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  1. On 12/19/2019 at 3:05 AM, MidnightRain said:

    @UnniSarah Nope, the Empress does not love the Emperor in the novel. She's with him because she's power hungry and Liang Jing Meng had made it clear that he's not interested in harboring power for himself. Also the Emperor does not love her either, she's just something that he stole from Liang Jing Meng, to prove that he's better because he was crazy jealous of Liang Jing Meng. 


    15 hours ago, MidnightRain said:
    18 hours ago, crackaddict said:

    Damn, that's cold haha. No wonder why the don't trust each other at all. Feel bad for the crown prince. I think he's the crown prince...I mean the nice prince who befriends Ding Ning. 


    Yeah, he's completely different from his parents. :lol:


    Also, how can the Emperor and Empress trust each other? One betrayed their lover and the other betrayed their best friend and closest ally. And the thing is, Liang Jing Meng was completely loyal to them yet they stab him in the back and killed him. The betrayal may have brought them together but they are also wary of each other because they know what the other is capable of. 

    Okay hold up, Now I'm confused also. I thought the girl that's in charge of that brigade was the one that betrayed him.. Do I need to go back and rewatch .. :confused:


    If they are the CP parents no wonder he looked so scared to drink the wine offered by the emperor.. I thought some of the courtiers was going to die afterwards..  

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  2. Hello Everyone, Coming to the discussion late, But have a few question about the drama. I've been following and now on ep 21, Hating I didn't let it get subbed further then it presently is before I started to watch.  


    My question is whats the king relation to FX .? 

    My niece and I have this heated debate about his relation to the supposed to be dad and the King. I know the old man in the wheelchair is his G/father.

    Also like to know whats his relation to the old lady that raised him.. 

  3. Hello Everyone, Great way to return back to Kdrama. I envision so many things happening later in this one.. Manly things happening to Hwi being manipulated because of his sister will be in the hands of his enemies..  Also the love triangle isn't going to help his mental state of mind when his so called friend will be playing the role of a lover to his love interest when it's only onesided.. 



    Loving the role of JH taking on the role of BW.. 

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  4. On 3/15/2019 at 6:27 PM, Razberry said:

    I would've even liked to see the emperor talk to Ming Lan at the end when he is showing them his harvest. I think someone mentioned in the novel that ML and GTY regained their title and even got a promotion? I would've loved to actually see that. I know it's inferred that it's a happily ever after ending, but after journeying with them for 70+ episodes, I think we deserved more than just guessing what happened to certain people. I wished that they would've done a small time skip and showed us Ming Lan's second baby's birthday, where all of her families and friends were together again. 

    @Razberry  Hopefully theres a season 2 and we get to see how things play out after the old schemers are gone bringing in new ones.. 

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  5. 6 hours ago, shihuangdi said:

    So who was the assassin who want to kill GTY's son? Her fighting skill is on par with Shitou, was she send by the palace, since she was kneeling outside the gate when ML beating the drum?


    Also, Molan was laughing at ML only to find out her own marriage is falling apart. 

    @shihuangdi  No more of ML schemes, Do we get to see and bad ending for her also besides her husband sleeping with her top assistant..


    What is step mom doing with her son..? 

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  6. 7 hours ago, dito said:

    Now if they had incorporated this storyline after the Gu house is divided and the family living separately....then I could understand stepmom's actions. Then GTY and the other Gu's would be separate families and will not be that affected by each other's actions.


    Using the salt mines mismanagement would have been so much simpler and sensible .....if they did want to go over dramatic for the finale week.

    And I was horrified at GTY showing his glee and happiness on hearing of ML's desperate begging in front of the empress.

    Writers, do you even understand your drama's characters? 


    This story didn't need to be this dramatic at this juncture, the finale was going to have more than enough drama. We had just finished a very emotional story track of the poisoning. Then the child birth surrounded by fire and the knife attack. At this time, the story needed to take a deep breathe and calm the f**k down to start the final rebellion track which had plenty of excitement. And if they wanted more excitement just make that part super dramatic. No need to add unnecessary stuff that don't even make sense. 


    Theres a saying....Don't fix it, if its not broken. Screen writers need to understand that.

    @dito  Well Said.  I thought using the posioning act was a good way tying up the end, It would have made for a nice ending even using the salt mines for a means to a good ending would be suffice.. But stretching the story to add more moola sometimes you have to wonder is it really worth it..


