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[Current Drama 2018-2019] Empress Dignity / The Last Empress, 황후의 품격 - Wed & Thu @ 22:00 KST

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2 hours ago, blademan said:

DANG :joy::love:

I dare you guys to watch this and NOT root for Sunny and Lee Hyuk :tears:

 

 

 

Creative editing FTW!

 

Mann..the potential JN and SSR have if they were the main couple~ if onllllyyy..:ph34r:

 

I admit that i find Hyuk more interesting than WB. Both Hyuk and WB are unstable. But imo it seems that writernim made Hyuk's character to be unredeemable :tears:. After all that has happened till ep 32, i dont see Hyuk-Sunny a possibility. Nor will it work with WB. 

 

I will continue to root for Hyuk to be a better person. You can do it Hyuk! You must! And make coffee-bunny-hyuk a reality hehe

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First time Sunny find out about Hyuk and Yura, she will give him second chance. Is this really will be happen? Sunny realize that ED responsible make Hyuk just like today. But she full of anger this time. 

 

She fell sorry to Woo Bin after heard about WS past. If Sunny heard about Hyuk past, what will she do? 

 

1. What happen 10 years ago? He felt guilt for something and then try to suicide? Is that about past Emperor?

 

2. What happen 7 years ago? No guard around to save the Empress although she is screaming? Is the body really treated well? Why Byun never seen the SH corpse?

 

3. What happen in the night when GED die? WS and Sunny clueless and looks like stuck. 

 

4. What happen in one year later? Corpse with empress necklace that pregnant twins baby? (Am I miss understand?) . This necklace take back by ED from Sunny. 

 

5. Who is the last Empress? Oh Sunny. Hope she is alive. If the burried Corpse from 7 years ago, hope there will more than a necklace. No one will dug or burried again necklace.

 

6. Who is Ari in one year later, when corpse find out? Is that normal with her hair style (unsure)? 

 

This drama full of question.. Give me a clue.

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my head is spinning trying to keep track of this kill count! :sweatingbullets: can't believe we have so many fake deaths! hahaha...

 

Updated notes:

** original bet had about 7-8 ish people (not counting the fake deaths) -- so far, it looks like only option 1 is winning as there have been 2 more actual deaths which takes count to 9 or 10 -- sunny's mom and the imperial doctor.

** the fake death has increased by 1 --

wang shik & sunny in lake, emperor stabbed in neck, wang shik in sea, sunny in cliff, sunny almost falls off crane, sunny getting hit by stone, helro and dad almost burnt, yura getting cement poured on, servant lady getting beaten by empress, yura fakes death with yellow truck, yura almost burns with yellow truck, emperor and his motorbike incident, royal guard who is no longer missing but in mental hospital and this week's addition of old guard who showed up in front of yura

so about 16 fake/close deaths?

 

UPDATED:

so far, 1 villain (Ma pil joo) have been killed, 5 good people killed (grandma, mom of wang shik, queen so hyun, chief hong, sunny's mom), miscellaneous people (the royal guard's brother who attempted to kill emperor + 2 or 3 buddies + the doctor at imperial hospital) , all together about 9 or 10*** folks? going forward, how many more characters will disappear? 

"the kill count!" bet  sword-red-crab-emoticon.gif?1292455363

option 1: this isn't OCN with bad depressing lighting! surprised-red-crab-emoticon.gif?12924553so maybe few : maybe another 1-5? -- @jbeanie1709 

 

option 2: this is a modern saeguk! what's a saeguk without some tragedy? thinking-red-crab-emoticon.gif?129245536so a few more + miscellaneous random people from palace we don't care about: so maybe another 6-10? -- lmangla @katakwasabi  @ktcjdrama  @triplem @nakatsubebe

 

option 3: they are taking down the monarchy, it will be a revolution! ops-red-crab-emoticon.gif?1292455361: so maybe more than 10? --  @chubby^green^   @booha  @gm4queen

 

P.S ~ have I missed anything? do let me know...

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Sharing my 2 cents..

1. If there's a turn around in LH & he sincerely learnt to love SN, then he shud let her go unconditionally & let her make her choice, which of them she wanna be with.

