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  1. 1 hour ago, enigmatic_zephy said:


    if you committ suicide, that is the biggest sin and hence you deserve the worst punishment


    So, your mission is to fall in love. And the day you fall in love, if protecting that love requires you to give up everything and turn to dust (destroy yourself, go through immense pain for eternity).. guess what you are going to sacrifice yourself..


    the heaven you were waiting for will be meaningless

    to leave your love behind and go away from her life is painful

    and you basically die a painful death because that is just what you must do!



    So, your punishment of committing suicide.. fall in love.. and fall in love with the girl you have always admired.. who is your prettiest memory (whether you remember or not)

    Then what about the YS lookalike that hung herself? Why isn’t she an angel now too on a mission to fall in love? (But I see your point, because in childhood flashbacks it seems Dan had committed suicide as. Kid and jumped in the water..unless he was murdered cause he also looks like he had been an abused kid back then.)


    24 minutes ago, mylovekge said:


    I have so many things I wanna say but they always end up in a bubble lol


    - For now, we think she's just a doppelganger. Not sure about her committing suicide but she could have done this to free JKW from her. An angel who wasnt supposed to fall in love with a human. 

    - The accident looked like it was planned seeing how evil her aunt is. Of course, everyone will think its the evil one lol but a possible plot twist could be, that it was Ni Na's doing. 

    - Car accident - woah, i never thought of it this way but this could actually be possible.

    - Totally agree with you here. He's just as bad if he's done nothing to stop them.

    - Dan's mission is to find love for YS. He could very well be the 'love' he is trying to look for but doesnt know this yet. Because he will be trying so hard to push these feelings away knowing the consequences. 

    - I may be biased here because im a huge SHS fan but she really is a versatile and has portrayed a variety of characters with ease. Certainly one of the most talented actresses. Just to add, I must say her chemistry with L is off the charts!  

    Agree with everything chingu, especially the chemistry! Forgot to mention that part but I thought the same thing. It was so magnetic during the kiss scene, how like just from the brush of their lips he got addicted and leaned in for more, kissing her full on. I was not expecting that and absolutely adored it. Getting addicted myself and wanting more haha I cannot wait for future kiss scenes! 


    18 minutes ago, Ni Wen said:

    Welcome to this room @philosophie

    . I think Malti did not commit suicide, she was shot.

    . YS  stage accident is obviously not just an accident. Like I've said before, my feel tells me it could be Runa.

    . Dan is a naive angel. He thinks everyone is nice just because they appear nice and mean because they appear to. I can't stand it when he says Nina is so nice. Oh well probably she's really being nice but i can't stand her nicey nicey attitude when she's got a whole fake family aiming to harm YS in any way they can. Dan still needs to grow some sense and differentiate who's pretending to be nice and who's really nice. I'm looking forward to seeing this growth in him.

    . What's really heaven's plans for Dan is still a question mark. Let's wait and see.

    . YS or SHS. Yes love her so much too. I can't keep repeating myself how much of a gem she is. She is what I'm here for. :)

    I’ve always had a feeling it was Runa too. Only after that scene where she ran over animal and had no remorse, justifying it to younger sister. That’s when I started to suspect her as the culprit behind YS incident becoming blind.


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  2. I am loving this show guys! Just a couple of things.

