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Everything posted by KimSooHanMoo

  1. When I posted my latest post before this, I thought it would be my last post here until there is further development. But after observing what has been happening on socmed over the past few days, I have decided to say my piece here as a Hyunbin-only fan. I will start by laying down some facts that deserve to be repeated in the context of this forum and in the context of what I am going to say. 1. Hyunbin and Kyo did date and based on publicly available information available, they were each other's longest love interest. With others, they were short and for Hyunbin, it did not last beyond a few months. And the rest were all rumours, all of which were denied. Re rumours, I will just put it down to the fact that both are great actors who are able to work up great chemistry with their co-leads. And you can't deny the fact that both are simply too good looking not to be shipped by their fans or fans of the other co-lead for their bias or generally, by romantics. Who wouldn't love a good romance story with the male and female protagonists who are gorgeous to boot? So, the starting point of the BinKyo ship is that this couple isn't just an imaginary couple. They were a real couple at one point in time and by all accounts, they were a loving couple when they were together. This couple also parted in loving terms with the media reporting it as, "They still love each other but because of their inability to withstand societal and external pressures, they have decided to part ways." 2. The fact is that most of the regulars here (and squirrel army) are Kyo-only fans or Hyunbin-only fans who gathered here after rumours of BinKyo reconciliation rumours broke out. It was not shipping them as a couple that brought us here. It was the rumours that brought most of us here to share our joy and our support for this beautiful couple in our common hopes that the rumours will turn out to be real. When we traced back to hunt down the possible source of origin of the rumours, we found PSM's IG post of a WW OST by Soya and with a loaded caption - a long and tiring love. Kyo was tagged and Kyo responded to that post. After she deleted the post, her IGS had a pair of lovebirds and we read that as a hint of something. Most of us did not even start our journey from the onset of rumours on Weibo but much later. As fans of Kyo and Hyunbin, why would we even dream of shipping two people who were each other's ex? Why would we fans of our bias revisit their past (mind you, this is their real past) and ship him/her with someone whom he/she has broken up with? True fans will never do that. 3. I need also to highlight that in our "shipping" journey up to their official statements after the 2nd deluge, we put together what we perceived to be hints dropped by our protagonists themselves and their squad. Our main motivation is to test and see how true the rumours are and to do a reality test on the prospect of our once real ship sailing for real once again. We did not use drama BTS, drama promotion, drama promotion interviews, their interactions in public events (for Binkyo this was non-existent other than WW-related events). When looking at the hints, we were careful to test their veracity. We checked timelines, threw out hints that are too far-fetched or tenuous. It was through this process that kept our Binkyo hopes alive. Yes, perhaps in our zealousness, we might have been too imaginative or might have read to much into things. The crumbs we threw out for the rabbit hole don't count hehe. So yes, we did try our best not to force things or create our own fiction. Against these facts, it was of course not surprising that when the official statements came, most of us naturally stopped our quest as we respect their privacy and their official position. We do so because we all genuinely love them individually. So it came as a big surprise to me to find that after the denials to the 2nd deluge of rumours came, instead of feeling more secure of their situation and going to town about it, others became even more threatened. The most unpleasant thing is to see them going to Hyunbin's agency to bash Kyo and to make all kinds of allegations against her. The statements were meant to delink Bin and Kyo, why go to Bin's place to bash Kyo? Why take things outside of shipping forums and link them again in their official sites? Do you not have any respect for Hyunbin's statement? What is the motivation? I can't fathom. And such behaviours is not only disturbing Bin's peace, it is also destroying his reputation among the people in his agency. It is something I cannot comprehend at all, to say the least. Poor Binnie is busy filming his movie in Jordan and he is being hounded by hate speech against Kyo in his own backyard. How pitiful! Since there have been allegations against Kyo for buying hot searches on Weibo and since I also know a little about how hot searches on Weibo work, let me say that the allegation is ridiculous to say the least. Hot searches only work on scandalous or gossip materials because it is human instincts to crave for gossip and only gossip materials will gain a lot of traffic which makes for good marketing platforms. Against this background, you can imagine that hot searches on scandalous materials are never bought by the protagonists themselves because why would a normal person buy hot search on scandalous materials on himself/herself? So yes, you can buy hot searches but they are usually bought by rival camps, or people out to harm the protagonists or generally by marketeers hoping to earn a quick buck on high traffic for gossip materials. The other type of "hot searches" is more appropriately termed as noise marketing - this type is used to promote an awareness for an upcoming project etc - and this type would use harmless suggestion type of materials that would arouse people's interests or curiosity in a bid to promote an awareness related to the project. Certainly, the Binkyo materials on Weibo are not this type of pure suggestive type of marketing materials. They are materials intentionally distorted from bits of unconnected facts to make into juicy gossip materials. So yes, why would Kyo buy hot searches on BinKyo gossip?(unless both are going to be in a project together, which I am sure all of us here are super game for hahaha!!!). But most importantly, people who think that she needs to buy hot searches to link her name to Hyunbin - please know this fact. Kyo is more famous than Hyunbin in China. She is the Hallyu Star that President Moon brings along when he attends Hallyu or showbiz functions or events in China or with Chinese counterparts. Kyo's name is the very reason why DOTS is a joint China-Korean high budget pre-produced production. Because it is Kyo, all her news always come up in hot searches. This is the case not only in China but also SK. Just look at how their Binkyo reconciliation rumours trended in SK! It is because of their combined power. So, was the trending searches in SK also bought? Just because her name (and often, Binnie's too) often trends (even for simply liking an IG post etc) doesn't mean anything other than JUST THIS - HER NAME TRENDS. That fact that BinKyo reconciliation rumours became hot search in China, SK and other places speaks for itself. Therefore, before you make nonsensical allegations, please check your facts. His fans from his fandom and all his shipper fandoms - please stop bashing Kyo. Please stop bringing disturbance to poor Binnie who is right now working hard in Jordan for his movie. Both of them do not deserve to be subjected to such mistreatment by his fandom. Please devote your time and energy to love your bias instead of bashing other celebrities and their fans. Bashing them won't change the present reality. Bashing them will also not aid in the future of your ship. So one last thing, PEACE and VAMOOSE!
  2. As I have said before, I came here only because of the reconciliation rumors that sprang out of nowhere and that met with radio silence. I have also said that if there is any statement contradicting the rumors, I will stop. So yes, it’s time for closure. I am happy that the reconciliation rumors gave me a chance to learn more about Kyo. I now have a greater appreciation of her strengths and I wish all the best for her. More importantly I have had a chance to interact with a group of Kyo’s and Binnie’s fans who are passionate, witty people with a great sense of humor. Reading the posts here has given me so much fun and enjoyment. So yes, no regrets. It was good that they ignored the rumors at first even though they were groundless coz had they denied earlier I wouldn’t have had the chance to meet some of the most fun and knowledgeable fans in squirrel army. Will continue to support Kyo and ofc my long time stan Binnie. Till we chat here again if the opportunity arises in the future, God bless.
  3. Yes the dog in Kyo’s post looked old (and sad - I was heartbroken when I saw the dog). By the way, in case some are not aware, Binnie is a dog lover. Regarding hands, Binnie once said in a 2009 interview that he regards a woman’s hands as the most important (when he was asked about the attributes he looks for in a woman.) I think this could also be because his mother is a sculptor. Since knowing more about Kyo, I can really see why they connect. Kyo is artistic - loves art, doing things with her hands etc, and he is artistic too, though he wouldn’t admit it but he did calligraphy from young and has accompanied his mom to exhibitions etc..
