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[Drama 2018-2019] Encounter / Boyfriend, 남자친구

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Chingus,  Do you notice that Jin Hyuk always made a cute smack before or after a heart fluttering kissing scene. It is kinda cute. After the first kissing scene in the balcony, in the masquearde party , Jin Hyuk made a smack to SH lips and the sound is noticeable. With the Morro Cabana sweet kissing scene, he gave first a smack with the cute sound again to prepare CSH, to make them both relax before the long and time stopping kiss. Did you just notice that, when KJH makes a smack it is so lovely and cute. I just remember the PDnim telling that he let the two top stars act freely with these kind of scenes. Well, PBG and SHK are geniuses in thinking of this way to prepare them both. :wub::wub::wub:

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Thanks @gumtaek 

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Sighh, maybe the writer is an anti of the drama.. I'm glad that so many k-netz defend the drama.. yeeee..

 

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4 minutes ago, mellinadear said:

Thanks @gumtaek 

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There was a comment that said, "Do not judge the two actors by the audience rating alone".

 

I think this is what people fail to realize.

I'm glad there are people defending the drama (there are some naysayers but it's ok). 

 

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The thing is this drama has spoiled us with high ratings right at the very start. So any dip causes people to panic...It says that the drama is not able to rebound after the one-week break. What does he or she think of cable dramas averaging between 8-9%?  Why even cable dramas with a final rating of 5% were sent on a reward vacation! If only I could send this writer what I posted about the difference between terrestial and cable TV ratings! 

 

It says it's not getting the empathy of viewers. Why is it topping the Content Power Index then? Why is this thread moving at an exponential speed? Why are the video cuts of the drama topping the Naver Video Popularity ranking each week with thousands of likes and comments? It's because the drama resonates with the viewers....

 

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Sohn Tae-young, watching 'boyfriend'...                           andenews24 News reporter | Enter 2019-01-05 at 2:24:39 PM | Last modified 2019-01-05 at 2:31:11 PM....

Sohn Tae-young, watching 'boyfriend' and "

Sohn Tae-young, watching 'boyfriend' and "
Son Tae-young has released a TVN 'Boyfriend' City Hall certification shot. 

Actor Son Tae-young posted a picture on his SNS on May 5 with the article "This scene is sad and sad". 

A picture of the TVN 'Boyfriend' was released. In the scene, Song Hye Kyo and Park Bo Sung are talking. 

Son Taeyoung said, "If you live in a strong place, if you live, you may fail, you may make mistakes, or you have a bad reputation. If you feel sorry for my life, do not be frustrated and try to stand up and show yourself better. Quoted by Hyun Min, who wrote "Hae-min", things that are getting brighter as they calm down. 

Son Tae-young added, "Send me one day for me." 

Son Tae-young, who married Kwon Sang-woo in 2008, has his son, Luchee, and his daughter Riho. 

Photo = eNEWS DB, Son Tae Young Instagram

 
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33 minutes ago, ahdrianaa said:
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It’s an article which criticises the drama and crew. Says the story lacks content,critical of actors,  says the ratings are not good enough and it’s not been able to connect with the audience, says the crew decided to sell the script books to create buzz for the drama. 

 

The tone of the article seems to reflect the reporter’s personal gripes with the drama which is why the comment section is flooded with comments, defending the drama, actors and others question the reason behind the writing of such an article.

Some of the audience comments are negative too but there are always some who hate. 

 

 

 

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thx for your explanation.. I didn't know that its have negatively in that article. 

maybe the the journalist was someone who contacted by ex evil MIL to write bad articles about the drama.. kekekeke..

I want to delete my post about the article and just remembering the happiness about this drama alone.. cheer up everyone..

 

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There will always haters, why care about them :huh:

 

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1 hour ago, mellinadear said:

 

Oh..I'm aware of that. I'm just amazed by how he did so (something he stays away from in Reality). Makes me more proud that he takes his job seriously (he's always had anyway).:)

 

@dukesa1122 on your first point, I thought that too that JH wanted to make a move but that lady ruined it. <_<

 

@mellinadear

From Park Bo Gum's acting projects no matter the supporting roles to the lead roles, he has worked with utmost no matter as a rookie or hullyu stars, acting is Park Bo Gum's profession.

