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3 hours ago, uuugogirl said:
No, the law insists that no matter what kind of the relationship is (adoptive or biological, estranged siblings or grew up together), family is family, you can't have a romantic relationship with family members. But some will still excuse that from the scientific point of view, their DNA isn't the same, therefore they can marry and have children.
And Why do we need to keep arguing about whether LLxSR is incest or not when KSO already decided to get rid of that doubt and MSA isn't SR's real child anymore?
It's TRUE that there were people, even on this forum, who kept pointing out that it's weird to ship LL with his adoptive sister's mother. KSO acknowledged it (that's why we had the police's monologue scene) and she solved that problem.I am not aware this is an argument. I thought we are sharing our views here.
As I said I am one of those who do not like SR to be wit LL. Putting aside that I dislike LL's character, I do find it yukky for SR to be involved with her daughter's adoptive brother. However I also object to calling their relationship incest. Incest is a filthy word & does not fit the situation here.
Weird & uncomfortable, yes. Incestual relationship, no.
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Haven't seen the episodes but not liking EJ much. She turned on her family? They did nothing wrong. Mum is a bit off but isn't that the way she is wired? Would the revenge be worth it if in the end all she can say is she accomplished it? Look at step-mom - she lived for revenge and died a lonely death, rejected by her only daughter. Not a great epitaph!
Why take revenge on uni oopa for what HR did? Why take revenge on Disco Oppa for what his father did?
Hope I have misunderstood the posts. Otherwise I need to take revenge on EJ for all the wrong revenge!
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5 hours ago, LightFurie111 said:
That's just your personal point of view. In some countries, you might face charges if you're romantically involved and want to marry your adoptive bro/sister/mom/dad. For example
The majority of the society and the moral code also expect us to do the same thing. Family members (even adoptive ones) are just off the table.
The case you quoted is two people raised as siblings. LL & SR were not raised as family.
There was a kdrama few years ago of a two baby girls who were accidentally placed in the wrong cribs. When it was discovered about 18 years later, they were switched back. The girl who was raised as sister to this boy fell in love. They argued that they are not biologically related. The Korean audience agreed and wanted them to be together.
On 6/20/2021 at 10:40 AM, youactlikeicare said:I don't think it is guilt that is causing his nightmares, its the fact that Logan's body wasn't found. He is paranoid whether he is actually dead or not. Like SSR he is afraid Logan is going to pop up from somewhere and ruin all his plans.
My guess is Logan is not dead, I need to see the dead body on a autopsy table to believe in the death.
I am not sure. I remember one screen where he went berserk when he saw blood on his hands. Yet many times we have seen him look at blood with a smile. Even after hitting EB, he was smiling as he washed off the blood.
I grow tired of all the false identities and fake deaths.
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On 6/20/2021 at 2:46 PM, LightFurie111 said:
Yeah, as much as I like that crazy idea, I think KSO probably just wanted to get rid of the incestuous judgment that some people are still using to go against LogSuryeon. And this is not a western show, so there is no way BRN/ SH involve in this mess (which means no incestuous romance between SSR's adoptive son/"biological daughter")
I don't like the idea of LL & SR together but there is no incest. LL & SR would have to be family for it to be incest,
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5 hours ago, Naty828 said:
I do not understand the boy all this hesitation, I suspect that he considers her only a dear friend but does not want to admit that he is in love with someone that the family would not approve. I am convinced that he is gay, but he wants to hide it, in my opinion he has a love interest for his colleague, whenever he and his girlfriend are together he behaves abnormally uncomfortable, when the colleague asked to be able to have meetings in the dark with some of her friends he was not happy.
In one of the very early scenes between the two doctors, it was quite obvious that the daughter's bf doesn't like his colleague. He told him they were just colleagues, not friends & need not spend time together outside the hospital.
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7 hours ago, Marshi said:
I wonder what actually happened between fake JDT and real JDT's family... Fake JDT seems very upset when he killed JDT parents... And somehow he said "give me my money"?? There's must be still untold story about their past especially the fact that fake JDT got illness with blood? Hope they clarified on next episode...
Yes! Fake JDT killed so many people but only have nightmares about one victim, Logan Lee?
I feel the writer himself\herself is also coming unhinged. Too many fake characters & deaths have a toll on his\her creativity!
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15 hours ago, dzareth said:
Earlier in the series, I've said that at that point both men (Uni & Disco oppa) were not worthy of EJ. Back then I proposed New Mom's bodyguard aka Mr Wang as a potential love interest. But now I'll say that Ms M is unworthy of any of them.
For an avenger, she lacks the resolute. Thus she made many, many errors and flipped the advantage she initially had to her enemies.