  4. Since people associate me as a Hyunbin-only fan, and since there have been questions/allegations about my allegiance, after some consideration, I think it’s best that I stand up to scrutiny and give some explanation as to why I have appeared here. First let me get this out of the way. I am and I remain a Hyunbin-only fan. As a Hyunbin-only fan, I support him in all of his projects and though he does not want his fans to focus on his personal life and choices, it does not mean that I won’t bother about them. But it is true that I should not speculate and should not impose my personal views about his private life and choices. Therefore I don’t question. But where I see signs then I will show my support until the official position goes the opposite way. When that happens, I will definitely not continue in this direction and will respect his choices and official position. So as for why I am here, it is because he has said things about Kyo that shows me she has a different place in his life, albeit they were said in the past but the fact is that he has not said anything else to replace what he has said or change his position about her. I am a fan who has read almost all of his interviews that I can get hold of and watched anything that features him that is available out there. And the conclusion I can make up to this point in time is that he has not said so many things about any other lady in his life as he has said about Kyo. For an introverted man of few words, this speaks volumes. So, let’s see what he has said about Kyo. Won’t do a comparison with what he has said about others coz this is not a competition. I will just let the facts speak for itself. Re Kyo and her influence on his acting I have learned a lot from her. For example, I have learned to focus on showing through my eyes. I put that into practice in FoL and showed my emotions through my eyes without words (Me: So his gaze and eye acting which he has received much praise for - he had at one point attributed it to Kyo). Re Kyo as his confidante i feel very comfortable to share about things with her. I have difficulty opening up to others but with her, I can share freely about anything such as my inner thoughts. Re Kyo as a friend She makes me laugh a lot. She is a happy person. Re his attraction to her as a woman She is chic and cute. She has a sophisticated sense of dressing. She is like a baby. Everything about her is beautiful (this one (if I remember correctly) was said when he was asked at the Aritaum/Laneige CF and he sang the CF song “Beautiful” together with two others. Though it is CF related, he used it to show his appreciation for her inner beauty from his perspective.) Re Kyo as a person She is sensible and has a good sense. I have not seen/read about him talk like this about any other after the BinKyo 1.0 period. Though I became a fan only from SeGa days, I have dugged up every interview/everything I can find about him. His Chinese fans have a very comprehensive record (in those days it was Tieba and the resources are still kept by his long time fans from MNIKSS days and when he gained many many new fans after MotA they were all dredged up and shared with his new fans - though the BinKyo stuffs were no longer there because of their status then. So his new fans have not seen that much info from that period. Since it is past, why am I here? I am here because despite the following, he has not released any official statement to correct the impression I am getting from certain signs: 1. Sudden avalance of reconciliation rumors in China and all over Asia - though most if not all of the gossip articles are no longer available. 2. Radio silence about the rumors. Would have been less stark if not for the fact that this radio silence is contrasted with active denials on another front. 3. After avalanche I think back to these connections: a. I saw his interactions with Ellen Park at Belma’s wedding on 7 July last year. @fragola also shed some insightful perspective about the significance of his actions and that further reinforced the impression of how important Kyo is to him, even if it is as a friend. Then again, as it was just shared - is it possible for two lovers to become just platonic friends? b. Kyo’s CFs being featured in his latest drama along the likes of his BFF JDG’s CFs etc - again, is it just a friend supporting an old time friend? Perhaps. 5. I have always wondered if theirs was just a breakup in 2011 March and no more or there was more than meets the eye because of the various coincidences some of which are uncanny if they were just coincidences. The most important coincidence is his Reply MV (the details including timing of filming and how it is reflected on VAST’s sns platforms make this coincidence even more uncanny). 6. And all of these pieces that I have collected due to my nosiness since the avalanche: a. Park Solmi’s OST IG post and Kyo’s reaction to it. Btw PSM’s husband Han Jae Suk (hope I rem his name right) is Binnie’s friend. b. The appearance of a dog in Kyo’s life that she looks after herself c. Kyo’s liking of a IG posts about squirrels d. Baccarat gift for Belma (hhhh.. I can’t divulge the connecting dots for this one) e. Quite a few other coincidences that are shared in the club, including Kyo’s activities on IG etc. So yes, all of these led me to show my support here but this doesn’t mean I have turned into a BinKyo shipper. I have shared with club members that I don’t consider this as shipping as shipping is about an imaginary couple but ours was once a real couple and perhaps one that lasted longer than what it was made out to be. If this fiction in my head is true, then what has happened is that they both took a detour for whatever reason and now if the rumors that they are back together is true, then this is something that is really precious and should be protected. Both were not known to be in any other public relationship since their breakup except for that detour. And the support is all the more needed because that detour might have changed the public perception somewhat and finding ready support from the public isn’t going to be that easy. So yes, that’s why I am here to show support. And I am doing this solely because I am and still remain a Hyunbin-only fan. I will show my love and support to whoever he loves. But if the perception of BinKyo 2.0 is not correct, I will definitely stop, but because I have learned more about Kyo in the process, she will remain dear to me. Haha..sorry for my long-windedness. I toggle between being long winded and being nonsensical haha.. Cheers
  5. Binnie’s new CF. He has aged, now moving into health products They both have the same fashion sense when it comes to bracelets And it’s not Kyo. Don’t blame her. Only she will amuse him
  6. Re the question about the dog. The dog in Kyo’s IG in Dec appears to be a Basset Hound (perhaps not pure breed). The puppy that Binnie bought for her in that pic has the same brown fur as the dog in Kyo’s IG in Dec (but coz I can’t see the front, it’s hard to confirm if it’s the same dog.
  7. Since I have already put out the teaser, here’s find Wally. Courtesy of Chinese detectives. Her : I see 2011, 2015 Him : I see 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2017. Connect the wristband/bracelet dots and you may get a different picture from what is out there. .
  8. Hating people is like burning down your own house to get rid of a rat. Henry Emerson Fosdick While thinking about what it is that motivates uninvolved outsiders to have so much hate against a celebrity just because the possibility of her for him goes against their own fantasy, this suddenly occurred to me. If it is completely baseless to be linked to an ex who is no better than your next door neighbor Mr Kim, and you are being bashed in your friends’ IG and on SNS, why would you not speak up against it? If it were me, I would definitely find an excuse (plant a reporter to query me about it) to issue a statement and get rid of the nuisance of being bashed. So yes, the radio silence from her seems to ring louder than the radio silence from him. @arabella haha..Chingu, is that your new account? haha..it’s not just a web of connections - past and present. No, bodyguards are not included as connections coz if so, then IU would be linked to him and LMH would be linked to her Okay, yes, it’s not just a web of friendships that link them. More importantly, they are linked by tacky bracelets and wristbands.
