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[Drama 2018-2019] Encounter / Boyfriend, 남자친구

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10 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@foolmoondance The last scene is really extraordinary because JH is doing the exact opposite of JWS. Both are helping her but in such different ways. While JWS just asks to delete the bulletin board and through hacking discover the identity of the slander, JH decides to protect her in the open. He lets people see that they have just a normal relationship, nothing to gossip. It only took a few weeks for JH to confess that he has some feelings for her, whereas the ex-husband hasn't found the courage yet to confess his love for her after two years. JH is courageous because he decides to face on the problems, while JWS is using little tricks in order to avoid problems. He asked for a divorce because he had fallen in love with another woman... he believed that if he let her go, she would return to him at some point. He uses another trick with the dress. He is too scared to show his true feelings, hence he is giving her the gift as if it was an insignificant gesture. On the other hand, JH reveals to CSH that he put a lot of thoughts before buying the present and offering it to her. He had to convince her and at first, it seems that he had failed... JWS only wrote just a few words. To me, the efforts coming from both men are different. Striking is that JWS has not realized that he should have become close to Nam in order to get closer to JWS.  

I totally agreed with these notices. 

 

In addition, even ex-husband helped CSH in some situations which his mom made such troubled situations, it might be just prompt considerate actions without much attempt, not pure love. 

Many Match making couples can be successful in marriage life if they or either of them try to be good to each other in time BUT I don’t think this ex-husband used to show his love to pursue her heart during their 2-year marriage. 

 

This ex-husband has really had another woman who asked him about progress in dating status during the dinner. 

 

Plus, the fact that “Interest, Like, and Love” are mutual feeling between two persons, it does not mean CSH has to feel good in couple/lover way with her ex-husband’s recent actions eg. help on the artist’s troubled situation by his mom, buy a cloth with pushing the seller to the corner with money.

 

Would a woman need to like or love the man with this headstrong and crazy rich expressions?

Would a woman appreciate a man who look down others and shows habits like money can buy anyone and anything? (eg. Buying ton of clothes for the seller in order to get the unavailable item.)

 

 

 

By the way:  I, my friends, and my relatives who sometimes watch K-dramas esp. starting when K-Drama ends because we don’t wanna watch sad ending ones as K-Drama has occasionally been. 

 

For the Encounter/ Boyfriend, after formal announcement of Park Bo Gum and Song Hye Kyo,  we did not intend to watch because we did not feel any chemistry due to perception of age gap and Song Hye Kyo’s marriage status with Park Bo Gum’s close Hyung. 

However, we all have changed our mind and have started watching closely because their acting skills to portray the hard-to-believe roles so well, their aura of hallyu stars and their contrast chemistry. 

 

Park Bo Gum’s acting and rhythm has been changed and fine tuned suit KJH perfectly. Park Bo Gum’s KJH is not just bright and has free spirit but his KJH can also show very thoughtful dimension and thoroughly analyze situations sharply and wittily as audiences can feel his reaction in the role to people around CSH eg. the secretary and Mr.Nam. 

 

Song Hye Kyo can make audiences feel the position of hotel CEO and a daughter of a politician in the strong lime light with divorced status in the chaebol family

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Encounter' Episode 5 Spoilers: Jin Hyuk & Soo Hyun Finally Reveal Their Relationship To The Public

BY JESSICA RAPIR / DEC 07, 2018 05:27 AM EST
   
jin-hyuk-and-soo-hyun-reveals-their-relationship-to-the-public-in-encounter-episode-5-photo-by-tvn-drama-youtube-screenshot.png?w=750 Jin Hyuk and Soo Hyun reveals their relationship to the public in 'Encounter' Episode 5. Photo by tvN Drama/YouTube Screenshot
 

 

Jin Hyuk has mustered all the courage he has to reveal himself as the mysterious man in the news article who had ramyeon with Soo Hyun at the rest stop. In the upcoming Encounter Episode 5, the two will be out in the public and Soo Hyun is no longer scared of what others will say about her.

It looks like Soo Hyun (Song Hye Kyo) has finally decided to be happy than to think about the opinion of others, her mother, and her former mother-in-law. In the teaser for Episode 5, Soo Hyun and Jin Hyuk (Park Bo Gum) are seen walking together in a park. At one point, Jin Hyuk's arm is seen wrapped around Soo Hyun's shoulder.

