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  1. 1 hour ago, ayang23 said:

    Sorry for my long post everyone, but I have just been so moved by this drama that I had to write down my thoughts and share it to you all!

     

    I haven’t completed watching this drama yet because I’m waiting for eng subs. However, I am in tune with all of the spoilers haha! All I can say is…Wow. Despite some gaps, overall, this drama has been breathtaking. The storyline and characters are beautiful in a very ugly way that a lot of viewers are not familiar with/used to, and I think that is phenomenal. Most importantly, I honestly think this storyline and the leads are what kept pulling the viewers to continue investing their time in this drama. Because at least for me, I never really cared that much about the political parts of the story. I was solely invested in the leads and I was curious to see how the storyline would unfold regardless of knowing how tragic it was going to end. I also think this ugliness is reflective of reality; the reality of what happens in life. Humans don’t possess the ability to be flawless and life isn’t always a box that is nicely wrapped up.

     

    On the other hand, while watching the spoilers, I was also wondered why XF decided to say what she said to LCY/XW as her last words: “In the end, the fox was unable to wait for the girl.” I have a thought about this, but I wanted to share my interpretation of the ost song “Little Fox” first. I found parts of the song with eng subs from viki’s translation in one of the drama’s teasers.

     

    A fox sitting on top of the sand dune

    Sitting on top of the sand dune, looking at the moon

    But actually, it’s not watching the moon

    It’s waiting for the shepherd girl to come back

     

    The fox represents LCY/XW while the shepherd girl represents XF. I wasn’t sure if foxes attack sheep, and so I looked it up. Not too surprising, it turned out that foxes do attack sheep. The main duty of a shepherd is to protect the sheep from predators. With all of that in mind, I interpreted the sheep as XF’s clan/people/family/friends, all of which she deeply loves and wanted to protect throughout the whole story. However, LCY/XW who is the fox, ends up attacking her sheep which signifies the destruction of XF’s clan/people/family/friends, and ultimately, herself.

     

    The lyrics also had “moon” within it, which is super interesting to me, especially when I think about LCY/XW. Similar to what  @bluesunny3 noted previously, I also see LCY/XW as one person; he has two parts within him the coexist to make who he is as a character. The moon is a part of the night time and yet sometimes show up during sunset. When it appears during the night time, I think about coldness and darkness, all of which represents LCY/XW’s revenge, obsession, and greed. On the other hand, the moon that appears during sunset represents warmth and light, which could also represent LCY/XW’s love and protection for XF. Thus I see LCY/XW as the same person who has two sides to himself…just like how the moon could coexist during the sunset and night time, living in the same sky.

     

    Aside from moon, the song also mentions how the fox is sitting by the sand dunes and waiting for the shepherd girl. I wanted to also gain a better understanding of sand dunes, and so I looked it up: “Dunes form where the beach is wide enough to allow for the accumulation of wind-blown sand, and where prevailing onshore winds tend to blow sand inland.” I think Xiao Feng’s name means small wind and or breeze, all of which is also very symbolic to the lyrics, “A fox is sitting on top of the sand dune, sitting on top of the sand dune, looking at the moon, but actually, it’s not watching the moon, it’s waiting for the shepherd girl to come back.” LCY/XW is the fox who has done wrong to the shepherd and is now waiting for the shepherd to come back…it’s waiting by the sand dune which is created by the wind, and that wind could be seen as XF.

     

    Lastly, I think the ost song “Little Fox” is sung in LCY/XW’s perspective. Perhaps XF’s last words for LCY/XW is from her view point in the “Little Fox” song. Her last words to LCY/XW is, “In the end, the fox was unable to wait for the girl.” To me, I think she felt like her existence wasn’t needed/isn’t worthy anymore since she, the shepherd girl, doesn’t have a reason to live anymore…no matter how much she may be intrigued by and or love the fox, her sheep has been devoured by the fox. LCY/XW killed XF’s love, hope, and happiness. Since the fox was unable to wait for the girl (the fox was sly and didn’t wait for the girl to protect her sheep), he will be punished by never being able to unite with her. He will only be able to continue waiting and hoping that he will one day reunite with her. And so… “A fox sitting on top of the sand dune. Sitting on top of the sand dune, looking at the moon. But actually, it’s not watching the moon. It’s waiting for the shepherd girl to come back.”

    Wow, loved your interpretation of the song. It’s so sad in so many levels. 

