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  1. Oh yeah! The look the employees shared when she was like no we need to push more and involve the son. And while they may feel responsible for the death of JYI, they have no idea like you said that they are also accomplices in covering up this murder unknowingly. So will they switch sides and end up helping SH?
  2. Poor YD. He tried to ‘freshen up’ his man cave but ended up just over doing it. He reminded me of myself when I end up putting too much perfume for a first date haha. Wow these two need a first date already! They are already started to do pda with hand holding, and just closer in general. I love the team’s handshake too by the way...I can see them doing it at TOP haha if they all end up working there. You know, I have to give my commentary on the TOP employees because it’s what makes me look at Ms Ha from a different perspective. Objectively, there are some things about Ms Ha that don’t make her overall a treacherous and evil person. She isn’t homophobic-as seen with how she treated WJs secret. Her employees are extremely loyal to her-the subordinate didn’t listen to mo when she was in custody and replace her. Th thing about her employees being loyal to her, is that these are normal, non wealthy and privileged people like most that ms Ha work with. Why do such powerless people support a corrupt person like Ms Ha? Obviously it’s behind their pay day as they could still get paid if they remained loyal to mo. I hope I make sense. Wow I cannot believe we are are having the finale this week..time flies. I don’t know what will happen, but if WS is hopefully not the culprit, I’m fine with seeing him as CEO...and SH leading top with YH. Of course i would love to see girl power and SH become CEO too but I wonder besides her moms murder case being cleared, does she really want to lead company? I can’t wait to hear all your guys prediction and theories for the ending.
  3. Hey, for anyone that craved any makjang, this recent twist totally fulfilled that. What I’m a bit confused on is 1) how did WS know SH’s birth secret already? (I voted him as suspect..is this another clue that he is guilty??) 2) if mo didn’t know his daughter was his sister (lol makjang level question) why was he so ‘guarded’ and such with her (ms ha words)? im ready to know what is ms ha background, we already know she doesn’t care for money, so she’s not living a luxurious lifestyle, what is motivating her then? Soo late to the discussion about the kiss, but can I just fangirl about it?! I loved how their make out sesh, no one was stiff and awkward, it was very natural and passionate, and I love how clever they have gotten now. I ship them so bad!!!
  4. Seems like majority so far are leaning towards WS. Like @DreamCatcher2011 said, it feels like the least obvious suspect, WS, is the most possible if the drama wants to go for a twist. Of course I hope that’s not the case, but seeing as how this show loves to leave us at the edge of our seats, I wouldn’t put it behind pdnims to drop Bomb like that on us.
  5. I can’t believe the step mom even had the audacity to use the art work as hers. So what? Your stupid singing didn’t get you far so now you had to steal someone else’s talent? Classy sweetie. You sure are a class act.
  6. I’m on aboard the ‘WS is the suspect!’ Ship. I m sad though because poor SH now really has no one in the family that’s a true ally or even real family for that matter. Makes me so angry whenever they show her dad’s office with a big photo on the wall and one on his desk that has his sons without SH in it. Way to win father of the year award buster.
  7. What’s interesting to me is that YNs daughter SB is in the states yet she is so desperate not to move there with her. Is SB even her real daughter? Also as much as I ship JJ and SW (what a nice twist if HJ ends up with that righteous prosecutor so she gets some love too) I wonder what her true feelings for JH (husband) are. Is friendship, or does she have an unrequited love for him? Does he know her brith secret too? Is he an exception to her revenge? (His youngest sister too since she works for her?) then again we know she’s out for revenge, but what is her end goal or overall scheme? Take back Deo? What about the fate of MIL and kids?
  8. And I think the eldest outs him at a family dinner or allude to it without mentioning WJ particularity while bringing up transgender topic. @thistle also Chingu it seems like the reporter found footage of WJ leaving her moms house years ago before the murder. But WJ denies ever meeting her when she confront him about it. SH is using her knowing the secret too to keep ms ha on her toes, because I think ha told WJ to stop cross dressing and keep it secret forever so it doesn’t leak out. But now that she got a whiff that SH knows, she wants to send her abroad (I’m just assuming based on watching rawr I can be totally wrong! I wish drama milk would live recap this). YD shows his mom the footage too to see if she recognizes WJ. She doesn’t but then ms ha shows up in the video too and his mom recognizes her. At this point, not too many lovey doves scenes between SH and YD except when they’re in Wjs apartment snooping around and he seems to be like, empathetic with WJ about how uncomfortable it must have been to hide his identity. But no top flirting or anything romantic it seemed like unfortunately. (Haven’t finished full episode though) And what he looks like as his alternate persona!
  9. I do like the pace our drama is going. We are getting close to the end yet nothing feels like it’s dragging. On the contrary yes I wish we even had more eps. But hopefully everything is neatLy wrapped up and there aren’t any loose ends by the last ep.
  10. Yes I think the second wife was a mistress when she had WS and WJ so meanwhile mo was still married to SH’s mom even though she didn’t have SH till the mistress already had her sons. By the time Sh was born though, the first wife moved out and the second wife moved in (I’m assuming..might be wrong on all this so don’t want to make any guarantees but this is my presumption). It’s even been debated that WS (eldest son) was from a different father hence why they push so much for WJ to be the heir.