I suppose the show wanted to create a cold heroine who was scarred by a past betrayal, but in the revenge process discovered she still has that warmth she thought was long gone, but due to the weak story telling and character development, the heroine ended up like a mad b****h. Because the heroine is so messed up, the villain had to be one dimensional pure evil and every other character became random stupidity.
Too bad. The premise of the show, The Tale of Count Monte Cristo is among the most loved revenge literature available.
I agree! In the end, she should just be with her Mum and litte brother.
Seems like the 2 men also gave up on her - based on what i read in this forum. Uni Oppa apologised to her - when he didn’t have to. He blamed himself that HR’s obsession caused so much pain and suffering to EJ and her family. He let her go to Disco Oppa because he wanted her to have a happy life. Disco Oppa thought to protect Uni Oppa from EJ’S revenge. How about they start up an Oppa company and work together for the rest of their lives!
From the start, when she approached Hoon and gave him the same soft toy HR would recognised and telling Hoon that she is Byeol’s Mum - that shows her level of stupidity. Little kids tell everything to their parents. Step Mum told her that her revenge would only succeed if her identify is revealed after the revenge was completed. But EJ left clues everywhere.
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On 6/13/2021 at 1:44 AM, Lmangla said:
yea I didn't like him in the beginning but now I feel bad for him. I don't think him being a house husband is a failure but it is that this family can't financially afford to have only one earning member. so you have young hye pulling the weight and being rather cranky about it. he tries but then keeps doing stuff to only pile on their debt. so I think it is the financial strain the family is already under that makes being a house husband bad. if he had a successful business, sold it off and retired to be a house husband, it would be different story...
that said, I don't see why he doesn't just find something that plays to his strengths. have posted it before but I keep thinking why he doesn't do a small catering business for niche groups as he seems to be a good cook. at least in my place, we see that a lot now with the pandemic. people have been laid off and so they turn hobbies and try different stuff into small income stream. stuff like selling home cooked meals for senior citizens with health dietary restrictions.
but maybe, more than a job, he first needs to boost his confidence and self-esteem. then he might recover from all those failures from the past and be able to do something with himself that allows him a sense of being a person of worth.
I understand your view but I don’t fully agree, It seems like his worth is only how much bacon he brings home. It is not like they are in dire poverty. and if he was working full-time, in a typical Korean family she would have had to do most, if not all the housework after a hard day’s work. He takes care of everything in the house.
She seems to have favoured and spoilt her so far, fairly useless daughter over her hard-working, responsible son. why? Because daughter has the brains to study and she felt proud to boast about her academic accomplishments. The son dissapoints her because he does not get good grades and is not interested in furthering his academic studies.
She grumbled a lot about how her FIL favoured her dizzy SIL. She said his playing favourites hurt her. But she does the same to her kids.
On 6/13/2021 at 1:56 AM, D27Gjk68 said:I really don't like them, particularly the lazy and selfish daughter, so I'd prefer they have a miserable life and grow to resent each other but I know that won't happen in this type of show.
I fully agree. the girl is lazy and selifh but thinks she is queen bee. Father dotes on her and Mum was forever telling her how she is the only one who made Mum proud.. Has the boy gone to the army yet? He seriously needs to go for extension of military service and toughen up. Now I mostly skip their scenes.
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4 hours ago, admonike said:
I was deliriously happy too when I read that. Enough of her moppy ways and trying to force someone to love you. You take advantage of a man when he is drunk, then you tell him baby is his but you want nothing from him ... when all along you want to be his wife. then you say that is enough but then you want his love. forever not satisfied. forever with the games to try and manipulate him to give you what you want. She is sick and I don’t just mean physically ill.
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IU, the voice and face of an angel.
Kim Tae Hee, effortless grace and dignity.
I started watching kdrama because of these 2 lovely ladies. Don’t really follow celebrities and their lifestyle. Don’t know most of their names. Sorry, am last person to take part in this1
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it’s weird. In S2, JN’s Mum went off on JDT and told him their deal was over - the deal being her husband took the rap for a murder JDT committed. She said that was how they got to live in Hera Place and could afford to send JN to the monster-training school. But now JDT acts as if he is innocent and her husband need to find proof that JDT is the actual killer? JDT’s secretary addressed her husband as ‘boss’ when he got out of prison. Waiting to see why ‘boss’ would have had to take the rap for JDT!
The real JDT is an interesting guy. Far more attractive and interesting than Logan Lee! S3 on the whole to me is rather dull. Only watching now to see what happens with the real JDT.
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On 6/8/2021 at 10:21 PM, Lmangla said:
oh geu roo, did you have to embarrass sang baek during a birthday dinner? seriously? you couldn't have held your tongue and asked him about the loan privately? yea, we know you are cranky as your love life tanked but she and sang goo are not that far apart at times... and sang goo always seems to make things worse with his mouth. why can't he say stuff nicely? how is he successful PD when he is so cantankerous?
