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<3 See you all on the S3 thread in the future... I'm also waiting and reading fanfics to overcome the perennial sadness of no more weekly episodes to look forward to
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6 hours ago, Sleepy Owl said:
As for Hanjo's accounting fraud, well it was a very tempting offer. KWC knew that it was a bait, and thus was reluctant, but his assistant was the one who also encouraged him in taking it, either one of the brother-sister would eventually end up leading the company.
I was rewatching the episode to see if I missed anything and this scene here. On this second round, it's reminding me of what Si Mok told CP Kang about the Tongyeong rich couple who had their case expedited and cleared. It's the same, though the end result is the same, the process becomes different. And it will probably lead to OJS thinking that now he has CP Kang on his speeddial whenever these things happen.
Also, can I just also mention, CP Kang has a new watch... And it's not his casual Casio watch from S1, looks expensive. I'm not sure why, but now at the last stretch, I really am a bit worried about the changes in the watches.
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Not only is Dong Jae alive, our dream team got him :'')
Gosh but the preview isn't looking good with Kim Sa Hyun and Woo Tae Ha pissed off with our Si Mok. Pretty sure he's got the right guess, KSH decided to put a spin on the 'propitious' happenings with Dong Jae...
That said, we got our answer - Si Mok didn't get to see CP Kang that morning, so he went in and talked to Oh Joo Sun (and ate the bait) without knowing. Zzz that's not looking good for our CP Kang and HSM senior-junior line. Si Mok looked disappointed and CP Kang looked gutted standing by the window.
Also, did they just kick us at the beginning with Chang Joon's ghost voice calling Yeon Jae, Director Park too looked a bit hmmm...
And the Eun Soo feels :''( Now HSM just needs to think about the one person left in jail for it all to be complete.
But damn, Dong Jae is alive. I all but gave up hope too. Now 2 episodes left, I'm almost dreading the end. Is it too early to ask for season 3? We only got some extra Si Mok and Yeo Jin this season. Two episodes isn't enough time for us to enjoy them to reaching peak teamwork and slam dunk the truth home.
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On 9/21/2020 at 6:41 AM, bedifferent said:
Since last season, Kang tried hard to stay uninvolved, choosing to be bystander in order to survive the political world of prosecutors. I hope he will rise to the challenge, choose a side and become involved, choosing to fight the good fight this time. I don't want SM to be disappointed in his mentor again.
OH oh! After reading that I've stopped. I saw all the good news about Yeo Jin and Si Mok having the long awaiting togetherness friendship scene and everything was alright again.
I have faith in CP Kang, Si Mok will be around to stop him. Back in the start when Si Mok reminded him that Hanjo HQ would be happy with the rebuttal, he looked uncomfortable enough.
Zzz I'll watch ep 12 which I've saved for tonight!! Sorry Dong Jae, but after hearing about YJ and SM scenes, you've fallen to the back of my mind
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8 hours ago, pompyavi said:
ShiMok was at his supreme level today
58 minutes ago, taeunfighting said:This was definitely Shi Mok’s episode. He is so sharp and nothing gets by him
!! Ya'll making me excited for my day to end so I can watch the episode with soju and fried chicken. Last night I went to bed without staying up for the subs. Can I just say I had to rewatch the scene where Shi Mok left his sandwich and ran to the police station? His hairline literally raised upwards, I did not know people could do that. Like there was no change in his face, but his whole face shifted at the same time.
Unlike S1 where it was just one case in particular, and the strings were unravelled and tangled and then completely unravelled in the last two/three eps, S2 has lots of cases with loose strings everywhere, catching and tying with one another. I'm glad we're seeing the untying earlier, I'm a bit sad to think that we're past the halfway mark now
I'm already hoping for a S3, we haven't seen enough Shi Mok and Yeo Jin, we haven't seen Shi Mok eat fully happily either!
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17 hours ago, bedifferent said:
Hard to read his expression LOL. What do you think is going through his mind at this moment? He stared at it for a while. He reminded her about her doodles on the rooftop nights ago. He must be pleased that she draws again.
I think he's thinking also about the Chief's statement that he had to make copies because he was showing the original earlier when they were in the room. Because Yeojin got her copy/pictures semi-secretly. The doodle could have been from before, but I think Si Mok is thinking 'Oh! A present.'
9 minutes ago, nrllee said:And July was mentioned?
