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  1. 1 hour ago, aisling said:

     
    Well, I think we just stumbled upon a huge plot hole!!!

     

    Because according to what we saw, BHS made that phone call the night JMS was kidnapped. The night he returned the car keys to DMS at the bar. You can clearly see BHS was wearing the same clothes when he made the phone call and when he returned the coat. It couldn’t have been months after that. So it doesn’t make sense that he was talking about the foreman when DMS was still alive.

    It's not the same day even though he was wearing the same clothes. It takes place after he gave Haesoo the fish pendant and after the foreman was murdered. Not sure what his intentions were but it seems bae hee sung hatched the plan to frame do hyun soo for his crimes after min seoks death. He gave hae soo the fish pendant to give to hyun soo, he also left the message for the cleaner ahjumma implying that he was do hyun soo. So I think the purpose of the call was more  to frame hyun soo than to threaten the ahjumma. 

     

     

    Also, some thoughts on what happened between cha ji won and hyun soo in ep 13.

     

    I was devastated by what happened in the end but I also believed that the events that happened were somewhat believable and not as far fetched as most would think. 

     

    I think the main contrast that the episode brought out, was how strong cha ji won's character was, and how weak hyun suu is, despite how others seem to see him as somewhat impenetrable. There also still seems to be a disconnect between how ji won views hyun suu vs.what kind of person hyun suu actually is despite what happens in ep 11. I think the writer Is doing her best so that these 2 characters get on the same page by ep 14. As the viewer, we've seen all the panic attacks, impulsiveness and manic behaviour hyun suu displays to know he is really quite broken. But ji won doesn't, she only sees how he functions in front of her and how he takes care of Eunha. Ep 13 was the first time she has ever seen hyun suu coming close to having a panic attack. I am actually glad that hyun suu somewhat snaps in front of jiwon  at the end of ep 13, so that the two characters finally know everything about each other.

     

    As to why hyun soo doesn't tell jiwon this himself, the thing is, it is too difficult for someone relate their mental issues with someone else without feeling like they were getting shut down. While they were driving home, hyun suu was open about the feelings of fear and paranoia he was going through, but I felt the way that ji won responded (to have faith in the might of the police) was logical, but not what hyun suu needs to hear at that point in time, and probably a wrong response for someone suffering from paranoia. In fact, I don't think he was calmed down by jiwon's words, he seemed to put his mask back on and shut himself out again after that scene. 

     

    While I think hyun soo has no intention of hurting jiwon at the ending ep 13, it was a well writtened scene that both served to help jiwon realize how mentally ill her husband really is while keeping the viewers in suspense. To gloss over his mental issues and have them trust each other 100% when not all the cards are laid out on the table would be disappointing and unrealistic. 

     

    As for jiwon doubting hyun suu, I also thought that it was a rational decision. So far she has never come across actual proof that her husband was involved in any crime. But the fingerprint was undeniable evidence. Although she requested for detective choi to not handcuff hyun suu, what she meant was, if there ever comes a time when hyun suu has to be handcuffed, she would want to be the one to do it gently for him. I believe she was trying to help him in the scene, as we also understand that jiwon has complete faith in the law and the criminal punishment system, and genuinely thought that arresting him was the best way to prove his innocence. 

     

    So in summary, I don't think the ending was illogical at all. 

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  2. 10 minutes ago, joybran said:

    My question is what was he doing for the three years between Do Min Seok's death and the night he hit Do Hyun So with his car. He was still in touch with Yeom Sang Chul per their phone conversation. Had he been killing during those years? And if he was on his way to kill Do Hae Soo because she had seem him at the funeral, why had he waited for three years? Or had Yeom Sang Chul just located Jung Mi Sook three years after her escape and amnesia? Did YSC decide to keep her as insurance after he couldn't get hold of BHS and BMW paid him off?

     

    Isn't it fun to speculate?

    Yeah I think he was going to meet Jung mi sook. I also low key speculate Kim moo Jin was the one who freed mi sook (saw her in the basement in the videotape, went back to free her but didn't report to police). Maybe moo Jin helps her recover her memory or something. 

