Immortal_Angel
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finally it happen! all this time waiting for this episode was worth it!!! Though Jung is still being an idiot for trusting the wrong brother but it sort of build his relationship with HS for later episode to come. But the episode I was waiting for it the episode where HS return the bracelet to Wook!! I want it to be return to slap him in the face n be like ha! you said I was gonna return to you but nope I'm not and when HS and WS was making out I was like awww man where is Wook to pop in and get all pissy lol
These writers are giving us all these happy moments and next week slam us with tragic and death why must they do that!
cant they go on a week with just happy scenes
To me when both HS and WS were arguing and WS said the 3 words to her, she truly knows he was the one for her and that his feelings were true. What I meant by that is cause when he says "you're mine" etc it makes him possessive and to her since she's from the 21st century you don't own a person by loving them. She wanted to hear that 3 words from him cause it let her know that he does love her not want to own her and plus I believe wook didn't say those 3 words to her am i correct? So it shows that WS feelings toward HS was true and sincere just shown in a different way. But he gradually learn that HS really wanted those 3 words to prove that his feelings for her is true. I don't blame her lol
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1 hour ago, chickenchopflipflop said:
just rematched the fight sequence for the nth time...and I realise true to the script, WS's moves were 80% defensive.
Which is interesting to me because LJG's skills make it look otherwise (like he was the one attacking WW instead). And also, not to bash KHN, but in the long shots, i think you can see that he was using a double, whereas LJG was not..This scene is amazing because of LJG...R.E.S.P.E.C.T.!
I read that he rather do most of the stunts himself cause he wants to make it look real but he said if its a high risk scene then they want to use a double just in case of any accidents
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6 minutes ago, imsoso said:
Okay someone help me out. Can someone explain like the symbolisms of the Wook-Soo scenes from the first confrontation of her "going to make tea for the King" but also the one after where she's all "you're not the same person". I feel like I'm missing something. Like what's the symbolic meaning of how the 8th prince lied to her. And by the lie I mean how he told her the Crown Prince was in another city than what he was actually in, as said by Wang So that the prince was in Hubaekje but Wook told Soo a different place. I haven't seen any comments about that but what's the meaning of that? Also tell me all the symbolic meanings cause I feel like I know but I really don't wanna miss anything
from the wook-soo scene after the king told her to go find CP whoever stops her and ask her questions regarding him like did the king died yet, it will tell her that they are after the throne and would fight to sit on it. So when they ask her she will say she's getting stuff to make tea for the king meaning he is alive and requested to drink more tea. But when Wook confronted her and ask her that, she realized that he too wants the throne not only Wang Yo. He didn't ask for nothing else but if the king was dead that was the 1st question out of his mouth as the king warn her do not trust any that ask that question cause they have a motive which is to take the throne.
and when she said to wook "you're not the same person" it means that he's not the same wook as before, the wook before didn't think of the throne, he wanted to live a peaceful life and wanted to leave with Soo but when she asked him again if he would leave, he didn't say and then she realized he has ambitions and wanted the throne for himself. He lied to Soo to test her if she is really going to find CP she would failed since hes not in that city but they didn't factor in that So would find a way to bring CP in. Wook wanted to test Soo not only if she trust him and was loyal to him but also was her feelings still true to him in which none since her feelings for him was wavering after Lady Oh death due to So being there for her half the time which Wook didn't
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13 minutes ago, mochimaniac said:Spoiler
Yes there is a part two of Scarlet Heart which is modern day version, but most of the cast that was in part 1 didn't appear in part 2 and they added more characters in it. Truthfully it was a drag just that at the end both 4th and Ruoxi ended up finally together.
I would be happy if they were to do a modern day version like cversion but a different plot cause it would seem to have more twist and turn in modern day plot compare to ancient time. I think the writers are trying to make sure they don't change the history too much so they have a to work within the box to make sure history is still accurate and that it make sense. But with modern time, they can do freewrite and they have no boundaries regarding history etc so if there were to do modern day plot it would probably be better than the ancient version.