 

In Encounter, in addition to Kim Jin Hyuk's being drunk, drinking coffee, Kim Jin Hyuk have also showed stuborn and strong reaction with fierce facial expressions to the much older ladies as CSH's ex husband mom in the press conference and CSH's mom in Sokcho, which Park Bo Gum in real life will act in very mannerly polite way. He also changed the way of speaking to be slower with slightly short pause from thorough thoughts before speaking ,the way of kissing, and also the way of walking to be sharp. His fans can proud of. :thumbsup:

 

For Song Hye Kyo, I rerun Encounter and found out that she changed her facial expressions to be very subtle in early episodes to the level that audiences could feel uncomfortable for CSH's careful actions. In later episodes, CSH by Song Hye Kyo showed her hesitation here and there to express her feeling eg. answered KJH's question whether she was glad to see him on New Year or not, tried Video call.  I appreciated Song Hye Kyo and her fans can be proud of too. :star:

 

1 hour ago, Glycie Manongsong said:

Chingus,  Do you notice that Jin Hyuk always made a cute smack before or after a heart fluttering kissing scene. It is kinda cute. After the first kissing scene in the balcony, in the masquearde party , Jin Hyuk made a smack to SH lips and the sound is noticeable. With the Morro Cabana sweet kissing scene, he gave first a smack with the cute sound again to prepare CSH, to make them both relax before the long and time stopping kiss. Did you just notice that, when KJH makes a smack it is so lovely and cute. I just remember the PDnim telling that he let the two top stars act freely with these kind of scenes. Well, PBG and SHK are geniuses in thinking of this way to prepare them both. :wub::wub::wub:

 

@Glycie Manongsong

Your observation is interesting because Kim Jin Hyuk by Park Bo Gum and Cha Soo Hyun by Song Hye Kyo created this fresh style of kisses to the characters. :kiss_wink:

 

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By the way, I read about Encounter's rating in Korea which is very high for Cable channel; however, some might need higher.

 

I understand high expectation because we can realize how great this Encounter has been acted by Park Bo Gum and Song Hye Kyo, written by scriptwriter, directed by PD, produced by Crews&Casts. Anyway, this is just rating for particular measurement for Cable in Korea, Encounter's merits are much more. 

 

The more I watched Encounter and realize the superb quality in every features in this drama, I am very ever happy that Park Bo Gum is in this project after 2-year break for study and I am happy for Song Hye Kyo to choose this project after her marriage. Encounter could be their turning point to let audiences perceive these both hallyu stars's acting elements. 

 

After I have watched Korean dramas for 4-5 years, I found out that there are many genre of K-dramas, each has the different target groups: 

Some with familiar theme might attract the housewife/househusband; 

Some with formula popularity might attract wide groups;

Some with fresh theme might attract teenagers/working ages/older age with revolution

 

In addition to target audiences, the result to the actors/actresses might not be in the similar flow with the drama rating.

Some high rating drama with formula popularity theme might not create brand value to actors/actresses, after the drama ends, nothing better to such actors/actresses. 

 

Futhermore, some high rating with formula popularity drama does not challenge actor/actress's acting skill to sharpen lead actor/lead actress's saw because such actor/actress act as he/she used to. 

 

 

These reasons above made me glad the most that

1. Encounter with fresh theme and leisurely absorbing pace has been delivered with amazing quality; and 

2. Park Bo Gum and Song Hye Kyo have been praised for their uttermost acting.

Park Bo Gum's and Song Hye Kyo's strong credential and immerse popularity in the entertainment world has been well recognized in Korea and in other countries.  