The thing with our show here is that all the teeny details become the most important! There's probably some kind of relevance, someone's promotion, some political event happening around that time? I also think that CP Kang's face radiates 'this will become very troublesome' mood.
Can't believe it's only Tuesday shshsh I'm waiting for the next reveals!
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2 hours ago, nrllee said:
DJ is smart/sly but he’s a coward. He’ll run and hide when the going gets too tough.
I felt this in my bones HAHAH but I'm not sure if we're all hoping for this so he's safe.
I'm kind of buying into the idea that the person who's trussed up in the cupboard is not SDJ, but then again we have gotten an explanation for the tie. The person in the cupboard is still bleeding though, so I'm worried (fingers crossed)
I'm quite sure sooner or later CP Kang has to choose like in S1, between the evidence + Si Mok's desire to pursue everything to the end, and his stability + career. When he was drinking the soju and then told Si Mok to go away at the start, that was a big mood setter for the whole episode.
And Choi Bit was doing stuff at night, photocopying our Yeo Jin's drawed-upon call records. She and Woo Tae Ha have something up right there, again, one of those past linkages that we can only wait for reveals. Sometimes it's amazing to think there's been a three year gap in the series, and so much can have changed.
And Kim Sa Hyun has got his own agenda - he reminds me oddly of an older version of our Dong Jae, keeping things to himself as he feels. I wonder (off hand of course!) how he would react if he found out that our Si Mok has a physical reason to his lack of emotion. Right now in the current series, only Yoon Se Won and Yeo Jin know of his operation...
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Tonight another episode! In advance, I'm hoping that CP Kang Won Cheol remains the most realistic though secretly still upright prosecutor from S1. I was a little bit worried in the first few episodes when they closed the Tongyeong beach drowning case so fast, but the 'helping Si Mok' and mini pep-talk in the "It's not like you are even doing this for your own personal gain" plus self deprecating look gives me some hope that he remains the person who can and will look out for Si Mok.
Our Si Mok looks like he'll need someone like KWC, with the way Kim Sa Hyun and Woo Tae Ha are turning out (sadness).
On the other end, I'm glad that Yeo Jin now has Officer Jang with her, I hope he will support her well, she's having enough trouble on her own end. Her police team-jang, I feel was right when he told Jang Geon that she needed someone to lean on.
As for our Yoon Se Won parcel sender - I think it's either Si Mok or KWC. Probably the latter, since I don't think Si Mok would think about things like long johns.
Other things I hope to see soon, like, please feed our Si Mok a happy and comfortable meal, give our Yeo Jin her backstory segment. And please also quickly get them back together solving cases as partners.
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Was a good show, not the best ending I would have liked :'( But at the very least OJT got his deserts. It suckers me to think that the older brother of the editor knew roughly by the end that YJS just wanted to be with their sister and that's why he quit, since there's nothing left.
Not good guys, these people. But still, not bad people either. In that, I agree with Reporter Jin.
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The novel and the drama are fairly different in how they characterise people, so far I've only read till the place where the drama stops-ish. For one, Fan Xian is far more likeable in the drama, and that's such a big thing that I don't think I will read on further. I'll wait two years for a sequel and hope that the adaptation continues to write Fan Xian as an ultimately good person, despite his flaws. It's a great weakness we have in our heroes. We want him to be good, it's easier to root for him that way - even though we know real humans are much more like the novel characterisation.
Things like, let him be good, don't let him die, please let his Shifu be okay, no don't hurt Teng Zi Jun's child. Things like do punish that Yan-boy.
Honestly, the most dislikable person in the drama is the singlemindedly brainwashed Xiao Zhan character. I know he's been brought up brainwashed, but seriously. Not to mention the fact that his devotion allows for his own desires, but he uses the greater good to explain away his movements when we can hear his thoughts. In this sense, Yan-boy will never be able to reach what Chen Ping Ping has done. With the way that the first season of Qing Yu Nian ended, I really really have a burning desire to slap Xiao Zhan's character.
Many reviewers have mentioned the problems with hypocrisy, and I think that's one very long thread that all the characters except perhaps Ruoruo have. Still, we're quite okay with Fan Xian's occasional blip in a moral compass, because he's generally aligned like a chaotic-good. He's shifting more though, and it will suck when he eventually breaks Wan'er's heart. Before that, I think I'd rather stop, sometimes we need to kill our own heroes.