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My theory is that when Yo is king, he would extract his revenge and if HS is held hostage, WS has to do his bidding. which is killing the brothers in order to protect his own throne. Probably Yo made WS marry Yeonhwa to richard simmons him off or that WS knows that in order to get rid of Yo is to marry somebody that is able to help him become king aka Yeonhwa. Or WS married Yeonhwa since he pity her and wanted to save her from Yo's wrath. These are the route the writers can take.
I believe that when WS has to do Yo's bidding killing more people, etc just to protect HS she probably will feel guilty and falls ill like what happen to Ruoxi. Her hardship days the torture, and the time she was a watermaid which includes her depression cause her to fall sick and like before in order to get away from all of it is to leave the palace. I think WS knows that HS is a bird that wants to be free from the cage so he let her go with 14th away unless they do like what BBJX does, 4th really didn't want to let her go till 8th went and pissed him off with their past romance and he told her to go. HS knows her time is limit and spends everyday remembering WS and in her memory she remember her first time meeting him and the kisses he put on her. All the sad moments, all the happy moments and the time he protected her and in the end she dies without 4th near her and when they report her death thats when 4th goes crazy as he lost the light of his life so he turn cruel
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17 minutes ago, Putri Dewi said:
how about c-version? did wang so marry hae soo / yeonhwa / wang mu's daughter first ??
In the cversion,
Spoilermost of the princes are already married so 4th had one main wife and I think he has one or two concubine already when he met Ruoxi. Ruoxi knew about it but didn't mind cause she was in love with 4th and his wives knew how important Ruoxi was to him so they didn't mind. She didn't have a title cause of her status and so she was just kept by his side. But everybody in the kingdom, every eunuch, maid and servant know how important Ruoxi is to the king so they would respect her and treat her as if she was one of his wives. Later when she wanted to leave the palace she agree to 14th who had a decree that the late king gave him to marry Ruoxi and she didn't care all she wanted is to leave so she would be 14th concubine. but 4th never let historians wrote that in the royal family book so that's how Ruoxi never appeared in history
15 minutes ago, Gabi Bros said:I hope this doesn't happen in the k-version because I will find that lame. She has already told him she was in love with another man...but he insisted anyways. I just remember that the 8th prince in C-version told 4th prince that he kissed Ruoxi to make him pissed....so what is Wook going to say: "I hughed Hae Soo"? Hahahaha
lol I laughed so hard when I read that, He probably told 4th that both him and Hae soo would meet at night time in the cave and make promises of this and that and 4th even though he knows of the relationship he didn't think it would go to that extent let see Wook gave her a kiss on the forehead, hug one or two time, make stupid empty promises etc what else but I wonder how the writers are gonna twist it
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6 minutes ago, Gabi Bros said:
I think she was testing his love for her compared to the love for the throne...and he said almost clearly that he loved the throne more (which we all know). And more because in the end he told her: "i will make you come back to me" and she replayed with "it wont be that easy" instead of the "my love I will wait for you" that she would have said in the past.
EDIT: But I will keep my expectations still low because I haven't seen the bracelet being returned.
Even with the SoSoo preview, I will prepare my heart just in case.
I'm thinking it will be next week episode so she can finally let go of Wook after seeing his true colours and that he wanted the throne though he clam its for her but really he has his own ambitions. So once she return the bracelet its the end of their story and she can finally have a clean break and move on which is to So who she realized was really the man she always wanted to be beside her all the time and devoted to her.
As for the child bride, I mean she's a young girl could be when he marries Yeonhwa she probably said she's older and wiser and that she can help Wang So with the throne while the young one can't. As for HS probably it will be like the cversion, he can keep her next to him but she cant have a title due to her status and her injuries and scar
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lol its like the editors and the writers are trying to compensate the lack of WS and HS ship and that it started to slow so they cram all the good scenes in one episodes. Hopefully next week they will compensate the fans with one full episodes of WS and HS and that they let HS this time initial the kiss first hehe.