  9. Temporarily un-lurk to post my translation of excerpts of his interview article featured in the Japanese magazine "Weekly Asahi" that was published in the issue released on 15th of July. My translation is from the Chinese translation by 菜鸟木子妈. I am too lazy to translate the whole article (it has repetitive stuffs about what he has said about the fear of losing popularity etc - so I don’t think it is necessary for me to repeat those. I will just give you the gist of one important part - he is not affected by his popularity at all. Neither is he afraid of losing it. He said he returns to himself immediately after his work. While he has learned to savour the popularity (he put his ability to enjoy it down to age and maturity), he remains very much himself. As with all of his interviews, they are always focused on his projects and the characters of his projects. Interestingly, although the interview arose out of the Hyunbin-madness syndrome in Japan after Crash Landing on You, Hyunbin himself did not mention that drama or his character in that drama at all. The questions and his response were focused on his dramas My Name is Kim Sam Soon (MNIKSS) and Secret Garden and the similarities he has with the characters in there. The only mention of his latest drama is by the reporter Hayasirumi herself/himself (at the end of the interview and report of interview) wherein reporter remarked that the female character in CLOY is like the strong female predecessors of MNIKSS and SeGa. Reporter: I am afraid that until now, when he is asked the same question, he will always have the same answer. Although he is not as arrogant as the rich second generation chaebol that he plays in My Name Is Kim Sam Soon (MNIKSS), they also have something in common. Hyunbin: I think the way we are calm and composed when handling things is similar. I do the same, clearly deciding what it is, so what I say it is, it is. I will not be ambiguous." Reporter: There is often a quiet air about him. He doesn’t usually talk much. Hyunbin: When I am interacting with people at work, I prefer to listen than talk. When I am with friends, it seems that I am also a listener." (Me: At his 2015 HIS*TORY fan meeting in Seoul, his staff put up a skit about how frustrated they are with his monosyllabic answers to their questions haha) Reporter: The heroine of "MNIKSS" is 30 years old, a cake chef with no money and low education. This is a breakthrough heroine image never seen in a Korean TV series 15 years ago. And the fact that a second generation rich chaebol is attracted by such a character is one of the highlights of the TV series, and Hyunbin himself has also expressed his love for Samsoon. Hyunbin: (Samsoon) is passionate about work, and goes all out in love and work." Reporter: However, the setting of the chaebol being emotionally shaken and torn between Samsoon and his former lover - that part seems to be somewhat ethically incompatible. Hyunbin: As for me, I will only choose the one I love. Reporter: At that time, in the very popular "Secret Garden" in South Korea, he played the super willful second generation chaebol again. Although people initially worried about the overlap between his character in there with his character in MNIKSS, Hyunbin’s acting was again highly praised as he shaped and displayed a completely different character. Not only is his acting excellent, the director also praised him for his meticulous and hard work in portraying the role. Although his character in there is considered to be a character that is not very similar to himself, he himself says that they have something in common. Hyunbin: I think I'm quite willful or stubborn (like Kim Joo Won). For example, if I want to do something, I must realize it. When it comes to work, I will also always go by my first choice according to my mood. Even if the people around me persuade me and say, “Isn’t it bad to do this?", I won’t listen. From this point of view, I am quite individualistic and willful/stubborn. In addition, if there is something I want, I must get it, come what may. In this way, I am quite similar to my character in Secret Garden.” Reporter: The same is true for "My name is Kim Sam Soon" - in the works selected by Hyunbin, most of the heroines are women with equal standing as the male character and they all have a strong personality. Hyunbin: “They are full of enthusiasm for work and love, and they are very charming people, but I am attracted by their optimistic attitude to overcome adversity. I like women who are happy in work and love." Reporter: He has appeared in various roles so far, but when asked which role is closest to himself (his real personality), he couldn't answer. Hyunbin: It's difficult to answer this question. No character is completely different from myself. My behavior, my inner traits, these things will, more or less, be projected onto the characters that I play." Reporter: He always seems calm and composed, but he said he is not like that. Hyunbin: “I have a pre-challenge panic disorder. The worst thing for me is to go for an audition. It's already very hard when I stand at the starting line of the 100-meter run (laughs)." (Me: Reading this part in Chinese gives me the impression that he is referring to him having a panic attack when he faces a clear challenge ahead.) PS: The “Reporter” part is basically the reporter’s writing in prose, and not reported in a question format. The “Hyunbin” part is his response reported in first person. The comments in brackets with Me are my personal comments. The link for magazine cover is here. https://dot.asahi.com/print_image/index.html?photo=2020071500076_1
  10. He has no SNS account on IG, FB, or Twitter. There’s only his agency’s VAST’s accounts on IG and Twitter. The only sns account maintained in his personal name is his weibo account.
  11. Seeing some stuffs has made me come out of the woodwork. Let me show you what I want to say by a round of conversations. Shipper: (goes to K's/K's friend's/Vast's SNS to bash K) Me: Why are you doing that? Shipper: Because of the reconciliation rumors. Me: What about the reconciliation rumours? Shipper: Because the rumours aren't true. They can't be true. Me: Oh they aren't true? Then why do you need to do what you do? K is not involved. The rumours aren't true anyway. So, why bash her? Why waste your precious time? For all you know, B might be merrily having a great time with xxx whom some of you say he is in an open relationship with that the whole of Korea knows about. Shipper: Because the rumours just might be true. Me: So what if it is true? Shipper: No, I will only let B have xxx. Me: Are you B's mom, aunt, sister? Even if you are, does B have to listen to you, if he does not want to? How are you so sure that xxx wants to have B? If you like a boy, can you force him to like you? But this is worse. You are forcing someone to like a specific someone else?! Go write your romance novel where you can have total control over how you want to pair up your characters in romance. By the way, Soompi Shippers Paradise is described as a place for imaginary couples. So, we can ship all we want about our imaginary couples in our imaginary land. But please keep it in your imaginary land. Don't take it out into the real world to hurt real people who have their real relationships with real people that you don't know anything about. This applies to all of us.
  12. Ah I see I see! Thank you so much for correcting me. I am amazed by all your detective skills! My misinfo was based on a google search for the pic and the google search turned up that result. My apologies! (Oh since I am online here again, I want to share one piece of info re the grocery sightings in LA. Writer Park Ji Eun lives in the US. Casting news came out in early March, less than two months later. Therefore, it is most likely that he was there to discuss drama with Writer and again VAST's statement that there were other people with them is not untrue.)
  13. This is purely for fun! A Tale of Two Ships Ship 1 Fans: Wow..this ship is beautiful. We want to board and sail in it! Captain: This ship will not set sail. Fans: Still, let us board and let us sail. Captain: Alright, just board and look at how magnificently built it is, but I am telling you, ship will not set sail. Fans (including myself): (went on board the ship). Wow..this ship is indeed beautiful! Please set sail! Please set sail! (Continue pestering) Captain: (Takes down one mast). I disembarked from ship. Fans: Please set sail, please set sail! (Continue pestering) Captain: (Takes down the other mast). See, the ship can't sail, even if you want it to. Fans: No, it can! It can! By the power of us, it can! Captain: (Sends the ship for dry docking). Fans: Aaww..the ship is so beautiful...It can and will sail, by the power of fans, we say it can and it will! Ship 2 Gossip Media: News today. Fans and netizens have spotted the ship out in the deep ocean. Fans: What??! Really? Who are these "fans" and "netizens"? How is it that we are not aware of the existence of the ship? Gossip Media: (Okay, let's send these fans some evidence that the ship is out in the deep ocean. )(Sends out (i) pic of co-Captain wearing an unidentified necklace; (ii) pic of the scenery of Captain at sail) Fans: These evidence aren't persuasive that ship exists and ship has sailed. Let's look for more solid evidence. (Search for possible sightings of ship). (Found evidence of Chief Mate PSM blowing the horn to signal that the ship was setting sail. At that time, there were unidentifiable persons on board which Gossip Media have termed as "fans and netizens". Fans: It might be true that ship exists and has set sail. Please, we want to board and sail with ship! Pretty please? Captain: Ship is out in the deep blue. You can't board. Fans: Then, at the very least, please show us if and how the ship is sailing! Pretty please! Captain: (Gives a pic of young Captain at the time when his previous ship was sailing to legit media). There! Are you happy to know that the ship might really exist and might really be