In the previous episode, both Jin Hyuk and Soo Hyun showed courage when they continue to see each other amidst the gossip about the latter. Soo Hyun's secretary even asked Jin Hyuk to keep his distance from Soo Hyun as the slightest flaw that other will find about the hotel CEO could be blown out by the press. Soo Hyun herself also told Jin Hyuk that she doesn't want to get involved with him anymore before it makes her uncomfortable.

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Despite the discouragement, Jin Hyuk showed that no one can decide on how he should live his life than himself. Towards the end of Episode 4, he saved Soo Hyun from an embarrassing situation. Jin Hyuk also courageously asked his boss in front of the hotel's employees to go out on a date with him. The employees were shocked to find out that it was Jin Hyuk who spent time with their CEO at a rest stop.

Meanwhile, Soo Hyun's ex-husband, Jung Woo Seok (Jang Seung Jo), asks someone to look into Jin Hyuk's background. It looks like Woo Seok still care about his former wife and might be considering his mother's demand for the former couple to get back together.

In the previous episode, Jin Hyuk showed authority to Soo Hyun when the latter got involved in an accident. He is expected to show to Soo Hyun that she can depend on him as they move forward with their relationship.

Encounter viewers are also expecting to see more sweet moments between the lead characters of the tvN drama. Soo Hyun and Jin Hyuk shared a touching moment together in Episode 3. Due to exhaustion, Jin Hyuk slept at Soo Hyun's shoulder just like what happened between them in Cuba. However, during their first meeting in Cuba, it was Soo Hyun who rested her head on Jin Hyuk's shoulder.

Meanwhile, Encounter has maintained it high viewership ratings for its latest episode. Song and Park's melodrama scored 11.46 percent in Seoul area for its Thursday's episode. Encounter airs every Wednesdays and Thursday at 9:30 p.m. on tvN.....source credit @http://en.koreaportal.com/articles/46416/20181207/encounter-episode-5-spoilers-jin-hyuk-soo-hyun-finally-reveal-their-relationship-to-the-public.htm

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I think Kim Sook might be a SHK fan, she never fails to parody her new drama.Seoulmate 2 did a parody of some of the scenes.

 

 

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12 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@dvrels @aisling @chdom Okay, I haven't watched the latest episode yet but I am not developing any 2nd lead syndrome. Why?  Because despite his good actions, we shouldn't forget that he did hurt CSH a lot in the past. Even if he is "trying" to protect her from his mother now, he didn't really protect her in the past and he knows that. Remember that

- his mother knows that JWS has feelings for CSH. So when he asked for the divorce, she knew what JWS wanted to do: let her go but at some point, CSH would come back to him. JWS hasn't let go of CSH and she knows that. That's why there is this terrible divorce contract. CSH is forced to attend to the events related to her ex-family.  

- CSH thinks that JWS is not allowed to live like he wants to but in my opinion, she is wrong. She is just projecting her own "thoughts" and life onto JWS. Sure, JWS must have told her that he was forced to marry her. But was it really the case? I doubt it. Why? We were shown that JWS knows how to pressure his mother and to get what he wants, f. ex. she even agreed to the divorce because JWS wanted the divorce. I doubt that she will punish him for intervening with the painting therefore he is able to make such a move. All this proves to him that JWS has much more power over his mother than CSH has over her own mother.

- JWS thought that his mother didn't know that he had feelings for CSH but he was mistaken. We have the divorce contract as proof. So was it really an arranged marriage for JWS ? Maybe his mother noticed that he was attracted to her hence his mother choose to help him to get her. CSH had a good pedigree (social status, beauty, reputation aso) that's why she thought, this marriage would be so perfect. She would please her son, her company would benefit from it, just like CSH's father. But I sense that JWS might have told CSH that he was in the same situation.