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21 minutes ago, millie10468 said:
The greatest shock this episode, to me, was not Soo rejecting So for the nth time (*rolling eyes from here to the ground* Yeah, that was suuuuch a shocker) or Yeonhwa proposing to So (girl has absolutely no chill, absolutely none) or Soo appearing to still have feelings for WeakWook (does she need another year?).
It was the fact that King Taejo was grooming both Mu and So to be kings. Talk about tough love. And he appears to know Mu has to die for So to be king. This is one of the times I'd think it sucks to know the future. I wonder when Queen Yoo will find out that her actions that day (scarring So) actually led to the sequence of events that allowed him to be the longest serving King out of all her children. I hope she finds out before she dies. Please, dramaGods, let her die lonely
Lol what I want is for her to live long enough for So to ascend the throne when her puppet Yo dies and when So visit his mother he would have this evil hot smirk and asked her this "how does it feel mother knowing that the son you hated, despise and left abandon became king while the one you groomed all these years gets killed and is replaced by me? It looks like in the end, you still didn't win with all these years of plotting and murdering in the end, you are left with nothing. I will make sure you life a long, healthy life and watch me rule this country till the end of times. I will be sure you are treated very well mother" and he leaves her screaming and yelling going mad as a crazy lady all alone in her own palace
now that is the end i want for the evil queen mwhaha
she needs to be alive to watch the one son she doesn't want become king become one
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When I watch that conversation she had with So you can see her face is like omg there is a guy that is willingly leaving everything behind even the throne who everybody wants just to be with me. I think she couldn't wrap in her head how can this guy standing in front of her say that even if he were to be king without her its just meanless and in the end turn into a ruthless king. I feel that Hae Soo is touched by So's gesture but she couldn't show it cause she still fears that whoever gets close to her will have a bad ending even if she just want to survive, it still drag in innocent people. She wants to be firm and cruel so he can give up and live a life of freedom away from the palace and have you noticed that is all she wanted for Wang So? She didn't want or even think of that for the other princes but only Wang So to be free and not trap in the cage. I mean she can think of it for Wook but nope she only said it to So that she wanted him to live a carefree life so she does care for him without knowing.
I feel like the king knows the outcome of the battle between the princes but he doesn't know is that before So is Mu and then Yo. He tells Hae Soo to watch it from far and she tries to stay away but yet he probably didn't know that Hae Soo is needed for things to move and probably something pushed So to fight for the throne later and probably it involved Hae Soo. Its like Ruoxi she was cautious of not changing anything in history but little did she knows it was her that loaded the gun and fire the first shot. Its like the domino effect, with Hae Soo just appearing, it knocked down one domino and everything falls in place with her presence
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11 minutes ago, sarasona said:
If there is person I can sincerely hate it will be the EVIL queen and her fave son.
I cant really bring myself to hate wook or yh yet because they were forced to be evil or bad. I dont think any normal person would stand and do nothing when their mother is being humiliated
Lol its not her favorite son more like a puppet son. She groom him to be her puppet to take over the throne. He realized that when Wang So got to do the rain ritual and he didn't and she slap him just because of it and he realized she really didn't love him more like using him to get what she wants. Even Jung noticed it and left her. if it was in the cversion, 14th is her favorite child and she favors him. When he realized it at the end he's just her puppet to get what she wants its to late to turn away. He basically do what pleases her cause he thinks she really favors him but really no
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28 minutes ago, tessieroo said:
I'm come to the realization that I will never be able to stay caught up in this thread. I need to accept this and just learn to live with it.
Today's episode hit me hard, I'm still in a funk over it. *sigh* I can't believe HS rejected WS again, isn't that like ...4 times now? My heart can't deal with it. PLUS it appeared as if Prince #13 was stabbed.
I mean, I'm now wondering if there is any chance at all this drama might have an even 1/2 way happy ending. MEH. Although I haven't seen it, I've read the C-version did NOT have a happy ending. I don't think my heart can take it.
Thanks very much @qwenli for live translations.