sailing on its own? Hope you guys don't mind my nonsense hahahha With this, let me introduce myself. First off, I am a (long-time) Hyunbin-only fan from SeGa days. I was not a SeGa shipper during SeGa days as I knew he was with Kyo and I didn't see it right to disrespect that. I am still not a shipper and if I do occasionally entertain the thought of shipping any lady with him, it is usually short-lived and never serious. For example, I did entertain the thought of drama pairing since he is single and there were dating rumours whirling around but when a firm denial came mid drama, I stopped entertaining any shipping thoughts. With that intro out of the way, let me share with you my "BinKyo" journey up to this point. As a SeGa Hyunbin fan, I naturally did not have much knowledge about them, other than the bits and pieces of info from his past interviews. From what I read, I gathered he was much in love with her. These are some of the things he has said: (i) Everything about her is beautiful. (ii) We can talk to each other about all sorts of things. I feel that I can share about things freely with her. (iii) "Yes, she is my ideal" (At press conference of Come Rain, Come Shine less than 2 months from his military enlistment) (iv) "Yes, I have a girlfriend" (At Taxi just before he enlisted in the army) (v) When asked which of the three - Love, Career, Honour he would choose as his priority, he said Love (He said people work in order to provide for and protect their love; (can't remember how he answered about love vs honour haha)). (vi) He talked about getting married at age 34; the kind of father he wants to be (let the son smoke in front of him if he wants to smoke; be a friend to his son without the generational gap type of father; wear matching clothes with his son); he dreams of a wife whom he can see within sight when he is at home, etc, etc (various interviews including one Ceci Interview in 2009). Mind you, he has never talked about marriage or about love after that period. In his Esquire interview in 2019, because the interviewer had interviewed him in 2009 and asked him what he thought the Hyunbin 10 years down the road would be like and he said he imagined that 38 year old Hyunbin would be married and would be a more solid actor, he was asked at the Esquire interview, so, how accurate were you about the present you 10 years ago. He laughed. "I was only half correct. Because I am still unmarried." Shortly into my fangirling journey, they broke up and I was heartbroken for him. The memory of him wiping away his tears after bowing to fans is still vivid in my memory (when the news broke the next day, I linked two and two together and saw the tears as his "hurt" and "pain"). Because of that, I was put off WW. So I back-watched all of his dramas except WW. To be honest, I only started watching WW after the end of MotA. MotA got me back into crazy fangirling mode and so, while waiting for his latest drama, I watched WW and boy, I became hooked! I rewatched it twice more and would still occasionally watch parts of the drama here and there. As I had watched WW before the latest drama, I could see the difference very very clearly. Don't even talk about the BTS/NGs. Now, why am I here to put up this post? Let me say I really don't know what is going on. What I do know is what he has said in the past. What I can speculate is that they are not on non-talking terms (haha..what a roundabout way of saying things. I just want to be careful with my words.). Why do I say that? 1. I see a Hyunbin who was comfortable and very familiar with her personal manager last July. 2. I see that her endorsements graced the sponsorship of his latest drama, together with the likes of the main casts' and his BFF JDG's (JDG's Crown Goose etc). This shows me that there is support from her for his drama. But, of course, one can argue that this has nothing to do with her. The brand owners saw a good potential in the drama to promote their brands and decided based on that. While this is certainly logical, I do find the coincidence a bit questionable. These two facts are bolstered with other "coincidences" such as Chief Mate PSM's OST IG post with cryptic caption and the latest pic sent by uri Captain to Japan Weekly. I also ask myself, is it possible for past lovers to become just "platonic" friends (am assuming they are at least on talking terms)? I don't know enough about celebs and people in the entertainment industry, but my logic tells me that this is illogical (pardon the oxymoron haha). Alas, the most blatant piece would be the radio silence. The 4th and 5th denials for drama pairing originated from outside of SK too. The 4th denial was for the wedding after end of drama rumor - it was reported in the reports I read on never that it came from outside of SK (my own gut feeling tells me it came from the Philippines) and the reporters asked VAST to verify the rumours. VAST issued a straight up denial with a threat to institute legal action against the spread of malicious rumours. The 5th denial is for the ridiculous "holding of hands under the table" rumor - this rumor isn't even anything serious. I would imagine a simple denial saying no, they were not holding hands and they are professional artistes bla bra will do. But no, it was a resounding denial - "Although it is understandable that many people would like them together because of the drama, the fact is they are not dating and have never dated in the past." There was one report that even reported, "A close aide of Hyunbin told the reporter that Hyunbin is flustered over being hounded by this dating rumor". At that time, there were comments from Kentz that went like this, "he must have a gf in rl for him to issue such a strong statement like that" hahaha (it is only now that I wonder about the wisdom of such comments haha). So yes, the upshot is that I am seeing radio silence vs clear denial statements. I am puzzled why no nosy reporter went to VAST to ask about ? rumor. Is it because the gossip media couched it as "fans and netizens believe they are back together."? This thing about speculations from netizens, I monitor his news on Weibo and I did not see any speculations about them lols! If there were any speculations, they were all about the drama couple lols! Taiwan media and other Chinese gossip media were endless about the drama couple. This thing came as a thunderbolt out of the blue on 19 May (if I remember correctly, this is the date of the avalanche on Weibo haha). And most of these gossip posts by Chinese bloggers, had this ending question, between the ex and the dating scandal gf, ? do you prefer for Hyunbin? When I first read these, I dismissed the rumours as nonsensical and was half wondering if the "rumours" arose out of some media play tactics by either camps etc. Then came Baeksang. Baeksang piqued my curiosity and I started lurking here after that. Back to my position. I don't know what the real score is. But if this is real, I want to voice my support over here. As a Hyunbin fan and as a hopeless romantic, I will unconditionally support this. The sighting pics of a lonely and sad-looking Hyunbin at camp for his military training on that certain day in 2017 still brings tears to my eyes every time I see them. And the Reply MV featuring him that was released shortly after that certain day in 2017 - I imagine it might have something to do with that certain day and it makes me feel so sad for him. (Caveat : This is only my own imagination coz I have always imagined that Kim Dong Ryul wrote the song for him. MV was published in January 2018.) The translated lyrics : Sorry for being too late You know that I'm slow to understand reading several times over Still I can't believe what I just read The questions that I don't know their answers 'I should make her smile tomorrow.' I thought. Looking back, that time You fell over yourself I didn't know that and acted so immature You must've thought I am so silly "We'll get something nice to eat Or maybe watch a movie tomorrow." I said that time. If only I could go back in time, I would've held you so tight Though there are so many words I want to say For just a moment If only I could go back in time, Would I be better than before? I want to tell you something that sounds right But I just didn't think it was a good time Sorry for taking so long. It won't change anything Even if I send it to you You probably don't remember me anymore Maybe you won't read it at all I have kept silent for far too long If only I could go back in time, I would not have missed every chance Actually I still don't know the answers But I won't say sorry Because I thought, if I did, everything might be over I thought there was nothing left for me to do I thought maybe I would find the answers tomorrow I defer and defer and defer I love you It might be not enough and it might be no good for now These are my last words that want you to know Love you, I do https://lyricstranslate.com And the climax - I love you....that always brings tears to my eyes. It is just too sad. Okay, this concludes my longwinded post which is intended just to say I WILL UNCONDITIONALLY SUPPORT (IF THIS IS TRUE)!!! (PS: Re his consistent behaviour in the past - he has no qualms admitting his official position. The dating news with KSR was released on 15 December 2016, one day before his press conference for Confidential Assignment on 16 December 2016. So yes, as his fan, I will always fall back on the Hyunbin he has shown me all these years.) (Anor PS: Re his old Weibo profile pic which one of you said was also given to a publication in the Philippines, that was one of a series of pics taken for his International BNT World January 2019 photoshoot. Not that far back. I googled and saw that BNT Intl is based in the UK. - so it seems that he might have gone there after that grocery sighting in LA and if so, then VAST's statement that he was overseas for official business isn't untrue.) I will go back to lurking. I want to thank all of you here for all the crumbs! I have had so much fun reading your posts.
