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  1. Yeah with the scenes of LJH in prison getting beaten up by cell mates trying to be some sort of comic relief, it made me disgusted cause I can’t get over how he used a bat to hit the car of the deaf pregnant couple. I’m not sure if they’re trying to make him more likable or what, but it doesn’t work for me cause I still hate his guts even if his big brother was the mastermind behind it all and he’s really just a puny coward with all bark and no bite. Doesn’t change the fact that despise him tremendously. 


    On a lighter note, who else ships the prosecutor with JH??? Their scenes on the other hand jus make me ship them more and more as the episodes go on :wub:

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  2. So guys, one thing I’m confused about. Where in the timeline was number 88 staying with real DHJ then in orphanage with LYE?


    Let’s say that number 88 was first living with chairman and real DHJ then went to the orphanage. Wouldn’t he have recognized the house and wondered why LYe was staying. in the same house he used to live in before going to the orphanage? I’m just confused about the chronological order and how he goes from blue to brown eyes.p

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  3. Gosh I missed this show so much after being on break for a week. Two eps are never enough. I’m left wanting more and semi wishing I waited till all the episodes were out to binge this. Aghh I can’t wait for next week. I’m excited how she will deal with this prosecutor 

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  4. @bebebisous33 chingu so happy to see you here!! Loved your insightful analysis on the show so far. I do think there are a lot of parallels between the symbol of dogs and the subliminal messages in this show. Maybe that Hanson orphanage was intended to create humans loyal like dogs. Even our female lead, she replaced the daughter like a puppy coming into the home of a family that recently lost their dog. And now she works as a detective, that her father backed her up to do against her mom’s wishes to become a ballerina. Whether it was her idea or not to join the police force, she still seems quite loyal to her dad without knowing her full truth of his involvement in so much corruption.

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  5. Usually in revenge dramas we already know the characters plan, but what I love about this show is how unpredictable it is and that in the end even when we think the lead is corner or about to ‘lose’ he still ends up on top, which is very satisfying after seeing so many instances in revenge shows where the main character never gets justice or rarely at least. I also like how unconventional it goes, like the KSW arc and stay of execution being bait. Now my q is, do medical directors really have so much power in prisons that they are the ‘kings’ there? Also how realistic is the show in regards of the imprisoned wealthy using the stay of execution or other situations showing just how corrupt the jail system is???

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  6. Finally caught up with this show but now let’s see if I understand things right:


    SH/Number 88 is like his father surrounded in blood. Also numbered kids god adopted vs ones with names like LYE. And there was something special about number 88? (What happened to his eyes that went from blue to brown? Genetic) engineering?  Or is he wearing contacts?).


    Then we have SG who’s ‘father doesn’t know she’s living with’ SH. Do SH and SG possibly have the same biological father and are siblings???? Or it seems that both of their fathers are alive at least.


    Then we have DHJ. So she is originally LYE Then was adopted to replace the deceased DHJ. 


    Heres whats confusing. When SH was a kid, he knew both LYE and the real DHJ right? And at the beginning in that’s photo of a mom and daughter, it was of the real DHJ in the third photo and not LYE?

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  7. Yeah, I think LA knows that JIs dad is in prison and that he murdered someone (if that’s what the graffiti in HS said) But like JS worries about in the most recent episode, LA and JI have yet to discover their ill fated relation. That her dad was imprisoned for the very crime that killed his parents. I’m dreading when these two find out and I wish they already knew so we wouldn’t have to worry about an unnecessar break up. At least I hope LA finds out first if he’s okay with it then it may make it easier for JI to stay with him cause if she left him once, I feel like she would again as a selfless heroic action because she’s the daughter of the one who supposedly murdered his family. How do you guys think it will go down when this cold hard truth is discovered?


    oh and I do think though that the bind p LA and JI have that Prosectur refers to are beyond this ill fated connection, as for what, I think it’s in the flashbacks, but perhaps LA forgot about his history with her pre-fall from building, so he only remembers their interaction in the snow after his accident. When LA revealed their childhood connection, JI seemed to be unable to recall who he is, so maybe once she sees a picture of him as a boy we will find out from her perspective that she knew this boy more than that one meeting (though in that one meeting the little girl didn’t seem like she knew him deeper than that interaction so this could totally be a long shot). 

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  8. 6 hours ago, boxylollypop said:

    This is true! I hadn't watched the episode yet but I think they're revealing more of this theory. SM was also incredibly vague/quiet when JS asked him about both his parents in this scene. 


    What creeps me out as well is that it's clear after this episode that JS finds JI as 'competition' for SM's affection... and it's hinted as almost romantic though I'm not sure how well the subs portray the actual language used. Although this may also be because SM also finds it hard to differentiate between different types of love?

    You’ll love that scene once it’s subbed


    JS also thinks JI is a lesbian and has a crush on her cause LA reveals that why she joined police force. So it’s kinda funny cause while hung and LA misunderstood by everyone. Now JS misunderstood JI XD 

    @bebebisous33 has anyone hypothesized yet if SM got his own kind of abilities after the fall? Not psychometric but something along those lines, some giftthat also lets him block off LA which explains why he can’t read him. 

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  9. 16 hours ago, boxylollypop said:

    I skimmed through all your theories - they're pretty convincing but I was wondering why there's a consensus that the masked man is the prosecutor's father? It makes sense if we follow some theories' logic but I don't think the producers have given extensive information to assume so. We did get to see his face in the latest episode though.I

    You have a point chingu but after today’s episode


    I think it’s SMs dad because we see a flashback of LAs dad introducing himself to SM apthrn afer holding hands with LA as they walk away and JA running to her dad while SM watched both affectionate interactions of kids with their dad. Then back to present day, he remarks ‘papa papa dad ad’ when JS is talking about her dad. This is what makes me continued to be led on the path of assuming that the culprit behind all this is SMs dad. Or the only father figure he knew? 


