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[Drama 2018-2019] Empress Dignity / The Last Empress, 황후의 품격

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13 hours ago, chubby^green^ said:

 

for now he doesn't see sunny as his ally

more like a nuisance a hindrance

if she stays in the palace, he has to care for her even protected her

and he has no time for that especially he is still on a suicide mission

he only has a full on rampage mode on the royal family

and also i think that if she is not part of the royal family anymore then he doesn't have to take her out

 

 

He doesn't see anyone in the palace as his ally because the palace just has too many duplicity that he would be risking his life to every show his cards. But...I do not believe that he sees Sunny as a nuisance. He pities Sunny because she was in the same shoe that he was in (being betrayed by the person that he/she trusted and to have to face the harsh reality of it)...and if he had find her as a nuisance, he wouldn't have secretly give her the medicine. He cares for her because she is the most innocent of them all (being used and thrown into the situation she was in), and he naturally protects her and risks the emperor's suspicion by "failing to kill Oh Sunny when he pushed her off the top of the waterfall." If he was as cold-blooded as the emperor, he wouldn't have an issue with sacrificing her. 

 

But...it doesn't prevent him from using her, since Oh Sunny doesn't have any relationship to him. He used her to gain the emperor's trust and to bring discord in the royal family. Just like how he might use the princess. Yep...it is not nice, but it goes to show how much a person is willing to fall to get his/her revenge. 

 

Not regarding the post above, but I like how Oh Sunny loses her temper. For all the time that she was in the palace, they have been calling her vulgar and improper. Sunny losing her temper proves that they are right, but it is kind of ironic. She has the most proper moral among all of them (equal to grandma), and yet the emperor, dowager, and Yura, who criticize Sunny's behavior, have the most vulgar and improper moral. In the surface, the emperor, dowager, and Yura look glamours, elegant, and moral upright, but their cores are rotten. And it's interesting to see them losing their anger in front of Sunny while demanding that she remains poised. So it's interesting to see the hypocrisy in their words and their pretentious attitude and actions juxtaposed to Oh Sunny's righteousness.

 

Also...I don't think grandma's death is fully Sunny's fault. When grandma made decision to request for an official investigation, I believe that sealed her death. Not only did she announced her attention out loud to the Emperor (who I don't believe killed her) and Yura (she has the potential to kill the grandma), she also drafted a letter, which could be read by the murderer if the murderer saw that letter when he/she visited grandma. Sunny could scream out loud, numerous times that she got grandma's backing, but if grandma doesn't take any actions, then Sunny's claim would just be empty threats. So in a way, Sunny is partially responsible for grandma's death because Sunny brought the issue to grandma's attention (grandma would ask for official investigation even without Sunny's interference if grandma suspected something...it seems like grandma is the kind that won't stand for injustice). 

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Its getting out of hand drama. 

 

I dont like

 

How the Emperor slept with Sunny right after the evil mistress. (STD) 

 

How Sunny gets dumped in the river. (Bad male lead)

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21 hours ago, nakatsubebe said:

Park Kyung Lim who is best friends with both Jang Nara and Choi Jin hyuk sent a coffee truck to cheer them up. But can someone enlighten me with this one...her costume looks like not of an empress..does this mean, she's demoted from an empress to being a servant?

 

 

Yeah in the preview (in the beginning; 002)  those low ranking girls are wearing the same clothes as Sunny’s.  I also noticed Sunny doesn’t have braided hair.  We suspected that GED died both from the poison  and hair pin. The meal was from Sunny so she might try to find something about it??   She also wears  eyeglasses in IG.  Sunny could be one of the girls in the preview.  Maybe she is trying  detective work??

 

EP9 preview


Park Kyung Lim sent coffee and snack trucks for JNR and CJH.

 

(KOCOWA TV) 

Lee Elijah "If her husband cheated on her, isn't the wife to blame as well?" [The Last Empress Ep13]

Spoiler

 

 

 

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cr to DC

 

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He didnt used Sunny at all since if he did not do  the job someone else would have done the job and killed her after.He just happens to kill 2 birds with one stone.He could get her to safety and gain his trust.


But that didnt go as plan since  she came back and he got caught in her  room.