I know the drama can't leave the novel too far, if not there will be critics who condemn the deviation. But maybe one day the dramas can be considered better, an improvement on the novel. It's going to be a long wait, but if the novel is going to end up with
Spoileruh a harem plus no good end CPP
then t.t I cannot take it. I will feel terrible because I know Wan'er will let it happen and be happy because she one-sidedly still loves Fan Xian. And what, I'm still reeling from CCP's semi (okay who am I kidding) - betrayal. Still, we can see the drama going near there. The lines drawn were not clear enough for us to rule it out.
Usually I like the twists and turns but the ones here have only made me really sad(?), especially since Fan Xian got pummelled by the multifold betrayals. What a series. Now years to wait and time to go seek maybe something a bit more sweet. I will totally rewatch the first forty episodes, helpfully editing out Yan-boy.
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Ahhh thank goodness looks like our Dr Oh will come back swinging, hope to see her fiery spirit back up! Honestly, I was really concerned when everyone kept dropping little hints here and there that she was hurt, the one about her child and her family... but I think now it will be brought back as her mother bear instinct, she's been threatened and she isn't going to stand for that.
For one, I have to say, I'm a little bit confused by where our reporter-jin woo line will be going, looks like they've both owned up to using each other after all... Haish.
But, we got our brother storyline back up again, and look someone finally made the connection with the joint operations and the end of Sun Woo's life. I'm really sad though... ah why no happy ending for Lee Kyu Hyung again?
Was really really hoping. I'll keep hoping, they said if he can get up and walk again, he could survive, please, if nothing else, at least have Jin Woo around more. Talk more, hug more, anything, (gosh if Jin Woo doesn't find out faster...) please don't let it be too late for them.
I do want to see a close to the entire death of the original hospital director Lee though, I can't believe it's been months but there's been no investigation?
Also (oops) I've been reading HAHA but I see most people find the autopsy picture stealing pretty unbelievable - I think the sd card might turn out to be a problem in the future. When Ms Reporter eventually runs their story, I hope that the photographer will be okay.
[gosh, I found the ninjas after Dr Oh terrifying though, not on their own, but when she was so afraid I was afraid too. Perhaps the dress may be dramatic but imagine man, people dressed in black like that banging on your door in the middle of the night]
Lastly, President Goo - everyone knows he will turn good eventually, but ouch man, Dr LNE really took that personally. I think Jin Woo may have an inkling that the President has a reason for firing them (he said to his chief I think), so that is good to see.
[really last thing, come on, give the Organ Transplant Director Sun Woo Chang/Worker Ant more screentime. His 1 minute was so precious and important, he really shows the dynamic between the hospital and its management, also, please don't cause more people from President Goo's side to leave when everyone is turning against him.]
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Oh my so many new developments...
I think, Jin Woo is still all the same, hard-headed and unswerving in his path for the justice he thinks is right. I don't think he thinks of himself as a good person? (Ah, I was so uncomfortable when he just went right up to the parents and wanted an autopsy like) And, he's quite vengeful, our dearest Dr Joo was the one to suggest that Director Oh get to announce it herself - it would make more sense and carry more weight for her to say it, but it sure looks like Jin Woo can't look past her title.
I'm worried for our Sun Woos. Jin Woo might not be afraid, but they will go after Sun Woo first - I was waiting for Dr Joo to tell Jin Woo that Sun Woo will be in danger, but I guess Dr Joo also wants the truth. And our Sun Woo Chang will swoop in and save our President Goo from the big bad President Jo... ah please keep them all safe. Also, President Goo, atb protecting everyone but in particular Dr. No Eul who seems to have found her strength, not in taking action herself but in pushing people with more power to take action. (These protective relationships are so precious)
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Oh no Director Oh, I hope you'll be fine, you gave me back that hope that you're not 95% bad, there's still a chance, you still have your medical pride, but if you're dead then that's no good. Also, that preview gave me the creeps...
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On 8/22/2018 at 11:16 AM, piekeboeboe said:
"I did not end up at last position. so that I did not disappoint for our department much, didn't i?"
Ikr he's darn cute, but I think, honestly that's one reason why I'm not sure he would make a good director. He's very soft - up against Goo, I don't think he can actually push for ethical standards or resist effectively to even do the job he would have been placed there to do ie. protect the doctors.
That said, I am interested in seeing his presentation, his and Dr. (oops, Director) Oh's presentation on how they want to fix the hospital.
