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[Drama 2018-2019] Encounter / Boyfriend, 남자친구

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33 minutes ago, stroppyse said:

but I still feel the need to speak up for the one mother who truly loves her children in this drama.

 

I get where you're coming from but.....what kind of love is this I wonder? 

I would say it's selfish love...she thinks she knows best what's good for her son and what's not good...the child will grow up and have his own family. You can't do that to him and say she truly loves her kids for me.......

How can she truly love her son when she takes matters into her own hands and set out to destroy his happiness...

That's my opinion. 

I feel that the mothers don't have to be bad all the time to be classified as bad. All it takes is a super deep cut for the scar to remain and that's what JH's mum is doing to both her son and SH. She didn't even bother to get to know SH better. If she really loves her son, she'll make the effort to find out what kind of woman really is CSH, wouldn't she.......not try to get rid of the woman her son loves so deeply behind his back.

 

If you really love your son, wouldn't you want him to be happy? CSH is the woman her son chose and he's happy. And I have come across a real case where the son cut off ties with his mum because she disapproved of his woman. It's scary.

 

Darn. Those tears won't stop at the emotional conversation between CSH and KJH and his mum and SH.....it just keeps flowing.

 

P/S: I guess his mum will come around and accept SH at the end of the day when she sees how much her son loves SH. She'll be applauded only then.

Tonight's episode is just too much angst all at the same time. 

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14 minutes ago, rosiepeonie188 said:

Aahhh your words put me back to my sense.. 

Serious challenges and crisis are expected to be seen in ep. 13 and 14..

We shall hope tomorrow we will see a solution for the OTP

 

Hugs to you!  To be really honest, I also have to remind myself of Catharsis every time I reach this point in a drama that I really love. 

 

I won't watch today's episode; I'll wait until at least episode 14 airs, too, because I need the good feelings from the solution to be at hand before I plow through the swamps of distress. ;)  This is why I adore spoilers and re-caps:  it's like a warning siren for oncoming drama-drama.

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26 minutes ago, stardustvoid said:

Oh boy. What an episode. Should I hold out until the finale for the sake of my sanity??

 

eeeeeeeeeeeeek

 

My sanity in on the line after i watched ep 13,  i think you better wait until ep 14. 

 

Hugs back to you to @thistle

Maybe tmrw i will just camp here, and wait until everyone give spoilers and review :D

 

And YES FOR AWARDS TO SONG HYE KYO AND PARK BO GUM, TVN PLEASE!! 

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To be clear I am not angry at her ta all I feel really bad she feels she has to give up because another moms power trip.

Cant two people just love each other in peace?

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And..

 

because I'm a masochist like that.

I will watch this episode later.

Shoot me :crazy:

 

I dont think TVn has any awards though

 

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14 minutes ago, jl08 said:

 

I get where you're coming from but.....what kind of love is this I wonder? 

I would say it's selfish love...she thinks she knows best what's good for her son and what's not good...the child will grow up and have his own family. You can't do that to him and say she truly loves her kids for me.......

How can she truly love her son when she takes matters into her own hands and set out to destroy his happiness...

That's my opinion. 

I feel that the mothers don't have to be bad all the time to be classified as bad. All it takes is a super deep cut for the scar to remain and that's what JH's mum is doing to both her son and SH. She didn't even bother to get to know SH better. If she really loves her son, she'll make the effort to find out what kind of woman really is CSH, wouldn't she.......not try to get rid of the woman her son loves so deeply behind his back.

 

If you really love your son, wouldn't you want him to be happy? CSH is the woman her son chose and he's happy. And I have come across a real case where the son cut off ties with his mum because she disapproved of his woman. It's scary. 

 

Darn. Those tears won't stop at the emotional conversation between CSH and KJH and his mum and SH.....it just keeps flowing.

 

You raise some good points. I was just saying that I still see a difference between JH's mother and the other two mothers, WS' mother and SH's mother. I still don't think that JH's mother is at the same level of "bad". Also, since JH's mother really does want the happiness of her son, she's going to come around. Unlike the other two mothers for whom their children are just tools to be used for their own purposes.