    4 minutes ago, joybran said:

    @violina, the taxi driver is in prison. I assumed that his explanation for why he kidnapped "Baek Hee Seong" was the end of his purpose in the story. However, writer-nim has surprised us again by having Jung Mi Sook show up alive. I had forgotten that DHS asked KMJ to visit him in prison a few episodes back. Maybe that will be related in the next episode.

    Yes somehow I feel moo Jin is related to the taxi driver and mi sook in some way. (they kept moo Jin and taxi drivers meeting a secret). 

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  3. Oh, and I also realized that the wedding rings and hand cuffs are metaphors for each other.... 

     

    Also just to clarify my earlier mistake, the knife used by hyun suu is featured in the first episode. It is double-edged, sorry, was too eager to believe it was single bladed 

    2 minutes ago, thesuitelife547 said:

    I just watched a video theorizing about the trailer for what'll happen in episode 14, it's from a channel called Drama addiction and I love their insights, and it brought up some of the same points that we brought up here and some new ones. One of them plays off the fact that DHS did that to CJW in order to save his family and in order not to get caught. In the video, they said that they believe DHS did that in order to disassociate himself from his family. He got the call from who he believes is the accomplice who knows all about his family and perhaps theorized that if he shows him not caring for his family, then that would bring the accomplice to only target him. It's like saying that if DHS is able to do that kind of thing to his wife, then he absolutely has no feelings for her. Like a show because DHS would know that the security footage would get out and they'd be able to see him actually doing it.

     

    Also, they brought up the phone call that GMJ got when she was talking to BHS and he was manipulating her telling her that they found the body and the police would come. I think naturally we just assumed it was the police, that's what I think I did, but the video theorizes that it was actually DHS's burner phone given to him by YSC since the phone numbers align which means that he contacted GMJ about something but probably posing as someone else since she wouldn't know it was his phone.

     

    Plus, I think someone mentioned this before, but I totally didn't notice that CJW and DHS were running up the stairs are the police are outside of their house in the trailer in the beginning haha.

    In the preview it also shows they are handcuffed together 

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  4. https://www.instagram.com/p/CFCg1X2AFWz/?igshid=fu63gw0hw8s7

     

    It's the 

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    Cliff again. 

     

    I have a feeling, while hyun suu's wit, hee sung's arrogance and jiwon's intelligence will lead the police to eventually finding out who the real culprit is, hee sung will not let hyun suu go easily without a fight. 

     

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    As I mentioned, mi sook's memories resemble hyun soo's first memory when he was 10. Hyun soo might have been min seoks first experiment. He must have witnessed terrible things while being  locked in the basement. 

     

    The last act will involve hyun suu recovering his memories and the redemption of min seok. 

     

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    Even though hyun su outsmarts hee sung, hee sung kidnaps him and locks him in the basement. Maybe mijia is locked together with him, and he remembers his mother and his memories. He manages to free both himself and mi jia but hee sung chases after him in the forest. 

     

    While hee sung is in manic pursuit of hyun su, hyun su remembers what min seok told him. He finds his way in the forest and lures hee sung straight off a cliff. 

    I think it's a poetic and beautiful way to end the show, how min seok is his son's greatest fear, but also his biggest saviour. 

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  5. Just finished watching ep 13. I am quite impressed with the writer, she left a lot of clues/(easter eggs?) in this ep:

    "I can see you but you can't see me" 

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     this statement is ironic, because the black box camera captured him on the pay phone. This also alludes to the fact that there is a black box in hyun soo's car when hee sung dropped the maid's hair in his boot

    Hyun suu was 

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    wearing his watch when he got the strange call. most likely he wore it to the phone booth. It is an ironclad alibi that he did not go the the mountain. Camera also clearly shows he received the call at 2:30am, this is likely to be important

     

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    Jung mi sook's

     first memories directly mirrors hyun soo's first memory in the forest. what if hyun soo was min seok's first victim? 

     

    Camera does a close up of

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    the blade that hyun soo uses to threaten jiwon. The blade is one sided and hyun soo is clearly using the blunt end to jiwon's neck.

    In the preview jiwon and hyun soo can be seen

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    running up the second floor stairs while the police enter the workshop. Means ji won left with hyun soo willingly even though she knows the police are already there

    Jiwon and hyunsoo then goes to 

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    hide in a hotel room #908, they are seen using a laptop. Most likely they are checking hyun soo's watch's gps data or better, owner of the green car calls hyun soo and they are reviewing the black box image

     

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  6. I am scared to watch ep 13 with subs. In fact I am now scared to watch the rest of the show because the stakes are wayyyy too high.... 