    7 hours ago, nichiwoohee said:

    LOL at the soldiers all looking down due to embarrassment 


    it’s near the last episode, I’ll just stay away from this thread until the last ep finish getting subbed :P 

    @nichiwoohee  Good Luck With That:P 

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  7. 5 hours ago, Golden Flower said:

    Although I agree that there are a lot of weakness in the writing for the whole drama especially in recent episodes including ruckus caused by Wang family, stepmom & Gu family, Bai family and MN in imperial throne room and reason GTY being imprisoned and exiled, I think Molan's motive to destroy ML is understandable and not weak. Molan is not only jealous but hates ML to guts by this point. She might also think that she won't be caught for releasing Aunty Kang as it was stepmom who took Kang in and Kang would never admit getting help from Molan, a shu daughter whom she despised of. I have summarized Molan's attitudes towards ML from the beginning to this point in my pervious post two pages ago. Molan is like Aunty Kang who thinks that her needs should be given priority over anyone and her position including in their father's heart should be higher than any of her sister. She didn't think that she would be treated as outsider by SH until recently. She would be really furious when she was scolded by SH for trying to involve in Sheng's family affair no matter how much she beg him to tell her when she knew ML and her guards were involved in solving this situation. She was already pissed at ML for not allowing her mother spiritual tablet to be erected in the temple as well as when empress said the girl GTY is going to marry is very lucky and blessed (it was shown Molan squashing Longan fruit with her fingers at the Polo match where GTY proposed to ML and requested empress's hairpin as bestowment for his new bride). 


    @leeza77 I'm pretty sure GTY was convicted, imprisoned and going to be exiled after imprisoned for certain period. He wasn't just being demoted. If he is just demoted, he won't be imprisoned, exiled and his hereditary Marquess title won't be taken away, just his general title will be taken away. I'm not talking about grandplan if it exists but in the eyes of public, they took away his Marquess title (Molan mentioned about it and belittled ML and ML didn't deny it). In the preview, empress actually told ML why GTY can't be imprisoned and exiled when he committed crime right after ML struck the drum (she was wearing noble lady attire). ML also told her family that they still have time to figure things out before he is actually exiled in autumn. General Shen also requested emperor to let him take convicted felon Gu along with his army as he is good with military strategies being excellent in both fields. He would make sure to bring him back, let him go back to prison after coming back and then exiled him in the autum. Emperor first denied general shen's request but later approved since Wang family requested to let GTY go to war (stepmom told her maid Xiang mama that ED asked Wang family to do that request since it is easier to kill GTY away from palace than being imprisoned in palace near emperor and his other powerful friends). 

    @GoldenFlower  Also we must not forget that ML marriage was the big event of the year something Molan always seen herself having.. She thought that marrying the Liang Count would give her all the extravagance that she thought she deserved only to be fooled by her and CL on foolishness.. Molan thought she being the Eldest that her beauty was above her younger sisters and she should be next in line to marry.. Being that Minglan was younger then her and had her MIL eyeing Minglan for her son and finding out QH never gave her the time of day not even in a thought was just to unacceptable for her.. Molan thought if she didn't act then she'll become and old spinster or a concubine like her mom..


    Now did GTy actually get convicted of killing Aunt Kang.? Did the accusation hold up of him killing her in the court yard.? So all those people that was in Minglang room when Aunt Kang was there with a knife stabbing people are liars.. This has to be some sort of plan because none of it makes sense.. Here it is she was lock up behind Minglan only to go to her home and assits with a delivery.. I know the King can't be this densed.. Do they even mention the incident of her trying to kill Granny.. The more I type this the more I've come to the conclusion this has to be a setup for the ED..

    Please explain the titles these houses carries..

    Duke: IDK

    Marquis: Pillar to the Royal Family.

    Count: QH dad being married to the princess


    4 hours ago, matrim said:

    In one of the recent previews, eunuch Li confronted ML "How dare you defy imperior edcit and not come into the palace. Is Gu Clan revolting against the emperor?" ML just ordered Shitou to detain eunuch Li. This is in line with the novel plot when ED launched rebellion and tried to lure noblewomen from families of emperor's side into the palace and used them as hostages. If ML wasn't Marquis Gu's wife, it doesn't make sense for eunuch Li to deliver such an order. This is one proof that GTY just got demoted but didn't lose his title.