 

2. I think WB will live, that at the very last moment they manage to get the bullet out from his head.

 

3. TBH with LH recent antique I too begin to open up to him, but then I'm not SN. SN & WB slowly open up to each other is sweet too. And I see many have already ship LH & SN. Honestly I think its not just the character they play but the actors themselves. Given that both SSR & JNR are much more experience, I guess their tandem make much more chemistry than JNR & CJH

 

4. I think YR partly wanted to enter the palace not just to find KJ but to show him she can do better & hook up with the king himself. If I remember correctly before entering the palace she alreadh move on from DS's dad to WS. I remember they were making out in garden when KJS's brother attack the 1st luncheon. But YR became crueller as time moves on & I think there's no return for her except death.  If we can blame LH's psychology condition becos of his childhood & upbringing, there's none for YR.  She might grow up lacking with money but she was never lack of ppl of loves & care for her.  She is a troublemaker from young when she ran away  from home only to rtn after heavily pregnant 

 

5. Perhaps there's gold on the island the ED loves so much *roll-eyes*

 

6. The alternative title of the show is The last Empress, therefore I guess the royal monarchy will end with LH, after all mystery solved & wrongdoing in the palace exposed.

 

7. After they abolished the monarch system  SN is no longer an empress,  so she will live happily ever after with that hot bodyguard of hers.

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I really dont care about  him getting redeem like at all he cant really either after all the horrible things he did.A few things here and there wont erase anything.All I want to see is him and his mother in jail.

 

I also repeat he tried to kill Sunny, he tired to frame her, and he cheated on her, in general he is awful to women in this drama they are treated like toys to him I cant believe I have to keep saying this.

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Very nice opinions from others. I do agree Sunny will reject Woo Bin's confession. But again, is it really confession? Because he used the word Juahamnida (like) and not saranghamnida (love). For his plans, I think he will make excuse from the word he said. Saying he likes her because she's nice to him bla...bla...without indicating he loves her in front of that psycho emperor. Otherwise their plans will be broken. In this stage, I'm sure Woo Bin and Sunny already fall for each other. We just need time to see the proper statement from them lol.

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Will Sunny play along and say "I like you too"? :lol: For all I know, Sunny probably thinks he's only saying he likes her to put on an act in front of LH.

 

Or maybe she'll just walk away because she won't know what to say.

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8 hours ago, Lmangla said:

option 3: they are taking down the monarchy, it will be a revolution! ops-red-crab-emoticon.gif?1292455361: so maybe more than 10? --  @chubby^green^   @booha  @gm4queen

i seriously thought the killing just wont stop but the second i make my choice

the villains and the good guys suddenly decided they have too much blood on their hands and decided to take a rest

and instead prefer the torture method

meh...

 

but i am still holding hope that it will increase in later eps

the palace will be drenched in red!

hahaha

 

havent watch last week eps yet

just need to vent this one out first

 

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11 hours ago, jbeanie1709 said:

 I can’t read Korean but I read somewhere ( can’t remember now exactly where I saw it) that the only the news (audio) was translated and not the text on the screen. If some kind Chingu can translate what is written on the screen, it can give us a clue of who the corpse is. I do think it is empress so hyun but why bury her with the necklace?? And the place is not in the island which ED is trying so hard to keep in her possession. Hopefully not another person that we do not know of.

I was the one who wrote up the translation here, somewhere many pages ago. Sorry I don't know how to search for it. :sweatingbullets: but I can tell you it didn't say anything about who the corpse is. 

 

The time stamp was Jan 17th, so yes we're going to reach that part of the story soon. My best guess is that's the body of Empress SH. The necklace was original whereas the necklace Sunny wore is a fake. 

 

This drama opened with news of corpse (Jan 2019) and whatever we've been watching is from one year ago (Jan 2018). 

 

@gm4queen I think we can trust the writer to wrap up the story well, although I don't know how. @Lmangla can probably answer it better since she is more familiar with this writer. It's my first time watching her works. 