 

Perhaps rather than selfish love, JH's mother is an "I know what's better for you than you do" kind of love? It's still harmful, and it takes away JH's agency in thinking that she knows best for him.

 

As for getting to know SH better first, JH's mother probably thinks she has some idea of the woman that SH has from all the media that SH gets. In a way, it's probably also a commentary on how we fans may think we know a star because we've read/seen so much about them, but really and truly, we aren't privy to the people that they really are.

 

I find WS' mother and SH's mother's actions horrifying and incomprehensible while I can understand some of why JH's mother acted the way she did. Again, this is not to say that I agree or that I think she's doing the right thing, just that it's within the realm of normal mother behavior, as far as I know.

 

And, most importantly for me, I really, truly believe that loving her son as she does, JH and SH's love will ultimately be able to win JH's mother over.

 

Aside from their deaths, I don't know that there is anything that SH's mother and WS' mother might regret, and even then, the regret might be that they no longer have a tool in hand to use. *shrug*

 

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if it follows traditional kdrama style then early breakup means happy ending. still 3 ep left so  i'm still kinda hopeful they will have happy ending.

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A few days ago I read a korean netizen comment that she wanted a VR version of the JH on the balcony.:D

 

After today, I would settle for a VR version of JH on the couch. :sweatingbullets:

 

Did someone say there were going to drink soju? 

Spoiler

Is this you?

3-F88262-B-212-C-4-A3-C-B534-97-D21051-D

 

 

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1 minute ago, dramaninja said:

To be clear I am not angry at her ta all I feel really bad she feels she has to give up because another moms power trip.

Cant two people just love each other in peace?

 

You know, in a number of societies, and especially so in Korea, marriages are not seen as being between 2 people, but 2 people and their entire families. And, not just at the business conglomerate levels, but even at ordinary levels.

 

I mean, it's definitely a range in terms of people now, and they seem to be going farther away from it since the extended family is breaking down there as well as it is in a lot of more developed countries, but a lot of people still hold onto that understanding of a marriage bringing 2 families together as well as bringing a couple together. When the in-laws can't stand each other, that makes for a whole lot of headaches for the couple as well.

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15 minutes ago, rosiepeonie188 said:

Maybe tmrw i will just camp here, and wait until everyone give spoilers and review :D

 

Makes sense to stand behind the safety line until the danger is past.  :)  

Please, join me while I wait!

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Okay. JH’s mom probably had her reasons, but I am so blinded by hate for her right now

 

I really can’t watch this episode. I usually hate spoilers, but I will tune in for the recap here tomorrow of episode 14. That way I would know of I really should hold out until. The. Very. Last. Episode.

 

You know the saddest part of all? We only have 3 episodes of JinSoo left and they are probably gonna spend it all angsty!

 

No, a one minute romantic montage at the very end of episode 16 won’t satisfy me!

 

I know, I’m getting ahead of myself. Sue me, I’m pissed!

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I just finished watching episode 13. It’s so heartbreakingly beautiful. I love it except the part where his mother intervened. My gosh, they are definitely talking  about taking their relationship into the next step. Which makes me hopeful that the ending of this is marriage. Im sure that they will overcome this. This is just a phase. Those who think they cannot take this episode, well I suggest you watch it and just ignore the last part. I love this episode, they really have come a long way. They are so perfect for each other. 

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Just finished the eng sub...

Just my thoughts:

Sh first impression of Jh mom as a nice one. But now she is wrong. She sees her as different from her own mother and ex mil. But now to her the 3 are one and the same. She is in rebellion with the momsters now, i think she will do the same with Jh mom. ( i hope im right).

What im expecting .... Jh will know what his wife did. Since he is supporting his son all the way, he will talk to Sh to clear things.

Jh will sense something wrong with his mom. It is from his own words that there's going  to be a problem with his mom. If worse comes to worse, he will move out from his house.