    @matrim  So the ED tried to barrow one from the previous Emperor concubine books.. The ED may be smart but pulling a move like this wouldn't fly with Minglan.. Her husband is already in the palace prison who she has seen already and probably that day.. Minglan read between the lines why would a Eunich come to her at house night wanting her to go to the palace can't be good.. So the Ed was going to use her to have GTY probably kill himself to save her or they both would be killed.. Most likely both would be killed.. The Ed wouldn't leave Minglan alive to tell the story of what she done.  Well the funny part to this is the ED never factored in the part if the person you need don't come.. Now she got her Eunichs put in a bind and no way to explain herself out of this.. 


    This could be the reasons why she sent her soliders there..


    I was wondering how could they take GTY marquis title from him.. He inherited his own title but also inherited the marquis title from his brother which generations of Gu's has died defending the country just like him.. This title is past down from generation to generation.. So GTY son his he next in line to inhherit the title not 3rd brother..  the Gus was part of founding the dynasty i wonder.. To strip him of his tile is a slap in the ancestors faces and a mark on the emperor himself.. Who would want to fight a war for him only to be treated like this. 


    Oh Yes @lclarakl One of my favorites line from GTY is when he told his brother. Pretentious display of proper etiquett should be done.. OUCH.. Rub salt in the wounds..   

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  8. 6 hours ago, linhlinh111 said:


    I'm not sure but based on my knowledge on historical practices, unless her father openly disowns her (which he won't do cuz it will stir up a public scandal), he has to take her back. Not only that, to avoid public eye the divorce will be done as quiet as possible. What he does to her after that though, is behind closed doors. It can either be being grounded or exiled for life. Or he can give a signal to her husband to kill her off in silence (I don't think he would do that but possible). All and all, they will deal with it underground.


    These are 2 methods that are usually used in this kind of situation if both parties are smart. Another stupid method is that the husband kicks her out while the father refuses to take her back. Letting her loose is usually the root to another trouble.

    @LinhLinh  Thanks for giving me the explanation on why concubines was a must then.. 

    Your right letting Molan a loose to wreck havoc on peoples lives will be worst then Aunt Kang wrecking havoc.. If she's divorced I could see her under house arrest at the farm but thats still not fool proof.. But sending her there and feed her posion would be a good way for her to go.. She can reside at the farm with her mom since they both can't be placed in the temple.. The sinister women, I kind of feel sorry for the brother and his new born daughter..

    3 hours ago, zenya22 said:

    @Golden FlowerAll his property and the Gu manor will be taken back by the emperor as imperial property? Then Madam Qin will have no place to stay then? Will she be driven out of the Gu Manor in that case? Could she not have foreseen that? It would be so nice to see Madam Qin thrown out if that were to happen?

    @zenya22  Now I'm not following this.. How can the courts take his personal property that he inherited from his mothers family.. this sounds a lil shady to me.. It seems like they want his salt mines from the Bai family.. The court only supposed to take the property that rewarded him with.. So is this how they going to brake up the houses.. This sounds like something Step Mom and the Ed came up with.. I have seen historical dramas where men fall out of the graces of the court but managed tio stay in there wealthy homes because of there own personal property.. 


    The big question is do they ever finds out that all went there screaming he killed and innocent person was lying.. It would have been better if they blamed the killing on Ming Lan she could have gotten away with it.. 

    2 hours ago, minglan1 said:

    Villainy is never entirely product of an era..it also has an element of human nature that indulges in it.Even if a person has a good upbringing they can turn to a life of crime.Molan and Aunt Kang are not product of neglect in the era.Contrarily they were treated better and received preferential treatment than their male siblings.


    @minglan1  Aunt Kang is the product of Old Mdm she has raised her to believe she can do no wrong, Whatever she did was right when all knew it was wrong.. This is why SH said no wonder her villianess acts are getting worst as she commits them.. She did what she did because she knew mom and brother would hold up the sky for her.. Big Mdm never taught her to fear the gods because in her mind there was no gods to give her retirbution but it was there in her face she just didn't recognize it.. ( her husband and all his Shu children from the girls to the boys) She seen herslf as a god and was allowed to do whatever she liked.. I think she got this trait from her mom.. 


