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  1. Me, too. I keep thinking that BK at least suspects the truth, and wonder what he’s like when he’s not “in character”. I won’t be able to watch the episode until much later, so I’ll be checking here for updates. I hope DO stands firm on ending the engagement. Go self actualization!
  2. Translation of the preview ND: Are you going some place far away? Woman 1: There is going to be a big feast in celebration. Woman 2: We thought we coulf go have fun and make some trouble. Madam: Haven’t you thought whether your work is going to cause some fallout? Madam: You need to hurry, every hour counts! If you find them, tell them they might be in danger. Head Assasin: Widow Kim? ND: Madam sent me. ND Father: What are you planning? It’s been a long time (since we’ve seen each other). DJ: I think I can leave now. ND: Don’t go. I said don’t go! DJ: I said not to neddle, didn’t I? ND: I’m going to continue to meddle, so...don’t go. @triplem, or any other moderator, Would you mind taking the insta preview from within the quote and putting it outside the quote? I’m having some difficulties. I haven’t watched the episode yet because I’m traveling, but saw the clips of the kiss. Not to mention the topless ND. ND is totally enamored with DJ, and I don’t thnk DJ was unaffected. Wondered what YM is going to do, if he knows that Widow Kim is actually a man. Can’t wait to watch properly and to see the next episode. In the preview, I do rather enjoy watching ND fight.
  3. Wow, that is a very pretty place, especially with the low hanging fog. @LavelyShai, agree with your sentiments, and I was really happy with ep 6, so can’t wait to see the next episode.
  4. I appreciate your sentiments and had a chuckle at the Jasper Fforde novels. I love his books, but wouldn't have thought to equate it to this drama! Once you mentioned it though, I had to laugh in recognition. This drama did struggle with balancing its tone. Teenage gang rape and subsequent suicide are heavy topics, and actually, I thought Dong Ha did an excellent job with his role in this drama, and his scenes were initially creepy, but actually moved me with pity and a bit of horror once the truth was finally revealed. The murder mystery was definitely in another plot universe though from the romance. Still, I thought JCW and NJH did a great job with the comedy of their romance and the tension of the murder mystery. Plus, both of them are so excellent at hitting emotional notes. In some ways, I appreciated that the comedy and romance softened such a hard topic though, and wondered if it would have been broadcast to any significant audience, or even at all, without the softening that probably made it more palatable to the viewing public. And, kdramas tend to like all of their material, even the comedies with touches of the tragic, the profane, and other serious flaws with the human psyche and subsequent actions and consequences.
  5. @midorinokerochan , I’m just happy that they are not live shooting. It’s one of the things I like least about kdramas, that sooner or later, they end up having to liveshoot episodes, and thus everyone not getting enough rest. Anyway, I think it’s fairly common to shoot out scenes out of sequence and then put it together in editing. Even though a set may not be a special location shooting, it is still easier to group scenes by location convenience rather than scene sequence.
  6. I didn't see/read the interview, but if I had to guess I would say that ND may end up giving a reluctant YM a peck. At least, there is that scene in the preview where ND seems to be backing YM up to a tree. I would be surprised if it was DJ and YM because that's messing too much with poor YM's one-sided crush. And, AD is still a child, so couldn't imagine that she would have a kiss scene, no matter how cutely framed with ND who she's calling "husband" already. Actually, the other funny kiss scene could be AD and DJ. Given that AD seems to be sleeping with DJ, AD could turn over and kiss DJ thinking that she's kissing ND? Anyway, I'm looking forward to tomorrow's episode.