Agree. And I didn’t like that it was GE who blabbed about it.
I feel so bad for SB. Now rooting for him to be successful. I don’t mean strike it rich. But find his confidence & self-esteem. It is 2021 so why treat the house husband like he is a complete failure? I mean everyone is so accepting of the children having a baby but they can’t accept that a man can keep house? Obviously he can be charming. We saw that when he visited his wife and step-mom’s workplace. I was thinking a job where he has to interact with customers like frontline staff would suit him.
I have seen GR in other dramas. Usually she’s the happiest, sunny character. Can’t get used to her long face & sour disposition here. Good acting!
the children who are having a baby will be alright in the end but they will have to face some hard times & grow up some.
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I agree with you, @chickfactor.
I think GT will take the fall for money laundering or whatever. Maybe BH would have to represent her & save her.
the idiot detective charged half of Korea with the death of GT’s mum. Now he will charge the other half when he ‘investigates’ the new crime.
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7 hours ago, Marshi said:
The writer seems using Logan character popularity to gain viewer. As I remembered during SSR character died in S1, she's not really use this kind of tactic.
Oh, I had a different interpretation. I thought ‘same old’. SSR was alive but pretended to be NAG. Is Alex really Alex or is he Logan? And sadly the way Alex appeared, I really don’t care if he is Logan or not. Was his appearance supposed to be a comic relief? The whole scene was actually distasteful.
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On 6/3/2021 at 4:30 AM, chickfactor said:
I don't understand Aunt's objection to Ye-Seul. Honestly, look at Gwang-Sik's ex-husband. They somehow allowed Gwang-Sik to marry into that trash family before, and those people are the worst. Not to mention, it's not like Gwang-Sik's family is so posh and high-status. Everyone is just getting by working part-time jobs.
I also thought Gwang-Nam would end up pregnant, but I'm glad she's not. So when she gets back together with her husband, it will be because they love each other, not because of the baby. And I used to feel some sympathy for the husband's mom, but she is getting really creepy, trying to get her son to make a baby with his baby's mom. It's like she's trying to breed farm animals.
They mentioned numerous times that GS' family is a nobel family. But honestly they often act the opposite.
The mum just thinks of herself. She wants grandkids. She doesn't care about her son & what he wants.
8 hours ago, qynn said:Episode 23
Ye-seul and Gwang-sik got back together quickly. I guess their big angst will be when he finds out her aunt was his father's mistress. If I were him, I would have been done for good after basically being called a loser by her aunt and loser sisters.
Maria is SO dumb. Suing Gwang-nam for adultery is not going to make Byun-ho love her and is crazy considering she was the one who had a baby with Gwang-nam's husband. They keep talking about her health and all of the pills she takes. Is she going to die?
So Gwang-nam's CEO dude is running a scam with some woman. I didn't quite understand their conversation. Are they using Gwang-nam because she's an easy mark or because that woman wants revenge for some reason?
Maria is not even a mistress yet she told GN that GN is pathetic to chase after another woman's man. Ha, no mirrors in her flat!
Not sure but there was mention previously that GN upsetted some people in her golf club. She put herself on a pedestal & looked down on them. Guess she is starting to learn humility. She is starting to realize she is no catch & needs a lot of improvement to even be a decent human being in the first place.
I liked the screen of GT & Dad. So he has soft spot for his youngest. the two of them putting up a charade for her to come home makes me change my opinion of her. Starting to like her.
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6 hours ago, LD Lee said:
I believe they did sorta spoiled JDT's end game in the beginning of the episode. He's going to fall to his death.
But with so many fake deaths, how to believe the character dies? Even if last scene of last episode. The writer went overboard with fake deaths so dying scenes are no longer believable. Cried wolf too many times!
And SSR tried to kill JDT when he was in hospital. The police just let her go?
The first episode was like written in drunken stupor.
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Is IS younger than his sister? He is more responsible and level headed. The sister and her husband will find out the hard way what it means to be married and raising kids. Two immature children having a baby. I already feel sorry for the baby.
I think SB will find something he can excel in. I think the trust and confidence step- mom has will bolster him & help him. The wife wants him to have a high paying job she can boast about. And anything else is a loss of face to her. His Dad & 2nd brother look down on him. Only step-mom and IS treat him with respect.
The guyvwho plays JW. have seen him in other dramas. Always a bit stiff so this role is a natural for him.
SM & GE are the only interesting couple to me. But watching more to see how IS' story progresses.
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1 hour ago, chococarmela said:
Penthouse is actually a thriller. It's just extremely makjang, but it's actually categorized as a thriller on most websites.
Logan is alive. He didn't die. There are clips where his character is there. If he is actually dead, rip I guess. Never liked him that much.