    When it came to Old Mdm, She went to the ED to see if she still carried any weight in the court since she just moved back..       

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  9. 45 minutes ago, frenchfan said:
    2 hours ago, shihuangdi said:

    If Molan gets divorce, would she return to the Sheng house? Or where would she live then?

    Not sure her dad would want her back since this will be a shameful event for the family.  :grimace:

    @shihuangdi & @frenchfan It's not so much about what SH says now it comes down to CB he seems to have the final say in all matters regarding the Sheng household.. CB would think if Molan don't get her way or if he does something she might not like given her personality and her past she's bold enough to kill his child..   CB wouldn't let her back in the home just because of her past actions regardless to how much SH dotes on her in the past.. I think she'll be sent to live at the farm or a temple.. 


    23 hours ago, jongski said:

    @sava2sava you watching this show too. Me as well. I binge watch this 3days 10 episodes each.

     I like to curl that hair of 4th sister molan! grrr! That mother and daughter! :angry:

    Yes @jongski I'm watching this one also.. I haven't watch any Kdrama because I've been so invested in this one also the thread for the past few weeks.. Also seeing @lclarakl  Has drop in, Hello,  


    22 hours ago, lclarakl said:

    However, this story settled down nicely and I loved how they developed the relationship between Ming Lan and Gu. I love the manly, comic side of Gu. I didn't find him as attractive as young man, but I find him extremely attractive as an adult male.

    @lclarakl  GTY is the Man amongst the Men in this drama, 


    23 hours ago, Suzzy San said:

    I think it's a rebel period and GTY was never exiled he was just put down in power and made a foot soldier.. Then I think from the novel they just went to another place out of the country after he was reinstated and as a political mission for his position.. ED definitely knows that he still supports prince Huan and if prince Huan becomes the next king GTY will in no time come back to power and will deal with her.. 

    @Suzzy San  The Ed knows this she didn't ask the concubine (her niece) for her child with no reason.. She needs that child to remain in power and the bloodline will change eventually why not change it to keep part of her family linege involved in the royal court.. Also if her rebellion comes through she can place the child on the throne and she rule behind the curtain until she's dead..  The Ed needs GTy out of the picture for good so her plans can come to fruitation.. She knows GTY can read her and foul up whatever she tries to do..  

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  10. 4 hours ago, minglan1 said:

     Looks like Molan's husband has discovered what she has been up too.

    @minglan1  Why is Molan so hell bent on interfering with Minglan matters.. I know it has to be more then her mom tablet reasons.. Even if it steems from jealousy what difference would it make.. It's not like she could marry GTY herself.. Wouldn't it be better for her to accept her Lil Sister married higher then her and to keep a good family relationship with her for the future of her children sake rather then continue to make more of and enemy to Minglan..  


    @lclarakl  GTY has some hilarious diaologue in this drama.. I just sit back and wait for whatever is coming out of his mouth especially when dealing with stepmom the 4th and 5th house.. Love it when it tells the step mom her talent is a waste in the Gu house she needs to join the southern opera troupe..:w00t:


    4 hours ago, shihuangdi said:

    Looks like her husband mentions something about ML and how evil Molan and her mother are. Did he find out about Molan involvement in the releasing Aunt Kang?

    @shihuangdi  I'm wondering since her plan to barrow Aunt Kangs knife to kill Ming Lang, Have she hookup with Evil Step Mom.. It seens she trying to strike Minglan while GTY is supposed to be out of the equation with the courts and loosing his position.. If so I hope she gets found out and husband kicks her out of the home for good..  

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  11. 22 hours ago, nichiwoohee said:

    Again,  SH surprised that ML isnt the same docile gentle daughter that he know is hilarious.

    Have you seen the troubles your marquis son-in-law brought to ml’s life?? Murderous stepmom in law, nosy annoying aunts and uncles in laws, corrupt village officials, spies, cunning crazy baby momma, emperor power strugle with ed, people trying to shove women to her house every chance they got.. it would be a miracle if she stays the same :joy:

    @nichiwoohee  I'm was wondering is it some kind of crime if there's no concubines in the house.  From the ED down to the relatives all tried to stick concubines in the house for there very own selfish reasons..