  7. Unfortunately, no, I wouldn't recommend that you watch it. The thing you might like best about the drama may be the second leads. Seriously, it does slide pretty frequently into slapstick, especially in the initial episodes, there are pretty tragic second lead stories, the plot is still a bit thin at this point though building. It is quirky, though, which you might like. If you don't have anything else to watch, then you could try it. But, if you have other stuff to do, I would give it a pass. There are other dramas airing and about to air that might be more entertaining for you. Having said that, I do love the chemistry between the lead characters as portrayed by Ji Chang Wook and Won Jin Ah. Their romance is slowly starting to happen without them even realizing it. +2
  8. Episode 2 brief recap in the spoiler Thoughts about the episode. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit once I stopped trying to compare it to the US version, so I'll minimize mentioning the US version in this thread from now on. Bringing LTJ's loss of his son into the present time line changes a lot about LTJ's motivations. And, it seems that the team keeps going to try to find the Big Bad who caused all of the events in these first 2 episodes to happen in the first place. I assume that while they do that, they will also help some other people as well. All of the characters are very human and very flawed. LTJ is a brilliant planner, but his emotions involving his son cloud his judgement, as might be expected. I think we're going to be seeing LTJ descending into his private hell before somehow climbing back out in order to lead his team. The relationship between LTJ and HSK is interesting. HSK is a scam artist that LTJ has captured in the past, and she hasn't forgiven him for that. Apparently, his capture of her and subsequent arrest caused HSK to miss an important audition. Though, HSK is not a good stage actress. She's really a gifted scam artist, able to improvise to keep the scam going as she needs to. However, despite their history, it's clear that LTJ and HSK have formed a friendship, of sorts, and that they both appreciate each other, even if they don't agree. GNB and JUS still need some settling down, I feel. Their relentless bickering is actually a bit tiring, and I hope that they'll show something that shows why they have been able to establish a working partnership, of sorts. Individually, though, both of the characters are pretty cute. GNB is the physical one, JUS is not physical but a whiz at computers. RR has mostly been stoic, lethal and chiseled. He looks amazing, but hasn't really been given that much to do as yet. I assume that it's coming. However, he projects a hardness and an aloofness that serves him well, not to mention, he seems to be the most controlled and least emotional member of the team. So, I couldn't find the preview video, but here is a translation for the preview to the next episode. LTJ to Bad Guy: Even using my child, why did you do that? Bad Guy to LTJ: You and I, we’re just pawns on the board. We don’t determine how we move. HSK: How long are you going to be like this? Become the rude Lee Tae Joon that you used to be before! RR: Given the scale of the incident, there is no way that that guy could have pulled it off himself. US: What is all this? HSK: He looks like a connected guy. It’s too much for us to handle by ourselves. Man: Go ahead and try as hard as you can. There is no way that you’ll win. LTJ: You wait and see. What you did, I’ll make you pay for it.
  9. I understand why you bailed after ep 2. If I didn't like both leads as much as I do, I would have as well. It does get better though. I really liked the most recent episode. 516
  10. Some brief thoughts on the first episode with spoilers in the spoiler. This drama is slick and action-packed. This first episode was mostly set up, as we meet 4 of the 5 members of the team. Also, it deals with LTJ's motivation to go from someone who catches criminals to someone who masterminds a crime. GNB isn't as proficient as Parker, but she is pretty feisty with a smart aleck mouth. KSR looks amazing as GNB.
  11. This is an interesting analysis, and I would mostly agree with you, but with one caveat. And, that is marriage and children. Marriage and children subvert this order somewhat actually, since your partner and your children move to the head of the priority line. It does not mean that you owe any less duty to your parents or other relatives, but that the priority order has changed. I do realize that this is a relatively modern subversion. In the Joseon era, a man's duty to one's parents, especially if they come from a more affluent family, trumps everything else. Note, I say "man's duty" because it wasn't true for women. Wives, once they entered their husband's households, would seldom see their own family if at all. Kdramas tend to drag out the filial duty aspects, I think. My mother thinks it may be to combat the current situation because modern Korean society has swung too far the other way with filial duty not being prominent enough to people. So, being a "good" person means filial piety to an extreme. Anyway, WRT this drama, GH has a child now, so her first duty should be to her child, and not to her parents. I think issues of filial duty conflicting with one's other relationships is a fair enough topic to tackle. However, not telling SW about her illness is not a prioritization of duty issue. It has to do with what is fair and appropriate to her child and to her lover. Also, I don't think it is about GH's conflicts with her filial piety in this final stretch, and I blame these final lackluster episodes on the extension. It feels as if they're literally just throwing things in to stretch out the episodes to make their episode count. They've already used the trope of SW being kept in the dark, though GH having leukemia is new. However, having a lead character develop a serious illness is a well-used fallback trope for kdramas as it is. Anyway, thanks for the analysis. It was a good read.