On 8/22/2018 at 1:41 PM, bebebisous33 said:Just like I expected it from her, she uses her position for her own career and own benefit (her own department). She is supposed to represent all departments at the hospital which she doesn't. She is not really different from KTS in the end. She is an elitist person who looks down on others. Her deal with Gu only helps her and her own need.
bebe, you've given us lots of cool ideas to think about below, but particularly on the 3d machine's end, I don't think it benefits only her.
Of course, no one can deny that Director Oh is crazy ambitious, but it's in part the nature of Neurosurgery and to a smaller extent, surgery.
I don't know how fast that machine can work, but the machine replicates organs for surgeons to trial and test out how to operate before major surgeries. Neurosurgery (and again, surgery) is risky, but neurosurgery even more so. Poke a little nerve wrong and the patient can be paralyzed for life.
The machine benefits her and her surgeries but also that of (if no one else) her patients. But bear in mind, neurosurgery cases can take days at a time (legit, the doctors swap out in the middle), with the surgeons spending hours not operating, but just exposing the correct part of the brain to operate. They can't risk things.
That said, I do think the machine will help other departments as well, those working on high-risk surgeries would likely use them as well, not to mention students (this is a teaching hospital) will get actual experience - I very much doubt they use real human organs to experiment on since those are in short supply.
On 8/22/2018 at 2:00 PM, dzareth said:In healthcare, would anyone want to settle for less than the best?
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On 8/22/2018 at 2:00 PM, dzareth said:I'm still puzzled at who fits the characteristics of a "good" person in this hospital
If we do black-white terms, I'll just say Dr. Joo and Jin Woo? But tbh wait till the next episode and they'll do something questionable and we'll be stuck again
On 8/22/2018 at 2:00 PM, dzareth said:Not all of those wearing the white coat are those with a heart of gold (no offense...) because at the end of the day we are all humans who are motivated by different things.
(oh my they made me split my reply up)
But this, I have to say, honestly it's true, that's kind of the problem once profit and money comes into a picture. Like people who do community involvement. Do they love the community or is it just for a resume? Does it matter as long as society benefits? Questions...
On 8/22/2018 at 2:44 PM, annagriss8 said:d like him to somehow get to work together with JW and Dr Joo - the "good" guys in the hospital.
I want it tooo 6 more episodes it can happen: Maybe to uncover the truth behind the previous director's death?
On 8/22/2018 at 6:05 PM, tzupi said:The 3D biosimulator does not help only the neurosurgery department. As she explained, the machine can make 3D replicas of many organs. It probably helps most of the surgery departments. So I do not see how she can advance only her position.
On 8/22/2018 at 6:05 PM, tzupi said:Dr. Oh is ambitious, but what's wrong with that? The director is ambitious but nobody faults him for that. Some people have said that she yells all the time. I did not notice that, in fact, she seems to be well liked by people in her department I also see her defensive because I see her fighting the sexism of her male coworkers
^^^^^ @tzupi OmO Where have you been all this time gosh yes I agree! Okay tbh yes, maybe it's a little of my bias that I love strong female characters regardless of ethics. I can't say selling the insurance is okay, but if the director is going to do it anyway (regardless, obv, looking at Goo he's that kind of person) at least she reaped some indirect benefit for the patients as well. Without her, nothing better could have happened.
On 8/22/2018 at 6:05 PM, tzupi said:When I see doctor Joon Kyung Moon, because he is so overworked and so bad at distributing tasks to his subalterns (as the discussion in one of the last episodes show), I see a mistake in the happening. Realistically, JKH is a danger: it is so easy for him to make a mistake during an operation.
I see your point here too, but ohno not Dr. Joo that will be so sad (honestly lol I'm surprised nothing has happened to any of his patients. Additionally I doubt it's just he's bad at distribution but that because he's not from the same school, his subs might not even listen to him well so he can't really trust them)
On 8/22/2018 at 6:37 PM, bebebisous33 said:Moreover, I remember clearly that she read an article about this machine that was linked to a brain surgery. So her real purpose is to get the 3D stimulator and announce a special surgery so that she can get recognition. She wants to get famous, maybe perform some special brain surgery for the first time in SK. Yes, this could be good, nevertheless I sense that that kind of surgery could be used for foreigners or rich people...
(Ah... I think the limit is on the number of quotes in a reply, but, what to do? Y'all have so many interesting thoughts!!)