Well it wasn't a super happy ending for the cversion
Spoilershe went back to the 21st century and wonder if everything she encounter back in the past was a dream when they opened the history museum for the era, she was looking through the stuff and noticed no mention of her but then she saw a portrait of the king with the princes and a young lady that looks like her wearing the bracelet serving the princes tea and she realized it wasn't a dream after all. Then she saw a guy which was 4th prince walking in and her eyes teared up and she took off her glasses to look at him and he looked at her like uh....why are you crying looking at me.
To me she realized that maybe she was meant to go back and meet them since they are destined to be with each other
SpoilerIts a sad ending for cversion since she died without 4th by her side but she had 14th with her and she died not knowing that 4th still really loves and that she always cherished the time she had with him. But they did a modern day version in which they once again go through hardship and trials to be together and in the end they got together.
I know its slim to have a modern day version with the rating it has now but probably it would do much better in modern day since viewers seems more into modern day romance compare to ancient romance lol
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53 minutes ago, Gabi Bros said:
Yes I'm waiting for the episode to come hopefully it will be next week when she realized who he really is behind all the niceness and goodness. He truly is very good at scheming and using sides to get what he wants.
31 minutes ago, ddeokbokkii said:Oh! wow, I have not watched episode 12 yet. But base on what other people wrote here make me baffle too,
as to why they had to drag 8th prince relationship with Hae Soo for so long.
I think other who had watched the Chinese version already mentioned that the 8th prince and Ruoxi(Hae Soo character)
end their relationship roughly about 40% into the drama. Ummm, we are at episode 12 of a 20 episode long drama,
that's 60% of this drama already wasted on the 8th prince and Hae Soo(Ruoxi character in chinese version).
And they are not the main love line in this novel. It's suppose to be the 4th prince(Wang So) and Hae Soo.
What's going on?.I have a question for those who know more about Korean history, as I don't know much about Korean history.
Did Wang So kills his brothers in history when he took the throne?.
I know the son of Taejo of Joseon era did killed his brothers to steal the throne and he did not love his
wife(the queen). Wouldn't this novel better fit to transfer to Taejo of Joseon era instead of Taejo of Gorgeo era?.From what I remember Ruoxi and 8th didn't end their relationship till at least epi 14 and then she didn't start with 4th until a few episodes later so I guess for the kversion they want to make sure that all roads are cut off with Wook when she ends it so there is no way for her to come back. As for the history, I don't think he killed his brothers probably except for Wang Yo who was the king before but so far from what I read he didn't kill any of his brothers. To me, Hae Soo probably got confused with her history since she didn't remember much of it and that those visions she sees are visions that are going to happen if Wang So doesn't become king. And as for him being ruthless later, I believe that her death will be the cause that pushed him to become who he is later.
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I have a feeling that when the evil queen is next to the king, she probably falsify the decree in making Yo the king instead so that clash with the other causing them to go against each other. Cause if the writers are suppose to write according to history its suppose to be Crown Prince Mu then Yo so I wonder in 7/8 episodes how are they going to fit it all in
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I'm frustrated with Hae Soo so much especially with the Wook scene but when I think about it, I think she is heartbroken by his action but then she still cares for him cause he was the first one to reach out to care for her when she first appeared in a strange place. So he will always have a special place in her heart, when she questioned him if he miss her or not she probably wanted to figure out if all of it was real or not but I feel like she realized that the moment he turn his back on her when she was in the rain, she figured that he wasn't going to risk everything for her and she felt that part of her died. When she questioned him if he miss her, etc she probably want to know was it easy for him to live knowing what happen to her and yet he didn't bother doing anything beside Jung who gave her medication for her wound. I think the moment he turn his back after the conversation, she realized its time to let it go and that love is over
As for the rejections toward So true its harsh, but she didn't want to cause him anymore harm. After the poison incident, she felt responsible and was afraid that whoever comes near her or tries saving her ends up hurt or dead like So with the poison and Lady Oh trading her life for hers. She knows he doesn't like the life in the palace but stayed for her and she knows he's risking it wanting to be with her since she probably believe she's jinx. She knows he's hurt enough from the people treating him differently, she doesn't want him to suffer cause of her so she tries her best to push him away. its like in BBJX
SpoilerRuoXi tries her best to avoid 4th all the time and reject his proposal when he ask but he still waits for her patiently knowing one day she will say yes. And when she "broke up" with 8th and stayed with 4th she knows the only way to survive is to side with one that will be king but little did she knows her she did loved him.
