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10 minutes ago, NitaA said:
Yeahhhhh,..... it's a bitter sweet ending. Sucks for SB, but great that no body else's died (TT .....BI)...
I think if the writer meant to end it this way, they needed to make sure viewers have attachment to SY's character. They can't just hide SY with a reason that her soul is weaker than SB and expect viewers be okay that SY get the benefit of SB's hard work. They could have made the two souls in and out take turn all those time, it could be easier to except that at the end, all back to their original place,.... whether it is the rightful place based on merit or not (up to viewers to decide).
PS. The characters of SB and SY are so different; hard to imagine that SY would hug her maids, or even have close relationship with the kitchen staff, "accidentally" grab the King's elbow, or even do "aum"..... (smh.... cannot picture it).
I cannot even imagine SY punching CJ lights out if he annoys her. Remember when CJ was asking advice from Director Hong, he said that Director Hong's advice will likely end up with SB killing him. Can anyone imagine now CJ being afraid of SY or knowing that SY will not be above hitting him in the face if she is annoyed?
Like I said, palace dynamics will change, since it was SB's social sphere. The palace maids, eunuchs, the concubines and even the cooks.
Writer should have the consideration on how to stay true to the plot before even penning in ending a story.
5 minutes ago, aisling said:Someone on TW said Cheoljong turned from a sex maniac into an alcoholic cause after So Bong left he never had the same amazing sex anymore
Now that would be entirely possible! Could also be a reason for him dying early too!
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6 minutes ago, Raffles said:
It's apparent SY never told him. Ugh.
The entire thing is all mucked up, grrr! I am so upset with it. SY deserved to live (?), the writers never gave us a chance to invest in SY's emotions and personality, while going all out on SB, so how can they expect us to empathize with a character that was never really there in the first place.
The spin offs were saving graces for the writers, hoping they could trick the watchers to go into this bubble wherein SY deserved to be beloved by the king because of their history from the well upto the bamboo forest.
But like what CJ told HJ, he did not love her just because of their history like the well incident. CJ, I am so sure, did not just love the SB persona but grew to love what he was seeing and what he has seen. Did he love her at first? Nope. His heart saw her as SB and that was what he loved.
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17 minutes ago, aisling said:
And we thought the Chinese version had bad endings
You know what I just realised? I finally caught the famous second lead syndrome! Can you believe I’ve never suffered from SLS even though I’ve been watching dramas for over a decade?
But I guess this is what people feel when they root for the person who ends up alone while loving a main lead?I’m team So Bong all the way!
So Bong will always remain my true eccentric Queen and the one who Cheoljong fell in love with.I think the King did realize that it was no longer the woman he loved, remember, he does remember all the things that SB says to him. I bet he also remembered what SB told him that he was a man from the future.
Hence, the scene of him pondering on whether or not he lost something very precious while looking at the Queen's dictionary.
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A propos to all who bore down upto till the shitty end. It sucks, all throughout it, no indication of it being SY except in moments he went girly and screamed her head off after that hot night with the king.
Let's just agree to disagree. I say ending was RickRoll'D crap. but thats me, I am not close minded to consider a heterosexual man can develop feelings for another heterosexual man. It does happen. I believe the writers had to bow down to the SK conservatives that frown at that kind of relationship. Even as a possibility. If SK was like Thailand, I bet, it wouldn't end that way.
On a note though, SK drama can run a good 20-30 episode wonderful drama and muck it up on the final episode. There was never a sageuk that ran well and ended up wonderfully. I guess, SK societal norms don't do well for good endings.
BTW, one thing I really, really didn't like about SY as opposed to SB is that she was such a coward. When KJG gave her a task to do, was it to spy on the King, rather than go against her clan, do the right thing, she does what? Kill herself?! Okaaayyyy.
SB got threatened, got assassination attempts but never did back down. The more SB is pushed, the harder SB pushed back, SY however just crumpled in a corner to die. So in my eyes, SY's redemption was not to take the position of the King's beloved but to go with BI, in the afterlife.
Who deserved to live more? It is the one who didn't give up at the slightest sign of trouble.
Looking at my signature on this forum,
Who was it that loved without hesitation, without conditions and without limitations?
I'd say the one who went all in, damn the repercussions, because he had nothing to lose.
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1 minute ago, aren_117 said:
Remember that BH acquired Soyong's embroidery and music Skills after he woke up? What if it's the same with Soyong? I really believe that So Yong is not just a passive occupant of her body. I dunno. I'm just justifying everything now. Hahaha
Its called muscle memory I think, once learned cannot be unlearned like riding a bike, you forget for a bit but then its there. The cooking skills were all JBH/SB, the excellent people skills were all him too. His personality is the one the shone through, but the feminine side were all but mere shadows or wisps of recollection. But then, I am not so sure what kind of take would the writers have.