Finally, we see that he doesn't want her to date any man... as he asked her not to date JH. So in his mind, she is still his wife. He hurt her, when he said that he had fallen in love with another woman. His words made her feel unattractive aso. JWS thought that CSH would fall in love with him as time passed on. A ridiculous idea, especially if he doesn't even try to woo her. He doesn't even try to understand her... all this time he is more focused on his feelings and himself than CSH: waiting for her to love him back. The bought dress was not a smart move for two reasons: it showed again that JWS can buy anything he wants (expensive, limited edition, aso) and he doesn't try to find something that would please her. Moreover the dress was in black. Notice that all this time, except in Cuba, CSH has been wearing cold colours (grey, black, white, blue) and the dress is also black. JH has been offering her shoes (brown) and a lipstick (red). All these colours are linked to earth and warmth... That's why his presents could symbolize as if he was bringing life and warmth to her. Moreover, the lipstick is different: this is not so expensive and unique... it won't attract attention like the dress (limited edition). CSH is looking for normality and not attention that's what JWS hasn't understood after so many years. He doesn't understand her loneliness, if he did, then he should have tried to connect to her. However, he is hiding many things from her and the most important thing: he loves her and has always loved her, therefore CSH is still unaware of his feelings for her. That's why she doesn't need to hide that she doesn't want to get back together... why should she think about it, when she had been confronted with these terrible words: I love another woman and I want to marry her!! 

 

Don't get me wrong: I don't hate him at all. But he is partially responsible for CSH's misery.

@alekaonu @USAFarmgirl @icyphoenix         

 

@bebebisous33  your thoughts helped me about the drama and JWS. my humble opinion, he wasted all of his time while they were together.  while she was struggling with his mother , he should protect her ( shows love, attention) and could have saved their marriage. He did not reach out to her and would not let his pride down .  Now she got someone who reach out to her then he asked her not to date JH.

( i am waiting for your opinion as well as other lovely chingus ( @twtwb and others)  sorry if you already posted about ep 4, i havenot checked it out yet)

 

Of course there is divided opinions about JH's ending scene ( creating quite a lot of buzz)... most of JH fan - ( what about his family, what about his peaceful,carefree happy life, why he wants to involve in this nasty politics/ chabol problem/ he can just choose to be quiet and then helps her like her ex-husband ) . most drama fan / SH Fan - who doesn't like to be protected especially facing embarrassment situation in public.

 

 

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My thought about eps 3 and 4.. I feel eps 2 is better and makes my heart fluttering and smiling :wub:,

but eps 3 and 4 when they are together I feel a bit less excitement, less sparks than eps 2, I couldn't feel that they are missing each other or very happy when they met, maybe its just me. I hope next eps I could feel more love between the two of them.

BUT ending of eps 4 is very good.

I also like KJH brother and his assistant manager who has birthday, they bright up the drama. park bogum as KJH is very cute, very rare, he does'nt play games, internet, sns , he watch movies with his family , at weekend he reads books and helping at his parents store, he has good friend and kind-hearted, he's like an angel.

my hopes: her ex-husband could find a woman too and stop his feeling for CSH so that his mother would leave CSH too, CSH 's father will support CSH and KJH (either still go to blue house without help of MIL or stop politics).

sorry for my poor grammar.

 

 

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we see in this the self-awareness of the writer of what is tired (*edit: i meant to say  ":tried" but then "it could be tired" too) and tested formula in writing dramas, particularly the romance genre -- "that fate" "the universe conspiring" "the gods having a day playing with the lives of our hero and heroin"  thing and yet we buy  into, heart soul and gray matter, because of how the writer is honest about it. no need to be pretentious bec her character JH has been created with such gift for reflection about the world he is in and has the words to make sense of it (again too, another boost for why reading is important in people's lives).

 

and again, delightfully we encounter, that roles-reversal motiff  that the writer has capitalized on. thank you  @gigivillaceran for pointing that out. i almost missed it being so engrossed in the other beautiful stuff happening.

 

and I must say how there are so much beauty in the way the cinematography has been approached from various angles. there are those dreamy scenes, and then those photos- within-a-photo scenes (ah the morning window scene with SH and JH out on the beach bench, i would have that printed out and framed or better yet i should take up art classes and make me my own version). these are also tying very well with SH's love of images (the hand-drawn paintings on actual canvasses ) and JH 's (the ones painted with light thru black and white photography).


 speaking of cinematography, if there is a link to a SNS that belongs to the cinematographer/s, PLEASE SHARE CHINGUS.  i remember, during PBG's Moonlight Drawn by Clounds/Love in the Moonlight run, an IG accnt of one of the cinematographers (i think) was found by fans and it was such a delight just browsing thru them and well getting bits and pieces of BTS stories. TNX IN ADVANCE!