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poor grandma! i felt sad when she was killed, although i hope sunni gets redeemed when they find the letter of investigation provided the killer did not get rid of it yet!

i hope the crown prince tries to intervene or something, sunni needs a strong ally in that horrendous place! although i do think woo bin is still trying his best to help her without getting detected.

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** I think the article is saying the killer is going to be revealed, with showing 3 pictures of LH, ED and MYR.:o

A real culprit who killed Park Won-sook(GED), is revealed in this week’s broadcast

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https://entertain.v.daum.net/v/20181217084549390

 

Special appearance by Cho Dong Hyuk who will play a detective to investigate GED’s murder.  

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https://entertain.v.daum.net/v/20181217105602226

 

** Group8 sent the cheering (nighttime support) food truck to PDnim and TLE team  to congratulate for the rise of the last week’s ratings. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, booha said:

 

** I think the article is saying the killer is going to be revealed, with showing 3 pictures of LH, ED and MYR.:o

A real culprit who killed Park Won-sook(GED), is revealed in this week’s broadcast

 

WOW!! What a great news..! Finally, justice among evilness! Who killed her, actually.??!! Those are exactly my guesses! Lee Hyuk or Yu Ra or Empress dowager... Or the three of them!!!

 

  • I am putting aside Lee Hyuk b'cause he is the grandson of the deceased person! But it could be him. Lineage doesn't count in revenge!
  • My first suspect is Yu Ra. Granny knew about her illegitimate affair with Lee Hyuk & slapped her several times.
  • My second suspect is Empress dowager since granny was about to reveal Lee Hyuk's mischieves to the public!!
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totally unrelated but i gotta ask

 

Spoiler

the emperor was the one who played the bad husband in ‘on the way to the airport’ right? he also was the pyscho guy in ‘you who came from the star’? 

 

wow he plays the villain all the time.. :sweatingbullets:

 

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15 minutes ago, Matilda_Anne said:

totally unrelated but i gotta ask

 

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the emperor was the one who played the bad husband in ‘on the way to the airport’ right? he also was the pyscho guy in ‘you who came from the star’? 

 

wow he plays the villain all the time.. :sweatingbullets:

 

 

Yes and I totally agree. He's good as a villain.  However:

 

Spoiler

In the drama, Man Who Dies to Live, he plays again a cheating husband, but he turns into a supportive husband.

 

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26 minutes ago, Matilda_Anne said:

totally unrelated but i gotta ask

 

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the emperor was the one who played the bad husband in ‘on the way to the airport’ right? he also was the pyscho guy in ‘you who came from the star’? 

 

wow he plays the villain all the time.. :sweatingbullets:

 

Yes, there is another drama also with him as the villain:

Spoiler

The Liar Game. 

And he is one of the reasons I checked out this drama. 

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14 hours ago, booha said:

 

Yeah in the preview (in the beginning; 002)  those low ranking girls are wearing the same clothes as Sunny’s.  I also noticed Sunny doesn’t have braided hair.  We suspected that GED died both from the poison  and hair pin. The meal was from Sunny so she might try to find something about it??   She also wears  eyeglasses in IG.  Sunny could be one of the girls in the preview.  Maybe she is trying  detective work??

 

 

Haha I hope the writer is not doing the Temptation of Wife act again. In Temptation of Wife, Jang Seo Hee was not recognized when she came back for her vengeance after having a mole and a haircut LOL

I hope it's not like Sunny is not recognized just because she is in a maid outfit and wearing eyeglasses LOL

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6 hours ago, booha said:

Special appearance by Cho Dong Hyuk who will play a detective to investigate GED’s murder.

ooh, havent' seen him in a drama in ages. should be fun to see how the investigation happens and whether it will be biased...