  11. Chingu! So happy to see you here. Yes absolutely, I have a problem with the writing too. I mean I don’t even work for the government and if I found out children, the very ones I was responsible for inviting from my country, died in a plane crash, I wouldn’t be so cavalier about it like she’s been the whole time (maybe except when she flashed back to what he said and when she heard the audio but still the promotion and just overall lack of empathy and accountability ruin it). We also know from her interview video, that she applied there in 2006(and it’s 2012 at this point in drama?) so how can she be so much of a rookie that even after six years she can’t defend herself against the male lead yet be qualified enough to call herself an NIS agent? And then if she’s so smart and relies on brains, why did she so far have to ask two of her colleagues one of which (elder guy) seems to be in on it with her male coworker? I think my my biggest problem is none of these spy centric cases seem to relate to modern day issues like I’m used to seeing in kdramas and enjoy. Unless maybe this plane event was a re-enactment of when that Malaysia airlines went missing or something? I don’t know, I’m honestly a bit lost with what’s going in. So far we have this woman (always speaking super good English) that seems to be related to the old mans death that tried calling in the plane crash to report. She is the bad side I guess. Along with others working for korean embassy as we see our leads face off each one. But what conspiracy is going on? What kind of corrupt is happening that little kids would have to be the sacrifices of it? And you’re telling me there’s no good NIS agents? Just seems like everyone in power and the mass majority of spies are on the bad side which makes this even more frustrating. So vagabond means he’s not loyal to one agency? Is he like a freelancing assassin? Or agent for intelligence (aka giving info to different country agencies?) or he’s like a vigilante and just does his own thing? The only thing about the last one is how does he have the money to fund being a nomad like that and hide from such powerful people that want him killed to shush him up?
  12. And she’s still a Virgin so you were right about them never sleeping together. Also seems like ms Han confirmed he he is transgender too..and gay possibly ? Hence why he wanted to go to Paris?
  13. For once a drama where the good guys are step ahead and actually winning..I’m honestly enjoying YN dig her grave deeper and deeper by trying to drag JJ down. Haha keep doing what you’re doing YN! Imma just sit back and watch you destroy yourself
  14. So here’s the thing, I do think that Sh and TH/YD (ugh sidetracking but I know right @ the reporters?! Like mind your own business! Maybe pay attention to each other cause one of you is a double agent! Hahaha you seem to think you know everything but you guys know nothing of your coworkers) anyways these to need more back up! CNR seems to have left country based on what I saw on raw episode (we did get our scene of them eating with mr cute fan father so that was nice) and these reporters are untrustworthy, so who else is on their team?! They need more allies and a better plan (with plan b, c, Z cause even SH has surpassed ms ha (or Han?! I keep messing up her name with the step moms...other side note I know i keep diverting but while on the topic..I totally have to agree with everyone who suspects she has not so platonic feelings for the father). I do think her eldest oppa could be an ally. I am calling it-all the ‘funding’ he got for this recent movie is actually just saving up as much money as he can to go against these guys (at least I hope so) and his silly careless, debt ridden persona is just a mask. Now dare i may ask about the second eldest? See I took a human sexuality in my college and a transgender as well as a transsexual came to discussion panel for a lecture. A transsexual man is a straight man that just enjoys cross dressing where as transgender woman Is a woman that was born as man but knew she was supposed to be woman and takes hormonal and surgical action to make those changes. See, we know the marriage was sexless (though they said that transgender isn’t linked to sexual orientation so no matter what gender they transition to, it doesn’t relate to what their preferences are) but that might not give any indication to what the second eldest secret is. There’s was also that ticket to France-I am not sure if maybe that has a clue to what is going on?
  15. Gosh darn you ms Han! Can’t you let this go just once ?! but for reals..if I was SH I would use my chaebol connections to find out who has a grudge against TOP and use their thirst for revenge to help make a break through in my moms case
  16. Honestly I saw it raw. I had to see the scene of the reveal, but spoiled myself by watching whole episode cause it happened in the end and I was scared to skip in case I would miss the scene. I wish this show did sub faster.
  17. I came here to express the same kind of theory! Maybe the woman at the elevator was actually him....and that was why he was shaking when Ms Ha talked about it. I either way, after seeing inside of his apartment I am convinced he is a cross dresser. Only thing, why would as he so upset about losing the hankerchief?
  18. Was it just me that got some daily drama vibes form this show with the tropes and stuff??
  19. At my hair dryer comment...my bad guys my eyes totally deceived me! https://imgur.com/a/7zsDmEK from that angle I totally thought the bath plug was a hair dryer https://imgur.com/a/SQUUDaw
  20. Alright guys please help me out. I’m very confused right now and I really want to understand because I feel like this is all so important. What did the father mean to his second son, the heir WJ, to ‘take care of his mother’ and then next scene he’s next to a bath tub with a hair dryer in it, rips the ticket?
  21. I feel like I’m running in circles at the rate this plot is going. More than ready for the finale at this point
  22. A bit confused about when IG sold her soul...isn’t it first grade? Why would the most valuable soul only get one wish? That kinda feels like a cop out and they really did IG dirty like that.
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