 

Quoted from Lollypop's comments in dramabeans

 

One thing I really love about this show is that it could so easily go makjang, but it never does. Soo-hyun and Jin-hyuk face a lot of opposition for a lot of different reasons, but those reasons are all realistic ones that I can see a couple like them facing in the real world. Nothing comes across as overblown or unnecessarily dramatic, and nobody puts on crazy histrionics. (Except maybe Soo-hyun’s mother, but even she never makes me think, “Pfft, nobody would really act that way.”) Even when the stakes Soo-hyun and Jin-hyuk face are high, they’re presented as realistically high, and I can even understand each of their opposers’ justifications for asking them to please reconsider whether this relationship is a good idea. I didn’t even feel that their decision to take a break was unnecessary or just thrown in to create tension — things are getting tough, and it was smart to take a step back to evaluate their feelings and see of they’re strong enough to risk them both getting hurt. Now they know that being apart is too painful, which will hopefully make them that much stronger.

 

Quote from the news

https://www.soompi.com/article/1287713wpp/song-hye-kyo-park-bo-gum-heat-screen-steamy-encounter-kiss

The kiss, which went on for about a minute and 20 seconds, became the talk of the town immediately after the end of the drama and both actors received praise for their passionate acting.

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I think people that gave hateful comments n wrote article like that choose to be 'blind' n 'deaf'..they only see the bad side n refuse to listen others that say good of it..I know we can't expect people follows what we like but I hope these people could respect others n not create war..

 

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At first, I was extremely bothered by negative comments and ratings but now, I'm honestly starting to care less. The ratings aren't consistently increasing, yes, but they're still consistently high. It's even in the top 10 most highest-rated cable tv dramas already. As for negative comments, it's very obvious when the person commenting is genuinely offering constructive criticism (which I appreciate reading) and when the person commenting is just trying to criticize the show without actually watching it by reusing the same old comments that people had even before the show started airing (ex. comments about how weird the couple is, how the show "lacks content", how the show is boring). Every single constructive comment I've seen about the show appreciates how the show seems to subvert kdrama cliches and tropes, and how almost every scene is laced with nuances or symbolisms you can't see just by watching it in its face value. I do understand, however, why this type of show won't appeal to the sensibilities of everyone. These days, people like really fast plot-based shows that spoon feed to the audience what's exactly happening. This drama, however, requires the audience to read between the lines and the dissect the scenes to appreciate it more. 

 

There was a comment on ep9 from dramabeans that I really loved:

 

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"This show is so beautiful and what really struck me about this episode was the small moments that showed how much both protagonists have changed because of each other.

That show in an earlier episode of the beach with the bench mirrors the lonely girl shot in the painting in her office. In the previous episode, it was her sitting there and then he came into shot and joined her. In this episode, it's now him sitting there alone. In contrast, she's out and about in Seoul, photographing life - observing and living it. Looking at a work of art in the open rather than one trapped in a gallery. 

He's now stronger and more thoughtful, but less carefree. She's now less bound by the suffocating strictures of her life. And of course her late-night drive to Sokcho mirrors his earlier one. This remains a relationship where each gesture of one is eventually reciprocated by the other in a way that re-enforces their equality despite the differences in age or status between them.

And that's why it's one of the most stunning shows I've ever seen - because its beauty is in its simplicity." 

 

I love how the couple started out as foils of each other but now they're slowly changing the other and are slowly adopting the good and healthy sides of each other's personalities. SH, who lived her whole life trapped in a world full of restrictions, is now a lot more adventurous and proactive. JH, who lived his whole life contemplating on romanticized ideas from books, not jaded from the bitter realities of the world, now looks at the world with a more realistic lens. In a way, JH brings out the youth that SH lost, while SH brings out the gravitas from JH (that a lot of ppl found that he lacked in the earlier episodes). I think this subtle sharing of each other's personalities can be symbolized by the slowly growing shrine of items of each other that both SH and JH have in their bedrooms. 

 

 

Side note, but do you guys think the balcony makeout scene and the ending scene image of the girl on top of the boy are implying that the couple took their relationship to the next level™ already?? 

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4 hours ago, roshzanna said:

This may sound odd and weird. Im having 2nd thought posting this, but i need to get it out of my mind. 