What I believe the writers are trying to do is that she's doing this for So's benefit like the king, he wants So to endure the pain and the suffering in order to shape him to be a better king then he was. I believe when the king said Hae Soo was from a different place he figured she was like JM who knows about the future and he knows how it will end that is the reason why JM insist on So staying in the palace so things can fall into place like the history and the king figured that Hae Soo will be the trigger of it. I believe what Hae So saw in those visions is more really like if she didn't do this this would happen. I believe after the conversation with the king, Hae Soo figured that in order for So to be king, he needs somebody to pushed him and who else is good and manipulative? Yeonhwa of course.
I know some of you really want So-Soo ship to start already but just please be patience I get there like 8 episodes left but let me remind you that in the cversion its over like 42 episodes and the romance of 4th and Ruoxi didn't start fully until like episode 30!
I know Hae Soo is thinking of So already and her heart is wavering but she can't risk another person dying because of her and she knows he cares for her so she doesn't want him to risk everything for her. So now that she figure the king is shaping So for his future, she knows she is going to be a pawn in the game even though he said for her to watch it unravel, little did he knows for things to unravel and move according for future history Hae Soo is involved.
As for JM I feel like he knows everything is going to happen and he help push it to happen so history can act according to what its suppose to and he is using Hae Soo to do it. But for it to happen, she has to endure the hardship and true its not fair for her but I cannot help but wonder, did he choose her out of the blue or like a time loop he knows Hae Soo is destined to return to the past in order for history to happen?
For me, I will continue watching it hoping the writers won't disappoint us and give us a true love between So and Soo soon. They want to probably get rid of the politics stuff so they can focus on the love story later but I'm waiting for Soo to return Wook the bracelet ending it between them
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2 hours ago, wchoi8 said:
Hi all!
I just got done watching ep 11 and was curious, why didnt Wang So just tell the king that he knows his mother was the one behind the poison? Is it because hes afraid that he'd be punished for it as well?
What I think is that Wang So knows that the king knows very well his mother was the one behind the poison but cannot do anything and he knows very well that the king knows what his mother has been doing in the palace creating chaos, damaging and sending people to kill the crown prince. Wang So knows this and I think the reason why he doesn't want to out his mother is she is overall his mother. Yes she's evil and is a crazy evil mother to him and treat him like crap but I think he still cares for her a tiny bit probably he still hold on to memories when he was young before she gave him that scar that she was a caring loving mother before everything and that the writers didn't care for a flashback.
For the cversion it was like this
Spoiler4th relationship with his mother was also strand but not that crazy like the one in the kversion. She didnt love 4th was because he was raised by another concubine since birth so she had no connection to him at all. She loved 14th the most since she raised him so both the king and the queen doted 14th alot. That's why after Ruoxi died, 4th condeemed 14th to their dead mother palace for a few years
To me crazy evil queen downfall will be when Wang Yo loses his position as king now I cannot wait to see her go crazy and in the end the person she hated the most becomes king. But I really want to know what pushed her to hate him so much beside the fact that probably seeing him reminds her of her failure of persuading the king from marrying another woman. Theres got to be another reason hm...
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1 hour ago, orphelia said:
I really hope K-ver will not follow C-ver closely, especially towards the ending. I don't like how the C-version progressed and ended. If I'm not mistaken, C-ver do follow some history facts. But since K-ver is not following Chinese history, please change the ending to be a happy one, if not in Goryeo era, at least let it be happy in the modern era (or ends with a possibility).
I feel like they will follow the cversion ending since she has to find her way back to modern day. with an ending like that we can get a modern day version scarlet heart since its modern day they don't need to follow cversion modern day story but they can create their own which can be good since the writers can have no boundary on writing
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53 minutes ago, ossy91 said:
Maybe she will be a special court lady . But he didn't mention her in history doc..