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11 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

You're welcome! ;)But honestly, my goal was not to convince you to change your opinion. :D I just wanted to outline different aspects that are not shown and said in the drama but can only be seen, if you analyze the characters and situation. I have the impression that the writer wants to avoid the clichés of a typical second lead: he wasn't a nice person from the start or becomes so jealous that he starts hurting JH aso. Right now, JWS is acting like a normal man with qualities and flaws which is quite refreshing.

   

The reason why JWS failed in his marriage is due to his environment and education. He was raised by a mother who thinks that everyone values money, power and social status as the most important things in the world. Notice that his mother said that if CSH was about to lose the hotel, she would come back to the family J. because the company (the D. hotel) represents a lot of income and power. To conclude, in her eyes, everyone wants to be that rich and powerful: people envy her and her son.

She thinks that this applies to CSH too. And JWS is not different. Based on his actions and the synopsis, JWS thought that his social status and wealth would make any woman fall for him. He thought that CSH would be not different hence he waited for her.  But both were wrong. CSH is more concern about freedom, friends and family than power and money. Sure, she never had any worries about money due to her father's career but she is seeking for normality and simplicity, whereas JWS and his mother are the exact opposite. They like being in the center of the attention: a dress from a limited edition, her parties where CSH has to attend aso. That's why he fails to see and understand and why it can not work. Living with him will always make her feel lonely as she is always in the spotlight which she hates.    

No don't feel bad because you think I lost interest to ex husband because of you, that's not like that. I said I start to lose interest to ex-husband, not completely lose interest in him. I'm still interesting in how he will keep protecting CSH from his own mother. Hopefully he wouldn't want CSH to get back with him.

 

@dahae2006 yeah I agreed with you, he waste all his time while they were together, when you love someone you should make a move, even it's hard to face the reality when you got rejected but if you never tried you'll never know

 

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ENCOUNTER is also a tale about Time and I would even go as far as saying, it is the third person between and around our two main story characters.

 

first, Time has "conspired" with the rest of the universe to bring these two characters together in particular moments and spaces.   

 

how the images of  time pieces (SH always looking at her wrist, she surrounded by all that wall pieces showing various time zones), the props (35mm film camera, radio cassette recorder) from certain eras that JH's character so loved are so well-placed details. this to me is what makes this tv drama a good collaboration among different storytelling medium (putting out that literary narrative and the audiovisual storytellers knowing exactly how to put that across from their end).


the precision of the moments that the events happen, and the fluidity and consistency of the character's  responses to the situation,  puts the timelessness of the narrative.

 

and so it appeals to a wide range of audience in terms of age group  viewership.  but i guess, people in my age bracket (pre-millennial) are into it because of we've had the benefit of time lived and the still possibilities of halfway more.

 

this YT video tells this story  of Time and the MV of OST #1 is but  a fitting acknowledgement  of this other character.

 

 

 

 

(i know i posted this before but it's just so beautiful not to share again )

 

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4 hours ago, icyphoenix said:

CSH believes that both were trapped in a lifeless marriage but she was still loyal to it.. She didn't break the marriage.. It was her husband who did it by telling that he had another woman n he wants to marry her.. Being trapped in a lifeless marriage, she might have thought at least one has found love n wants to be free.. So she readily rescued herself n her husband.. But we still don't know what happened inside their marriage.. Hope we get some glimpses of it.. But ppl r bitter coz he said he had a relationship outsidewhereas it's clear that he still loves her.. It's just immature of him.. I still pity him n CSH.. I consider them to be trapped!! Plus as u can see CSH has never had a day on her life, Now she has learnt that her life is precious n she vows that she won't be sold by her mom once again.. I hope we get more insight on their life!! 

but what loyalty if you make your husband feel as if he is not needed or don't show any feeling towards it. It wasn't a loveless marriage, it was a loveless marriage for her, but she chose it knowing very well. Plus its a marriage, not roommates. Can you imagine a married life, where you come back home and find your wife/hubby staring blankly into your face? Given what we have been shown, it seems husband still tried, she not so much.