    13 hours ago, Suzzy San said:

    Omg omg :thumbsup:.. I really applaud GTY in terms of no strings attached cruelty.. Like he got to the house and has already told shitou to set fire to stepmom son's house.. I love that.. Fire for fire.. And I agree with the wife of her son, she really doesn't care about the son's needs.. It has always been about what she wants the son to be. 

    @Suzzy San  It was never about her son it's always been all about her and what she wanted.. 3rd son wants a good relationship with his brother it's just his mom won't allow him to have one with GTY.. Even he said he don;t mind having the marquis title but he's not qualified for nor have work for it like GTY did.. Evil Step Mom blew a fuse hearing him say that..

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  12. 6 hours ago, Katrina Abdul Talib said:

    Other men, whether like or hate their legal wives can keep as many concubines to their hearts desires.

    Must be really difficult to be a woman during those times

    @Katrina Abdul Talib  This was Aunt Kang biggest problem. After CL died and she found Danning and her husband marriage had improved she got furious about it and stormed out trying to figure out ways to disrupt her sisters house.. Using Grannty was pwrfect way and she could also get money out of the Gu's since she hated the fact of hearing ML won't take in a concubine for him but I'm sure she knew it wasn;t to no fault of ML that GTY wasn't going to have a concubine it was GTY himsef who said he didn;t want no other women but ML.. He just wasn't ready to take in a concubine all because of Manning.. This also upset Aunt Kamg with jealous rage hearing a Marquis decide to give his love to know one but his main wife who was a concubine born child..


    I'm just curious to why she didn't take her Shu daughter to her sister husband to be his concubine.. CL was dead at that time..


    6 hours ago, mooose said:

    Now we have the battle of the familes and some delicious suspense as we don't know how it  plays out. Old Madam Kang vs ML is way better than Manniang or even Stepmom vs ML.

    @moose  I'm looking forward to see how ML bring Old Lady Wang prestigous house down causing the ED also to loose face and hopefully to shut her up once and for all.. I'm hoping ML play the Shu daughters cards with the Old Bat.. Especially the one she told to kill herself in ML house so she could sue for money just to be able to support her husband sons he bore with many concubines.. 


    What I'm finding hard to believe is all those servants that got harmed but Aunt Kangs knife is all supposed to be lying.. I see another attempt on ML life afer GTY is sent to the border.. 


    Hopefully Ronger will testify how her mom tried to kill her maybe she'll even come out with her son who might not be dead.. But I still see Evil step mom going after ML and her son life

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  13. 41 minutes ago, Golden Flower said:

    Wang son is at least third grade official since he is wearing purple robe similar rank as GTY though GTY has noble title. The officials from grade 1 to 3 seems to wear purple but they are then divided into scholar, military and having nobility title. I guess he just got promoted to this grade and was the reason they were being able to move back to the capital. Wang dead grandfather is imperial grand tutor and his spiritual tablet was placed in imperial temple as an honor. So, his wife Wang grandma also has noble title. The son is not as powerful like his father. Aunty Kang's husband is imperial secretary. SH is part of office related to making laws, announcing laws and imperial decrees. I guess an official being able to reside at the capital not all depends on the rank but also depends on their offices. 


    Aunty Kang's room was locked and shui niang (Lin Yiniang's old maid) broke it open with stone. She also made the mama who were guarding to leave to help with fire. Molan paid her to do that and I'm pretty sure Shui niang might have bribed some others as well. Shui niang is also the one that started the fire. She was supposed to do laboral chores like cleaning the toilet bowls, starting fire, doing errands for the kitchen etc. I think the water she used to kill the fire as soon as it started must not be water as fire got bigger after. 

    However, I agree that there are a lot of plot holes. GTY could have avoided killing Aunty Kang with his ability in martial arts. He could have knocked her out with throwing unsheathed knife to her head even if he wasn't close enough to pull her away from ML when he arrived. The writers changed Aunty Kang stabbing ML instead of MN, GTY killing her and Wang family joining hands with stepmom to create opportunities for ML to save GTY, to make them closer, and to show their feelings to each other. Another OTP working together scene which is again forced. 

    @Golden Flower  How is it that Wang son became and official when he hadn't took the exams yet.. I remember him telling Aunt Kang he would pass with his own abilities.. All I could think of is when outsiders come into the palace to meet the King, ED or the Empress they are strip search to avoid anything that could be used as a weapon to do bodily harm.. 