     

    In the next preview we see bhs holding jiwon's damaged police pass. 

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    As I mentioned earlier, hyun soo made jiwon take off her pass. But I also wonder if he took it and used it to fake jiwon's death

    Eunha is unsure of opening the door

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    This is too scary for me.... Nothing can happen to our egg tart

    The baeks are preparing a ton of money 

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    To pay Yong sang chul after he kills hyun su? 

    Bhs says he doesn't like someone because he/she is unpredictable

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    Is he referring to do hae soo? He looks like he is at her house. At this time he doesn't know moo Jin is involved, so I hope moo Jin can outsmart him

    Hyun su tells jiwon they will meet again 

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    They are in a hotel, and hyun so is going to meet yong San chul, not bhs? Or hyun su is smarter than that? 

    Also the black box in the car near the telephone booth will be important. In fact there is a black box in hyunsu's car!! 

     

    This show is really too scary and unpredictable

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  7. 3 hours ago, Jillia said:

    Okay this scene is really something else but must stay... Ji Won did the same with the female killer in the second episode. :o So it's kind of a interesting parallel.

     

     

    Source: DCGall

     

    Als this was shown in the preview and it got me worried... Ji Won's police badge.

     

     

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    Yeah that's what we've been thinking as well: that there might be a mole in the police. So of course Do Hyun Soo would be wary of any interaction with the police. So you might right that many factors played into why he snapped and one of them might be a possible mole.

    About ji wons badge, if u looked at the previews, she ditched it halfway when her and hyun soo were running away from their home. Praying that she and eunha will be safe!!! 

     

    Meanwhile in the TV special, they did provide a list of people whose betrayal will change the game

    I can't believe in the span of just 2 episodes, almost all the characters on that list (besides maybe moo jin) have already betrayed hyun soo. Guy just has the worst luck. 

     

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  8. Whenever the vision of his father appears, DHS consistently resists what the father urges him to do, so i want to have faith that he doesn't have any intention to harm ji won. Maybe seeing his father made him realized that he failed to protect his mother, and ji won would be the most vulnerable if he gets locked up. 

     

    I think you are right, he made it look this way to keep Ji won as a victim, so that she can still continue her career even after he's gone. I think he realized he's been forced into a corner, everyone he cares about is in danger (his sister, his daughter and jiwon), he cannot just pretend to be hee sung anymore, he needs to come out of hiding and face the demon himself. I wonder if this is what the producer meant by the change in hyun soo's character, that he stops hiding and starts to take action...

     

    Also, the director has given us a clue! After the cctv cuts off, 

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    The one who exhales is hyun soo. It can only be him as it doesn't make sense for jiwon to exhale after the cctv cuts off, she must be more tensed than relieved..

     

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  9. 2 hours ago, Tuiwgn said:

     

    @Forsythia, totally with you there! Flower of Evil may not be perfect but it is still daebak! I am loving every single episode!

     

     

    @chickenchopflipflop83, when I read the first sentence,I was like -“hein? What’s wrong with Cha Ji Won?” Hahaha, husband like that is in extinction, she is soooo lucky!!!

     

    but then, I remember in one of the interviews,LJG said to viewers to not be too serious about the drama and just enjoy it as it is...

     

    To me, it is a beautiful story about love  ,and on the more serious side, it touches on biased or stereotyped perceptions of people...

    i also think another main theme is contrast, or the dangers of perceiving concepts as polar opposites with no in betweens.

    Like faked love vs. real love? Psychopath vs innocence? Violence vs. vulnerability? Danger vs. Safety?

    We all know that in the show, hee sung faked love in order to learn real love, he is borderline psychopath but he is also innocent, he is violent and vulnerable at the same time, and he puts himself in danger in order to protect the safe haven that is his house and family.  

    The show challenges  the viewer to question if those concepts are really polar opposites of each other, and hence whether a beautiful flower can bloom from a seed of evil. 