  14. My dear Chingu-deul, since I have been tagged, I feel compelled to come in here to state my position on this matter. My apologies in advance if what I am going to say may hurt your feelings. Those of you who have interacted with me over here when I was participating in the discussion would know that I have left this thread midway through CLOY’s airing. This was after Hyunbin’s agency issued a denial statement and even a warning of legal action against rumor mongering midway through the drama’s airing. In my last post here, I did state this clearly. Thereafter, after CLOY ended and after the wrap up party (one or two days after if I remember correctly), because of an edited BTS photo being circulated, another round of rumors was generated. This time, his agency issued another statement with a categorical denial. A close aide of his also stated this to reporters: “Since morning he’s been hounded by dating rumors. He’s frustrated that these rumors keep popping up. It is understandable that many people want them to date after seeing their great chemistry in the drama, but the fact is that they are not in a romantic relationship. They were never in a romantic relationship in the past and neither are they in the present.” As a fan of Hyun Bin, I care about his feelings. I want to take what he has stated in his response about this matter at face value and trust and believe in what he has said. I have chosen not to post about my position or my translation of these denial news (especially over here) because of my regard for your feelings. A number of you have also DMed me and to those whom I have not responded to, this post explains why I don’t want to discuss this matter any further. If you have read all my previous posts, you would also know that I was very supportive of Binjin shipping. And I am not against Binjin shipping at all. However as I am only a Hyunbin fan, I care about what he has stated as his official position and I respect his position and privacy. I also don’t want to engage in speculations. As such, I no longer want to be involved in Binjin shipping. Because of that, I request that you don’t circulate my tweets about Hyunbin in here. I do not want anything I do to contribute to further speculations and the possibility of more rumors; all resulting in more trouble for Hyunbin. In any event, the tweet thread of my translation of his interview article that was shared here by @cloyfan is, as far as I am concerned, not relevant to Binjin at all. If you are interested to find out more about Hyunbin, you may follow my Twitter account Please note that that is not a fan account and I use it to tweet about other stuffs too. In fact, my fangirling of Hyunbin has been kept strictly to interactions with his Chinese fans (that was where I started anyway) and though I have had my Twitter account for more than 4 years alr, I have only started to use it to tweet about him recently. For your info, as a matter of culture, Chinese fans of actors are strongly against shipping of drama couples and I have had first hand negative experiences from my Binjin supporting Thank you for reading! And thank you in advance for respecting my wishes. And please DO NOT LIKE/RESPOND to or QUOTE my past posts anymore haha - coz the notifications keep reminding me of my regretful actions in the past. I wish you all more happiness in your Binjin shipping (please do so respectfully). Thank you and I’ll see some of you in other Soompi threads again sometime! Goodbye!
  15. https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/076/0003544817 (21 Mar 2020) On Sports Chosun’s 30th anniversary, the opinions of practitioners & experts were collected through questionnaires to select "capable artistes in various fields such as film, TV drama, radio, variety & music". In terms of film, drama and entertainment, 47 companies related to movies and 41 companies related to dramas and entertainment programs were selected to vote for three artistes each. In the drama category, HyunBin is at no.3 with 7 votes together with Jeon Ji Hyeon and Gong Hyo Jin. Kim Soo Hyun is at no.1 and Park Seo Jun is at no.2. “Hyun Bin, who has been in his 17th year, is expected to continue to lead in the K-drama scene for a long time to come. Hyun Bin, who evidently reinstated his value with Crash Landing on You, is still considered a talent with perfect looks and acting skills. On Hyun Bin, experts explained his strengths as his ability to digest the character so perfectly that the actor himself appears to be the character in the drama and he has a good look that fits any role well."
  16. Naver is like Korea’s Google, Wikipedia, YouTube combined (? - my best description haha). If you are referring to his letter to fans, those were posted on VAST. As for whether the reporter was the one who first revealed that Hyun Bin has donated, I don’t know because there are many reports about his donation. The Korean language is very contextual- for example, in “I love you”, there is only saranghae which is literally just, “love”; there is no “I” and “You” You will only understand it as “I love you” from A to B in the context of reading or hearing the “saranghae”. In the article that I translated, based on my understanding, the writer was at times referring to a collective “we” and at other points, the writer was vocalizing his own views and indignation about the whole thing. That’s why I translated as “we” and “I” interchangeably. As for the statement about the donation, from the reports I have read, it is not clear if the information came from Korean Community Chest (the recipient of the donation) or VAST. But what is clear is that Hyun Bin’s donation wasn’t an afterthought or a reaction to criticisms because he in fact made his donation shortly after writing his comforting letters and that was even before the wave of news of donations from various celebrities. There’s no need to worry too much for Hyun Bin haha..he is a person with clear principles, focus and thinking and in all my years of following his development and news, he has always been a person who doesn’t get affected by other people’s opinions or criticisms if he doesn’t think they are valid. By the way, there’s a report today that states that the production team of “Bargaining” has decided to change direction and start shooting in Korea, since they are unable to stick to their original plan of shooting in Jordan for now.
  17. I would like to provide my translation of a report that concerns Hyun Bin. But before I do that, I’d like to give you some background so that you understand what has been happening. As you would already have known, many Korean celebrities have donated and or helped out (by cutting/lowering rent etc) towards the Covid-19 cause. For Hyun Bin, on 21 Feb 2020, he wrote letters in Korean, Chinese and English to his fans and others about the Covid-19 situation, wishing that this will pass and sending his wishes that everyone will be healthy and those affected will recover soon. Unknown to all, including even his agency, he had also quietly donated 200m won to help out in the country’s Covid-19 struggles. Soon after, news of various celebrities having donated came out. Many Knetz started tallying who has donated and how much was donated by who and who. In the midst, many celebrities were bashed - for example Lee Si Eon got bashed for donating too little. Hyun Bin got it worst with comments like, “being such a big shot celeb, he only donated a letter”; or “so and so is at least better than Hyun Bin who donated only words” etc His fans and I were pained to see this. We know that he must have donated but was keeping silent about it because he has said before that he does not want to have such things publicized. Then news of his donation of 200m won came and it was reported that he had donated without even his agency knowing about it. Then this report came out today. https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/108/0002846979 My translation. ———————————————————————— I believe that it is a virtue to promote good deeds. This is especially so for people with social influence because the more influential they are, the greater is their influence for more good deeds to be done. So I believe that the more publicity we give to the good deeds of well-known artistes, the better the effect/influence we get. Even so, some entertainers believe that it is right to do good things secretly. There are also artistes who believe that it is a virtue not to let the left hand know what the right hand has done. Some artistes have expressed their unwillingness to show off donations. Some artistes also think that doing good deeds with money is a burden on the people who