 

Oh, spring is discussed in the pr team. When in spring, many wedding events, i hope this tells something

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1 hour ago, stroppyse said:

 

You raise some good points. I was just saying that I still see a difference between JH's mother and the other two mothers, WS' mother and SH's mother. I still don't think that JH's mother is at the same level of "bad". Also, since JH's mother really does want the happiness of her son, she's going to come around. Unlike the other two mothers for whom their children are just tools to be used for their own purposes.

 

Perhaps rather than selfish love, JH's mother is an "I know what's better for you than you do" kind of love? It's still harmful, and it takes away JH's agency in thinking that she knows best for him.

 

As for getting to know SH better first, JH's mother probably thinks she has some idea of the woman that SH has from all the media that SH gets. In a way, it's probably also a commentary on how we fans may think we know a star because we've read/seen so much about them, but really and truly, we aren't privy to the people that they really are.

 

I find WS' mother and SH's mother's actions horrifying and incomprehensible while I can understand some of why JH's mother acted the way she did. Again, this is not to say that I agree or that I think she's doing the right thing, just that it's within the realm of normal mother behavior, as far as I know.

 

And, most importantly for me, I really, truly believe that loving her son as she does, JH and SH's love will ultimately be able to win JH's mother over.

 

Aside from their deaths, I don't know that there is anything that SH's mother and WS' mother might regret, and even then, the regret might be that they no longer have a tool in hand to use. *shrug*

 

 

@stroppyse Thank you for your translation.

 

Plus, thank you for mentioning about KJH’s mom’s love for KJH which is totally different from CSH’s mom and Ex-Husband’s mom who care their own business. 

 

KJH is a good son in Korean Family with close bonding, parents can hope for his good life and good wife after graduation and start working. In some Asian countries, parents raise their sons/daughters with love and best support ever; therefore, sometimes expectation and a certain involvement might be understanable.  

 

Let KJH’s mom get more info and take some time to gradually make her mind.

She might not like CSH as her son’s girlfriend and hope for her son’s wife’s normality but she would accept her son’s choice one day from her love to the son and from her son’s love to CSH.

 

I strongly believe that KJH or KJH’s dad who has lived with KJH’s mom for decades can convince KJH’s mom with a certain way to suit her. 

 

Even I watch Encounter and cheer for KJH&CSH but I still think that parents’ blessing (KJH’s parents and CSH’s dad) in Korea will make the couple truly happy, rather than unpleasant separation from family. 

 

 

By the way, I have watched Encounter ep.13 with EngSub, I understand KJH’s mom’s explanation to CSH and I still have high hope in KJH, KJH’s son, and Teacher Lee to find the way to change KJH’s mom’s mind. 

 

I like all OST. in Encounter esp. the newest one in ep.13, melody is interesting in relax feel.

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1 hour ago, ahdrianaa said:

 

 

Did someone say there were going to drink soju? 

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Is this you?

 

 

 

@ahdrianaa cheers chingu! :) 

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I see everyone is angry at JH’s mom but I think it’s more because of our expectation of her to accept SH, to be warm toward her and give her blessing rather than what we have shown so far. JH’s mother is a traditional mother and from the beginning told her sons that she doesn’t want them to have a woman like Soohyun in their lives... she is basically a celebrity and always in the news and also a divorcee.

 

Some said aren’t those two only important? what era are the parents living?parents shouldn’t interfere, etc. I don’t know your countries and cultures but I know that if my brother had come and introduced a divorced woman to my parents, they wouldn’t give their blessings. Also I know in some countries if the son/daughter insists on getting married to someone who parents don’t approve, they will cut ties with him/her.That’s how so many traditional families work. That’s why in this episode I wasn’t angry at all.It’s sad but to me it was understandable and realistic.

 

And to those who don’t want to watch this episode, it’s not bad at all. It has so many lovely scenes. You will enjoy it. It is a combination of some sweet, heart warming, funny, melancholy scenes.

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