    Now, this drama is over so what do we watch now? Lol

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  2. 6 hours ago, hell59 said:

    I completely agree with everything you said. Also, CXX does have lovely hands and even though he is not super handsome, he is an amazing, charismatic actor. I became his fan!

    I thought I was the only one who noticed his hands bez I was saying to myself dang his hands are nicer than mine. Lol

    At first look he may not be as handsome as other male actors but how he protrayed his character was really good which is why u find him amazing. He also did really well as YH in the Legend of the condor hero drama with his excellent acting which I noticed him there as well. 

    I have seen really handsome actors that can’t pull off some scenes that CXX can with emotion just with his eyes or smile. I think he will have great potential in this industry. 

    Again, such pretty hands. :lol::lol:

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  3. 4 hours ago, tamachon said:

    Xiao Feng's sword scene at the end with english subs.

     

     

    Thank you for the sub.

     

    LCY said he will die with her if she dies. Too bad she made him promise to live on. 

     

    Also, I have to to agree with everyone if they just gave us a little more of cute scenes of the main couple then I would feel more satisfied with the ending. I feeling like the romance was on a shallow level when they were at the palace and don’t feel too sad abt XF death as much. It’s not the actors fault but the editing department.

     

    But, all in all they did really well bez they had great chemistry and great acting. Just would like to had more time with the main leads. I will start looking out for CXX dramas now on. Haha

     

    See everyone in the drama. :-)

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  4. 5 hours ago, lovecarnation said:

    I did not know about the dynasties in China and whether the qin dynasty or tang dynasty was first in ancient times, but I found many Japanese writings that resembled mandarin writing with different readings of course.

    yes, I was also very frustrated when I saw the makeup of the queen, I really couldn't think of how they made her face with short eyebrows almost nothing like that and not only that the lips were also very bad with a lipstick polish just in middle, really Looks like a Japanese model ... lol

    Qin dynasty is the first dynasty and was established by the first emperor, Qin Shi Huang several hundreds years before Tang Dynasty. Also, that story abt people going to Japan was originated from here. The first emperor wanted to find the elixir of eternal life and sent a group of people over there but they never came back. But, I don’t know if it’s true but you are correct many Japanese characters are Chinese. Also, when I hear them talk with that has the same word is the same pronounation in Chinese. Maybe..haha.. We are all cousins. :lol:

     

    Also, that queen has the most super crazy makeup...:astonished:....LOL

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  5. 2 hours ago, lovecarnation said:

    Thank you for your answer,  I don't know whether Japan's era influenced China, but I have heard a story in childhood when Japanese people were actually originally from China, they were a group of people sent by the king of the Qin dynasty to look for drugs that could live forever (cangshenbulao yao) and the group of people who went and did not come back again and stood up to be Japanese, this is a childhood story I have heard before, don't know if you have heard before?

    I heard that same story but you can expect them to remember their origins if it’s true. Also, Japan is well established by the time Tang Dynasty is around so I think maybe they were influenced and verse reversal as well. But, I can still be wrong but FL clothing is so much better than the queen. The queen makeup is so scary. Lol 

    i keep looking at her eyebrows to make sure if she really shaved them. Hahaha :lol:

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  6. 9 hours ago, lovecarnation said:

      does anyone aware or thinking like me that the female costumes of this series are more like Japanese or Korean costumes than traditional Chinese costumes?

    especially the queen of the Li dynasty, not only costumes , even makeup on her face like ancient Japanese people.
    I wonder this is an ancient Chinese drama why should the female casts must wear the costumes like Japanese or Korean for this drama?
     

     

    The FL and the queen costumes are actually from Chinese Tang Dynasty era. During that period they were very progress in their clothing and makeup. Show lots of cleveage and makeup were very different. If you google Tang Dynasty clothing and makeup then you will get your answer. Also, remember during that era Japanese was largely influenced by China.

     

    I hope I answered or at least clarified some of questions for you. :-)

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  7. 9 hours ago, pad-hari said:

    Why do you say so that he is not treating her well and to protect her from whom?  Doesn't all the higher ups Li dynasty people like her?

    No, he will not treat her well bez the higher the status it’s more dangerous. He treats XF bad so people can’t use her against him and she won’t get hurt from them as well. Remember what the original crown prince said to LCY. People who protected u at first is also the people will/can harm you later. That’s why he is doing that so the target won’t be on her but on SeSe.

     

    i hope that clarifies things.

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  8. 21 hours ago, marinated_lemon said:

     

    It has just posted ep 17-20 on most sites, but unsubbed yet. They usually sub it one by one.