Hmmm I didn't think of it like that, but certainly, it is very possible Dr Oh wants to use it to enable herself to gain more fame. But, I doubt that it will be specifically for rich/foreigners type of thing. The nature of neurosurgery is specific to diseases and disorders in the nervous system, there aren't (m?)any opt-in surgeries for neurosurgery that help like plastic surgery would. So, while it's true that the cost may be high, patients in neurosurgery are never there because they want it, but because of need. Whether she will discriminate base on status... we'll see later. For now, I keep my hope in her being a generally professional person.
She rejects the homeless and those who attempt suicide, whilst Dr Joo doesn't ever. That's one big contrast between them that we can consider in discussing her character as well.
On 8/22/2018 at 6:37 PM, bebebisous33 said:I am myself a teacher and I see it as my duty to support all students, especially the weaker ones as they need more aid and encouragement. Usually, some of them work even harder than the smarter ones. Hardworking should be the criteria and not just talent.
Ah... I see! It's... it's quite comforting to know teachers can think like that. For students like me, it's great to hear, but sometimes I don't think so myself. It's as if giving the 'top in level prize' to the student who worked the hardest but didn't score as high as another. It's not what they want.
Particularly for doctors, there's a reason why their passing grade isn't just 50%, can't be that they kill half their patients right? I think for Director Oh, her version of love is tough love. She's afraid that her kids will go out and kill people if she's not tough on them. They can work hard but if they don't save people they cannot be doctors.
On 8/22/2018 at 6:37 PM, bebebisous33 said:Finally, there is a huge difference between OSW and LBH.
Sorry can't help myself but uh, we're also suspecting LBH of embezzlement and fraud
On 8/22/2018 at 8:08 PM, tzupi said:Dr. Oh picks her interns based on merit. This is what she must do, because she has a duty to give her patients the best care, which she does by working with the best people she can find.
^ I realised this summarises my long chunk above :') Talent and hard work are considered together, to guess where a student will plateau to decide who gets in, but hard work alone does not get places further than talent and hard work
On 8/22/2018 at 8:38 PM, bebebisous33 said:Isn't she responsible if they are less good doctors in the end?
Hmm well this way, she's also responsible if there are many bad doctors, right? In one sense she's covering her own a*s, but she's also protecting the patients
On 8/22/2018 at 8:38 PM, bebebisous33 said:By the way, I didn't like the way she is teaching... the students made mistakes and they had to leave the class.
I don't think he left at the end, but yes, it is implied? That said, the way she talked about it made it sound like they should have known, and after it (with that kid still at the front) she re-lectured them on the thing again, telling them what to look out for. Additionally, none of the other students reacted (perhaps a loss of nuance by the writer) in a negative light, they were all chastised together.
On 8/22/2018 at 8:38 PM, bebebisous33 said:Notice that Dr. Joo is treating his students differently. It is quite the opposite. He supports them, give them good advice, knows their weaknesses and helped them to improve their skills. Dr. Joo gave the intern the opportunity to do a certain surgery.
3On 8/22/2018 at 10:24 PM, bebebisous33 said:We see in the ER that an intern made a mistake but neither JW nor the other doctor decided to get rid of him... they just asked him to be more attentive.
Ahh I don't remember him teaching, but I remember the time where there was a guy who said he wanted to do it, because 'he can't always be afraid of (some type) surgery". Dr Joo said okay, but I don't think he gave it at the beginning. This is something I don't think Director Oh would ever do. She would ensure the kid trials it with her on the new fangled 3d machine replica and then goes in. Without a volunteer, she would pick and make sure all do something, forcing them to overcome fears rather than letting them avoid it. From the sounds of that scene, again, Dr. Joo is very soft, kind, patient. He will wait all the way until the kid says "I want to try." In a normal school setting, perhaps that's okay. In a cutthroat world... not so much. In an ideal world, perhaps.
On 8/23/2018 at 1:41 AM, triplem said:not an ounce of compassion in her
I hope to see some soon! That said, elitism is bad when it breeds intolerance or closes itself off to change. I think Director Oh is very different from the traditional sense of elitism where 'our school is the best' I feel that she respects Dr. Joo as a surgeon and would not think lowly of someone who proves themselves to her.
On 8/23/2018 at 4:47 AM, dzareth said:I would love to have him as my doctor and teacher but not as my superior. The fact that he was already willing to sacrifice himself over jw regarding the email incident shows that he is not looking at the big picture.
^^^^ He's a good guy, but Director Oh is better at protecting with her own power, I feel.
