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  1. Can anyone recommend kdrama with cold, cruel, heartless, rebellious, shameless, stubborn, strong female lead like Jang Manwol? 

     

    Been watching kdrama for the last 10 years only find The Innocent Man and Hotel Del Luna match this criteria.

     

    I'm not saying physically strong like Mr Sunshine or Strong Women Do Bong Soon, although those are good too, but I want the female lead that's CRAZY enough to go all the way to love or revenge and doesn't mind to die together, like Jang Man Wol at first, although she give up on revenge in the end after find out the truth.

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  2. 14 hours ago, RiceGirl1212 said:

     

    They explained in episode 15 I think that the Moon Spirit Tree will take whatever is left of the spirit of the person who comes to the Moon Inn harboring resentment and drinks the Moon Tree liquor to become the next owner. 

     

    The spirit is literally trapped in the Moon Tree. Neither granting the person life nor allowing them to move onto the afterlife. So they sort of stuck between realms. I think MW preferred to say she was human as she was so tied to the Earth with her deep resentment.

     

     

     

    They have been releasing the bts for each episode so I would hope they release one last bts of 15 and 16 filming.

    Thank you for reply, yes I just knew it only after watching ep 15, but what I don't understand is why is her time is limited until the next full month? Why she can't stay longer?

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  3. The ending left me speechless, I don't necessarily feel sad, but I just felt so empty, I always thought it's happy ending, I misunderstand MW hasn't died thinking her time is only frozen and will continue after all.

     

    But is there any explanation why MW have to leave on full moon? Can't she just remain as a ghost and live with CS for a while?

     

    Also, if they are going to make reincarnation ending, why not just make it real instead of just an imagination:frown:

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  4. 2 hours ago, lollyminx said:

    What is up with that preview. :blink: Noooo, don't tell me CS will do something risky just to get MW back :(

     

    Waaaaaaait! I have a theory. In episode 14, Mago said something about CM coming back to stay with MW as a firefly right, and that MW could have just called CM's name and he would have appeared. 

     

    What if after MW comes back to the real world, she's not MW but something else too (like a firefly, something else?) and CS just has to call her name to see her? 

    CM became firefly after he died, but MW is still alive

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  5. To be honest, I can see why people favoring CM, his love story with MW is more DRAMATIC (this is why people watch drama), heart breaking and the most heart fluttering moment is right before people start dating, People are curious how will they face obstacles such as status and duty, what happened in the past and what makes MW become evil.

     

    CS and MW love story is COMMON it happened in REAL LIFE, less drama, more REALISTIC, unconditional, comfortable, spending time with each other and fall in love. But I never knew when CS and MW acknowledge loved each other, they gave me impression they are going to deny they loved each other and still teasing each other then one day they just confessed their love without any hesitation, which is surprising and I honestly felt awkward and cringe a lot when they confessed their love.

     

    People already know they are going to date anyway. And I never worried it will have sad ending since the beginning, because they give off romcom vibe that's rarely have sad ending base on my experience:grimace:

     

    I'm not saying CS and MW don't have chemistry, their story are made less dramatic and focus more on the ghost story instead of their love story, it's normal some people feel pity for CM because of their situation. And CS crying on ep 14 makes my heartache, I can really feel he is so lonely without MW.

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  6. 30 minutes ago, diane90 said:

    For me, CM did nothing wong, he did his job, he recieved orders to control rebels and MW was a rebel

    with her troop ! I like IU's acting in this drama but I don't like MW !

    People say... she is like Goblin female version .. I don't agree !

    Kim Shin ( Goblin) killed many people not bc he wanted but bc he received the King's orders !

    even he killed ennemies to protect his country but as God said " everyone are chidren of God"

    many people prayed of God to save Kim Shin but God punished him finally !

     

    It's different for MW.. she killed people for stealing, for her greed; she wanted killing 

    she didn't recieve orders, she was the chief; it's MW who gave orders to kill !

    So if CM arrested MW and her troops ... a captain arrested rebels........it's normal !

    In the present CM is Police and MW is gangster ( before she stole living people"s money

    and now she steals from the deaths....you see, even CS doesn't like the way she takes money

    from the death)

     

    Honestly, over 1 thousand years, she doesn't change at all her characters.... cruel, evil 

    sorry, I said about MW not IU... hope you'll understand)

    I don't know who loves who more... CM acceped to become a firefly more than 1 thousand years

    while he could go to the after life, just to stay beside the one he loved......I'm very touched !

     

    Btw, in all Hong sister's dramas; the second male lead are always the GOOD guys but

    as always ...girls love the bad guys hahahaha !

    I think MW never killed anyone until her people died and she goes crazy to kill whoever, as for the thief part it's bad but considering the status in the past, people were never being treated fairly, some people were born as princess and have power and money, some are slave, and I think MW are few that is brave enough to lead a thief/rebels group. Like Hong Gil Dong, he is known as hero although he is a thief.

