) Even back then, it was a chemical wash for the negatives, dry it, expose the paper, a chemical wash for the paper, dry the paper. The exact type of negative, paper, and chemicals have changed, but the hand-developing process can still be completed in a couple of hours. The photographer would have had to be paid a nice sum to do a rush job and have the print ready that day, but it could have been ready for pick-up the next day. (TBH, the same would have been true of the photo taken of Ae-Shin's parents, although it would have involved a different kind of photography. The print would have been ready whenever the photographer decided it was time to set up the dark room, pour out trays of chemicals, etc., likely whenever he had several to process at once.)
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Re-watching bits of the last episode, and I'm still annoyed at Eugene's "treason" conviction. Treason, in the US, is only waging war against the state, or aiding the enemy. Firing a single bullet at a building doesn't qualify as treason. If he really had committed a treasonous act, he'd get a lot more than 3 years!
Ah, well, who care about reality?
The rings, too. Matching couple rings were NOT a thing back then! Many American men didn't bother with wedding rings at all, and the ones who did wear one usually wore a plain band, NOT something that matched the lady's ring. It make for some sweet scenes, but I just cringe at the anachronism. Might as well give them matching t-shirts.
Also, Dong-Mae needs a hug.
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16 hours ago, charray said:
Kim Min Jae will make a special appearance in last episode. Another new character appearing in the last episode. Fans in Weibo are speculating if he will be the offspring of one of the characters maybe Ae Shin and Eugene or Hui Seong and the former noble lady that he met?
He might also be a grown-up Do-Mi.
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11 hours ago, mistergenie said:
@q4q4 Another time jump? Be careful what you wish for because what if we flash forward to 1945? Eh? Would that do?
We may see a future mirroring of the photo of Ae-Shin's parents, when her and Eugene's child or grandchild has that photo of them in 40 or 50 years.
9 hours ago, linygirl1 said:Does anyone think there is more to why EVERYONE wants Ashin to survive? EC, DM and HS love her, KH is taking orders from the palace, the RA feels they owe her but there must be another reason. I have a far fetched idea. Could she have ties to the throne we dont know about yet? Yes, her family is important to the King but why her specifically? The whole of Joeson seems to be vested in her survival... She is our stories heroine and that should be enough but I have a feeling there may be a deeper motivation to the conspiracy of her survival.
Because she's a perfect sparkly unicorn who can do no wrong, and all the boys love her. In other words, tv heroine.
10 hours ago, aurelionsol said:DM and Hina reunion, but what is their role in the RA? I have no idea.
Hina's been part of the resistance in many ways for quite a while now. All Dong-Mae has done is save his crush (and, seriously, they never speak, but he's still fussed over his unending love for her?)
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21 hours ago, ssh king said:
No preview. I saw the girls blown away by the blast.
I'm convinced that Ae-Shin will survive, although badly injured, and here will be a big scene where she opens her eyes and sees Eugene standing over her. ( I KNEW HE'D GO AWAY AND COME BACK!) Because this is a drama, they will still be madly in love with one another after all this time. There will finally be some physical contact between them.
As for Hina.... hhmmmm... she could be dead. Or Dong-Mae could realize that she's the one he loves. Or not. I have no idea. We're losing characters left and right here.
What happened to the hotel staff? Did they know to get out?
We won't see Hotaru again, unless she's suddenly Yoojo's woman.
Why did it take Dong-Mae three years to come back?
Why is that girl still following "Young Master" around after all this time? And why is he still pining for Ae-Shin? Oh, right sorry, it's all about the unrequited love.
American men in those years rarely wore wedding rings, and they definitely didn't wear cute rings that matched their wives' rings. Couple rings weren't a thing in 1904.
Takashi using various people, including that woman who was probably his wife or something, as human shields. Oh my. His wife looked pissed off.
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On 9/16/2018 at 8:43 AM, mistergenie said:
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME WITH THIS RIDICULOUS TIME JUMP? SERIOUSLY, WHAT THE ACTUAL FRAK?
RIGHT?!?
I fully expected a time jump, since there s always one in these things, but I hoped that 6 months Ae-Shin was gone would be it. Nope. Okay, maybe he just goes to the US and then comes back? Nope. Gotta be three years, with no contact.
Also, what he did wasn't treason, and treason doesn't get you three years in prison. But... let's ignore that.
10 hours ago, rubie said:... my actor wearing colored contact lenses....
No one's eyes are that color! Okay, maybe someone, but not him. I guess someone thought that unusually blue eyes would make him look more western?
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I have a question about the girl we met in the first or second episodes- the one who told Ae-Shin that she's studying English "for love", which prompted Ae-Shin's whole "let's do love" thing. We've seen her studying with Ae-Shin since then, but there's no mention of what prompted her "for love" comment. I figured it meant that she had a man who was an English speaker, but we've seen no evidence of that. Without her having someone who told her about "love", and thus prompted her to study the language, it seems like a weird and awkward way to get Ae-Shin to talk about love, and to go to the school. Was there anything about her that I missed? It seems like the writers set something up, and then jut dropped it.