     

    YT has parts of ep 21-25. I know it is not enough. But it enables us to hope that there are more eps to come perhaps after ep 20 is subbed. I wonder whats in store for ep 25-52. More tears, perhaps, as LCY gains more power?

     

    The wait is killing me too. Let's persevere.

    Here is a site that has the raw video up to eps 24. Enjoy

     

    http://dramas.biz/cn190214b/21.html

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  9. Someone here mentioned just heard the Director has apparently confirmed that they are working on an alternative ending so that both the book martyrs and love fools can get what they want. Don’t quote me on it but I’ve seen several posts now and it has apparently been commissioned by Youku (probably because they realised how successful the drama is).
    Copied from someone posting.

     

    Also, I heard the same thing but I think they will show both ending to satisfy book fan and others. Let you choose which ending for yourself. Alternative ending maybe be an extra episode. Haha...

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  10. 2 hours ago, clawedzip said:

     

    Wow...I didn't think it was possible for them to make the story more tragic, but they managed it...T_T

    I have to agree the author did make this story so much more tragic. One wonder this book was ranked one of the saddest in China. Also, the author is famous for making her male leads suffer with sad endings. Lol. Not funny at all. 

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  11. 4 hours ago, visiopeia said:

    I just finished watching till ep 16... but i need someone to translate what did the monk says to the Princess and after the princess walk out the monk says something  to the prince ? Can someone please help to translate?

    Monk basely told her to let go of the past and present relationships with him. She reply I am a man how could I have any relationship with him. So funny...lol

     

    Also, the monk said to CY don’t force/push to have this relationship because we all know he eventually will fight for her love. Again so tragic, met to fall in love but can’t be together. :cold_sweat:

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  12. 1 hour ago, visiopeia said:

    ep 10 really makes me burst into tears... seeing her loves one died... the part she tries to jump off the cliff makes me cries as well ... even though i ady know the ending (hahahaha thanks to the spoiler) .. i still want to continue watch it... let's cry together!

    Yes, let’s cry together. But, I hope they have lots of lovely dovely scenes before she remembers then we can cry again. Lol

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  13. 3 hours ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

    I already know this will be a heartbreaking mess but still excited to watch this. 

     

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    So she died at the end???

     

    Yes, she dies by stabbing herself after jumping off the cliff. ADu cushion her fall so she didn’t die from the fall but as a result ADu is dying. That’s why she stab herself wishing to go back home. So sad.

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  14. 12 hours ago, 12blbl said:
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    After reading the spoilers, it seems the male lead is a jerk lol. So my take to the spoilers, the girl jumped to the river because the guy betrayed her and he followed her, that’s already tragic, but then they survived, met again, rewind the romance and at the end she jump off the wall without him followed her. The story has double tragic lol, i better watch after it finished 

     

    Well in the novel in the very end she jumped off a cliff to die and he wanted to go after her but his soldiers were holding him back that’s why. 

     

    But, I do agree he was a jerk in the novel but the drama as of the first 8 eps they made his character seem better. You can see why he did it for revenge for his brother death and he thought those people were cruel to the Han people. Just my thought. Lol

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  15. 6 hours ago, joyceedreamer said:

    Anyone who have read the novel, could you please spoil it? I really want to know what happens...

     

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    Looks like both are going to have amnesia... wonder who is going to remember first... overall, I want to know what happens so I can prepare for this heartbreak. 

     

    Here is a link for some spoilers from a blog. She explained some scenes on each page and ending.

    http://xia0yuer.tumblr.com/post/24595824421/review-of-eastern-palace-and-scene-translation-an#axzz5fjTNrrvq

     

    Also, if you google “Eastern palace novel”, u will get the novel translated in English but it’s not finished. But, at least u get some info.

     

    Spoiler

    She will remember first after she runs a fever so bring out the tissue bez that is the start of everything going down hill. 

    He won’t remember until the very end and that’s when he knows that she has always loved him and only him. Damn, such a tragic love story. They were never met for each even though they loved each other. :bawling:

     

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  16. 1 hour ago, 12blbl said:

    I thought the male lead looked familiar, it turned out he played Yang Kang in the recent adaptation Legend of Condor Heroes. I don’t like Yang kang so i have minimal memories for his performance in LOCH, is he okay in this drama?

    Yes, his performance was good bez he was the only one got recognized for his good performance. Also, I thought he was able to bring the complexity of the character. I just watched eps 7 and u can tell how guilty he feels toward XF. I thought how cute and innocent it’s start but I keep telling myself to prepare. But, they r so cute together. :bawling:

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