Like ruoxi ...
Ruoxi was not mention in history because of her status, he couldn't give her a title because she was a servant and didn't come from a status family. Also remember, Ruoxi character and Hae Soo character are fiction character so they are not suppose to be in the history. the author/writers did that so it won't interfere in the history its basically time traveling to show the era and time period. So in order to not interfere in history, they came up with a character that sees what is happening in history with her own eyes. They both know they cannot change history like for Ruoxi she tries to change 8th prince fate but in the end he still wants the throne and when she warn him against 4th, it cause history to fall into place which in the end still end up with 4th as king. for Hae Soo it will be the same for her, she's there for a reason which is to help history fall into its place. Without her 4th probably didn't have courage to fight for the throne an later become king himself. so theses girls though aren't written in history, because they aren't suppose to be in history since they are fiction character written to show the side of history in a different view.
So for Hae Soo, I think WS will marry YH because either he was force to marry her by his evil mother or HS beg him to save 8th prince family and the only way is to marry YH but he will keep HS next to him as his lover like what 4th did with Ruoxi. Even though her status is still a servant, every eunuch and maid and other servants know who she is and who she belongs to so they bow to her and take care of her.
44 minutes ago, dzareth said:P.s.: Am I the only one who thinks that IU's post-torture makeup is zombie-like? I hardly recognize her. It made her lips look thick...
her make up they are aiming for dehydration and that they probably didn't feed her or gave her any water in order to deprive her in order for her to spill whose the mastermind behind it. They didn't want to make it too bloody but she's suppose to be torture for probably a few days.
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11 hours ago, Nindia Putri said:
Hmmmm good point. Maybe its gonna be happend like what you said. Its so sad to see princes being divided into 2 groups. I wonder which side that 10th prince and 14th prince will be on.
True.. I pity him but i still admire him. If he throw away his mother for haesoo then it showed us he is not a good man/son. I think he should deliver it to haesoo asap, i hope haesoo will hear and understand in the next episode.
well... You can't get everything you want in your life and we all make sacrifice to protect what is the most important in our life ❤️
It's unfair. But its life anyway.
Thanks for the insight!
in the cversion the group were split like this: on 8th group was: 9th, 10th and 14th and on 4th group was only 13th
but for kversion since they added in crown prince and 3rd prince the group changed i believe the game they played around episode 6 or 7 sort of tell you how the group will be. my guess the sides would look like this:
3rd prince (who wants the crown), 8th prince (who wants the crown and hates 4th), 9th (who side with whoever can give him benefit), 14th who is close with 8th
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Crown Prince, 4th (fighting for Hae Soo and vow to protect the crown prince since he saved his life), 13th (who wants to stay out of the family feud but is dragged in due to him being close to 4th)
As for 10th prince they really don't show you where he stands since he's not super close with his brothers beside 14th but now he's married we don't really know but we know that General Park who is his father in law is close to 4th so the group may change
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13 minutes ago, Nindia Putri said:
Yoooo FINALLY the sub is here!
I have one important question and asking for your opinion!
When I read all the history and some articles, it stated that WANG MOO will be the second king after taejo ( which is i believe maybe he will take HAESOO back or allow so to marry HAESOO ) and the THIRD king will be WANG YO ( which is i believe he won't be on his throne for a long time since you could see 6 minutes preview where wang yo face looked shocked and being murdered ).
but.. WHY? WAE?
In the 12 preview there is a clip when WANG SO and WANG WOOK were fighting over the throne ? It should be WANG MOO who will be the next king. Don't you think it's too fast ?
I will be waiting for your opinion guys!
Anyway.. try to understand wang WOOK situation with a lot of burdens that he must carry. Wook received a lot of love from his family even tho QUEEN YO give a lot of pain to them and HIS MOTHER LOVE THEIR CHILD. In the other side WANG SO didn't received love from his family for a long of time and HAESOO is the one who gave love to him. So, i think it's normal since WANG SO don't have so much thing to lose over HAESOO.