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17 hours ago, rubie said:
*Picks up table to be flipped again*
Well.. we could see it this way.. the drama doesn't end too soon on the 22-23/9 weekend. It's unavoidable because on Chuseok, there'll be special festive programs and movies screened on tv. MR.SUNSHINE wasn't affected by the Asian Games before, unlike other dramas, it was not postponed although ratings dropped a bit. So.. this the time to test the 'patience' of viewers.. in the cruelest way possible.
Credit: kimjihyeon_21
That would explain why Netflix isn't showing that there are two more episodes at the end. I'm annoyed- the 22nd is my birthday! Guess I'll just have to spend that time rewatching previous episodes...
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On 9/13/2018 at 5:37 AM, mistergenie said:
At this point, considering the direction of the drama, America ain't happening. It only ever was a futile hope.
The bare optimism that I can scrounge at this point, is holding a teeny tiny bit of hope for some kind of future for EC/AS in Shanghai. Otherwise, all available signs portend doom(for the character/s) and gloom (for us , the viewers).
I don't know. I think that moment between them by the globe foreshadowed a journey. She said that America is 2-and-a-half handspans away, so it would take a long time to go there and come back. He said it was only one-and-a-half handspans for him, so he could travel more quickly. I think she won't go, but he will, but then he'll quickly return.
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3 hours ago, cynkdf said:
Hi @rubie thanks for your kind invitation and sorry to cut your post. HCY just sang a little of his OST an hour or so ago during his vlive session (am I allowed to post an instagram link?)
I looked him up, since I wasn't familiar with the actor or his work, and wow, is he versatile!
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3 hours ago, SeReNiTy said:
Hello All, I've been a silent lurker here but truly enjoy reading everyone's responses/discussions and news articles about Mr. Sunshine!
There are 4 more episodes left and things are just getting intense. MS fighting!!
I just want to add to @burningpotato's question.
The order not only shows State of Washington, but they also listed the wrong president. FDR didn't serve as President until 1933 (he was the Governor of New York in 1904), and Theodore R. was still in office as President in 1904. I don't know why the facts are changed, but it's been fun pointing them out...hehe.
I didn't even notice that! (I never got past "State of Washington".) Yes, a Roosevelt was president then, but it was the other Roosevelt!
While we're at it, did anyone think, while watching the first episode and seeing Eugene arriving in the US, "Wow, San Francisco looks a lot like NYC", and then realize he was actually supposed to be arriving in NYC? I assumed the port of entry would be San Francisco, since that was the major west coast US city then, but then I realized they were arriving in New York, and I figured they must have gone aaaallllll the way around the southern tip of South America, you know, since the Panama Canal didn't exist yet? No big deal, until Eugene said that it took him a month to get to America on that ship. Would going from Seoul to New York City by ship in just one month even have been possible?????
Oh, and then he's shown at the Naval Academy, for some reason, and then in D.C., talking to President (Theodore) Roosevelt. Okay, Annapolis and D.C. aren't too far apart. But then he's suddenly back in NYC, like, later that day, or something? How? How did that happen?
Who on the production team was supposed to be in charge of looking at maps??????
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9 hours ago, rocher22 said:
The scenes between Dong Mae and EC, and their conversations
are always very calming.
They went through those reports calmly, and they found what
they were looking for.
I liked that little smile on ECs face when DM came to meet him
infront of the post office.
I love how their grudging friendship has developed. I know it's an unpopular opinion here, but Dong-Mae's probably my favorite character. He's written with some complexity and realism. Actually, all three of Ae-Shin's men are really interesting to me: Hui-Seung, which has already chosen between his family's past and his own future, Eugene, who will soon have to decide between his two homelands; and Dong-Mae, who chose to be Japanese in the past, but seems to have chosen to be Korean again when he "came home", and now has to make another choice about his identity. They've all run way, ad they've all come back, and they've all had to struggle with their identities. Hui-Seung represents the change in the established old order, and Dong-Mae and Eugene represent the rising up of the lower classes in different ways. They're more interesting to me than Ae-Shin, who has always seemed just a smidge too perfect.
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Regarding the coffee-truffle things-
A version of instant coffee has been around since the 1880's. A few people have said that the product shown in the show is entirely new, either created for the show and then released to consumers, or created for mass retail and shown in the show. While the people behind Mr. Sunshine haven't always been careful with historical facts, this seems pretty far out there in terms of anachronism. Are ya'll sure that the new product has no historical equal?