 

Just as everyone claims that hubby should have been attentive to know what CSH wants, clearly she wasn't attentive to know and observe what hubby wanted and why he did what he did. 

 

I see more as a desperate act to rile her up, to get some hope that she cares. I can sense his suffocation with complete rejection from CSH from the beginning. CSH's is a weak character, tht's fine everyone has her/his own journey. But her weakness has hampered someone else's world leaving her with no responsibility.. which is unfair. 

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2 hours ago, ahdrianaa said:

I think Park Na Rae might be a SHK fan, PNR never fails to parody her new drama.Seoulmate 2 did a parody of some of the scenes.

 

 

the one with short hair is not park na rae, she is  a much senior comedian. on another variety with mung hun

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31 minutes ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

but what loyalty if you make your husband feel as if he is not needed or don't show any feeling towards it. It wasn't a loveless marriage, it was a loveless marriage for her, but she chose it knowing very well. Plus its a marriage, not roommates. Can you imagine a married life, where you come back home and find your wife/hubby staring blankly into your face? Given what we have been shown, it seems husband still tried, she not so much.

 

Just as everyone claims that hubby should have been attentive to know what CSH wants, clearly she wasn't attentive to know and observe what hubby wanted and why he did what he did. 

 

I see more as a desperate act to rile her up, to get some hope that she cares. I can sense his suffocation with complete rejection from CSH from the beginning. CSH's is a weak character, tht's fine everyone has her/his own journey. But her weakness has hampered someone else's world leaving her with no responsibility.. which is unfair. 

Yes I do feel that there was utterly a failure of the relationship from both sides.. I do feel that they weren't suited for each other!! I know she married him for her father, n etc.. Their relationship lacked understanding n warmth!! I think both were in their own world, refusing to come out!! But as we say a woman in most cases doesn't want to express her wishes, she wishes her man to understand her.. Like CSH said that he never understood her but she also forgot that she too never understood him.. Love is done by expressing.. If her hubby was little more expressive, she might have opened up as she is doing with KJH.. U can see she still has some reservations towards KJH too.. A failed marriage doesn't lie on one party but in both.. I just hope both find their true happiness in their own way soon!! 

P. S. I really want to see a show based on this concept? Rich boy n girl trapped in marriage n finding their love.. Is there any show like that? 

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I know some might blame CSH for her failed marriage (KJH's mother for example). To me, CSH isn't a character without flaws. She grew up being told what to do, had to fake her happiness for the sake of her ambitious parents, forced to be in a loveless marriage and treated like an object by her MIL...while I do feel sorry for her ex-husband, maybe he just wasn't the right person to crack the wall she built for years. 

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Wow! E4 ending is a cliffhanger. I don't know if this is allowed here but only half of my butt was sitting in anticipation of her response. By the look of her smile, an affirmative response from her will serve as a revelation that will shook the lights out of all those present in the lobby. This drama is looking good as it progresses.  

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First time posting in this thread, hello everyone :)

 

Regarding  CSH's ex, I do feel sympathy towards him.

 

Yes, his marriage with CSH didn't work but I don't see it as entirely his fault. 

 

He loves her but he cannot make her love him, given the strained living conditions of their life. Before JH's arrival in SH's life, SH and WS pretty much suffered the same way in their life: two ambitious families (mostly the mothers) that sacrifice their children's happiness for their power.  They weren't allowed to live their lives the way they wanted.  Didn't his mom said SH was sulking all the time she was his wife?  How do we know if SH tried to love him for not? Both accepted to get married but It is hard for love to blossom in the suffocating environment they live and the scrutiny of media. None of them had enough determination to break free  and stand up for themselves or they have to turn their back on their families.  Without enough flashbacks about their marriage, I think it is too early to say WS doesn't understand SH or is also a source of misery for her. 

 

At least, for me, WS did something good for SH: he intentionally hurt her so that she could be free from his family. Bet he didn't know his wicked mom could still do whatever she could to tie SH to his family like this. At least, his move allowed SH to breath a little bit easier. That tainted his image in SH's eyes and also the public as a cheater - it's an act of letting go.  He couldn't stand up for SH during 2 years but he did what he thought would be the best for her. 

