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  1. Did anyone notice the devil’s sidekick lingering around YK’s performance at the end of the recent episode? I’m starting to wonder if he is YKs biological dad...and maybe that is why pre-HR, she was being abused by her stepdad and basically going through utter torture in life even before HR made a deal with a devil despite being first grade soul. Maybe she started being abused when devils sidekick made a deal with him.

     

    then there’s cafe ahjussi, who I also thought might be her biological father but him magically knowing HR is SDC has me convinced like others that he is her guardian angels. Then...Where does KH, HRs amnesiac roomie come in?

     

    well don’t forget guys, we also have someone that hates HR and tried to kill him but there was never investigation because music label didn’t want reporters to find out about it. So the criminal has yet to be found..is he linked to KH? No clue, but this may be all tied together. 

     

    Is lucca SDCs son? Well if memory serves...HR has only been HR for ten years right? So if Lucca was his son, wouldn’t he have any memories of SDC? I think he could be his grandson and his mom the daughter. We do know it’s highly possible SDC had a child cause we saw him give his wife stolen money at the beginning episodes. 

     

    Maybe I am in the minority...but I ship our lead. I just feel like they our soul mates and who doesn’t wanna see that kind of bond in a romantic light? I respect if they keep it platonic and innocent though, cause at least I have my devil and ceo XD

     

    what did SDCs rival band mate do to YK? She seemed absolutely stunned by him. Also does he know about Lucas identity? He’s in contact with Lucas mom. (Even said ohh think of me as ur dad...the irony...maybe another hint L really is SDCs son?) so he must know the truth about L’s birth secret. 

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  2. 7 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

    It's fun that MTG is having his own little arc as he waxes philosophical about the human condition. He does remind me of last year's Black

    Oh my goodness I was thinking the same thing during His scenes with his ex. That poor actress can never catch a break with her leading men being possessed by someone else! Kekeke

     

    but does anyone else get some jdorama vibes from this show? 

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  3. 8 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

    I hope not because this wouldn't be realistic. If the prosecutor somehow had some relationship with the criminal, then this would have been known. 

     

    I am really sick of KMR: so self-righteous and narrow-minded. Saying that KSY made a malpractice is totally wrong because she just followed the patient's request. A doctor can not do anything without the patient's permission. I guess, she is like one of these doctors who won't take patients if they can not save them. Remember the chairman's words: A doctor can save all his patients, if he doesn't take patients with incurable disease. The last episode confirmed my perception of KMR: she doesn't care for her patients. Since they found something wrong, then she would ask for the surgery and refused to answer the patient's question: if he gets a surgery, will the pain disappear? She knew that she couldn't confirm this, hence she avoided to answer by telling him that the surgeon was the best! So she actually was putting the responsibility on the surgeon. KMR is taking no responsibility in her work. And I suspect that the mother will use CYH for her husband: CYH should become responsible for her husband. That way, she doesn't want to feel guilty.

    I can’t stand KMR either!! Like I get she’s upset with KSY about her dad, but on a professional level she is just so unprofessional. It was KSY that analyzed their patients diary, and when she stopped the surgery, there was this scowl on KMRs face just like when she watched KSH helping YH in the surgery. I feel like she uses her dads death to justify her jealousy, something she probably had even before her dad died as someone in the same field as her older sister that probably was always a bit more talented than her in medicine. I mean if she really were a true doctor, she wouldn’t care if KSY her worse enemy is the one that helped her patient, she would care that her patient is saved and gonna be okay. It’s like she cannot separate personal with professional. I get that with her dad, but even with regular patients? She doesn’t seem relieved or happy at all that they didn’t have to do an UNNECESSARY surgery on a person that already tries to avoid pain as much as possible because of their condition. It grated my nerves so much, she had no right to criticize YH at the dinner or throw a whole hissy fit about it. 

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  4. Hey guys joining this thread now that I’ve caught up!

     

    for one I too am curious what ZY’s ‘real reason’ is for the abortion. For a minute I thought maybe it wasn’t his kid...but why would she say that when she’s such a desperado to go back with him? So maybe she says something how she had no choice to abort...it was a dangerous pregnancy or basically her health was at risk. I think she will end up with that guy at KH’s work, not his assistant who’s in love with WWs bestie but the other dude that she was talking to in front of KH when he looked annoyed as heck ( I even though maybe she and him had an affair in the past and that’s why he was so pissed). 