On 8/23/2018 at 8:53 AM, bedifferent said:Hwayeong's push to sell its own private insurance is its way of eliminating the check and balance of HIRA. There will be no independent panel to judge whether a procedure is covered or the patients have to pay out of pocket. The patients will be at the mercy of the insurance agency. Dr. Oh fully understands it but has no quelm making a commercial pitch for it on air.
OnO didn't think of it like this. Let's hope she does something so the plans cover more... :((
Ahh have written a lot but thank you all for the medical explanation as well and @bedifferent this all just breaks my heart I swear if Sun Woo doesn't get to walk at the end of the drama and dies instead I'll be so sad :(((((((((
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1 hour ago, piekeboeboe said:
Also scene with Transplant organ director touch my heart. The Family who have donor organ only thanks to main doctor / (Text with heart, No herat emoicon) He is lonely
My thoughts exactly. Poor Sunwoo Chang. Legit hope he'll have a scene to his own. Also hope that nurse friend of his doesn't rat him out... looks like the roof top scene might end up being a problem
Also, lmao they threw us that herring in the preview for ep 9, and everyone was so surprised they told us that Dr Joo would win. Though I'm glad Dr Oh will get more limelight, and I think her way of getting the 3D machine was absolutely perfect for her character, the ending of ep 10 does make me a little bit concerned. Though that patient is dead and nameless, using the machine on that patient, then dissecting them to check and see how the machine works is a little iffy. (Just my guess here) Looking forward to a confrontation, but honestly I hope that Jin Woo and Dr Oh will be able to get along eventually.
Dr Oh is a harsh character but I think that in this case, her ambition has led to the best possible outcome for the hospital. If in the end insurance and everything would end up becoming forced upon the hospital, at least they got something that will be useful out of the deal.
I don't trust the Hwajeong Group Chairman, and I don't trust Chairman Goo either. Both, a little more on the bad and unethical side but both still confusing characters as they are - I don't understand how someone who looks like a puddle of goo (
) near a puppy can say things like that and plan things like that.
A little worried for the developing relationship between Jin Woo and the reporter who managed to get her story out. I would love to see more of her and her work as a rebel, but I'm concerned that she will be put into trouble and then Jin Woo will be the one doing the saving, cause, we need more females to stand up on their own. Can't be letting guys stand them up all the time lol, but yes Jin Woo, you did very well, going to find her :)))
@dzareth Hmm as to the love line, honestly, President Goo is pretty darn infatuated with Dr Lee. I'm not sure if she reciprocates - that's the problem when you have characters who care too much about everyone, everyone gets signals that 'she loves you' but she just loves everyone and I'm confuseddd. Maybe she thinks he's a puppy?
(Special shoutout to our Jin Woo-Sun Woo moment [yes gosh I am a huge richard simmons fan of Lee Kyu Hyung I don't even know how to describe why but his acting touches my heart], our Ms Kang [love her too] - Sun Woo moments and last but not the least Sunwoo Chang-President Goo rooftop scene again~)
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We got a hint but we got let down (it was for a good reason) but also hopeful that it's foreshadowing for better developments!!
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@piekeboeboe @purpose We can only hope :') I don't need a No Eul love line, sometimes caring people can't pick one person to love more, they want to love the whole world.
@dzareth @loopo @wanda77 Waiting waiting but it can't be just me wow I have never seen a preview that gives away such major plot points, I can't believe that they let us know one week in advance that Chief Joo would win o.o I guess that means that the Chief of Neurosurgery will get to move up the ranks as well. I hope, earnestly that she keeps to her conscience and her poster tagline that what she does cannot be quantified by money. Right now, at this point where No Eul is still a little shaky, I want Chief Oh to be kept as at least one strong female lead who isn't used for romance.
@Jusyed Sun Woo :(((( Ahhhh he confessed. Yes, I do agree he might know the answer in his heart (I'm calling it, it'll be a gentle down turn) but we have yet to see if No Eul can see beyond his disability. We have been getting a couple of Noona romances in the k-drama scene recently (don't watch rom-coms but have heard) but in this case, I think it's a no go. Whelp, there goes our perfect ending for Sun Woo, I was really hoping it was just idolatry/love for someone who mothers him but I guess, they just had to and I'm sad. I'm sad for Sun Woo and I'm also sad because they've put No Eul into a position where her romantic choice heavily affects the show. And if now, she ends up agreeing to date him out of pity that's even more painful - let alone if she ends up with someone else (oh I hope, please don't Jin Woo, just stay siblings with No Eul and stay with Sun Woo he's so precious)
But darn if ep 8 wasn't highly emotional. When Jin Woo shifted Sun Woo's hand, I really do commend whoever who directed/decided/suggested that Jin Woo hold Sun Woo's hand with his other as he shifted his grip. If not, I think my heart would have stopped and I think Sun Woo (as a character, this is a show) would have felt extremely insecure in the moment for fear that Jin Woo would let go of him. It's symbolic in the sense that Jin Woo really loves Sun Woo and consciously or not, he wants to keep assuring Sun Woo that he will be there. It's smothering but comforting and to a certain extent, ep 8 has shown us that the brothers are emotionally dependent on each other.