 

I am not sure why people think he waits for SH to fall in love with him after that move. He does not show any act of pursuing her nor explain his reason for fear that his mother will make it worse. He does not even use kind words when meeting her. For years, he puts up a show with his fake mistress for SH. Only when the so-called scandal breaks out and he knows that his mom is actively trying to get them back together that he shows his true concerns and tries to protect her from behind the scene. Note that he doesn't even try to let SH know he helps her.

 

There are many different ways to display love. For me, WS really loves SH. He is just not the right man for her. He can't stand up for her the way JH does or make her happy because his life is also miserable in its own way.  I hope he will find his comfort afterwards.

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On 12/7/2018 at 7:35 AM, gumtaek said:
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Interesting that while the writer of the article did an insightful piece about the language used in the drama the thing that stood out most to me is the sense that the writer of the drama is subtly preparing the audience for an ending where the couple does not end up together. "I believe it is meaningful when a person lets someone else in his/her heart, even if it's only for a brief moment."

 

I may well be wrong, since I do not speak Korean, but that's where the translation guided my thinking.

 

The article made me think about a nice bit of analysis that was posted after the first week the drama aired comparing it to Roman Holiday. That's a rom-com where the encounter had to be enough because the couple could not end together. 

 

I'm hoping that I will be able to enjoy the drama as it unfolds and avoid predictive analysis.

 

This week's episodes have been making me do something I haven't done in quite a while.

 

When I had the time and focus to read novels I'd sometimes come across one where my affection for characters would have me cringe every time they seem to be putting themselves in a situation that would lead a hurt or humiliation.  Just before that would happen I'd have to close the book and walk away because I wouldn't bear to be in the presence of their pain.

 

This week I had to take a break from the last 10 minutes of both episodes. Once Jin Hyuk borrowed his hyung's truck and headed out I had to leave the story until the next day when episode 4 was available. On Thursday I had to take an hour break from the story as the Jin Hyuk watch the vultures descend as Soon Hyun was leaving workand I could sense the tension in him as he debated with himself if he should take action.

 

In both instances the outcome was way better than I'd feared, but I suspect I might continue to abandon the last ten minutes of the show until my heart settles down and is prepared to deal with whatever comes.

 

At Staff: I tried to remove the pictures, except for the one with the text I was referring to, but the system wouldn't allow me to.

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@jl08: Thanks for posting  much of what I wanted to comment on about Episode 4., about hate comments, and about trusting our judgment as viewers of the drama. I still have several I want to share and I hope to post these later.

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Like others, I think it's still way too early for me to form a positive or negative opinion about the ex-husband. I'll wait for the drama to flesh out his motivations or give more background info, I guess. Personally, I'm not really that charmed by the hidden-love trope anymore after years of watching kdramas. Doing good deeds behind someone's back does not really make you more deserving of a person's love because love is a mutual thing and it must be expressed. It's like the Dukseon/Taek/Junghwan issue in Reply 1988, although this isn't really the place to discuss that. I do feel some sympathy for him though if the fan-speculations are correct about the nature of his relationship with CSH, but it's not much yet to make me develop a second lead syndrome. 

 

Anyway, it's only been 4 episodes and the drama already laid out conflicts I expected to happen much later, so I'm really wondering how the rest of the drama will turn out. I hope this won't mean that those conflicts will be dragged out though, but that the scriptwriter has something more in store for us in the coming episodes. The most refreshing thing about this drama so far is that it gives us the traditional tropes but they are executed in new ways. Some people are saying it's predictable or boring but people didn't really expect what happened at the end of episode 4 -- it surprised us all. Most importantly, it gave a new depth to Jinhyuk's character. I've been seeing comments saying he's a flat bubbly character but I don't think those are fair at all because we've yet to see how he seriously responds to conflicts. His decision at the end of the 4th episode showed that there's more to him than we may see. Interfering with the bullying that happened at the end of the 4th episode seems stupid, theoretically. But his decision to protect CSH seemed like a calculated move and not just something he did without thinking at the heat of the moment, so I'm curious how he'll manage challenging authority when he's in a position of subordination? I wonder if he has a trick up his sleeve. I want to get to know Jinhyuk better. 

 

 I sincerely hope this drama continues to surprise us. 

 

 

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