     

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  10. 2 hours ago, Forsythia said:

    I know that i might seems only try to give excuses for all the flaws you pointed out but i honestly believe that all of these unthinkable situations or stupid choices made by the character aren't imposibble at all and it could happen in real life too.  Well, i agree that this is not a flawless drama. But, this is not a stupid drama too and they surely don't treat viewers as stupid or brain-dead like you said. They raised some good issues and points that make viewers ponder on them in their heart and mind. In terms of chatacterisation, i do think Flower of Evil is doing better than most korean dramas i have ever seen especially if we want to compare among korean crime dramas. So, i appreciate the efforts they put in writing those characters.

     

    (this paragraph is not written to reply the above quote.)

    I really love how the director and writer pressed on the theme of contrast and used it in almost every aspects of this drama. Even the child abuse things were written to portray the contrast between do hyunsu and baek heesung. The ability to connect past scenes with the current ones are brilliant too. And i am loving the symbolism that they put to delicately explains an episode. There are so many positive and insightful things in this drama that i find it fascinating. Amidst the flaws, i do think Flower of Evil is a well-made drama. 

     

     

     

    sorry to cut short your post but i second your opinion. 

     

    The only thing i personally find impossible is Cha Ji Won's reaction throughout the show. If I had a husband who looks like lee joon gi, takes care of my daughter and cooks and cleans and feeds me well... honestly i don't care what lies he has told or side hobby he has.. not even murder is an issue for me... hhhaaha

    to be honest besides the acting, the scripting, directing and cinematography are all some of the most thoughtfully executed I had ever seen. I often compare this show to world of married, while the similarities are there, i find how the characters reacted in world of married is a lot more convoluted than flower of evil (even though in flower of evil there are much higher stakes at play). 

     

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  11. @Jillia@-Love Blossom- yup i would hate the writer if she went on the "we met when they were kids" trope, because that would kinda defeat the whole idea of the show. I felt that the show had a very strong message on how 2 random people can come together and develop strong love for each other as long as they were willing to put in the effort and to stick around each other through thick and thin. Real love is never as effortless as something that is predestined, it involves hard work like having the courage to face up to the harsh truth (Jiwon) or perpetuating falsehoods for the sake of the other partner's happiness (hyun su - i really loved how we initially found the youtube videos creepy, but later realized its an act of love, of him trying to fix his shortcomings in order to make her happy). 

     

    However regarding the memory loss, that's not really what i meant. Was trying to think what is the purpose of the writer erasing Hyun Soo's memory: 

     

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    option 1 : character development for Hyun Soo
    it might involve his mother in some way, and through this incident we can perhaps understand why he shut out his feelings and why he is so susceptible to accepting this psychopath identity that others had branded him with. It will also help explain why he has a tendency towards violence when his loved ones are in danger (i.e. the cassette tape of his mother,  and when ji won was assaulted by the gangster). In a way it will help us fully unravel hyun soo's character, and I guess I am ok with this direction

     

    option 2: to introduce more twists regarding his identity
    the other reason why his past is erased could be because the writer is planning a final twist regarding his true identity. We thought we know him as do hyun soo pretending to be baek hee sung but what if he was baek hee sung all along? This "switched at birth" trope is the one kdrama trope that i really really hope wont happen besides the "we met when we were children" one. I think its outrageous, outdated and not logical. 

     

    In the meantime, if i assume option 1 to be true, then i feel worried for Ji Won and Hae Soo:
     

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    i feel like there is a possibility of an upcoming incident where either hae soo or ji won will be harmed, and Hyun Su recovers his memories through this incident. if that happens, its going to be heart breaking

     

    Also just finished watching the last few translated part of lee joon gi's IG live and now i have anxiety again....

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    he mentions it was heart wrenching for him to see chae won in real life after reading the script for ep 16. Why do i feel that either one of them will perish? 
    Also there is a huge scene involving do hyun su and baek hee sung that is yet to come. Joon Gi said he had a 1.5hour call with ji hoon to discuss how to film this scene the next day, which means that it must have been a pivotal shoot. I think its probably a showdown between the 2 characters, and we know from the hints that the show has thrown us, both cannot co-exist, only one will survive. 