ETA: Oh, it seems the exact brand may be linked to the show, but the concept of coffee cubes is not new: https://www.jivacubes.com/
ETA2: Now I'm reading that a sort of liquid-instant coffee was used during the American Civil War. It tasted terrible, though, and everyone hated it, so they stopped making it. I'm... learning a lot over here.
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Four more episodes, right? Why is Netflix acting like there are only two more? It lists 22 episodes. Why not 24?
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Okay, just saw 19 and 20, read the last seven pages of comments, and I HAVE THINGS TO SAY.
I've been waiting for Eugene to offer to help Ae-Shin by making her the wife of an American citizen. It seemed like she was asking (or about to ask) him for this very thing. My prediction: they'll get married for real (legally, no big ceremony), which they'll both keep saying is for the cause, even though they really are not at all unhappy to be married to one another. They'll get married in Japan, though, since she's an unofficially wanted woman in Joseon.
On Eugene going back to his homeland: at some point in the next four episodes, he's going to declare that he's already in his homeland. (He has a mountain, after all!)I *still* don't fully understand the hair-cutting thing. Was there some significance that was supposed to come out later, or was this yet another time when everyone was telling everyone else what to do, exacting promises, taking actions to protect one another, and then all plans changed when everyone just decided they were going to do whatever they wanted, anyway?
Poor Gunner Jang!
Did anyone else notice that the paper Kyle handed Eugene said "State of Washington" on it? What? Why? What would Washington state have to do with a Marine officer's transfer orders? Oh, did they confuse the state of Washington with Washington, D.C.? Loads of weird little (and big) inaccuracies regarding the US in this thing, but that one... I mean... why?
What's going on with Dong-Mae and Hotaru in the preview?
I want to know Yoojo's back story, too.
Is this going to be another one of those dramas where the main couple are separate for a year during the last episode, and are still as much in love as ever when they get back together? I mean, they were already separated for 6 months, right? Can we skip all that this time?
Possible ending: Eugene and Ae-shin's deaths mirror her parents' deaths in Japan. Their child is smuggled away and raised by Hui-Seung and and Hina.
Mori with that child in the preview. Is Eugene going to find out that Mori had a family he didn't know about and then feel bad about killing him?
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First time here. I found this forum because I've been dying to discuss Mr. Sunshine with someone, and I don't know anyone else who is watching it! Please forgive me if I repeat some things others have covered- I only read the last 10 or so pages, and looked at the first 5 or 6 and a few others in between, as I searched out specific topics and characters. Hard to keep up!
Does anyone else think Kyle Moore will somehow end up being a bad guy? I can't think of what other purpose he serves, other than to give Eugene someone to speak to in English. (Also, I'm bothered by the use of Kyle as his name. It may have seemed like a typical American name to the writer, but it was extremely uncommon in 1860 or so, when the character would have been born.)
Are there any hints about Hina's mother? For a while, I thought Hina and Ae-Sin would end up being sisters, and that Wan-Ik had murdered his own (former) wife!
What's up with Hotaru? Poor thing's clearly in love with Dong-Mae. When Hee-Sung asked if she was his sister, and Dong-Mae said no, they just live together, then Hee-Sung said something like "I didn't know you had a wife" and Dong-Maw said "You know who I like"... I noticed Dong-Mae didn't exactly say they weren't married, did he? I wonder if they have a marriage of convenience. I don't know how Japanese citizenship worked back then, but might marrying her have been for him to become legally Japanese? She's way closer to him than the other guys, and he obviously cares about her, but he has Ae-Sin on a very high pedestal.
Speaking of Dong-Mae and Ae-Sin... THE HAIR! Some people here have given some theories. I think it's going to come back to the idea that cutting your hair, in the old Confucian way of thinking, was an act of disrespect toward your parents. Men at that time were cutting their hair to modernize and Westernize, but women had no reason to cut their hair, since Western women in those days had long hair, too. Dong-Mae had just found out that Lee Wan-Ik was looking into her parents as potential rebels, and when she confirmed that she wasn't going to turn from that path, he created a situation where she would look, for all the world to see, like she had a made a public declaration against her family, or at least her parents. And, of course, he did it in the most Don-Mae way possible.
I figured, from the beginning, that Ae-Sin would end up with one of her three men, one would become a rebel, and one would die for her or for their cause. Dong-Mae surviving the shooting. Threw my theory off.
Ooh, one more thing- when Ae-Sin was playing with the Russian nesting doll, did anyone else think she might find a secret message from Joseph? Or was that just me?
No, two more things- how many episodes? Netflix seems to indicate 22 (meaning 4 more), but some people are talking very recently about 6 more? Are there 22 or 24?
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[Drama 2018] Mr. Sunshine, 미스터 션샤인 - Winner of Critics’ Choice Award for Drama category
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In neither country (his or hers) would an actual ceremony have been required. Common law marriage was allowed at the time, too, so a marriage certificate wasn't even really required. They could just declare themselves married, which they did.