    Checking out ep 67.. It seems that GTY told evil step mom that he was going to kill his 3rd brother.. Looks like the wife left after telling Evil mother in-law a thing or two for involving her husband in such a horrible plan.. Evil step mom and servants has no place to go after the main house is burnt to the ground.. It seems like she's also trying to enlist the 4th anf 5th house in on the plan to frame GTY and I don't think they going for it afterall they still rely in GTY to support them.. Even if GTY goes to prison his son is around to carry the title and ML could be the guardian of it all until son comes of age or GTY gets out of prison.. So Evil step mom has no other choice but to gang up with the Wangs to go after GTY.. Old Mdm Wang knows her daughter was there to exact revenge on ML but may have got the idea to frame GTy and ask for compensation from evil step mom who needs money to survive because she's homeless and son on the run.. Well it's getting more interesting by the minute.. I like to see what our sherlock holmes will do to get her out out of the hot seat and have the Emperor giving the green light to breakup the houses..


    Now I do think the 3rd brother is going to be found and begging for his life in exchange for exile he'll spill the beans on how awful is mom was right along in telling on the 4th anf 5th house.. He's going to tell about how Aunt kang was at his mom house and she's the one that got her into GTY house just after ML just giving birth and gave her the knife to kill ML and the baby so he could inherit the title..  I see how this could make the Ed loose face and not allowed to attend any of the court matters for falling for Old Mdm lies it would serve her right..


    I think Molam got involved after she went begging her dad again about her mom and he said no.. I'm sure I herad him mention her lil sister isn't going to agree to it.. This could also be apart of her plan to be in on setting ML house on fire all so the evidence that ML has would be burnt..  



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  14. 11 minutes ago, m0us3y said:

    Actually no. She actually meant because she's married to GTY, hence should no longer meddle in Sheng's business.

    It's like she belongs to Gu now. Not Sheng. 

    Hence GTY retorted that Old Mdm Wang shouldnt be there too, because Mdm Kang is also married to the Kang Family, and technically no longer right for Wang to meddle. 


    GTY will tear them apart for bullying ML. 

    I believe even granny said so. 


    If my understanding is correct:

    Granny said she can now die peacefully since she knows someone else would do everything to protect her. 

    GTY rushed back all the way from his official business, killing 2 horses on the way (died from exhaustion so he just kept changing horses to continue his journey rather than stop to rest) just to rush to her aid. 

    She also mentioned that it seems that GTY will not let the Wang Family off easily because he will want to avenge ML being bullied. 

    @m0us3y  Yes forgot about that logic, ML called it for Auntie Kang husband don't know of this because the old lady knows he would be filling divorce papers.. They came to clear the mess before he found out.. They been cleaning up her mess to keep her out of they house.. Both the Old Lady and Son knows of what she do and never giving any thought of the consequences because they've always cleaned up her mess.. With each incident her crimes had become more ruthless and violent then the other.. As long as she stayed married to the Kang house and not implicate the Wang house they would do whatever they had to just to keep the clan clean and intact.. Old Lady Wang could careless about Kang Clan.. Which I couldn't understand Aunt Kang son he is born under the Kang family name if they are to be executed so would he do he not know this.. He still hasn't figured out his mom could be the death of them all.. He should have told SH CB and ML I think my father needs to be here for this one. God forbid If she went back home only to pull stunts because everyone marriages are better then hers so hence she must go stir up trouble all because she's not happy and put the Wang Clan in the hot seat running her fathers good name with the court.. Old Lady Wang don't wanna be bothered with her.. Fearing the clan heads will roll behind her..  

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  15.  Poor Danning always been the black sheep of her family treated worst then a red headed step child.. This must have been the most hurtful eye opener ever.. Mother basically comes right out and show her how much she don't like her and played her mother can't stand you going to court card all to save Aunt Kang..:o:crazy: I think Danning should have gave her mom that bottle of poision thats left and told her if she wants to save Aunt Kang so bad to drink this.. Old Lady Wang thought she was slick, She just knew she could use SH to get Aunt Kang out of her mess.. If GTY and CB hadn't walk in she would have got away with it.. Even after SH spoke of how may killings have they covered up for her she still had the nerve to ask CB where was SH as if he had no say so in the matter..  