    • art angel; is YS a reincarnation of his past love or just a doppelgänger/someone who happens to have same face as her? Why do you guys think she committed suicide? Is art angel still an angel, since he hasn’t aged and the shadow showed his wings and he eats lots of chocolate?
    • YS stage incident; was it manmade instead of an ‘accident’? I know her aunt stopped the transplant from happening, but was she behind the accident too? Or was her eldest daughter?
    • car accident; did art angel cause it on purpose so she could get the eye transplant? Or was that also an accident?
    • how in the world do people think the aunts husband is soft hearted and good?! He helped her burn the ledgers or whatever and knows about her bad deeds but has done nothing. I’m sorry but he’s just as bad as the aunt. So is the younger cousin, YS’s ‘shadow.’ How was it okay for her to be live streaming the party and act all innocent like she didn’t mean any bad by it? I jut hate how the supposed ‘nice’ people are worse than YS who’s looked at as nasty and bad tempered. At least she is real and never maliciously out to hurt anyone or help someone to hurt.
    • Dans mission; right now he’s shipping these two because he thinks art angel is human. What is the real mission/heavens plan? They have to know that Dan was gonna try setting those two up, thinking the other isn’t an angel like him. So what’s the end game? Why make him think he will turn to dust? Or is it encaustic he’s an animal angel, not an art one, that he would really dissipate?
    • YS...gooodness I love her. I know her character gets hate, but honestly she reminds me so much of the cold chaebol male leads that so many swooon over and never criticize. I love for once it’s the female lead that is role reversed. And may I add the actress herself so talented, saw her in still 17 and seeing her play such a drastically different character speaks volume on her impressive skills.


    ahh please guys give me your feedback on all this, I need to discuss soooo badly about this amazing show.

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  3. 1 hour ago, staygold said:

    With all my attention focused on the otp I missed why DM's mom got emotional seeing Geon Woo at EG's judo class. Did she lose a child in the past?

    I think so! Maybe the pictures of two kids in a photo is her deceased sibling and their grief is part of why they had EG come into their family. There’s also when EG is confronting Ryan and tells him that ‘DM Hasn’t told you anything about her.’ I am also wondering if the loss of her sibling contributes to her fangirling for SA. Maybe he reminds her of her deceased sibling? Or distracts her from her grief?

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  4. Yes there were for a loose ends I don’t feel had closure.

    • who was the guy that raped JSH when she was a reporter? (I thought it was same guy behind all this aka ceo of Nara news but guess not)
    • does HSJ know the extent of JSH’s involvement in his scandal?
    • Who was texting the police under the guise of ceo cho? Since we learn in the end he’s too mentally incapacitated to have been blackmailing him.
    • even more but I can’t think of it. At least the ending was happy? Was expecting HSJ to die while taking a photo or something.
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  5. Omomo now this is the kind of kdrama I live for!! I swear if either gonna rewatch this whole show again before the finale or binge it once it’s over. Once again I am left wanting to see the next episode so bad. Wash can tomorrow come sooner?!


    also I’m confused. Is CEO in love with SH??

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  6. 10 hours ago, ktcjdrama said:

    Hahaha.... I thought about it too!!


    After ep.12, I start to question KSM's innocence again. Why is he so mysterious?? Is he the good guy or the bad guy? This episode didn't give any further clues, nor the preview. Argh! 4 more episodes... how will the story go? So unpredictable! (in a good way)...

    Chingu this was exactly what I came on the thread for! The end of the recent episode confused me. Is KSM not as innocent and a victim as I thought he was? Also why did LA touch his chest when he did a reading while back with KSMs thoughts about JI? Is he in love with her? Feel Guilty to her? 

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  7. Yeah with the scenes of LJH in prison getting beaten up by cell mates trying to be some sort of comic relief, it made me disgusted cause I can’t get over how he used a bat to hit the car of the deaf pregnant couple. I’m not sure if they’re trying to make him more likable or what, but it doesn’t work for me cause I still hate his guts even if his big brother was the mastermind behind it all and he’s really just a puny coward with all bark and no bite. Doesn’t change the fact that despise him tremendously. 


    On a lighter note, who else ships the prosecutor with JH??? Their scenes on the other hand jus make me ship them more and more as the episodes go on :wub:

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  8. So guys, one thing I’m confused about. Where in the timeline was number 88 staying with real DHJ then in orphanage with LYE?