Also yes man, you ghosted on the lady reporter twice, it's a decent thing to find her in person to apologise. (Go for that romance if you must and use all your cheesy lines, rather than fall for the childhood friend which will complicate things, find someone outside who inspires you and forces you to be honest) Much appreciation to the existence of the reporting aspect, where there are undeniable in the storyline.
Also, @bedifferent you mend my heart, when Sun Woo looks up at Jin Woo I keep hoping they will both have each other at the end. Also curious to see more of the President Goo's thought processes - between seeing numbers and finances and using people because it suits him and 'acting' and 'being' human. I love how this show makes us consider and reconsider characters.
12 hours ago, bedifferent said:Life "Making Film" - brrrr, cold wind. Lee Kyu-Hyung's having as much fun on the wheelchair as LDW on the hover board.
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Read through all these so I can make my ep 8 last a little longer before I have to wait so many more days again for more eps!!
I think I want to start off hoping that this time Lee Kyu Hyung (as Ye Sun Woo) gets a happy ending this time. I hope he and Lee Dong Wook (Ye Jin Woo) go off on a holiday somewhere alone, just the two of them and actually get to talk. I get mixed feelings everytime these two interact because Jin Woo is trying to be considerate but it's suffocating Sun Woo :(( Like, Sun Woo has a stable job, has a degree, is clearly mobile but Jin Woo sees him as a child who needs help. (big difference between Jin Woo wanting to help and him thinking that his little bro needs his help.)
From ep 7, I have this sinking suspicion the talk about the metal implants and joint surgery have that personal link to Sun Woo. Chances are it's a car crash when Sun Woo and father went out alone, without the brother and then the father died? Just a guess there...
And after Secret Forest and Prison Playbook, come on, give Lee Kyu Hyung a character with a good ending pretty please?
Also Won Jin-ah is really, really pretty and I honestly admire her bedside manner. It's maybe traditional that it's a female role doing it and this contrasts with how President Goo made the small child cry, but Lee No Eul was created to show that doctors can have a heart. While I would like her more if the romance was a little lighter - it seems a little too quaint for her to be a romantic line to push the President, the Organ Transplant Director and both brothers all at the same time. A character with that much love for their patients deserves better and deserved more recognition for their service to patients rather than just be a pretty face for the other characters to like.
Finally I ship President Goo and Organ Transplant's Sun Woo Chang so hard.
Ep 7 41.00 to 41.33 just go rewatch it!! I have no idea how to upload pictures here rarw paste doesn't work but they are so cute. I love how President Goo asked him if he was okay first, then Sun Woo Chang threatens to leaveee
The latter needs a hug badly. It's a pretty emotionally taxing situation he's in every time he has to work - no one will ever recognise him for the good he's done because he's only doing 'bad' to the patients who get to see him. Unlike the other doctors who can be thanked by patients who survive under their knife, Woo Chang (idk is that his name or did they just swap the surnames around so he's also Sun Woon?) won't get that kind of redemption. Maybe at the end hopefully? A successful transplant recipient?
p.s. Please say it's not just me who thinks that Jung Moon Sung as the President of Hwajeong looks like a vampire in his one scene?
(Also yes, write fanfiction please. I swear if Ye Sun Woo doesn't get a good-end this time I'll write him one)
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Hey! Not sure if anyone has posted official OST links yet, but I managed to find the violin instrumental I had been looking for previously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zD7gWYR6jw&index=16&list=PLJ7BioYhVqnRGP0DvogpbBm8asaCXANuw
That's the link to the violin one which has played in some confrontation scenes.
It's also a playlist by a lovely youtuber who has complied most (all?) of the released OSTs.