The spin offs were to justify the road the story ended, I guess.
For me it would have been a better ending, if SY soul had left and eventually met up with BI soul, one who loved her honestly and protected her without conditions. I guess, I wanted a better end for BI as well as justification for his sacrifice.
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Well I am going to sleep now, I am so upset about this. Not a very happy camper with this ending. For me, it smacks of how backward still they are in societal norms (it is glaringly obvious what they tried to avoid).
I guess SK is happy that it is now back to a male -female scenario rather than the heterosexual male wanting to have sex with another heterosexual male.
CJ will never again experience the 'aummm' with his queen! After all, I do not think SY has it in her to be the initiator.
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1 minute ago, aren_117 said:
Bong Hwan remembers all of Soyong's past memories so maybe Soyong also knows about Bong Hwan's memories in the future too? And her personality is basically a tamer Bong Hwan. So I still think they are one. But I still need more explanations!
What she remembers are the memories that JBH had while he was in her body, but bear in mind that she does not have his knowledge (politics, skills and over all experience). Remember that SB and CJ have their nightly ritual of story telling, so does this mean it does not happen after?
SY does not have memories of the future. So she will have nothing to say further about what interests CJ. He is interested in social science, remember as SB said, since he always looked forward to their nightly talks.
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2 minutes ago, redyellowred said:
..And I thought the industry have started becoming more progressive
Progressive? In what dimension are we talking about here? LOL!
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Let us see here, the dynamics of the entire palace will change because in the first place SY is not and in no way SB!
Kitchen Dynamic - SY does not cook. So the created relationship between the royal chef and the cooks in the kitchen, kaput! The relationship cultivated there will just be a mere fragment of the memory (which we would like to assume that the writers would forget). In reality, those fostered relationship makes a person what he/she is.
Will this mean that SY will never set foot in the kitchen, since she really does not have any inclination to cook? Neither does she have the talent.
SB has a good relationship with the concubines. How will it be after? How will the concubines react to the former super friendly queen to this self-conscious queen?
Royal Doctor - We have to remember that the Royal Physician also has some sort of love-hate relationship with SB! He was the one who knew the emotional struggles of SB! He may not understand half of what SB says, he did say it.
The eunuchs and the palace maids. SB formed a sort of relationship with them as well, remember during the fill up the lake fiasco?
All of these became open ended.
How on earth did they resolve the issues, disregarding everything else that was consequential to the build up of SB's social sphere?
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how to vote multiple times!!!! I want to vote on 2 answers!
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56 minutes ago, shimshimae said:
yes!
I know right! the first time I heard her say "Jeonha" I felt disconnected - couldn't accept - CJ should also have realised and poor CJ he must be missing BH and SY should rightfully feel like an imposter - just how is this a happy ending
CJ will never hear the woman he loves call him, oh, Cheoljong! For me that is so sad, after all, he practically lost his identity when he became King and it was only until SB came that he gets to hear his name being called, said or mentioned.
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SB was such a challenge for CJ. He learned to over come his prejudice, his fears, he learned to trust and be honest. Let us be honest here, if it was SY, will he be the same? I do not even think, SY will do what SB did to the GDQ and DQ, challenging them on their own turf. Standing up against a literal giant (Kim Clan) abandoning them because they tried to kill her.
SY reacted differently to being threatened, she jumped into the lake. The moment she did that, ended it for me on expecting anything from her at all. Her story ended there. That is it.
1 minute ago, partyon said:@Lmangla and I organized a worst k-drama endings poll on the forum last year.
Next time we organize a new worst k-drama endings event, we'll make sure to include Mr. Queen
Everyone is free to vote!
I will vote multiple times!
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1 minute ago, pauliza said:
Delurking because of the ending ...
@pauliza grrr IKR! I am so pissed right now!
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Somehow I cannot imagine SY slapping the king if he goes and say something stupid, or hit him repeated for being an azz! It is so totally not SB anymore. The writers are trying to make CJ a man, who falls for women just because of her face, meh, I thought CJ was the epitome of a person who doesn't care what kind of person you are, flaws and all. He loved therefore he loved you end of story. So does this mean, he will never meet the woman he fell in love with? He learned to struggle with? The one he learned to be honest with?
That makes the ending so sad and pathetic.