sweat at the scene. This is how different people think, and we can only respect it. Hyun Bin donated 200 million won in order to overcome the Corona 19 (Note 1) disaster. We were determined to make public what he wants to keep secret. There should be no significant difference in helping and it is regrettable that help is being differentiated. Many people have come forward with different types of help; they shared about it, and donated. This is definitely something to be praised about, but this should definitely not be used to put blame on those whom we have no such information of (me - meaning, no information on whether they had donated or not). People who blame and ridicule with comments like, "why don't you celebrity donate money" are just people who vent their hatred. The reason we didn’t respect Hyun Bin’s wishes and announced the donation is because we want to banish hatred. This is not to make Hyun Bin on the list of high-end donating artistes about "Corona 19". On the 21st of last month (February), through the official social platform of his company, he expressed his concern about the spread of "Corona 19" and left a letter wishing for healing. He then continued to be ridiculed with bad comments. Online communities and online communication platforms (SNS) have ridiculed him saying about him "writing only letters without donating", and many people have mocked Hyun Bin as "salt" (Note 2). This is sad. Not only did I feel sorry for Hyun Bin, I was also saddened by the outbreak of this abomination that is like a plague. In order to end this abomination, we insisted on publicizing Hyun Bin’s donation report. At the same time, we also disclosed the fact that he donated for the reconstruction of the disaster area during the mountain fire disaster in Gangwon-do last year and the fact that he has obtained the status of high-value donor as a member in Honor Society (me: only people who have donated consistently and substantially over a period of time can be a member.) Because of "Corona 19", many people are going through difficult times. Although many people are accumulating good deeds during this difficult time, many people also sit and vent their hatred. Whenever news of an artiste’s donation spreads, many people make a list of artistes who have not donated. With such a list in place, the act of venting hate seems to be done on the pretext of wanting to pursue justice. On the 3rd of this month, a so-called "Shincheonji Artiste List" (Note 3) trail message was widely distributed on SNS. The artistes whose names were mentioned received anger from the public. Even with a denial explanation, some even maliciously commented, “It is a a fact that Shincheonji did sneak into their existing church, how could it not be." So, such hatred was vented. Beginning on the 5th, there will be no more comments on performing arts news on the Naver portal. This is a measure taken after the previous measure of deleting replies. Perhaps, regarding "Corona 19", the post that hated the artiste will be the last malicious post reported by Naver Entertainment. The obsession with justice sometimes gives false legitimacy to people who are running off course. In this way, they are getting farther and farther away from the justice they want. Perhaps some venting abominations started out with a sense of justice, but they still deviated from it. Whenever a plague prevails, aversion will follow. Maybe anger and hatred are the most powerful forces that make people hot-blooded. Because of this, some people still vent their anger and disgust with their own ideas today. There is no need to forgive hatred. Righteous forgiveness and patience are different. Someone must cut off hatred first. So be patient. I believe this is the way to overcome this plague-ridden era. The reason why things turn out in a different way from Hyun Bin's original intention and made his donation to the public is because I believe that this is the method to overcome this era. I hope for understanding, thank you very much. Note 1: Corona 19, a new coronavirus outbreak worldwide that started in late 2019 Note 2: Salt has the effect of relieving evil and avoiding evil spirits in Korean customs. Note 3: “Shincheonji” refers to a group that is widely known as a cult group that is blamed for the Covid-19 outbreak in Daegu, that has now spread to other parts of Korea. It is known to spread its ideology through infiltration into churches. (PS : notes are mine). Reporter Jeon Hyeong Hwa
  18. February Drama Actor Brand Reputation Rankings Announced The Korean Business Research Institute has revealed this month’s brand reputation rankings for drama actors! The rankings were determined through a data analysis of the media coverage, participation, interaction, and community indexes of 50 actors who appeared in dramas that aired between January 27 and February 28. Hyun Bin topped the list for the second consecutive month, scoring a brand reputation index of 11,366,256 for February. High-ranking phrases in the actor’s keyword analysis included “Son Ye Jin,” “Crash Landing on You,” and “Bargaining,” while his highest-ranking related terms included “handsome,” “like,” and “love.” Hyun Bin’s positivity-negativity analysis also revealed a score of 76.50 percent positive reactions. Park Seo Joon and Kim Da Mi, the stars of JTBC’s “Itaewon Class,” came in at second and third in the rankings respectively. Park Seo Joon scored a brand reputation index of 8,741,509 for February, while Kim Da Mi followed close behind with a total index of 8,733,643. Check out this month’s top 30 below! Hyun Bin Park Seo Joon Kim Da Mi Son Ye Jin Kwon Nara Kim Bo Ra Ahn Hyo Seop Seo Ji Hye Kim Jung Hyun Jo Byeong Gyu Lee Sung Kyung Namgoong Min Oh Min Seok Kim Hye Soo Han Suk Kyu Yoo Jae Myung Park Eun Bin So Ju Yeon Joo Ji Hoon Kim Joo Heon Kim Dong Hee 2PM’s Taecyeon Go Soo Lee Yeon Hee Lee Si Eon Shin Dong Wook Seo Hyun Jin Jin Se Yeon Oh Jung Se Lee Sung Min Source (1) Top Left Photo Credit: Xportsnews https://www.soompi.com/article/1385690wpp/february-drama-actor-brand-reputation-rankings-announced
  19. The TV shows actors’ brand evaluation in February 2020 shows that Hyun Bin ranks first for brand reputation power. According to the Korean Enterprise Brand Research Institute, from January 27, 2020 to February 28, 2020, the brand big data of 50 actors was measured by 132,857,415 consumers' brand participation in terms of media volume, communication volume and community communication, based on quantitative measurement and indexed by their brand index algorithm. February saw an increase of 22.22% (from 108,665,572) in consumers’ participation compared to January 2020 and the brand data shows Hyun Bin at No.1 (for both January and February 2020). TV show actor brand evaluation analysis uses the participation index, media index, communication index, and community index to analyze brand data. Brand reputation index is an index that extracts data from brands and analyzes consumer behavior using reputation analysis algorithms, which are divided into participation value, communication value, media value, community value, social value, and the right to re-value. Brand big data analysis can measure the affirmation of the brand, the source and attention of the media, the amount of consumer attention and communication, the community communication of hot topics, the response to the content and popularity. Hyun Bin’s brand participation index comprises 4,293,765 media index 2,732,436 communication index 2,558,880 community index 1,781,175; total: 11,366,256. @sillygal Your post made me go down memory lane haha..good old memories..these memories are forever etched in my fangirl’s journey. To me, Hyun Bin is unparalleled in terms of his handsomeness, his unique combination of gentlemanly mannerisms + manly charisma + adorable boyishness (from his natural shyness/reservedness) and his talented versatile acting prowess. Unlike other K actors, he is the only one that makes me love every single one of his drama characters as if they are real life characters, despite most of them being rather unlovable characters (Ri Jeong Hyeok is about the only perfect character haha). In fact, the more unlovable they are, the more I love them. He has made all of his drama characters so different and so memorable.
  20. https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/109/0004171458 Due to Jordan’s entry ban of South Koreans because of the COVID-19 virus, there’s a possibility that the commencement of shooting for Bargaining, originally scheduled for end March, might be delayed. However, at the moment, the production crew is still confident that this would not unduly disrupt the movie’s schedule.