 

I agreed to why WS behave that way... his upbringing, his education, his mother, his environment.  He is a yes mama boy. But something popped out of my mind. Does he always follows whatever his mother told him? Or he just follows what he wants to follow and does not follow what he does not want to follow? When she told him to choose among the women in the pictures to date and clearly pointed out that she does not want SH, it seems he disobeys her and continue pursuing or should i say annoying Sh. H

So, he can practice his freedom of choice if he wants to.

Does he really love her?.... i doubt. If he does he should  prevented his mother from punishing her, but it seems he enjoy watching it afar and let it be. And then bombarded Sh gifts to show he is not bad, just to maintain and show off  an image of a loving husband.

The orchestrated divorce..... he just fed up with the situation. Its not letting Sh get out from the situation, but making himself get out .

The fake mistress... he needs an accomplice. He only breaks ties with the girl when things are not going in his plan. And an accomplice for 4 yrs, for it will hurt his ego if someone sees him eating alone, not dating or interested in women,

That scene where he said his type is SH, yes sh type....dumb, passive, no self-esteem, a housewife, a woman who is not a threat to his machismo.

Sh's pic on his phone... is it really his wall photo or is it just one of the many photos in his fone that just like many of us have forgotten to delete and forgotten by time.

If he really loves sh, why wait 2, 3, 4 years. If his real intention in the divorce is to free sh from his mother, then right after the divorce he should start doing something to let his feelings be known.

Now that Sh has rise the hotel from the dead and she is capable of loving and be loved, he's making his presence known.

Insecured, a threat to his ego, a threat to his business ....that's what Sh to him now. He can't accept what was happening to Sh now. Just like the 2 momsters, he wants Sh to go back to where she used to be. Having an interest to the hotel business may prove my point, . (I based this on ep 11 prev, tho prev are misleading and that dialogue" i need u to help in the hotel business, im not sure who said this and to whom it is said) bec in the past ep he said to mr. Choi he is not interested in the hotel business.

When he said he still like Sh... even Sh didn't believe it, bec. this is new to her ears. She knows in her heart and mind that Ws does not love her to him she is just a payment to a debt.

Whenever he smiles.... i distrust that smile.

This may raise eyebrows...yes, this is my weird analysis... but sometimes even the weirdiest thing can happen.

 

 

Your analysis about JWS is not weird at all. I have always said that JWS doesn't love CSH but just her image as the nice and obedient woman she was in the past. This explains why he still keeps the one picture he has of her. Notice that this photo was taken as if she was applying for a job: the arranged marriage. This picture doesn't represent her true personality, she has to pose in order to fit the criteria. I even doubt that he knows what love is. The moment he realized that there was some competition, he started changing. Let us remember his actions and reactions:

  • After the revelation of the "ramen date", JWS calls CSH in order to meet her. At the bar, first he compliments her for the "scandal". He describes the news as entertaining indicating that there is nothing deep behind it. I noticed that in that conversation, they are actually listening to each other and even JWS pays attention to her facial expression. He notices that she is scared. He even asks for the second request/question she had in her mind. That's when she asks him why he is still single. Initially, JWS has this impression that she finally shows interest in his love life so he is quite happy. But he is totally wrong. She would like him to be married so that their mothers would stop bothering her with the idea of getting back together. He comments that she is mad. As you can see, he is not deaf and blind here. They are actually communicating. However, CSH is getting more and more upset because he acts as if he knows her. JWS is hurt by her remark and replies that he didn't even know that she was such a goofy woman. I don't perceive this remark as a compliment rather as a critic, even CSH doesn't like his comment. And this was caught my attention: CSH reminds him to  "watch his language". After watching the other episodes, I had noticed the poor expression skills of JWS. JWS needs google and his secretary in order to write a message in the cards. Therefore he might not criticize her for her bad taste but he chose the wrong words. However, his remark "a goofy woman" indicates that this doesn't correspond to the taste of someone living in his world. He only accepts her request (not the man to be fired) on one condition: JH has nothing to do with her implying that she doesn't start a relationship with him. In that scene, JWS is trying to portray himself as a good ex-husband who can listen to her but who is helpless in front of his mother. Indirectly, he is blaming his mother for the failure in his marriage.
  • Then he really intervenes by confronting his mother: first, he doesn't want her to fire JH as it could backfire on them. Besides, he refuses that his mother meddles in his love life and marriage. Here he clearly reveals that he wants to be back with CSH but he wants her to choose him. This scene illustrates that JWS is able to speak in front of his mother, he can express his own opinion and desire. It shows that he follows what he wants but acts in front of CSH as if he was powerless. In my opinion, JWS had this idea, if he reminds CSH what kind of a mother chairman Kim is (an authoritarian mother), she might "pity" him and start loving him. But why did he choose to lie to her about the "affair" and the "love of his life"? Why did he ask for the divorce? I guess, he imagined that he had not the strength to change the situation: his mother abusing his wife and dictating what CSH should say, how she should smile, what she should do. Don't forget that later she described herself as a vegetable or being in a coma. JWS must have felt it: CSH was not a wife in his marriage but a "sleeping beauty". He knew that if he had confessed to her back then, this wouldn't have changed anything. CSH wouldn't have been moved by his love confession as she had no "heart". 
  • In the same episode, JWS decides to buy CSH a dress and in the episode 4, he visits her in Sokcho. So for him, the scandal was the signal that CSH is now living again. She has a heart and she can even smile. She is back to normal. That's why he waited for so long. As long as CSH showed no interest in a man, this meant that CSH's heart was not really beating and couldn't be moved.
  • That's also the moment he starts looking into the hotel matter as well. In the episode 4, he is informed that there was a terrible comment about CSH. He asks his secretary to investigate the matter and erase the bad comments. Later, he invites director Choi and warns him. He even announces to him that he has no interest in the hotel but Downghwa Hotel is his ex-wife's work. This wouldn't be manly to take away the result of her hard work. And this shows that JWS only begged for the divorce and asked his wife to set the things into motion. On the other hand, he washed his hands off her with the divorce contract. He wasn't the one who took matter into his own hands. He let it happen and CSH had to bear the consequences: the constant meddling of her ex-mother-in-law. But JWS knows the content but showed no concern. Even after getting divorced, CSH is still "abused" due to that terrible clause. CSH knew that if she hadn't accepted this clause, the chairman Kim would have never allowed the divorce. the divorce is not just to set her free, it is about JWS who didn't take any responsibility in it. He allowed his wife to take the whole burden. Even in the episode 3, he wonders why she blames him for the divorce. In his eyes, she signed the divorce and his mother was responsible for the failure of his marriage. Now, CSH is the one who has to live with the stigma "divorced", while his "affair" is long forgotten. JWS is still considered as a good party. 
  • The more the relationship between JH and CSH progresses, the more stubborn, blind and deaf JWS becomes. Notice the contrast between the conversation in the episode 3 and in the episode 10. In the latter, JWS calls her in order to inform her that he is at the hotel waiting for her. CSH refuses to follow his demand and tells him that she won't come. JWS still thinks that she will obey and meet him that's why he waits for her for three hours. This indicates that he still believes that he can order her. At the end, he gets mad that she didn't appear. Let us not forget that he breaks up with Soo Ah, after CSH had announced that she had a some relationship with JH. So he gets aware that their relationship is deeper and represents a danger to him and his "dream". He even thought that since CSH hadn't stopped the transfer, he had some chance. That's why he visited her at her office and confessed to her so abruptly. 
  • After witnessing them kissing, he meets CSH in order to propose to her... he still believes that his status and wealth can impress her: the hotel, living abroad aso.