  12. It took me a second as well to recognize her! KSR and RMR were brilliant as competing doctor panelists! And, yes, I love the segment. It also segued well into the issues that DC is having with his newfound fame. This fame is different from his fame before. Before, he was known for being a genius producer, so highly respected and in his chosen field. This time around, it's as much a freak show as anything. Plus, even his own family is taking advantage of his fame to make some dosh. I hope the ratings are good for this drama as well. I think this drama is finally starting to hit its stride. It's still not incorporating the big evil into the overall plot that well, but I remember that is a weakness with this writer anyway. Mostly, though, I'm still watching because I think the chemistry between the two leads is really good, and because both leads are handled by actors who act very well. I like their interpretations of their characters, though it struck me that for both of them, their roles are safe roles that they've done before. DC reminds me in a lot of ways of JCW's character in Suspicious Partner, and MR has echoes of WJA's character in Just Between Lovers. Fortunately, I loved both of those dramas, and those roles in those dramas, so I'm willing to see where this drama will take them. I think both JCW and WJA are able to handle their respective characters with respect, balancing out the humor as well as all of their emotions and conflicts.
  13. Preview translation for ep 7 MR: At least he had a girlfriend before he was frozen. What about me?! (meaning how she had no one, including possibly no marriage prospects since there is the age thing with her legal and biological age being different and may be hard for potential partners to deal with) DC: From now on, TV variety programs are going to be different! Because Ma Dong Chan has returned! DC: Why is your pulse racing all of a sudden? Were you fluttering? (meaning whether MR had become excited to see DC) MR: What is he saying? Is he a player or what? HY: So that you’re not in danger ever again, I’ll protect you. JE: Noona, you’ve dated before, haven’t you? And, have been in a “some”? (a "some" is a meaningful flirtation between a couple who are interested in each other, but before they officially start dating) MR: Have you had a “some” before? (seems to be speaking to DC) DC: Help me so that I can protect myself. Starting with Go Mi Ran. (I translated this line this way, because this may be a response to HY's statement earlier about protecting DC. It's a bit hard without more context and the Korean standard of not using pronouns.) Episode 6 was very cute, for the most part. DC and MR are definitely attracted to each other. DC is over HY, and in episode 6, DC even tells HY that he doesn't want to find out more about her even for fear that it'll tarnish the image that he has of the person that she was back then. That's his only way of protecting the love that they had felt for each other. While, HY is the one who wants to start again. She starts to wear the couple ring that he had given her again, and lets him know at the end of the episode, that it's meant to signify that their relationship isn't over yet since their love isn't finished yet. However, I think that DC will try to let her down gently at the start of episode 7, possibly saying that he's in danger right now and doesn't want to continue with HY. That's speculation, though. MR was already aware that DC is good looking, but she's becoming more aware of him as a man. She can't help but be touched and grateful with how he looks after her, though she also clearly finds it a little frustrating that he's so protective. Still, she's feeling lost in this world that she's woken up to, and DC is the only other person who knows how she feels, and is able to provide her with what she needs, even when she might not be aware of it, for instance, the smart watch that monitors her vital signs. It's not just gratitude that MR feels, however. She's also becoming attracted to DC. The comfortable, bickering relationship that they've established with each other has also led to an intimacy between the two of them without either of them perhaps totally aware of it. The shared glass of ice water, so casually done and received, definitely gave me an "OMO!" moment. I think that next episode, MR becoming aware that DC had had a serious gf in HY, one who is the station's top announcer at that, is going to become a bit jealous as well. Even though her words in the preview may be about her own prospects, or lack thereof, I think what she's really feeling is jealousy. And, I'm really curious about the kiss at the end of this preview. It seems as if MR is the one to kiss DC who may have been caught off guard since his eyes are open and stay open. I'm curious to see how the kiss comes about so fast. Hope it's not another imagination sequence or anything like that. I do rather love DC and MR together.
  14. So funny how DC takes MR's cup of ice water from her and drinks from it, and then gives it back to her to drink. It's such an intimate act actually. It speaks a lot to how DC thinks about MR. And, MR accepts it back as well. Also, cute how DC gets jealous at the police station. He goes from lecturing MR about how she shouldn't beat men up to yelling at BS himself once MR tells DC that both "men" that he saw her beat us was the same guy, her ex-bf. Once he finds out about what BS had been saying to MR, DC tells MR that she should beat BS up more thoroughly. Then DC is so upset that he goes to warn BS and tells him that he'll kill him if BS harasses MR ever again. When BS asks what right DC had to speak for MR, DC says that he has responsibility for MR's life. And, then when DC walks out, he very naturally grabs MR by the wrist. Not a fan of the wrist grab actually, but it was still cute in the scene. And, DC as Captain Korea! Even as Captain America had been frozen and brought back to life, now DC is Captain Korea gone through the frozen period as well. LOL Also, the age debate/argument between Kim Su Ro and Ra Mi Ran about what age DC should be considered. Not to mention, MR calling in to that talk show to put on a defense of DC and how the issue isn't what age he should be considered, but what he's going to be doing with his life. What jobs he can get and who he could marry. And, then it turns out that she was complaining about her own situation. This episode has a number of funny moments.