  21. The word used is “후라이” - pronounced as “hurai”, a word that Pyo Chi Su keeps saying - huraigajimarao - meaning, “don’t tell lies”. It’s a coined word - I consulted my Korean teacher and she said this is a coined term and she does not know the origin of it. In the beginning of the drama, it was also promoted with the theme, “Like a lie, you crash landed into my world” but the word “lie” used is the normal word for “lie” in Korean. As for the meaning of “a man who is like a lie” in the commentary, I think writer is just using the drama’s coined term and theme in a metaphorical way - that this man who can show romantic acting that transcends between the two worlds (fantasy world and real world) is like an “unbelievable existence”. That’s just my own reading of it. And I kinda understand why “lie” is used. Coz the romance portrayed is also too good to be true in real life, isn’t it? Doing translations take time and effort. I do feel the burden to ensure that I try not to mistranslate. And for this commentary I also had to discuss with my Korean teacher and we ended up spending some time researching on that word. Haha.. will probably not be that active here for a while as I will be busy with quite a few dramas that are coming up. Thank you all for your appreciation
  22. Aaww..you don’t have to feel sorry..you didn’t do anything wrong. I am sorry that I made you feel sorry I do agree with you that there’s nothing wrong with the picture even if the rumors were true. I spoke up to explain that his agency has taken a stand on this. It was also reported that Hyun Bin was distressed over these speculations. So my post was done in the hope that we won’t not discuss such things any further over here. That was all. It is not my intention to make you feel sorry. I also took a longer time to apologise to you because I was locked out of Soompi for two days - it kept giving me a “no connection to server” notice. I had to email Soompi support to get back my access. Please do continue to love Hyun Bin and share all of your wonderful gifs and pics. I too like SYJ and have shared about this quite a few times in the shipper thread and drama thread. However I remain only a fan of Hyun Bin- thus, if “shipping” him with her or liking the idea that they are together in real life would cause rumors and further “troubles” for him, then I would stop. But, that is just my personal stand on things. Korean entertainment industry is difficult to understand- they see things quite differently, for example, dating between adults is considered a “scandal”; dating while at work is also considered to be very unprofessional. And a dating couple working together on a project is considered to be having their own romance at the expense of public money. As a non-Korean, I can’t fathom what is so scandalous about a relationship between a single man and woman. But well, this is Korea. As celebs’ lives are “ruled” by their netizens, this may also explain why the celebs do the things they do with many celeb couples resorting to lying about their relationships. But when I look at things as a fan, things become simpler haha. I choose to believe whatever official information that has been given because that’s how I show support and respect as a fan
  23. Director Bong Jun Ho and cast of Parasite were invited to a pre-summit meeting with President Moon and the First Lady at the Blue House. First Lady said she recognized Park Myeong Hun (Seo Dan’s uncle) in Crash Landing on You because of his eyes. Then she apologized for mentioning Crash Landing on You giving the excuse that she watched it because of the Inter-Korean theme. President Moon then interjected, “it’s because of Hyun Bin” Well, apparently she’s known to be quite a fan of Hyun Bin haha..Ex President Park was also an ardent fan if I am not wrong. @stephiora Most of Hyun Bin’s long time fans have remained as fans (I am one of them) without being affected by his real life relationships. (Am not inclined towards shipping coz I am a happily married woman. Don’t see any point in investing in other people’s relationships haha) Fans of Hyun Bin are free to ship him with anyone they fancy including with themselves But please bear in mind that this is a Hyun Bin-only forum, a common forum for all of Hyun Bin’s fans, whether “Hyun Bin-me” fans, “Hyun Bin- only” fans or “Hyun Bin - xxx” fans. However, I think most fans of Actors are not shipper-inclined, from my own experience and from being in actors’ fandoms haha..Since this is a Hyun Bin platform, please keep it as a Hyun Bin-only platform, because Hyun Bin’s fans who are Binjin, BinKyo, BinShin, SeGa inclined - all have their separate Soompi platforms to share about their happiness with likeminded fans. So yes, please respect other participants in this Hyun Bin-only Soompi thread. There are good reasons why Soompi has got Actor/Actress-only forums, specific dramas’ forums and shipping paradise forums. Previously, shipper fans posting about shipping stuffs in SYJ’s Soompi forum had been ticked off by Soompi admin. I believe some of the participants here might also have had a similar experience. Please observe Soompi’s rules and don’t make the same mistake here. Re watching his movies, I highly recommend Confidential Assignment, Fatal Encounter, The Swindlers and Late Autumn. My favorite movies of his are Confidential Assignment, Fatal Encounter, The Swindlers, and Late Autumn - in that order haha. I love I Am Happy too but I wouldn’t recommend it coz the theme is not easy to digest. For drama series, unlike most of his fans, my favorite is actually Friends Our Legend. I really love love Dong Soo in there coz he wrenches my heart and shreds it into pieces every time I think of him A bit about me as a Hyun Bin fan - my first love is Kim Joo Won (Hyun Bin in Secret Garden). I have since backwatched and followed all of his projects. It was for this reason that I chased Memories of the Alhambra live - in the same way I chased Crash Landing on You live but I did that together with his Chinese fans and my bunch of drama fans friends. It was Memories of the Alhambra that brought me back as an active fan once again coz it made me realize how much I love seeing him on the small screen. When you have gotten over CLoY, please do watch that drama. His acting in there was so so good - a lot of the scenes were acted out of his own imagination as the drama requires a lot of CGI and post shooting editing. His acting was so good that he got nominated for Baeksang last year though he didn’t win an award because the competition last year was just too stiff. Am looking forward to all of your posts about Hyun Bin here.
  24. I am afraid that I have to speak up against this in this Hyun Bin’s Thread. If you still want to talk about the picture or about them, please do so in the Shipper Forum, but please, not here. His agency and his close friend have issued very STRONG statements refuting not only that his hand was holding hers in that picture but also that they are dating or have ever been dating partners in the past as well. VAST also said that both are professional actors and they would not do something that is considered to be unprofessional while filming, even if they were dating which, is not the case. In any event, if it was true that he was holding her hand under the table, do you think this would have been released as BTS by tvN?! The strong denials have been given repeatedly already. When the drama was still airing, I agree that our refusal to take the strong denials at face value can be excused because we all did not discount the possibility that they might have denied coz drama was still airing and they surely didn’t want the rumors to overshadow their drama. But, the latest denials and strong statements from Hyun Bin’s agency and close aide came after the drama has ended and in the background of the public in SK loving them and wanting them to be a real couple. This speaks volumes to me. His agency could have chosen to just speak up against the picture and leave it vague about the other rumor but instead, they chose to address the dating rumor head-on and very specifically as well. With those statements, majority of Knetz have already accepted that the rumors are not true. If you read Korean, you’d realize the impact of it. The statements have even caused some knetizens to voice their unhappiness over the unhealthy speculation coz it is giving a death knell to the possibility of them being a couple in the future (many Knetz actually want this). So yes, since we love them, we should just stop talking about that picture. I won’t dictate what you should or should not do in the shipper forum. But in this Hyun Bin-only forum, please respect him and his fans’ wish to respect him by respecting his privacy and believing what he has said. Please don’t post any shipping related stuffs here. As for the grocery picture, VAST has also once again said they were not alone and had other friends with them at that time. So yes, we should not speculate any further. His private life is none of our business. It is important that we respect his privacy and stop speculating about things that he has already spoken up against. I will also share some information- though I am not in a position to tell how the information correlate to the grocery pics because I do not know the facts, the information might at least give us some idea as to what might have been the background behind the grocery pics. 1. Lee Jung Suk, the Director of Negotiation lives in the US. 2. Park Ji Eun, the Writer of Crash Landing on You lives in the US. 3. There was an article recently released that talked about the time duration needed to engage Hallyu stars like Hyun Bin, Gong Yoo, Ha Jung Woo etc etc in projects - that they typically have to book them very early on - sometimes as long as 3 years in advance. These top stars will look at many factors such as the script and even the supporting cast etc etc. Therefore, casting them takes time because they need to match their schedule and their co-cast schedule and other support casts’ schedules and so forth. 4. Many Korean celebrities have houses in the US. Given the info shared above, it is possible that the friends with them are the Director of Nego or the Writer of CLoY. There is no reason to doubt the statement of VAST. When the LA pics were posted, his agency said that he was in the US for business. Again, with the info above, he could really have been in the US to discuss about CLoY script or about the possibility of taking part in this project. Again, there is no reason to speculate that his agency wasn’t telling the truth. I hope we all stop talking and speculating about that picture. It has caused enough harm as it is already. I also want to sincerely apologize for my previous posts in the shipper thread. Many continue to like my posts and I am reminded of my folly everytime a like crops up in my email notification. I shouldn’t have participated in all of these speculations and I do regret having done so. Re Bargaining, I am not sure if I have already shared about this, but will share again. Bargaining is a movie based on the true story that happened in 2007 when 23 South Korean Christian missionaries were held hostage by the Taliban in Afghanistan. Hyun Bin will play as a NIS agent and Hwang Jeong Min will play as a diplomat and together the duo will help to negotiate for the release of the hostages who were alive (a few were killed before the release). Movie is directed by Yim Soon Rye, the Director of Korean movie Little Forest and produced by Watermelon Pictures. The movie schedule shows its likely release date to be in September. As Hwang Jeong Min has already confirmed acting in JTBC’s upcoming drama 허쉬 which is scheduled to be aired in the second half of this year, I expect that shooting for the movie will start very soon. Will post any updates that I see.