     

    I watched the recent episode raw, and I’m so relieved that she has finally broken up with HY (and also gotten a more spunky wardrobe change?) I just hope she also gets a bit more strength like her bestie, where she doesn’t care what other people think and is okay with being single (because I think her obsession with wanting to get married is what has also kept her staying with her no good fiancée). Then again, KH has shown over and over he wants to wife her up himself so why doesn’t she just break up with her Bf and go to him already? Like it doesn’t seem KH is gonna hit it and quit it with her (is that what she’s worried about?) he’s more successful than her boyfriend (aka no more stupid sacrifices like eating a crappy lunch) and it definitely seems like she has more chemistry with him than her fiancée. Okay, I get her rationalization that chemistry and a physical attraction can only go so far compared to her long term relationship already on the path to marriage. But comparing her to her best friend, how much do you have to be treated like crap before you would rather be alone than with this bad partner? Sometimes I wonder if some people hesitate to break up because hey associate that with failure. And she is scared if they break up than her three years went to waste and she failed at achieving her dream? Just trying to understand her character. 

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  5. 1 hour ago, thistle said:

    It's something I really don't talk about because it's something you cannot describe or express.  And it's why I understand that the highest form of love is sometimes simply letting go.  Arranging to have someone's life support removed is the most final letting go of all

    Wow thank you for sharing your story chingu and my deepest condolences for your loss:heart:

     

    12 minutes ago, nona88 said:

    that why it so interesting that why everyone different view in the drama still interested to us to watch and to understand 

    it not about right or wrong or black and white it about to choice the hard one between the most painful choices in front of you 

     

    When I first started this drama, I felt some ‘House tv show’ vibes mixed with ‘doctor prisoner’ because of all the diagnosing and medical practices in a jail. Now in the hospital and seeing the main expertise of this drama, I think the subject of pain management is certainly underrated because I thought all anastesialogist do are put people to sleep in surgery and monitor them. But it makes sense they are skilled in managing pain too since morphine is administered though IVs too like anastesia? But not only are we being introduced to the theme of doctors being responsible for a patient’s pain, we are also given such important issues like euthanasia and assisted suicide that are still being debated to this day. And in all this, even given food for thought about a doctors moral compass and the  ‘grey’ side of all this ethical problems.

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  6. I have to say, this is the first drama where I feel like I know the ‘secondary leads’ more than the main lead. We never got flashbacks of her high school years except the one of all three (did they ever find out in the end or just all automatically knew beforehand that they knew each other in teenage years?) or background of TM, not saying that it would explain her marriage views or she has to justify them with her background, but I was just curious to learn more about her and see why she has the views/values that she does. Honestly it’s fine though because It doesn’t make the drama any less incredible. It’s just my one of my thoughts while going through this amazing ride with you guys.

     

    Watching the finale raw, I’m not sure if they also ever explain why GG was so anti-TM in the beginning, or basically how their dynamic flipped from being so close building Unicon together to how it was throughout the show. Many of you were able to perfectly explain what MG meant when he would give his metaphor ‘fish tank aquarium’ or said ‘I understand now’ in the recent episodes when he finally let MG go p. So maybe it’s already been hinted or explained in the drama but I haven’t noticed. Does anyone maybe understand why GG and TM were in bad terms at the start of this kdrama??

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  7. Random, but I was sad this thread doesn’t have many pages compared to some other popular dramas because it deserves it for such a unique and incredible storyline in this kdrama. Yet seeing so many new users here that joined for the drama, I think that’s even better and I just want to sincerely welcome all our new soompiers here. I hope I can see you all again in future threads and I am so excited to keep reading your insightful thoughts here. Silent lurkers or those lurking, considering to make an account, please do it! I’m looking forward to reading your posts tomorrow’s finale :heart:

    @forwww @Ho Lo Buon @ardyna @Flaneur2

    And anyone else I missed ^^

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  8. 2 hours ago, forwww said:

    Did Tami let go of her life ideals and views on marriage? No. I think it's fairly shown from the start that she won't change her ideals over anything. And I accept this, wholeheartedly. *But that doesn't mean they can't reach a compromise, does it?* Anyway, what did she let go then? First, her pride. When she came to him with an excuse of the earrings. Next, her guilt. I guess her guilt never really left since she felt it for him when he lost his job because of her. She just learned to call it differently: pity, affection, and maybe even love. But it's there. She is guilty of accepting to push through the relationship even if it will eventually reach to an end because of her. And that hinders both of them because she let her mind focus on that while Mogun doesn't. The partner to her guilt was respect. She respects Mogun's dream of having a family and being married so much that even though he was no intentions of using that against her, she feels it as if choosing to be with him will take away the only thing that will make him truly happy. So how dare she tells him she loves him? That is just selfish on her part. And as someone who doesn't want to step on others or hurt them in any way- she can't accept this. All while she's preventing this to happen, she realized how much she hurt him.

    Sorry to cut your incredible post. I adored everything about it. But this part specially resonated with me because you explained TM and PM’s dynamic perfectly. 