    Here's to the man that ruled this episode



    :thumbsup: CB Let That Old Lady Have It :thumbsup: Show her nothing she could do or say could save Aunt Kang..

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  16. 3 hours ago, m0us3y said:

    When Old Mdm Wang tried to send ML away saying that she's a married daughter hence should not meddle in Sheng issues, GTY responded "If so, why are you here?"

    BURNNNN! :lol:

    Old Mdm Wang reaction on both times were priceless! 

    @m0us3y  So she consider ML isn't a Sheng just because she wasn't bore from her dumb daughter who she threw under the bus for Aunt Kang.. Only Danning has Sheng kids.? She must have not known of Danning putting her on her family registry. Wow yes she another one that had to have trouble with her husband and concubine born children.. This could be were Aunt Kang thought it was alright to treat her Shu daughters the way she did.. Glad GTY ask her why she was there.. For she's not a Sheng.. Old lady Wang just mad because they got the best of her the youngsters.. 

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  17. 15 hours ago, Suzzy San said:

    I'm so happy that I'm crying really.. So glad she gave birth safely, so thankful to QH for helping with the fire, so happy that GTY came back on time, so grateful to all those that helped her fight of the Kang auntie and helped her in giving birth, so thankful to their son for staying strong.. In all, I'm so happy for them :bawling:

    Aunt Kang died a horrible death.. But it was well deserved for her evilness that spilled on all those Shu daughters.. I think they all should give ML some kind of reward for exacting they revenge on her.. I would love it if all of them came to aunt funeral to spit on her coffin.. See what Old Mdm thinks about that while she's pleading to the Ed to punish GTY.. Her daughter has killed to many people.. Just hadone attempted the murder of Granny now she out after being broke out to try and kill again.. She got her just desert.. 


    11 hours ago, dito said:


    I know this will be easier to prove than something that ED frames him for. I just want this to make sense. For e.g. GTY owns the Bai family salt mines but has never managed them personally. So ED framing him for mismanagement of salt mines....that would be believable for me. But in this case, there are a lot of loop holes in the writing....which is annoying the hell out of me. This is making smart characters look stupid and on the top of that its questioning the viewers intelligence. 

    First of all Kang Aunt escaping is the biggest logic fail for me. Like is it possible that ML, GTY, Changbai or Sheng family would leave a vicious woman like her not locked up...and without guards. :confused:

    Another thing mentioned in the book was no one among the people involved in this matter was high enough in rank to go in front of the emperor to petition for Kang Aunt...except for GTY and ML....because of their titles.  

    Stepmom getting a title makes sense now.....so she can cause trouble like this.....but why is Wang mother and son there.....son is not an official, I think.

     Somebody, please explain this to me so it makes sense.

    @dito  Just as you said this is playing in the viewers intellegence.. Yes I could see the ED trying to frame GTY in regards to the salt mines but that would be still hard to prove because he never directly handle the mines all knows that he's the owner not the manager..  This big plot hole is unacceptable framing him for Aunt Kamgs murder.. I know step mom can't be this dumb as to go with the plot for a law suit when the other Shu daughter that Aunt Kang tried to offer to ML for GTY at Aunt Kang request can testify that Aunt Kang wanted her to kill herself just so she can frame ML for it and sue them killing ML.. Which Big Mdm (Danning) Evil Step Mom was all in on the plot.. Old Mdm is just mad and complaining about Aunt Kang being dead out of guilt.. How is it that GTY killed Aunt Kang in the court yard when she was in ML bedroom.. I guess she's (Evil Step Mom) claiming she witness GTY just kill this women for no reason..   


    11 hours ago, minglan1 said:

    I agree things don't appear to logical.I guess they are wrapping it up and still have to tie GTY's getting in a tight spot and ML saving him.Emperor solidifying his throne for good.This appears the convenient way out.Logic and dramas tend to part ways then catch up to again lag behind.I have seen very few series which have kept a tight grip on logic throughout. 

    I haven't read the book so have no idea on the plot progression in it.

    Aunt Kang's father was a highly respected official looks like they are trying to use his good name to cry foul in front of ED/emperor.

    I guess it also will give QH a chance to redeem himself.