Do you think throwing your beloved mom that protect and love you since you were a child over a girl will be fair ?
I pity him so much.
It's good that this episode will turn our eyes and heart strikingly over WANG SO, but i think i still believe that WOOK is a good guy. Just my opinion guys lol lol STILL WAITING FOR SO SOO LOVEY DOVEY moment!! ( i don't know when tho but... lol)
If i'm not mistaken they both are not fighting for the throne but defending their side. Cause I remember in the long trailer there was appearance of crown prince and wang yo so I'm thinking that Wang So is defending Crown Prince side while Wang Wook is fighting for Wang Yo side. They make it look like they are fighting for the throne but really if they are going by history then crown prince than wang yo then wang so but who knows what the writers are thinking now
I get Wook is a filial son and wants to give what his mother needed especially being accuse of a crime she didn't commit and his family name was dishonor because of that, if only he has the guts to tell that to Hae Soo that I'm sorry but I cannot protect you any longer because I have to protect my own especially my mother, now he won't be a bad bad person, but then you can't totally blame him since like his mother he wanted to live a peaceful life but his sister likes to stir the pot and now he's involve in order to protect his family and in order to achieve the goal, he has to risk people to do it which is Hae Soo. Yes she's going to be heartbroken but then she realized that all along her true love, soul mate was beside her the whole time trying to threaten to kill her a few times and would argue with her. Without Wook, both Hae Soo and Wang So won't have probably met each other and interact with each other
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21 minutes ago, Mau_Cherry said:
No Question - my sympathy for Wook goes againt zero now...
He chose the Throne... here was what we all knew will come... now he knows what he wish for... and Lady Oh was so right... the greed for the Throne will make every Prince a coward...
I love Lady Oh for everything she said to Wook - she was right!!! Can´t say it better.
Just one thing... Wook never wanted Lady Oh to sacrifice herself.. he wanted her to ask the King. If someone can change is mind it should be the only woman he loved.
But Lady Oh knows better that she could never do that.
I just finished it with subs... and again I´m a mess.... today was really so sad....
But why in all the World looks So even beautiful when he is near Death...
Ah thanks for the correction. But when he told that to Lady Oh I'm like really now your asking a lady to plead with the king knowing that he might not even accept it. But I feel like Wook knew the outcome that whoever pleads on Hae Soo behalf will get punished and how would he know about Lady Oh relationship with the king? Unless he heard it from his mother about the king's past but still I feel no sympathy for Wook at all.
He had his chance to save her and end it, he lost it which is a good thing for Wang So but if he kept his so call promises to her like marrying her or taking her away from the palace etc then she wouldn't have ended up where she is. I really do hope that after tonight episode Hae Soo finally realized that Wook was just a puppy love and that he never really truly love her. If he did love her, he wouldn't have turn his back when he saw her in the rain he would have tried to convince her but nope he took one step forward but two steps back. If she doesn't see that i really will smack her in the head.
and from the looks from the preview when Hae Soo was getting bullied he saw it but both him and 14th didn't bother did stop it.
Watch next week episode when Hae Soo sees him face to face he either
A. stays quiet and wont say anything
B. he would tell her he's sorry and that he hopes she understand where he's standing at
c. when he ask her if she's okay, she will tell him that what hurt the most was watching him turn his back on her and that she realized what Lady Oh says was true
the throne will change a prince and that she should have taken the chance to leave the palace with Lady Oh instead of staying there believing in his lies
d. He will ask how's her new life etc and she would then return his bracelet back and told her he needs to give it to the woman he love which isnt her and that he should not
show up in front of her anymore. Then he would accuse her of falling in love with 4th and that she's the one that had that change of heart not him
man i have so many theories on how next episode would be between the love triangle!
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Do you think Hae Soo will go face to face to Wang Wook and break up with him like in the cversion?
I really want Hae Soo to find out that it was Wang Wook that even asked Lady Oh to save Hae Soo (hinting for her to take the blame instead) it shows that he didn't really put effort into saving her just trying to shift the blame onto another innocent to let Hae Soo escape. If Hae Soo finds out do you think she can sleep in peace knowing that?