    Its rare that this close to the finale, i still have absolutely NO IDEA how the entire story will play out. The previews for ep 12 also looks super misleading:
     

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    detective choi does not arrest hyun su? why? i am sure hyun su will not sell his sister out. Why do i have a feeling they will hatch a plan to use hyun su as the bait to catch the real accomplice? Also, does hyun su speculate that there is a mole in the police force as someone with the knowledge of the sting operation called yeom sang chul? It must be important for hyun su to not get arrested so that he can lure the real accomplice out, that's why detective choi doesnt arrest him. In fact when hae soo comes to the station to confess the same day, i think both ji won and detective choi will prevent her from doing so in order to not mess up the plan to catch the accomplice. That's why jiwon said she felt so wronged. 

    regarding the housekeeper and the body that was found, my theory is that the house keeper is employed by yeom sang chul and maintains regular contact with him. yeom sang chul threatens baek man woo with the photo and is killed. This is witnessed by the housekeeper, who then takes the burner phone as evidence to warn gong mi jia about how dangerous her husband and son are. I think the body found is Yeom Sang Chul, and Gong Mi Jia, upon finding out the truth, will try to help hyun su. 

    There might be evidence leading to baek hee sung when they found yeom sang chul's body , and in the end, ji won might have no choice but to arrest Hyun Su who is still under the identity of hee sung, which is why we see him getting cuffed. But honestly i have no idea how this will play out, as no way they gonna keep the ML out of action for the last 5 episodes. 

     



     

     

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  12. 21 minutes ago, Jillia said:

    Don't worry! :D

     

    I feel like there isn't much difference between they way Ji Won addresses Hyun Soo. They're all affectionate terms (especially chagiya and dangshin)

     

    Eun Ha appa = just indicating Hyun Soo is Eun Ha's father, in the teaser Ji Won is talking to her mother about Eun Ha appa, she wouldn't say Hee Sung oppa or chagiya when talking to her mother about her husband. :)

     

    oppa = we all know that one. :D

     

    chagiya = darling/honey, more formal would be yeobo (but my friends told me young people rarely use yeobo anymore), it can be used for married and unmarried couples

     

    dangshin = can be translated as "you" and can be used towards strangers as well (as in "you", not darling) but it means honey/darling for married couples.

    Can't wait when she finally addresses him as hyun soo ah... Affectionately 

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  13. @noor1

    It's the trappings of a Korean drama yah... Its the system whereby the TV station buys a concept before the full script is developed and then proceed to produce the RickRoll'D out of the material WHILE the drama is still airing. A lot of pressure is placed on the writer to rush out scripts to give time for the performance, production and post production, and TV stations exert a lot of control over what the writer writes in terms of meeting broadcast standards, answering to product sponsors, actors' management requests and providing instant gratification to boost audience ratings. It is a super stressful and not ideal environment for a production, and I believe Korea is the only country that does this. So considering all that, I think this drama has already done a very good job. 

     

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  14. @Nodame and @violina@violina thanks for the post.

     

    Maybe I should place the crying scene under the caption of scenes that left a strong impression, rather than scenes I didn't like. It's not that I disliked ljg's performance, its more that I didn't enjoy it in the sense that u don't enjoy watching someone go through something like that. It was just too impactful and real. (also I don't think it was about feeling uncomfortable with a man crying, more of empathising with it so much that it's no longer entertainment). I also think this was what the actor was trying to elicit from the viewer. 

     

    As I mentioned, I believe the way it was portrayed was very well thought out as it ties back to the flashback scene about why babies cry. And I agree that it probably is an intentional approach by the director. 

     

    And to be able to abandon inhibition and portray a scene like that, delivering an artistic continuity with the narrative without overdoing it really rests on the capability of the actor. I am always impressed by lee joon gi's acting, so what I'm saying it's its too good and too raw for my weak heart. 

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  15. Finally sat down with a glass of beer and watched the whole episode properly with subs.. 

    The feels... LJG and MCW's just have such a natural chemistry.. i shall touch on that later. 

     

    things that i loved:

    1) the use of flashbacks in this episode (in fact in every episode) is so well done. You could tell that the writer had meticulously wrote each flashback to deepen our understanding/enhance the dramatic impact of the specific episode it was placed in. When Jiwon said that Eunha was crying because she was feeling several emotions but did not have the language and means to express it, that line was also a metaphorical description of Hyun Soo's character. (She low keyed call her husband out for being a baby, which he totally is). This paved the way for Hyun Soo's eventual outburst, and helped us understand his tears and his inability to cope after shoring up so many emotions over the years.  