  15. Ohmygosh, cutie Ji Eun who has the crush on MR is the son of her friend and her ex-bf Byung Shim! Plus, it seems that the people around MR are figuring out pretty quickly that she must have been a frozen human as well.
  16. Just starting to watch the episode now. And I love the start of the episode. DC uses the broadcast to announce that he is the first human to be resuscitated after being frozen for 20 years. He announces that he is the only participant of the experiment, and that there is a weird side effect from the experiment in that his body temperature has to be 31.5 C in order for him to continue to live. He is going to continue to work on the experiment further to figure out how to correct this weird effect. With this announcement, DC is trying to protect MR from the bad guys who are after him to get Dr. Hwang. And, he is also conveying information that MR, her doctor, and her family need in order to be able to support her body temperature requirements. And, after those announcements, DC goes to the hospital just to watch MR go home with her family. MR notices DC going though. Awwww.... Also, it turns out that Dr. Hwang had figured out how to compensate/correct for the lowered body temperature effect. However, Dr. Hwang is the only one who knows the information. But given that they can't wait for Dr. Hwang to come to his senses, DC intends to pursue the solution himself. A funny bit, Kim Jong Eun watching from North Korea comments how if only they had known about the experiment a little earlier, his father could have been frozen as well.
  17. I really like the previews for this drama. I think it captures the fun, and has laugh out loud moments. [Confusion] ND: What are you doing?! How dare you interfere! [Destruction] AD: Husband! ND: My Lord! My Lord! Just a moment! [Forgetfulness] ND: My Lord DJ: Ay, how could I dream such a ridiculous dream? I had a chuckle when ND seemingly makes a play for YM. I assume it's both to help his cover of being a widow, but also to keep YM from following DJ around like a puppy. But, the really funny moment for me is when ND and DJ are sleeping right at the end of the clip, and DJ wakes up laughing at having had such a ridiculous dream, and then AD's hand plops onto her neck. I wonder how ND is going to keep AD from claiming him as her husband and thus her property. The BGM on the YT previews also seem to be different than the previews at the end of the episodes. In this preview, the song playing as BGM is a cover of The Beatles "Come Together". The original BGM in the preview episode was nice, but the preview clip song actually heightened the humor and the surreality and ridiculousness of the scenes for me.
  18. A lengthy recap of episode 5 under the spoiler. Translation of this video preview: MR: Even looking at him from afar, I can totally tell. So, what’s the point of trying to act nonchalant. DC: You think that they really don’t know who ordered them to do this? HY’s reporter colleague: What if we make the report first? MR: I’m going to definitely become a proper employee. DC: I’m going to take care of her to the end. I have a responsibility to Go Mi Ran’s life. DC: If you mess around with Go Mi Ran one more time, I’ll totally kill you! BS: You! HY: We need to try again from that point. Our love isn’t completely over after all. HY: I’ll wait for you. The preview at the end of the episode had a couple of minor changes, so I'm just giving the translation of the preview from the end of the episode as well, since I wrote it up as I was watching it. MR: Even looking at him from afar, I can totally tell. So, what’s the point of trying to act nonchalant. DC: You think that they really don’t know who ordered them to do this? HY’s reporter colleague: What if we make the report first? MR: I’m going to show you my skills and definitely become a proper employee. HY: Have you thought of why PD Ma Dong Chan is taking such good care of that experimental subject? DC: I’m going to take care of her to the end. I have a responsibility to Go Mi Ran’s life. DC: If you mess around with Go Mi Ran one more time, I’ll kill you! BS: You! HY: We need to try again from that point. Our love isn’t completely over after all.
  19. I don't see episode 5 showing up anywhere, e.g. Viki and others, where they normally post. I was wondering if it had been cancelled as well. So, I went looking for clips and saw episode 5 up on the tvN site, however, the videos won't play in my region. Here is a translation for the text preview for ep 6 anyway. “I am the world’s first frozen human being, Ma Dong Chan” In order to save Mi Ran who has collapsed, Dong Chan reveal himself to the world. At the report of frozen humans, the world is in an uproar, and Go Mi Ran safely wakes up. While this is happening, Byung Shim becomes certain that the woman who looks like Mi Ran is actually Mi Ran, and goes to Mi Ran again. However, Mi Ran already knows that he had married Young Seon. Ultimately, a rough wind begins to blow… (this last line means that it’s going to get loud and messy) It seems episode 6 may be more about MR dealing with her past friendships and relationships. edit: It just loaded on Viki, so I had better go watch it.