    @minglan1  We've all been giving SH a hard time this wil be a chance to redeem himself and go to bat for his SIL putting his good  face,name and reputation on the line.. I just hope it's found out it was Molan that let her out all because she wanted to see ML and her child dead.. SH claim he would cut ties with her let's see if the writer expose her and the family ties are cut for good and she's kick out of her In-laws house..


    10 hours ago, dito said:

    That's what I'm hoping too. Either that or they use this accusation as an opportunity and construct a plan around it. Either way is fine.

    And isn't ML managing his books...all his businesses and properties....ML has full knowledge about them. So she could have helped with the salt issue too.

    @dito  GTY has and accountant in the home to show proof of what he do deal with. Yes he still has some salt mines in his possession but he has never done much with it.. It would be funny if the ED is trying to frame him for this when it's her and her family that's been ripping him off all these years..


    9 hours ago, shihuangdi said:

    Seeing old madam Wang, I understand why aunt Kang turned out to become that kind of person. Trying to protect her daughter is one thing, but claiming that she is pure and innocent, I wanna punch her face even though its frown upon to punch old people. 


    But isn’t the poisoning case not made known outside of the Sheng manor (the house is blocked by Tu Er Ye and nobody going in/out). I think its because SH doesn’t wanna lose face about what happened. If that’s the case, then its understandable why GTY couldn’t bring up the issue. Also old madam has stepmother statement about Aunt Kang just went to the courtyard to help with the fire (I assume nobody knows that she was actually under arrest for poisoning grandma). And GTY killed her. I think this is also why ML apologised to GTY that her family brings him so much trouble. 

    @shihuangdi  I think in order to save GTY ML is going to rip the masks off Old Lady Wang and the rest of them probably with the help of those Shu daughter since the old bat is claiming she's innocent.. Those Shu daughters can paint a pretty picture of Aunt Kang right along with the rest of the concubines with all the dead women bodies that have came out of her home..  

    I can;t believe they want compensation for her death with all the evidence of her killing people because she married a bad poerson that she choose.. So it's everybody fault and they all supposed to give her..


    8 hours ago, minglan1 said:

    Clever madam Wang had to end up with 2 muddled daughters.She should be cursing fate to not have given her a smart girl like ML instead.

    It's Karma for Old Lady Wang, She done some bad deeds to some not so intelligence people and it came back on her own children

    Wait GTY is supposed to save the Emperor again and regain his title how is this supposed to happen for him if he get's exiled and become a foot soilder.?



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  18. 16 hours ago, Jackie1048 said:

    Auntie Kang's husband was not involved in the negotiation of the poison incident because if he knew he will divorce Auntie Kang for sure.

    @Jackie1048  Of course he would have divorce her, It seems to me that he's looking for a good enough reason to divorce her.. One would think the selling of his children would be enough guess not.. With Auntie Kang having the finale say in the Shu daughters marriages.. I thought ML should have brought all the money she has rip off BMain Mother (Danning) and how she tried to have one of the Shu daughters kill herself in her home all so she could sue her husband for money.. 


    8 hours ago, matrim said:

    Have to applaud Old Madam Wang, another master manipulator, whose silver tongue not only confused SH, but almost caused ML to lose ground

    @matrim  Yes by looking at that scene one could tell she was loosing ground.. Sh should be slap, I still don't see how he made it to be a court official dumg as he is.. No wonder he and Danning or a perfect match they both easly manipulated.. ML had to que him in on the matters before he even entered the hall.. Also she gave him expanations of what they would say and do if not for her he wouldn't have a clue as to what to do.. Also I could see why Aunt Kang hates concubine born children.. Big Mdm must have really talk bad in front of her about them and may have some choice words and ideas for Aunt Kang about all the Shu daughters her husband bore that old Mdm and brother had to help her take care of them due to her lousy husband..   I mean they really look down on concubine children telling ML she hsd no right to be there or speak.. Happy to see SH speak up for concubine born children being he's also one which make me think they talked bad about him also behind his back..


    8 hours ago, Lunkera said:

    @dito Probably because one wrpng move can cost him his status or even his life. If ED is after GTY, she won't spare his relatives most likely, doesn't matter that they are against him. In those eras it was safer and better to pull the weed of by it roots.

    you explained it right in point @Lunkera  ED would have killed them all and the new born of ML.. ED isn't stupid she don't want any trouble to come back and bite her in the rear.

    7 hours ago, leeza77 said:

    OH a handsome lil fella

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