 

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Most netizens have fallen for the dorky side of the emperor. The writer has certainly succeeded in portraying the evil side of him in 1/3 of the drama that led veiwers to initially hate him and then now to sympathize/empathize with him in the 2nd part of the drama when he showed his dorkiness. I must admit that it is very easy to stand on his side and hope that he can redeem himself. BUT sorry.. I am one of the minority who cannot seem to stand on his side. Yes.. he is pitiful and but he has not shown an inch of remorse of the killings he had committed. I am not referring to the accidental death of Sunny’s mom. It is the others he had killed. The poor reporter who asked the wrong question in episode 1. He had him killed by Ma PJ.

i would agree with @lxands that he truly love Sunny and want to undo all the wrong things, he should let her go unconditionally.

right now.. I think he will fall back to his evilness and the anger that he unleashes will be worse than what we see in the 1st part of the show. He will feel betrayed by his most trusted dongsaeng and compete with him for Sunny.

 

as for WB/WS, The writer had written him as someone who is capable of falling into the dark side if he is not careful. He is bull headed, impulsive at the beginning and not afraid to show his emotions and through training from Byun, he has managed to control some of that fiery temper of his but has totally closed up in emotions. I guess this is why viewers can’t seem to see any chemistry between WB and Sunny. This is not a romance drama, we will not see lovey doves scenes from the main OTP ( though I am looking for at least 1 or 2 kisses from them] However in those moments with Sunny, their eyes and small interactions says it all (at least for me). Come on...:lol:Rocky bear finally smiles in front of Sunny.. it is so rare to see him smile in this drama

 

WB does not have many lines nor screen time in the first part of the show. It focuses on building LH character. We only see an increase in the 2nd part of the show when it fucses now on the alliance of team WB (Byun/Sunny/Yoon) to bring down the empire.. I really need to applaud Choi Jin Hyuk in taking up this role. It is not easy to portray WB/WS and he has brought out this character beautifully and his acting is always on point with his facial expressions. I have seen him in other dramas but acting WS/WB is another level. I cried buckets when he found him mom and buried her.  It is rather disappointing that most netizens do not see this.

 

my only wish is not for the writer to change course in her writing due to the comments from netizens and stay true to her original intent. 

It will doing injustice to the entire story and their characters be it LH/Sunny/WB.

 

P/S: what’s the secret with those cookie boxes???.. ED has a bakery in her dungeon??

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@ktcjdrama @gm4queen I can also answer since I've seen 5 dramas from this writer. Everything will definitely be wrapped up in 8 hrs because it's not as short of a time as we think. It's good that it's only 8 hrs left because there won't be a draggy moment right? We'll be at the edge of our seat at all times. If there's one thing I'm surprised about, it's the fact that it's only 24 episodes in total. Kim Soon Ok loves doing 50 episode dramas so what made her decide to keep TLE short? Also, extensions are always a thing with this writer so there could end up being a 1 or 2 episode extension just for the sake of the high ratings. 

 

But don't be surprised if Sunny ends up alone. The love lines usually get tossed to the side when we get closer to the end because this writer usually doesn't care enough to finish those. Let's hope she actually cares this time.

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Could they realistically make a LH/Sunny ending though...?

 

Sunny either ending up alone or with WB I think can work but storywise and character wise I am not sure how LH/Sunny would even be anyway possible, even if his character suddenly takes a turn and his apologetic, regretful, this is not an apology is enough type situation. After all his actions, everything he has done, not sure how it can end with him walking off hand in hand with Sunny...? He has to pay for his actions and crimes.

 

 

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2 hours ago, chubby^green^ said:

i seriously thought the killing just wont stop but the second i make my choice

the villains and the good guys suddenly decided they have too much blood on their hands and decided to take a rest

and instead prefer the torture method

meh...

 

hahahah... same here... feel like we should have made a bet for fake/close deaths instead! :sweatingbullets:

 

@ktcjdrama @gm4queen ~. won't even attempt to predict the ending because have been surprised each time. it is part of the fun. but it always does make sense and there is a closed ending. the bad guys lose and do get punishment. and no one escapes just because they have a great sob story. but as @sonequeen01 pointed out, the romance does often gets tossed aside as thats not the main focus.... but we will have fun watching! :)

 

as for ED, am starting to wonder if the apt punishment is something going horribly wrong with her anti-aging procedures. she seems obsessed with trying different things including injecting herself with something. won't be surprised if she ends up with warts and pimples and some great age lines as a result!

 

1 hour ago, jbeanie1709 said:

P/S: what’s the secret with those cookie boxes???.. ED has a bakery in her dungeon??