    Spoiler

    I watched episode 14 raw and the piano teacher mentioned something about pity..now I wonder like TMs love rooted in guilt. Is the piano teachers rooted in pity? Just fascinating how love kind of blossoms from so many other emotions.

     

     

    2 hours ago, J13 said:

    That was such a badass satisfying ending. I absolutely love the girl power vibes and the fierceness of each of our female leads. So awesome seeing TM and CH hold hands to unite and I love when Brian returned to save the day. The contrast to GG then walking into Unicon as the new CEO was just so epic. Two very strong competing teams! Can Baro and Unicon just unite now!? Wouldn't that be epic!

    Oh my goodness I cannot emphasize enough how much I love for the girl power in this show!! Please please writernims pdnims everyone in kdrama showbiz keep these kind of kdramas coming !!!!

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  9. 2 hours ago, elizabeth said:

     

    Deep down inside of me I wish they made Cha Hyun/Scarlet a lesbian. I mean she is so gorgeous and her friendship with both BTM and SGG is on another level. I keep getting a lesbian vibe from her and I think it’s hot at the same time.. I’m having mature girl crush on her. :love:

    I’m fine with bi vibes too. Fan fiction mind sees a future where GG and JH are living with CH in an apartment, GG, with her previous affection for MH, is also fond of JH, while CH gets the best of both worlds aka throuple mania. Hey, a girl can dream right? 

     

    Maybe it was the incessant back and forth between MG and TM that makes it easier to accept their break up. We were already sick of the constant tug of war. Yet the kiss in the office and then finally being together, I do want a happy ending for them, that said, I don’t want either of them to have to change their values for the other, unless ‘time’ comes into play and maybe TM has changed her beliefs about marriage from when she dated her ex getting married to the man she is with now. And if she doesn’t, that’s completely understandable too because I think there should be representation for woman that do not see marriage or children in their future thus taking a ‘childfree/marriage free’ stance. I totally support that and even more so for a role model to exemplify that because I don’t think media shows much characters with those type of unconventional values.

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  10. Please don’t get me wrong, I admired JKYs acting skills when he was in My Ahjussi and part of why I kept watching Come and Hug me & Kill It kdramas was cause of him. But as an avid drama watcher. I can’t help but feel like he doesn’t have a diverse way to be different characters. Like GG, I can barely recognize that she’s the same actress from Misty. Yes the roles are different, but so is Morgan from the characters in three dramas I mentioned yet his expressions and such I could see in same shows I’m not blaming this on why I’m not so much into our lead pairing (I ship them, but I just not as engaged in their scenes as I am with scarlet and actor/GG). I hope in future shows he can surprise me. 

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  11. Okay has it been explained how Sunbae Hu from being out in jail and stripped of his angelic powers to back in his regular position? 

     

    Honestly, if I were Dan and told YS gonna still have to die, I would still question this prophecy. I mean he was given a mission to have her fall in love with a human, and the person he was pushed to match her with was none other than an ex-angel. Sometimes I wonder if Hu’s efforts to separate them is really the Diety’s test to see how strong their love is and maybe even a reverse psychology way to bring them closer. Because so far that’s what’s been happening.

     

    @lolly84 haha when she said she wanted a son like her and daughter like him, my fan fiction imagination totally went wild and envisioned YS and Dan at home with a little girl looking like Dan and oppa that looks like YS and also bad tempered like her but has a sweet spot for his dongsaeng. Also when they visited her parents, I thought ‘please let the ending be where ten years from now these two can visit them again, but with their kids this time. Please ‘

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  12. my heart went out to JH :/ and I liked his reference to the rainbow bridge (for those who don’t know, it’s a beautiful poem I suggest anyone who is grieving the loss of a pet to read). I recently lost my dog in January and I have had him for over ten years so it was extremely difficult losing him because he’s my only family besides my mom. I cried so much in this scene because it hit so close to home and brought out major feels.

     

    I wonder if GG is doing all this to TM on purpose to make her hate her. So that TM helps her ‘disappear’. Maybe GG thinks she’s the only one who can especially when going up against her MIL. As much as I love the progress between CH and uri actor, I’m still subconsciously cheering for CH and GG, I wish they had more scenes together. And I feel like GG needs CH’s love very much. Ahh but that preview. GG being fierce with her coworker (whom  I thought was her ally but guess not) haha I’m liking all the chemistry between female leads. Even his MG got jealous about TM being sad about things being ‘over’ with GG, the girl power is strooong in this show.

     

    I also have to wonder, has any of the events in this show ever happened in real life? Controversies about search engines? Someone related to it going viral in the keyword search? 

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  13. Who is the ahjussi? MKs dad/ED step dad? JH/YR’sfather? (ED made it sound like the guy seems familiar...and JH didn’t recognize him when he delivered perfume) so who is he ?! Maybe his identity gives a clue to how and why the perfume ended up with JH.

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