     

    But I do think the captain didn't actually do something bad, it's just his situation is really bad. He wanted to join MW as rebels, but he got busted so he has to choose between kill all of his followers (who never know anything) or YW's people (who really steal something) and promised won't die and live like a traitor until MW survive. I also believed he married the princess knowing MW will use this chance to revenge. And he is so happy when he saw MW on the wedding dress T.T

     

    I always wonder what will happen if MW agree to elope with him the night he asked, maybe all of this won't end so cruel.

     

    As for MW moving on with CS, I have always question, DOES OUR FEELING CHANGE? OR WE ACTUALLY NEVER LOVED THEM?

     

    Perhaps the bridge scene is necessary so MW can erase all CM memories so she can fully love CS.

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  7. I'm kind of confuse

     

    CM to YW: I came to quell the rebels, I will try my best so you can survive as a slave, but for me to do so, all of your men must be killed as rebels

    YW to CM: forget about it, instead of saving me, just live as a traitor to save MW

     

    So did CM really killed all of YW's men? Or he just killed YW and lived as traitor but saved all YW's men?

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  8. 20 minutes ago, DreamCatcher2011 said:

    No, please no. She will forget everything, including Chansung. :bawling:

    I'm sure she won't, she promised CS she will keep him in the last memory in previous ep, and it's not easy to erase all her memories since she has been living for 1300 years.

     

    But I didn't expect the closure is so simple, I thought it's supposed to be in ep 15, MW hold SO MUCH GRUDGES for 1300 years, and it just went like ..... JUST LIKE THIS???..... maybe I need to see full subtitle to understand it.

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  9. 5 hours ago, laola said:

    So i have binged watch HDL in the last two 3 days so might be missing a few details. But I cant for the life of me understand why every one on my twitter tl is going gaga over CM and why CS is so much under praised or people think he is boring or have no passion. In my personal opinion i find CM a bit annoying since the beginning. I find selfish and self serving and i still dont understand why everyone MW considered family had to die and even if they why did he think MW would be okay with it or did he think she would appreciate being left alive while watching her people die. I dont understand his thought process. He then decides to die in the most selfish way. Chooses to remain as a firefly while robbing MW a chance of resolution. I would have sympathised with him more if mago kept him that way in order to protect MW from going full evil. But he chooses this himself and in past 1000+ never realised that him not letting go is hurting MW because since he cant reincarnate MW cant find peace. Also the body switch is weird because if he just wanted to talk with MW there would be no misunderstanding he could just tell her the truth and leave but from the preview it seems like he chooses to hang around in CS

     

    I don't think CM is overrated, everyone is hating him here, but I'm ok with both CM and CS, each of them has different love story,  with CS is more like romantic comedy and with CM it's more like bittersweet love story with some mysteries and unlike MW and CS which both have confirmed they loved each other we all just wait for room 404 scene and more skinship and what is the ending which I don't dare to hope too much.

     

    And the CM one, there are regrets and misunderstanding that hasn't been solved, like scarlet heart ending, everyone is still heartbroken, that's why I'm still curious what really happened, they haven't revealed the scene when CM was waiting for her in the lake. 

     

    I think the writer is trying to portray CM is the first love, boyfriend material (someone you have crush on, but you are both probably still young and MAYBE it's not true love just romantic attraction), and CS is the last love that is mature, about understanding each other, comfortable that is like husband material.

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  10. 1 hour ago, annamchoi said:

    I think MW lived because CM made a deal..that let her lived in return CM will marry the princess.I feel that all along the princess was in love with CM .the princess somehow knew that CM has fallen in love with MW.in a flashback on ep 12 YW in a voice over told CM that he should just betrayed her so  that can MW 's life be spared .

    I feel the princess doesn't know CM REALLY fell in love to MW, CM might lie to the princess in the lake scene saying he just used MW to capture all of the thieves, that's why she said MW help him score a big goal, hence she let her free.

     

    If that's what happened in the lake, CM must be really really smart to be able to make such an excuse in a short time.

     

    It can also explain why the princess and CM are smiling to each other on the wedding night, because the princess doesn't know he loved MW. They have no reason to look happy if she knew she is marrying a man who doesn't love her.

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  11. 8 hours ago, lollyminx said:

    Hey @stroppyse! It hasn't been explicitly shown why CM had to betray MW, but there's a voice over in the  brief flashback in Episode 12 when Mago and the GR were talking by the tree. In the VO, you'll hear YW tell CM that he has to keep the facade of betraying her to save MW or something like that. I don't know if this will be explained later on or the show will let viewers assume. My guess is CM had to pretend he just used MW because if the princess finds out he fell in love with her, the princess will execute MW. 

    I guess YW knew MW will give up her life because all of them died because of her, so he told CM to pretend to be the bad guy and CM choose to marry the princess to make it worse, so MW can stay alive in order to revenge for them.

    YW might think even MW know CM didn't betray her, she will never become happy because of guilt. So he told him to be the bad guy instead so at least MW can survive.

     

    Can someone explain why 4th MG said MW is wicked? and How the life line surgery work? Are they cutting the skin and sew it on the child palm?

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  12. 1 hour ago, realistic2280a said:

    Before i go to sleep... just wanna say, great that GCS's IG is gaining traction and have over 1500 followers now... it maybe difficult to catch up with full moon's but at least its gaining popularity. 