.... maybe the island is filled with some sort of plant/flower that works like opiate kind of drug? and she turns them into cookies and then sells them? ... am more curious about what drives her -- she already has power and money. is it just plain greed? plain evilness?

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As I read our chingus' comments here, now I have faith on this writer! Most viewers prefer a non-draggy plot with a believable ending... And I am sure she'll give it to us at the end.

 

There are a lot of comments on the net shipping Sunny & Lee Hyuk... But I want her to end up with Wang Sik. They both have same background to share with each other! They totally fit. But at the same time, I want Lee Hyuk to end up as a good guy at the finale. His feelings for Sunny seem pure & sincere in recent eps... And he also seems to be a victim of Empress Dowager's terror... That woman is tooooooooooo evil.

 

But however at the end, bad guys should be punished & good guys should get justice. Now that  we only have 8 hrs left, let's see what's there ahead. :sweatingbullets:

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Annyeong chingudeul.. 

It's been 2 years since my last kdrama.. And joining soompi's forum. MLSHR broke my heart to pieces and I can't find any other dramas that can rival it. In fact, I started to watch this drama because the background looked awfully similar with that drama.. n JNR's beauty in hanboks. I should declare that I'm happily hooked with LTE right now. What a roller coaster! Love it ❤️

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@jbeanie1709 yes i agree with.you with NWS character..he.doesnt have so much dialogue..most of the time the character have to deal with inner emotion..only can be done by the eye and facial expression..this obviously can be seen in the first half of the drama..before the dorkiness of LH started.

 

The crying scene when burying his mother such a really sad moment..followed by crying with dongshik huhu but people is blinded with dorkiness of emperor :cry:

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I say sunny doesnt end with either one. Abolish any love line. Sunny ends up happy with dad and Helro. Haha

 

No matter how engaging Sunny-Hyuk scenes are, no matter how riveting Hyuk is, his past deeds are too much for any relationship as of now. I still want Hyuk to be better though. He shows flashes of clarity, some sense of wrong but he snaps back to being despicable when put on edge. I agree that he never truly showed he's remorseful for anything and says wrong stuff a lot. But bad upbringing and being confined in the awful palace walls while being brainwashed by evil mum may also have turned him into the person that he currently is. I hope its not to late to help him. Just like how sunny helped Ari learn what she did with the maid was wrong. I dont need sunny to nurture Hyuk, i dont care who helps him to be better. I just want him to end up as the best version he could possibly be and atone his wrongdoings, if not all of it, some would suffice. Huhu

 

WB-Sunny : they could be friends. Woo bin is meh. He has no personality so far. He is unstable too and has a bullet in his head. 

 

On another note, this reminds me of 'I'm Sorry, I Love You' aka 'Mianhae,Saranghae (MiSa)'.

2 guys (one with a bullet in his head, another quite emotionally unstable with a heart problem) and 1 girl :ph34r::sweatingbullets:

 

misa01.jpg

misa06.jpg

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Ari's interest in Sunny was real or because Ari knew Sunny was rich? (real witness was the legacy of the original reading, ED and Hyuk did not know that Ari was peeping, and So Jin was drunk). Even though Ari said Sunny, then she returned (why? Is this innocence too? # Rather strange). Mama-Nim title for Seo Kang Hee. Is this a title doesn't mean something in Ari's mind? 

 

Lookin to her father temper it might be 

1. She is pure interest to Sunny, thats why she is crazily missing her. 

2. She adore to Sunny because only Sunny that treat her like a normal child. 

3. She is not getting mad because Sunny hit her, or show hatred behind, even she give Sunny flower that prepared well. 

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I still prefer the endgame is Sunny-Woobin because the two should have happy ending lol. Well, I wanna see love triangle Sojin-Woobin-Sunny. Sojin is as crazy as her brother. I wanna see Sunny and Sojin fight over Woobin. It will be fun to watch. Cat fight is more interesting. But of course we need to figure out all mystery because get to much on love story. 

The mummy at 1st episode seems like late empress. And if not ED, perhaps the nanny did that. 

As for Hyuk, I don't see him change in this stage. On latest episode we saw how he push Sunny to be with him and saying he won't divorce her till they died no matter what. It's not love but obsession. 

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