 

@nakatsubebe ~ LOL.. will really laugh if sunny comes back in such a disguise.. it will be as good as rocky bear's transformation. hahahah... :lol:

 

P.S ~ who is good in gifs? feel like this drama is meant for funny gifs! would love to see the gif of rocky bear's transformation! as well as the swimming contest, the sword fights... :D

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27 minutes ago, Lmangla said:

 

@nakatsubebe ~ LOL.. will really laugh if sunny comes back in such a disguise.. it will be as good as rocky bear's transformation. hahahah... :lol:

 

 

True. It will be beyond hilarious...another WTF moment

Anyway, for anyone interested or feel her eyeglasses are hideous...here's some info. It's expensive :lol:. Not sure if these are her personal glasses or just a prop

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, nakatsubebe said:

Anyway, for anyone interested or feel her eyeglasses are hideous...here's some info. It's expensive :lol:. Not sure if these are her personal glasses or just a prop

kekeke... they may be expensive (and not very pretty) but they are also so wrong for her face!

 

feel like I need to do a public service announcement. yoyo153.gif?w=150&h=150hahahhah... so this was something a shop keeper told me when I was a kid trying my glasses. when you try on glasses, smile. if the glasses get lifted up by your cheek muscles, then it is too big/wrong for you. your cheek muscles should be comfortably underneath even when you are smiling.

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1 hour ago, Lmangla said:

 

kekeke... they may be expensive (and not very pretty) but they are also so wrong for her face!

 

Yes! Those glasses aren't match for her! She looks kind of old with them! :tears: Oh God, imagine her with servant wear & big glasses!!!!

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jang nara could be wearing an oily rag and she’ll still look beautiful.. me on the other hand, will look like a crazy minion in those glasses.. life is so unfairrrr :bawling::joy:

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After reading the comments, I have to ask myself this:

 

-Aren't we expecting a bit too much from the characters when 

1. It is just 8 episodes in ;)

2. We have the overview of the story line, see things from multiple perspectives and see many angles that the characters don't get to see?

 

We keep saying it is not logical or this character/that character has no common sense but have we thought of:

- Do people always do things that make sense? (remember, common sense is not that common) :D

- Are people always logical?

- Are all people logical people?

 

I mean you can learn about thinking logically but being able to think logically is not the same. The way we think depends on a lot of factors such as, how were we brought up, education, experience, knowledge, information we have, environment, situations, personalities, time constraint etc

 

I mean, if we were thrown into one of their places, could we guarantee the outcome would be better? Easy said than done right..:D 

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I don't have time to read the posts; therefore, I might be stating something that was stated before, if so please forgive me.  

 

I jumped up and clapped when Sunny threw the food, ice and water on the emperor and pulled the hussy (YR) by the hair. 

You go Sunny!!!:D  Wow, what is scene.  LOVED IT!!!

 

I knew that the grand dowager (grandmother) would die when she told the emperor and emperor's mother what she was going to do.  Why is it that people in k-dramas cannot do anything without telling what they are going to do?  WB's mother is dead, why? because she had to tell what she was going to do.  When YR said don't tell anyone, she should have said, okay, your secret is safe with me.  The grandmother should have called the council... make up some story to tell her daughter-in-law and then do what she needed to do.   

 

When are they going to get it... telling what you are going to do before you do it will get you killed.  If you don't die, it wasn't because of the lack of trying, ask the Empress Suni.  However, it did not stop her, maybe the death of the queen mother will shut her up and keep her thoughts and plans to herself.  If I was WB, I would not trust her either.  He is still alive because he has kept his mouth closed.

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They are going to kill you regardless if they are meant to shut you up forever once and for all. You will die because you know about their secret. Who is better to keep a secret than a dead person? I say the answer is depend.

 

I dont see all cases as "I am telling you this for you to kill me." Some times they are meant to stop you from doing wrong further.  Not everyone takes your advice so I guess you will have to see who are are dealing with. If you were WS's mother, would you expect someone you cared for like a daughter to smash your head repeatedly with a rock until you die?

 

As for the GED, I say perhaps in her case she should quietly investigate because she suspected them both of killing the former empress. So in her case, there is a trend so the chance of them killing someone again is there.

 

Again, that is only to emphasize what I have previously said, common sense is not always common.

 

If everyone had common sense, the world would be perfect and less/no crimes.

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I was not surprised that grandma got killed because she became a threat to crown .in the palace , fathers kills sons,mother’s kills sons, even loyal ministers get framed with treason so justice seekers like GED and empress sunny will really have a hard.im just praying that sunny doesn’t get pregnant for the moment because the baby will definitely perish .

 

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