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45 minutes ago, angel318 said:
Hello everyone~ I've been silently following for a couple of weeks now. Thank you for the all the spoilers and insights (especially the little details of history)!!! <3
Btw, side note to the above comment~ the king knows what's going on (he knowingly sent his loved Lady Oh to death after much persuasion). The king didn't have power back then in those times, that's why he married so many women to get support from their powerful clans. The throne is a seat for one who's willing to bear it. It's not all that glamorous. If you're willing to sit on it, you must put the weight of the country on your shoulders.
I get he didn't have power back then but with so many years pass by and yet he cannot create his own power to control the others which make you wonder how did he manage to run the country. I mean throughout history from china to japan, etc all the kings who rose to power due to supports and clans, they themselves make sure to know how to subdue the power and strike fear in others in order to maintain their power. This king here knows one of his wives is out to harm others but yet does nothing. But then I'm wondering how strong is evil queen clan i mean remember during the flashback when she threaten the king with Wang So he was set on marrying another wife for their power and she cant do anything makes you wonder if her clan is strong or after that incident she made sure her clan has enough power to threaten the king?
I get that once you become king, you are a figure to the nation, a person who has to bear the burden of his people but in order to do that one needs to learn how to control his family. I mean without structure, how can one rule the country? Instead of running around marrying wives for power, try to create and build your own and with that you show people that you have the power to wipe out another clan instead of relying on one clan
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1 hour ago, edensor said:
Can I ask why Wang So put his mask again?
I think the reason why Wang So put back his mask again is because now that Hae Soo is gone, his reason to leave his mask off is gone. He left his mask on because Hae Soo helped him see that even with a scar on his face, he is still the same person. She was his only light when it was dark and now that his light is gone, he wants to stay in the dark. He doesn't want anybody else putting make up on him touching his scar since to him, the only person who has the right is Hae Soo. And I believe behind the mask, he can hide all his pains and true self not letting anybody see him vulnerable without it. With the mask, people fear him and is scared and he intends to do that now that his only light is gone.
50 minutes ago, liz-danielle said:Yes chinese version WS cannot married HS... she got pregnant however miscarriage and dies at the end...
SpoilerProbably WS cannot married HS because of her status since status plays a important role in the time period. But in the chinese version, 4th kept Ruo Xi by his side like a lover, and everybody even the maid and eunuch knows that even though Ruo Xi has no title, she's the king's person and nobody can disrespect her or touch her. So I'm pretty sure WS will keep HS by his side and be with her every single moment and guess whose left out in the cold rain of course Yeonhwa. I think he will marry YH because of politics but he probably don't care for her since he only loves one person
As for the war next episode I believe that Wook will be siding with Wang Yo and Wang So is defending the crown prince and the kingdom
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cant they go on a week with just happy scenes
Even with the SoSoo preview, I will prepare my heart just in case.
she needs to be alive to watch the one son she doesn't want become king become one
I mean, I'm now wondering if there is any chance at all this drama might have an even 1/2 way happy ending. MEH. Although I haven't seen it, I've read the C-version did NOT have a happy ending. I don't think my heart can take it.
Once the bracelet is returned is done! The end of them.
and from the looks from the preview when Hae Soo was getting bullied he saw it but both him and 14th didn't bother did stop it.
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I'm thinking the one that shot the arrow is Wook. Do you remember he was practicing with the bow and arrow with Yo? and then when So and Yo were fighting near the cliff, Wook pulled out his bow and arrow ready to shoot Yo but was stop by So. So I'm guessing, Wook got a few soldiers to go hunt down Eun and his wife and when they surrounded SD they killed her first since she was protecting Eun and he got shot probably by Wook.
I really hope that HS will see that Wook was the one that set it all up and I'm pretty sure that when WS becomes king and he finds out Chae Rung was the cause of King Mu death, she will probably be torture and kill painfully cause to him, if she didn't have a hand in killing King Mu he wouldn't become paranoid and crazy and wed his daughter to So and that the blame was shifted to HS