     

    Cant wait to see the sub episode tmr.

     

    Good night everyone! Sweet dreams! :)

    How do we know if that's his real ig?

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  13. 52 minutes ago, Ellander88 said:

     

    Because if she is a human, that defies the reason turning into ashes when she harm a human. A human harming another human will get wordly punishment, not becoming a target by 4th Mago who can't wait to turn her into ashes. Only a spirit who lingers in the world and harming human in the process will be vanished.

     

    I forget where I saw in a teaser, she said "I just existed" I believe she is a human that her time stopped and she can't die even if she want to because she has some super power, and I believe 4th Mago was referring that she will become evil spirit after she died.

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  14. 2 minutes ago, Ondine said:

     

    The grim reapers should have bought the Dyson that Chansung was advertising. :lol:

     

    Here's the recap of episode 9 on Dramabeans: http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/08/hotel-del-luna-episode-9/

     

    The writer is thoroughly convinced that Chansung is Smirkalot reincarnated. :vicx: I haven't seen any other Hong sisters show but they seem to have a reputation for doing their shows dirty, and that plot twist would certainly qualify. :lol:

    I just saw the firefly shadow pic on ig, and and always thought the shadow is in front of the window, but is it possible that is actually CS's shadow?

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  15. 6 hours ago, Linwe said:

     

    Noooo!! I need his smirkaliciousness! :tears: What if he's hiding a not-dead YW somewhere like he originally promised MW once before?! Squishy can't be evil! Besides, I want to see two badasses go at it! Gah, next week show... next week you better have some answers...

    I wonder will CM reincarnation appear, isn't the firefly CS see is him? I also believe he is not evil, hopefully there is another plot twist that even MW didn't know. Why they stop telling the past story in the halfway such a cliffhanger

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  16. 25 minutes ago, uglypearl said:

    I am late. not as late as previous episodes (I fell asleep as usual and I am also bit not feeling well).

    I only get to watch few scenes. But I found this twitter pic of YW  in present time.  (credits to the owner)

     

    OMG I don't even recognize him, YW became so handsome with short hair hahahaha

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  17. 1 hour ago, Ellander88 said:

     

    He might be the friend that will come as vengeful spirit as described in GCS's character description in the first page of this thread:

     

    "Also, while working at the Hotel De Luna and experiencing interesting events... There comes an uninvited and unwelcome guest who Woo Chan Seong had missed. The closest friend he's ever killed.

    "My friend now that you've killed me, are you happy by yourself now? His friend is back as revengeful spirit!"

     

     

    I think the friend think CS is the cause of him losing his life? (figuratively speaking).

    But I wonder too... what happened between him and his friend. :blink:

    Waitttt, what if that friend is YW reincarnation? Similiar things happened like in the past which cause him killed his friend, does it make sense?

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  18. Is there any explanation, why the princess said "thanks to you all your gang member is being killed" they can just capture all of them without luring MW to that lake right?

     

    And how CM said thank you for letting me buy some time, why he has to wait for so long to capture all of them?

     

    I keep replaying the scene when the captain said "should i go to you instead?", i feel like he is waiting for her to just say A WORD, like a word is enough, in which she said don't T.T. Is the captain already knew they are going to capture them, that's why he wanted to elope with MW? and told MW to go to palace so she doesn't get captured?

     

    I feel like CS is really CM, since MW told him to save Mira, it's your job (like captain), and if they are different person, why the writer give them the same surname?

     

    If Sanchez is YW, then all of this make sense, but why they use the same actor for the princess though?

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  19. 50 minutes ago, brielover said:

    I am trying to figure out what's so special about MW that she's received unique treatment from MaGo.  Ma go herself calls her a little human so even though MW symbolism is based on moon goddesses, we know she is not a goddess (unless she had done that Chinese God cultivation thing of becoming a human for a stretch of years with no memory of being a goddess?).  She can do superhuman things now like shoot from her hands and move things around and telepor t.

     

    I've been wondering lately if she isn't a Hong Gil Dong figure.  In the Hong sisters' previous Hong Gil Dong drama, HGD was the leader of bandits, stole from rich to benefit poor, and began an incipient democracy hidden away in a secret mountain valley.  His bandits were completely loyal to him.

     

    MW neither past nor present has shown signs of being a HGD type, but is that because we haven't seen much of her past?  Why would her men have followed her even after death?

    I think Mago symphatized her, and do not wish her become evil spirit and vanished, so she gave her a chance to meet princess again and hoping she will make difference here. 

     

    And I think it's also because she want to comfort the dead one, so Mago made her a hotel to comfort dead soul?

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  20. 14 minutes ago, moomooz said:

    I wonder if CM knows that the princess kill all of MW’s gang? Was he being forced to married so that princess will not harm MW? Was that the exchange and MW misunderstood his feelings and she killed him in the end ? 

    I really hope so, it's just soooo weirddd, unless CM is acting so good in the drama, we still haven't see how she killed him, and the captain looks like he expected it and just let her killed him:(

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