Both twins' characterizations are ridiculously flat and I feel like that's another reason why I don't like them.
Also, how the hell is time moving in this episode? There were scenes during prison, then a one month jump, then scenes before and after Logan's "death", and all of a sudden Seojin, Dantae, and Yoonhee got released? Huh??
So like a daily drama plot twist basically? Then she'll remember and go back to get SSR and OYH for revenge...
Given the writer's track record, Logan is very much alive. I agree with you - never liked the guy from the start. I would have respected him if he walked out on his parents for the way they treated MSA. But no, he only scolded them and continued to use his father's money.
It's beyond ridiculous that all of them ended up in the same prison & same cells - the guys and gals - and all released at the same time. CSJ was a good villant but a bad crazy person. Was over the top & too fake.
The writer seems to just want rinse and repeat. Exit one crazy mean gal. So need to resurrect another meanie to replace her! Referring to SK.
In S2, another guy played the role of MR's husband. Though we only had a glimpse of him when she went for a secret conjugal visit. The bald weird looking man turned out to be so handsome & distinguished!
I thought JDT lost everything? How come he still have the psycho secretary and money to bribe people? The prison guard said to Dr Ha that he didn't believe that JDT would stab himself as he would have to be crazy to do so. Stupid people should not be guarding cleverer, more cunning people. And after last season, when we saw that JDT used women to get their money & make himself rich. Well I feel sick when I see his face. The next time they catch him, please castrate him before locking him up.
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"he wanted to leave you 10 years ago but then the Chairman fell ill. So he stayed with you. Can't you see that I am the victim here?" so says the mistress to the wife!
The main problem with this drama is that the wife & the 2 male leads are very bland. The only interesting character is this mistress who can say the stupidest lines with a straight face!
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I don't think it is a matter of taking it too seriously. When the sisters ganged up against the Dad, it was first to pressure him to sign the divorce papers. After the Mum's death, it was to accuse the Dad of murdering him & pressurising him to confess. Not fun & entertaining scenes at all. So glad that the PD has moved on.
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1 hour ago, Lmangla said:
same here; I have been bored with this drama of late. as new mom says, ga heun has been dulled because of sun hyuk. it is like his constipated expressions have passed on to eun joo and so all she does is freeze much like him. ugh! give us the old black eye liner, red suit miss M. instead, new mom has decided to take that wardrobe. must say she looks pretty snazzy as the revenge queen. lesson from daily dramas -- sometimes revenge is best left to the oldies. they don't have room for pesky distractions like a little lost love.
I have stopped watching as it has been rather boring. I get my updates here!
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Koreans use the bed as a dining table. It miraculously never leaves crumbs, attract ants and what have you ...
Even if you live in a mansion & have more rooms than you need, you will bring the visitor to your bedroom - for a discussion. Even if there's no-one else at home! When both of you exit the room you will either find someone standing by the door eavesdropping on your conversation. Or you look guilty as hell and make the person wonder what you and visitor were up to behind closed doors.
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16 hours ago, backstreetboysfan said:
I am so glad that Ye-Seul is okay.
OMG I think GN is pregnant.
I thought she couldn't conceive? Her mother forced her to go for an abortion & end the relationship with the baby's father. The idiot policeman who had arrested half of Korea for her mother's death cited it as a motive for murdering her mother.
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12 hours ago, Sakurafairy said:
Thanks God the sisters know already the true situation about her mother and father. Now they get to appreciate their father's situation more.
For now we'll check out the plot twist regarding the son-in-law, Maria and Gwangnam. The divorce paper is already out shown in the last episode's teaser.
Lol, this is also an issue for me. I don't think, being a married woman myself, a super drunk man like SiL situation in that particular scene would still be able to do some babymaking. A man if they're drunk they cant do stuff like that. Lol, Sorry for this explanation. I think the lies of Maria will be exposed soon.
SiL eomma said this and my prediction is Gwangnam will get pregnant albeit there is issue of womb problem due to abortion in the past.
Btw, So the writer of this is Moon Yeong Nam who penned the Liver or Die drama. I watched already the three dramas in her filmography: Liver or Die, Wang's Family and The First Wives Club. For me she is a good writer.
At first I really hate the sisters and how this drama is going but now I think it gets better.
Apologies in advance for being crude. He can put it up but might not be fully aware who he was with.
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[Drama 2021] Penthouse/War in Life, 펜트하우스
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When I say 'weird feeling" that Is just what it is. It means there is nothing illegal about it. I am not comfortable as in it is not something I would do. Am not sure if it is morally right/wrong so it remains a weird feeling. If you think LL & SR relationship is incestuous, then there shouldn't be any 'doubke in-laws' or 'co-in-laws' in Korea!