    Let’s say that number 88 was first living with chairman and real DHJ then went to the orphanage. Wouldn’t he have recognized the house and wondered why LYe was staying. in the same house he used to live in before going to the orphanage? I’m just confused about the chronological order and how he goes from blue to brown eyes.p

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  9. @bebebisous33 chingu so happy to see you here!! Loved your insightful analysis on the show so far. I do think there are a lot of parallels between the symbol of dogs and the subliminal messages in this show. Maybe that Hanson orphanage was intended to create humans loyal like dogs. Even our female lead, she replaced the daughter like a puppy coming into the home of a family that recently lost their dog. And now she works as a detective, that her father backed her up to do against her mom’s wishes to become a ballerina. Whether it was her idea or not to join the police force, she still seems quite loyal to her dad without knowing her full truth of his involvement in so much corruption.

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  10. Usually in revenge dramas we already know the characters plan, but what I love about this show is how unpredictable it is and that in the end even when we think the lead is corner or about to ‘lose’ he still ends up on top, which is very satisfying after seeing so many instances in revenge shows where the main character never gets justice or rarely at least. I also like how unconventional it goes, like the KSW arc and stay of execution being bait. Now my q is, do medical directors really have so much power in prisons that they are the ‘kings’ there? Also how realistic is the show in regards of the imprisoned wealthy using the stay of execution or other situations showing just how corrupt the jail system is???

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  11. Finally caught up with this show but now let’s see if I understand things right:


    SH/Number 88 is like his father surrounded in blood. Also numbered kids god adopted vs ones with names like LYE. And there was something special about number 88? (What happened to his eyes that went from blue to brown? Genetic) engineering?  Or is he wearing contacts?).


    Then we have SG who’s ‘father doesn’t know she’s living with’ SH. Do SH and SG possibly have the same biological father and are siblings???? Or it seems that both of their fathers are alive at least.


    Then we have DHJ. So she is originally LYE Then was adopted to replace the deceased DHJ. 


    Heres whats confusing. When SH was a kid, he knew both LYE and the real DHJ right? And at the beginning in that’s photo of a mom and daughter, it was of the real DHJ in the third photo and not LYE?

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  12. Yeah, I think LA knows that JIs dad is in prison and that he murdered someone (if that’s what the graffiti in HS said) But like JS worries about in the most recent episode, LA and JI have yet to discover their ill fated relation. That her dad was imprisoned for the very crime that killed his parents. I’m dreading when these two find out and I wish they already knew so we wouldn’t have to worry about an unnecessar break up. At least I hope LA finds out first if he’s okay with it then it may make it easier for JI to stay with him cause if she left him once, I feel like she would again as a selfless heroic action because she’s the daughter of the one who supposedly murdered his family. How do you guys think it will go down when this cold hard truth is discovered?


    oh and I do think though that the bind p LA and JI have that Prosectur refers to are beyond this ill fated connection, as for what, I think it’s in the flashbacks, but perhaps LA forgot about his history with her pre-fall from building, so he only remembers their interaction in the snow after his accident. When LA revealed their childhood connection, JI seemed to be unable to recall who he is, so maybe once she sees a picture of him as a boy we will find out from her perspective that she knew this boy more than that one meeting (though in that one meeting the little girl didn’t seem like she knew him deeper than that interaction so this could totally be a long shot). 

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  13. 6 hours ago, boxylollypop said:

    This is true! I hadn't watched the episode yet but I think they're revealing more of this theory. SM was also incredibly vague/quiet when JS asked him about both his parents in this scene. 


    What creeps me out as well is that it's clear after this episode that JS finds JI as 'competition' for SM's affection... and it's hinted as almost romantic though I'm not sure how well the subs portray the actual language used. Although this may also be because SM also finds it hard to differentiate between different types of love?

    You’ll love that scene once it’s subbed


    JS also thinks JI is a lesbian and has a crush on her cause LA reveals that why she joined police force. So it’s kinda funny cause while hung and LA misunderstood by everyone. Now JS misunderstood JI XD 

    @bebebisous33 has anyone hypothesized yet if SM got his own kind of abilities after the fall? Not psychometric but something along those lines, some giftthat also lets him block off LA which explains why he can’t read him. 

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