Hopefully this helped
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Hey everyone, enjoying the show so far, but my otp is still Hye Jung and the gangster boss! Does anyone happen to know the name of the short sound track that plays in ep 9, from 35 min 12 sec -ish , during the confrontation scene? The pretty dramatic sounding instrumental? Thanks so much in advance!
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Heya, not sure if anyone is like me hopelessly trawling the net for fanfics of SFD to read, but I have found on google that there are 2 on asianfanfics, and (finally) 1 on fanfiction.net. Sadly, because there's only one, and it's (I'm pretty sure) new, the community filter page doesn't even exist
So if anyone is a writer there or anyone is writing...(hint hint?) please post some to grow our lovely community!
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Just now, honeywell said:
This part gave me the chills. I believe this was also said in Tree. Yoon Gyun Sang is spot on as the younger MH. Both actors gave the same intensity with this line. About time MH got his dragon title. It only took 49 episodes.
Yep, I think it was a nice caption to tie in with TWDR. But Moo Hyul really changes in tree.
I guess it's probably because compared to Sejong, he'll be more used to how bad the world can get.
From our chivalrous warrior-nim he's going to turn into someone who is single mindedly trying to defend his King. (No big big spoilers for tree, but well, there's loyalty there too.)
From the previews of ep 48 we could all tell MH would go back for Bang Won, but even as he was yelling his dragon title... I am not entirely convinced he has regained his trust in BW,
He did go back to save him, but that would be because of lingering guilt.
I think the current MH still feels that what BW did was wrong, that he can only truly serve "Someone who will practise politics that will make people smile. Politics that will make people satisfied."
I'm eagerly waiting for the last ep to come onto viki (If any of our subbers/seggers/translators are here, thanks a bunch you all are really fast and super awesome!), but more than all the fights, (Go Cheok Sa Gwang) I'm looking forward to see the bridge between SFD and TWDR.
But backtracking...the break up scene when BW was thinking back to Young Gyu, MH, Ji Ran, Bang Gwa, Sam Bong, Nam Eun, Jo Joon, oof, the feels.
The half-half contrasts were a very nice touch, a serious punch to the gut.
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According to TWDR verse, Bang Ji will live. I think what's sad about this sageuk is that all the real characters have died. Only fictional characters to complement Bang Won who's still standing. From the spoiler preview translate, I feel a bit sad actually, (thanks homura though!) because now everyone is leaving BW. And thinking about tree, Moo Hyul must have been pretty relieved to finally leave BW for his son's side.
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Am I the only person hoping that he won't ask that ^? I mean, we all know the answer (I think.) It makes him sound really despo, and I reallllly never jumped that ship. I would really pity Min Da Kyung. (Esp if that scene plays out and she happens to over hear. Talk about confirming what you already know.)
Oh but I'm super excited for tonight, though, not for the ending.
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Now that the entire show is about to end, I have this feeling of dread curling in my gut. Just watched ep 48. Past couple of episodes have been pretty emotional. From the scores of deaths (Nam Eun, Sambong, Young Gyu just to name some off the top of my head), and the breakdowns (Bang Won + King/Young Gyu/Uncle Ji Ran) I can really see BW turning into King Taejong of TWDR.
Though, is it just me, or did BY fade quite a lot? I admit I've never jumped to ship BW and BY, but she had some form of screen presence here and there, even if I didn't like her character. Also, I'm staunchly Team Moo Hyul, if only because I adore his character and loyalty in both SFD and TWDR.
Considering how BW couldn't bring himself to hate SB previously, I would have enjoyed seeing a scene that could become a tipping point. The way SB was, "Bang Won ah, I'm...tired." I can't quite see how the BW faced with something like that could still kill his precious teacher. Well, then again, he killed the (half)brother who he had laughed with a couple days back.
I hope the last two episodes are seriously epic. (Ahem, for that, I think, more people have to die. Sorry folks, but I don't see a happy ending coming
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I'm already hoping for a S3, we haven't seen enough Shi Mok and Yeo Jin, we haven't seen Shi Mok eat fully happily either!
) near a puppy can say things like that and plan things like that.
So if anyone is a writer there or anyone is writing...(hint hint?) please post some to grow our lovely community!
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[Drama 2020] Forest of Secrets Season 2, 비밀의 숲 2
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There are some of us writers AO3 :') under the Stranger/Secret Forest tag. Then when I feel up to it, I trawl twitter in korean and use google translate on the post type! But there's not enough material in the area to sustain me for another three years lol