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  10. 5 hours ago, nrllee said:

    @bebebisous33 Interesting theory.  I think you could be right in that there’s more to JiSoo’s father than meets the eye. And I did think it was odd that they never mention her mother.  Usually it’s the mother who is desperate to get their child married?  Is her mom still living?  I was wondering why it was her dad who kept trying to set her up with blind dates when it’s usually the mother who is more concerned about such things - unless he’s a single dad?  :o


    There’s definitely a story behind why JiSoo’s dad is so keen to wrap these cases up quickly.  He seemed to rise up the ranks to become superintendent very quickly after ‘solving’ the Apartment fire case.  And it can’t be mere coincidence that LA’s

    dad is also a Police Officer.  He conveniently died in that fire.  Did he have information that JiSoo’s dad was desperate to hide?  :o



    Yes I believe she’s the woman seen knitting in the new place (it looked like a hospital but maybe it’s more like a nursing home??).  I think she took on the identity of the woman who was killed 5years ago and who was put in the suitcase which LA found in the river whilst looking for the little girl.  Then she worked in the nursing home where the second fire happened. The insurance guy was the one who provided her with the new identity?  He managed to get her to safety before SM’s dad went to the nursing home and killed the women.  I get the feeling SM’s dad gets mad when he finds she’s not there when he gets there and takes his anger out on the people next door?  The women killed seem to have no relation other than being next door.  SM identified the 4th body in the apartment fire (the one his dad dragged in) as his mother.  When SM was going through the files of the case in his office, he looked up the list of people (this was very quick so I had to pause it to get the names) that died in the apartment fire and underneath the name of his mother was ‘Kang EunSoo’ - this was the name of the missing woman in the poster in the lift (?).  So on both occasions SM’s mother had assumed the identity of women already killed (I still think the killer is SM’s dad on both occasions - LA saw the face of the insurance guy later.  He didn’t see the face of the man wielding the hammer.  Also there were other men in the place where the ladies were killed - who were they?  Lastly, after SM’s dad took the picture from SM’s apartment, he went to a place with the metal drum (with a fire) - it looked a lot like the place where the 2 women were killed 5years who. (The place LA saw in his vision).  :o

    I agree, I think Sms mom is the woman in the sketch (to me they look similar) that supposedly took the identity of Hee Sook, the corpse form the brief case that LA does a reading on. Now as for the motive why SMs dad attacked those women in the first fire case, it could be that he saw them ‘herassing’ the mom from afair cause it seemed he had been watching them from the building across and that night the women knocked on her door to ask about joining the women society. Now there’s the matter of ‘ahdjussi’ which they also called JI’s dad by and he even attempts suicide in the end (do you guys think he died or survived??) I’m not sure if JI’s dad really is innocent. What if there were two crimes happening at the same time that night (Ji dad attacking those women while Sms dad tries to abduct his son and wife)? Then again Sms dad brief case had the lighters that blew up the microwave, which seemed to be in the same crime scene of the stabbing of those women.


    sharp point, both locations of HS death and where SMs dad burned the phot looked exactly the same. I do wonder if it really was YG in the vision or if getting info of the case prior to the reading effected it so maybe it’s not him. Or like you said YG was there but also so was SMs dad since there were a bunch of men. Then who were those men that you asked? And how are SMs dad and YG related (maybe sms dad is an insurance broker too? And he would cause fire for money, but also use the opportunity to go on killing sprees? But then there’s also the question how he got away with abusing SM since like some have speculated, I wonder if Sms dad is a cop too) oh and from recent episodes, seems LA has said insurance money. So a shady insurance c9mlanh could be involved in this mysterious case along wit possibly corrupt cops.


    YG was most likely killed by Sms dad, only because SM starts getting suspicious if his dad being behind it after YG death when he’s chained up like SM supposedly was in his childhood. But why? Because YG was protecting Sms mom and giving her new identity (but then if Sam was there, wouldn’t he know about mom’s identity too?) or he didn’t want YG to snitch sine they are accomplices? Who hired them? JSs dad? Or is JS dad also working for whoever hired him? Reason I suspect JS dad because of how quickly he closed the case.

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  11. 1 hour ago, nize143 said:

    I had a chance to finally re-watch the drama in one sitting... There are a few subtle moments that I think was not highlighted and it's such a shame... For example, after break up, Jung Rok decided not to bring his car and take the bus everyday after work, someone actually asked him about this, I think Se Wan... later we see him sitting in the same bus station looking at the big billboard of OYS... aside from the breakdown, I think it was a very touching reveal... now we know why he forgo driving his car and instead prefer to ride the bus and even keeps on missing each bus schedule... it was the only time he can see OYS everyday... :(

    I was also curious about YS family. She met Jrs dad (that was the funniest future in law meeting ever...way to make a first impression XD) but there weren’t many friends or family Shawn on YS side. Which I’m fine with cause I take no family over seeing drama of a disapproving monster in law or something.

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  12. Wow I am gonna miss this drama. I love the flow it went, nothing dragged (the stalker arc or break up) and there wasn’t any ridiculous cliches or overused tropes for a romance kdrama. Was it just me that got some legally blonde vibes when YS set up her secretary desk all pink? I also sometimes thought when watching this how you could see this as sunny and grim reincarnated getting to live out their lives like how they wanted to. KHS really did a good job going into character, most notably her voice. It took some getting used to but after getting to know her character better and everything, it just all made sense and I actually give props to KHS for getting so immersed in a role that she seems very different from the previous roles she’s done, and of course I’m gonna miss uri male lead :heart: was it also just me that thought this the biggest grins I ever seen him have in a male lead role?

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