     

    2) That scene when they went back to the house broke me. The house is a very prominent motif in the show, to hyun soo, it is a structural expression of his inner psyche (as what the director mentioned) , to Ji won, it is  the physical manifestation of the years of effort and love that both of them had put into their relationship. This is the first time both their viewpoints on what the house represented to them converged and it was very emotional indeed. When Hyun Soo realized what the house should have meant to him, and how he came so close to losing it, the sense of grief and loss was palpable;  it was hard to breathe just watching him deal with all these feelings. 

    3) the chemistry between MCW and LJG on the bridge
    The bridge scene was something that i loved and was also slightly bothered by  (will get back to that later). I really enjoyed the scene, it was well written and the performance really hit hard. I loved that you could tell both MCW and LJG were trying to push each other to the limits of their emotional expression as actors, but it never felt combative. They really have a very natural chemistry and synergy as actors. When Ji Won tried to shut Hyun Soo's rambling out by saying "because that was all i could do/it couldn't be helped", i couldn't help but teared up. 

     

    4) Hyun soo's I Love You
    It was rather understated for a line that I am sure most viewers were eagerly waiting for, but i kinda liked the low key treatment. For once, the characters are not made to go through hell or physical sacrifice for the viewer to feel vindicated of their love. It was simply a "if you really think I love you, then let me just put it in words if it could make you at ease." I'm glad they didn't make a big deal out of it (or made Hyun Soo suffer more just to prove his love for Ji Won). 

     

    5) Their natural banter at the "bed talk" scene was so satisfying to watch. I particular loved it when Ji Won said "Your journey to come to me is so absurd (maldo andwae)" and Hyun So replied, "No, you're the most absurb thing to ever happen to me." It was so romantic and wasn't cringe at all. 

     

    6) Kim Ji Hoon (aka the real baek hee sung), what can i say other than "click, click, click...." if i hear that sound at night imma freak out. 

     

    7) ASMR livestream realness, 'nough said 

     

    What I didn't like:
    1) there were a couple of lose ends in this episode that felt like the writer was under pressure to rush things and tie everything up. Like how BMW knew Hyunsoo was working with the police, how Ji won knew Hae soo killed the village head, how Hyun soo completely forgot about the photo of the accomplice and moo jin even though this is the first time i felt moo jin was genuinely worried and being a nice guy towards him. Nevertheless I think the main points of the episode were done well, and I can live with that. This is a great drama so far and i would hate for it to be ruined by pressuring the writer to rush through the last few episodes. 


    2) Hyun soo's crying on the bridge, its not that i didn't like the scene, it was just that I was quite bothered by it. I think Lee Joon Gi threw all inhibitions out the window and was really going for some ugly crying mid way through. I was a bit bothered by how he was crying like a child, and I was clenching my fists and cringing the whole time because, you know that uncomfortable feeling you have when you watch someone go through something embarrassing and you wished you weren't there to witness it? that was exactly how i felt. However, to a certain extent, i feel it was intentionally done this way to illicit a strong reaction from the viewer. I mean it all ties back with the flashback scene, and how Hyun Soo is infantile and extremely vulnerable when expressing emotions because he doesn't really know how to. It also makes you understand why he has been keeping it all in for all these years and why he was so insistent to claim that he cannot feel anything when the truth is he just didn't know how to deal with it. 

     

    3) Hyun Soo's missing memories from age 1 -9, I smell a korean drama trope. SUBVERT IT PLEASE!!! 

     

     

     

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  16. Can I ask a question? BMW calls yeom sang chul on the phone to tell him that hyun soo is working with the police. Did I miss something, did Hyun Soo tell him BMW that he was working with the police? 

    If not who told BMW? 

     

    From what I remember, only the police, hyun soo, hae soo and moo Jin knows that the police are involved. 

     

    Not sure if this is a just a convenient loophole, I found the fact that hyun soo just left moo Jin behind a little disturbing. I think it's totally understandable, although moo jin did go out on a limb for him lol. 

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