  20. LOL. For a second there, I had to check the thread header to see if I was in the drama thread or the shipping thread.... Anyway, I have to say that I'm charmed by this drama as well. ND is a very pretty man. When he's dressed as a woman, there is a touch of masculinity to him, but I've seen much more masculine women than him. I wondered if they had to keep showing his six packs to reassure people who aren't familiar with him as an actor that he really is a hot young man, and not just a hot young woman. There is enough drama and mystery to keep me wondering, mostly having to do with ND's parentage still, but other things. But, it is the chemistry and interactions between ND and DJ that keep me engaged. It's a blossoming friendship rather than jumping into a full romance, plus I also rather like how both ND and DJ step in to help each other out of tight spots. And, it is a beautiful drama. While traditional sageuks can sometimes be a little too heavy and melodramatic for me, I'm really appreciating these fusion sageuks.
  21. So true! Especially after DC is going to feel betrayed by everyone that he thought he had been close to, especially HY who he loved and thought loved him. DC is going to feel alone and lost, and his family is of little help to him in their state, though it's true that they love him. But, they're not going to understand what he's been through. MR is the only person who understands what going through the experiment was like, what it felt like to experience a 20 year time jump in a single "day", and their respective side effects from that experiment. MR, in her case, was mostly self-reliant before she was frozen, and her character hasn't changed. However, she's also grappling with the different world that she's woken up to. I thought it was really smart of MR to figure out that she could probably get a job at the broadcast station when she couldn't get a job otherwise due to her "age". The production people are the ones who would definitely know what happened to her, and feel obligated to give her a job, so that she can at least build up some work experience. And, even better, with both DC and MR working at the same place, there will be even more reasons for them to see each other and interact more frequently. That probably wasn't MR's intent, but I'm sure it was the drama writer's intent.
  22. As much fun as this drama is, I have to admit that it's also a bit of a mind puzzle. Trying to keep straight the manhwa world with the staging area of the manhwa world as well as the "real" world of the writer, but all told from the perspective of the characters who have come to realize that they are in a fictional world. I have to say that this is a very different drama from the others I've seen. It helps to laugh, but the mind puzzles are just as engaging as the humor. Plus, knowing that they are fictional characters who are controlled by the writer means that the normal rules of life, death, and memory don't hold. Makes it even more fascinating. I'm trying to keep from reading the spoilers from the webtoon, though not sure how much longer I can hold out... Reading this thread, I've glimpsed enough comments even outside of the spoilers to change my mind in terms of who Jinmichie might be. I thought he was possibly the personification of the writer since he knows so much about the manhwa world, but then I think that perhaps he knows too much about the manhwa world to really be the writer. The actual writer would probably not be aware of the staging areas where characters can revert to their "true selves" versus their "written selves".
  23. I'm totally with you on this one. I'm very excited to finally see DC and MR interacting more with each other. I've been fine with the progression so far since they needed to set up the world, and then bring them back and have them pick up the pieces of their lives. But, now, I want to see them actually interact. Plus, I think that the big bad evil and the political back story may start to make sense now as DC and MR try to find answers about the experiment that they had been in. Anyway, I've really liked the glimpses of chemistry between DC and MR that we've seen thus far. It's the main reason that I've stuck through the starting episodes despite there being serious plot holes.
  24. A grifter is a term for a con artist. And, a translation of the chart items and relationship lines: Center top: Team Leverage LTJ -> HSG I need your help. LTJ <- HSG That incident from 3 years ago! *shaking* LTJ <-> RR Yesterday's combatants, today's colleagues? LTJ -> GNB Double pay! LTJ <- GNB Cool! RR <- GNB His visuals are my style. LTJ -> JUS I need your help 222 LTJ <- JUS This isn't an undercover investigation, is it? GNB <-> JUS Whenever they meet, they bicker. Bottom Left: The person chasing Tae Joon Bottom Right: Tae Joon's people From L to R: Tae Joon's ex-wife, Tae Joon's childhood friend, Tae Joon's trustworthy older brother, Tae Joon's work boss
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