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1 minute ago, cenching said:
Happy ending for all the characters but not for majority of the viewers
I guess, the writers believed that SK isn't really ready for a heterosexual man falling for another heterosexual man, although in a woman's body. Wait does that make him transgender? No offense, but I am not sure how to qualify the situation.
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Just now, aisling said:
Jesus w. I can’t believe this guys... I’m so mad, disappointed, bewildered right now I can’t think straight...
What was the point of the whole story? What??? Cheoljong fell in love with Bong Hwan’s personality and So Yong can’t never be the same without Bong Hwan’s influence. What the F is this ending!!!!!
IKR! CJ loved SB personality, flaws and all! So if she turns into SY, well I guess the spin off was to justify SY's return. I guess so its going to be a make you feel good moment, since they loved each other from the start. LOL!
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1 hour ago, shimshimae said:
very angry and disappointed WHY JUST WHYYYYYYYY
It was such a RickRoll'D ending for me! Loved all 1-19 eps.. meh the ending leaves so much to be desired.
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The entire story wasn't even told in SY's perspective so how did it end up to be her life??! She wanted her life to end. *sighs*
Gah! I am annoyed! I lost interest watching the subs.
It doesn't make sense! CJ loved SB for all her faults and eccentricities, what is going to happen if those no longer exists? Surely, sheltered SY is not going to act like the arrogant SB. All those eccentricities that SB had, CJ loved, surely he is going to notice she has changed, right? A man in love would know if the woman he is with is the same one he fell in love with.
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1 minute ago, cenching said:
I have no problem if SY is back BUT give me a good explanation.....
I don't like this at all! Tsk so SY is going to reap all JBH's hardwork?? What? Why?
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4 minutes ago, Chibi8535 said:
I REALLY wouldn't mind if they could squeeze a similar ending to what we got for the Romance of the Tiger & Rose... it's imo, one of the BEST done endings of these kinda dramas. It's also happy, open for a season 2 if they wish to continue AND so logically and beautifully explained....
And as far as I see how ep 19 ended, and the preview of ep 20, it can EASILY head that way!
and of course, we also badly need a season 2 of Mr. Queen!!!!!!
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subs up!!!! but its so laggy now!
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1 hour ago, Madu Mita said:
Genuine question to those who are gynaecologists / moms who have given birth
is it possible for your fetus to remain relatively unharmed after ,
running around , jumping from palace walls , pushed around , trekking in winter with thin clothes, almost pushed off a cliff , strangled , stressed , injured and rolling around while surviving in minimal food?
Is it possible for your foetus to come out relatively strong and healthy while being born early with a mom who has a serious heart condition that can cause her to die after witnessing deaths of her friends, separating from her loved ones and being tortured ?
I just want to know , if it’s really possible by nature or is it because that your body gets extra immunisation after you’ve time travelled ?
I’ve heard women have miscarriages during stress and even in some of the Chinese dramas I’ve witnessed one bad news and bam : miscarriage occurs.
I just don’t get how these women remain pregnant and give birth to healthy babies after all this time .
Is the some supernatural force at play ?
I am not sure about the superbabies but, I come from a family of doctors, babies are usually sturdier if they are very healthy and no health issues. Some women even stay being active and sporty until so close to giving birth. SB is raised in a family of opulence so I bet she is very healthy. Abortions and miscarriages usually happen if both the mother and child have been unusually distressed health-wise. Aside from that she is also taking medications to keep the baby healthy and stay in her womb.
Bear in mind that hormones do play a bit on a pregnant woman, so it wouldn't be so good for nature to have a woman miscarry just because of stress, right? Nature is not that harsh, after all.
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freaking twitter is over capacity! RickRoll'D does that mean? Is that because of Mr. Queen?
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[Drama 2020/2021] Queen Cheorin/Mr. Queen, 철인왕후
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As I said, they, the writers went out splendidly, yup they made azzes of themselves. The last episode turned everything a very large plothole! I am sure that CJ is wondering where his arrogant, trashtalking queen of his has gone. He loves that in SB. He knows that it is inherent in her personality, surely the writers didn't think it would last like that. LOL! Have they never experienced true love? When you love a person, minute changes in their personality will be the first thing you will notice.
I don't know if it was justified that HJ was pretending to be the savior gets kicked out of the palace, doesn't this make SY the HJ the second? Pretending to be someone she isn't? HJ didn't save the King, SY didn't save the banquet. She was not a lot of things in this drama LOL! It was only the body that was her. The body who jumped into the lake.
I get the feeling that the episodes of 1-19.5 was written by one author then the last .5 was written by an entirely different author. Because the progression of the story made no sense at all.
It became an entirely different story at the end.