To conclude, JWS is superficial and lacks knowledge. Moreover, he has always been passive and has never reflected why CSH couldn't love him at all. He thought that she was not loving him because of the abuse from his mother and she had no heart as she acted like a "vegetable". That's why he never tried to woo her before... he wasn't even sure if CSH's heart could be moved. Then he just started to oppose to his mother the moment he realized that CSH might be interested in another man. AND THIS INDICATES THAT JWS HAD THE POWER AND THE STRENGTH TO CONFRONT HIS MOTHER IN THE PAST BUT CHOSE NOT TO. Like I had mentioned it before, JWS has never thought himself, he has never reflected why CSH was behaving like that... as he didn't pay attention to her own thoughts and feelings. He never talked to her, he never listened to her pain because if he did, he would have realized what kind of man he was: weak and far from admirable. He was hurt to hear that when CSH thinks about their marriage, she remembers him as weak and responsible for her suffering. He thought, she would blame more his mother. In my opinion, JWS is a coward who ran away from any burden and responsibility and let the others (CSH, his mother) deal with his problems. 

From my point of view, JWS will show more and more interest in the hotel not in order to support CSH, quite the opposite as he realizes that he has no chance to woo her any longer. By "overtaking" the hotel, he believes that once he gets it, he can propose CSH this deal: marry me and you can have the hotel!! That's my prediction.

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@stardustvoid I can't move on either LMAO. It's just so rare to see that type of kissing in kdramas. The type that's so passionate, the couple are actually already swaying and leaning into each other. 

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1 hour ago, stardustvoid said:

Or the ending image could also allude to the scene where JH was lying in the garden reciting that poem about the stars, and CSH could represent that one star staring down at him, coming down to the earth and giving him a kiss 

 

I think the ending animation is more about the star coming to him..rather than what we all want to think :D

 

I triple checked on the balcony kissing and its definitely the clothes that were in the stills ( of them dancing and CSH leaning on KJH) ..so it should def come up in next episode..it better be..those images shouldnt be just for poster!!

 

And since they have shown the full flown romance, am expecting Ep 12 to Ep 15  ( reserving Ep 11 for more Cuba scenes:wub:)to be the peak of all issues from Monster In law and Momster..legal issues and such..with little time for kisses or romance!! though am hoping thats not the case :w00t:..I guess the romance of the other characters will pbly develop in these episodes to keep up the momentum!! 

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1 hour ago, stardustvoid said:

One could interpret it that way, given how passionate the balcony kiss was. I mean they could’ve just kissed regulary, standing up but no, they had to kiss oh so passionately while swaying side to side. The body language said so much! Loved it! Anyway, yes the writer may be trying to tell us something, so I’m guessing it’s safe to assume that they did have sex that night unless we are told otherwise in the next episode. 

 

 

In my mind, there's no doubt that they had s*x. It's the ultimate language of love and desire. When you're in a beautiful place with all the freedom to express your love, it's hard to go against what your body tells you. A man and a woman in love, in one room.. my gosh.. how can you resist it? Not to mention, they're at the right age, and both sure of each other's feelings. Go for it KJH! Make us proud lol

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One evening.........

 

"Hello, Jin Hyuk-Ssi?"

Nee.

"Have you eaten?"

Not yet. I'm still working.

"Don't skip meal, okay".

Arassoyo. Oh.. don't forget about our date tomorrow.

"Of course, not. I've already bought a new clothes for that."

Geureyo? Aahh.. I can't wait!

"Na duu. See you soon!"

Nee. Have a nice dream!

 

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I also thought about the animation at the ending of the drama. At first I found it weird that they were horizontal and the girl is on top :w00t: haha! But after a couple reruns I realise that the stars were falling with the girl. So @stardustvoid, @nikir i’m more inclined to agree with the sensible and not the sensual explanation hahaha :sweat_smile:

 

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About those negative comments. I’m not gonna lie, it is so disheartening to see the ratings dip. I was afraid this would happen if they take a break for a week. And then I realize what Kyo said in the past. If the drama is good, people will still watch it or start watching it even after the drama is aired. SHK has had blows and criticisms far greater than this so if she’s chill abou it, so should I be. 

 

Thos ratings are LOCAL. Frankly, and I’m sorry to say this, I really am starting to not care what local people think about this drama. If they are as shallow as what the ratings are showing, then we cant really do something about that. Maybe the timing is not right yet. 

 

The more I watch, the more I’m amazed about everything in it. And I’m sure you guys feel the same way too.

 

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Can't wait for the balcony's scenes next week

Hope we can stay alive.

 

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