  25. There is one very good review/commentary written by Jung Si Woo, a Film Columnist about Hyun Bin as an actor in romance dramas. http://m.ize.co.kr/view.html?no=2020021716057218325 I provide here my translation of that commentary. ———————————————————————- A look at Hyun Bin - A man who is like a lie! (the phrase which I have translated as “lie” is 후라이 (hu rai) Pyo Chil Su’s pet phrase) This winter of 2019, with the arrival of "Crash Landing on You", actor Hyun Bin created another life-like character - Comrade Ri Jung Hyuk! The TV series did end in a little bit of an underwhelming sort of way. The tension accumulated until the middle of the drama was loosely dismantled, and the tangled contradictions were resolved with a sense of absurdity but with ease. Not to mention that the man and woman in love would meet only once a year for two weeks. The open ending of them meeting each other at the bridge in Switzerland is ambiguous - though it isn’t a complete reunion, it is also not considered a "tragedy". Maybe the writer wants us to believe that this is the best choice that can be found out of the reality of two countries that are split, but because it was a bright ending, it was also a little colourlesss. Besides, hasn't writer Park Ji-eun used a similar type of ending of "long-distance love" for “You Who Come from the Stars"? Nevertheless, the "Crash Landing on You” still fully embodies this truth: that the success of a romance drama depends entirely on the main characters. While SYJ’s charm is also dazzling, but the person I want to talk about here is the actor Hyun Bin. The genre that shows off Hyun Bin's greatest strength is romance. In this field, he has already experienced two peak moments. For most actors, it is difficult to experience a peak moment even once in a lifetime. But for Hyun Bin, he has already experienced it twice. This was the case with "My name is Kim Sam Soon" which awakened the love cells of women, and caused them to harbor the desire to be Jeon Ji Hyun, or Kim Tae Hee. The same is the case for The Secret Garden. Now, once again, Hyun Bin has attracted the audience to enter into the "Hyun Bin World" through the tvN’s “Crash Landing on You” which ended on February 16. You might ask why is that so amazing? Let me tell you IT IS REALLY AMAZING. This is because this art of seduction which can capture an unspecified number of minds at all age groups with his beautiful look and charms, is not an ability given to all. This is an area that even Song Kang-ho or Choi Min-sik, who have great achievements in their own careers in acting, have not experienced. It's not that so and so is better than so and so. I want to say that every actor has his own unique talent/charisma in his own field. Here, I am talking about the attributes of one Star who has the ability to become the object of desires and daydreaming to the masses through his romance dramas. However, Hyun Bin is nicknamed the "king of melodramas" not simply because he had three powerful turning points through romance dramas. The nickname stems from his various styles in the theme of love. When Hyun Bin made his debut appearance in the melodrama “Ireland” as the bodyguard Kang Gook, he used his infectious voice to convey the emotional lines created by writer In Jeong Ok in such a way that left behind a long aftertaste, displaying a power much unlike a newcomer. His wife (Lee Na Young) fell in love with another man, and instead of being angry, he said, "It seems that he is smarter than me, that guy. I seem to be a bit inadequate." Kang Gook, the fool in love who forcefully concealed his pain and continued to love persistently and unchangingly, will go on to become one of the characteristics often captured in Hyun Bin's acting in the future. In the series “My Name is Kim Sam-soon," he revealed the face of Prince Charming, and in "The World They Live” which was a work by writer Noh Hee-kyung, he landed in the real world and so realistically and vividly portrayed Jeong Ji-oh who was "always cool but often nasty” that people have the illusion that Jeong Ji-oh (Hyun Bin) was really a living person outside of the drama. Whenever there is an opportunity to express feelings, there are always actors who use their tears as a starting point to show their emotions. Among such actors, Hyun Bin's naturally easy, unexaggerated acting with the right degree of emotions is quite new; in a movie like “I am very happy", which shows the daily mundane life, his real value in acting really comes out with even more dazzling results. He is never exaggerated when playing as a romantic character. Even when playing a playboy character, he didn’t portray merely a swoonsome figure. In the movie of the same name, which remade director Lee Man-hee's "Late Autumn” of 1966, he breathed life into the character by infusing details into the “playboy” man, Hun, who was a “very compassionate, deeply-thoughtful” man and who gave off feels of loneliness and cuteness at the same time. Therefore, Hyun Bin is a man who, while being Prince Charming in the fantasy world, at the same time, he is also an ordinary man who lives somewhere around us in this world. Few actors can skillfully coordinate between these two extreme charms as the foundation of romance melodramas the way Hyun Bin does. It is for this reason that Hyun Bin is regarded as the most suitable actor for a TV series like "Crash Landing on You", which took the "fantasy-love" of a North Korean military officer and a South Korean chaebol into South Korea's most sensitive "reality". "Crash Landing on You" is by Park Ji-Eun who has authored "You Who Come from the Stars" that tells the love story between an alien and a top actress and "Legend of the Blue Sea", a work inspired by the legend of the mermaid. There is also fantasy in “Crash Landing on You” and that is the truce line that cuts the north from the south. The main background is set in North Korea, a place located on the other side of the Republic of Korea, that is physically near, but psychologically farther away than Argentina - an unknown land. But this world is not like the completely fantasy world of "You Who Come from the Stars" and "Legend of the Blue Sea". Those kinds of fantasy space allows unlimited imagination but in this fantasy world, you are playing in a space that actually exists; so the fantasy in “Crash Landing on You” is different in nature. "Crash Landing on You" needs to be both powered by fantasy and yet, rooted in reality. This is why Hyun Bin, who has the ability to travel freely between the two worlds, is perfect for this work. In a way, the Ri Jung Hyuk we see in "Crash Landing on You" is an embodiment of all the roles that Hyun Bin has shown so far. When hiding his love inside a cold, indifferent facade, Ri Jung Hyuk is Samshik in "My Name is Kim Sam Soon"; when he doesn’t know how to shake off his love and finds himself desperately committed to his beloved woman like a fool, he is Kang Gook in "Ireland"; when he uses the power he has by virtue of his birthright to protect his love, he displays the 2nd generation chaebol Kim Joo Won in "The Secret Garden"; when he dreams of spending a trivial day with his love, he becomes Ji-Oh in “World Within Us”. All in all, he is a man who is romantic but not cringe-worthy, honest but not boring, calm and yet, deep. The typical frame of the drama, in which the man protects the woman, could have been too old-fashioned, but thanks to Hyun Bin, we have a man with the delicate sensibilities that Hyun Bin has given him - a man who transcends magic and exists like a lie. The actor, Hyun Bin, who has carved out extraordinary records in the melodrama genre, doesn't seem to have any intention to just remain in the melodrama genre. With his on-screen moves in recent years as a readable hint, showing his choices of action, crime and historical genres, Hyun Bin has quietly expanded his scope. Although there is currently no work that has fully shown his own strength and competence in the way romance melodramas have shown of him, which is a problem he needs to solve, but his determination and his vision to not only be a handsome actor is clear. Therefore, people are even more curious what action this man who is like a lie will show in the future. Written by 정시우 Jung Si-woo (Columnist, Film Journalist) Please note that the original version in Korean shall prevail. My translation is only a translation for reference only. ——————————————————————- PS: I am eagerly awaiting his new movie, Bargaining. @willenette I just want to let you know that his agency has strongly refuted that he was holding her hands in that picture. There was an OSEN report that came out yesterday that reported this : “Someone who is close to Hyun Bin said this to OSEN, “Hyun Bin is very distressed by these dating rumors that have cropped up time and again. It is understandable that many people, after seeing their great chemistry in the drama, want them to date in real life but the truth is, they were never lovers in the past and at present, they are also not lovers.” My impression from what I have read in Korean is that the denial is categorical. So yes, I think that as fans of Hyun Bin, we should take at face value what has been stated to be his stand on this. They have not been dating and are presently not dating partners as well. I for one, won’t want to add to his “distress” at all. Like many, I had also thought they might be dating too and was also hoping that they are since they look so good together. But after reading the reports that have come out yesterday and the day before (I can’t remember if the hot news was over 2 days or just 1 day haha), I realized I was wrong. Also, we have his past practice of openly and coolly admitting to his relationships. So yes, there is no reason to go behind what has been stated. I will trust him and support all his choices. I want to remain a “career fan” that supports him in all his projects and not be overly concerned about his private life except when it is necessary to protect his reputation against malicious rumors
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