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1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

@nikir @gumtaek @Far^away @boredahjumma I doubt that JWS created that Co-CEO seat in order to help CSH so that he plans to give her all his shares from the start. 

 

 

I beg to disagree. I didn't say he did plan to give all of his shares to her. Now or later. Maybe my words skewed toward that train of thought so I'm sorry for confusing everyone who read it. :sweatingbullets:

 

Let me arrange my words better. I think he came to Donghwa primarily because he thought that if he gained the hotel, then SH would have no choice but to go to him, since the hotel means everything to her. I also believe he think that he is protecting her right on Donghwa by snatching the hotel himself since he did it without his mother's help. He definitely up to something, and this is implied when he doesn't say a word when his mom asked if he also had the same intention as hers for acquiring Donghwa.

 

For me, at the end of the episode SH just delivered a slap on his face by ditching the death anniversary event. It means the hotel is no longer everything to her. But KJH is!!!

 

I can't wait to see how his face contorted with anger when he realised the one who came was Sec Jang and Mr Nam. Serves you right! 

 

To Soo Hyun, you go girl!:thumbsup:

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okay.. why am I quoting myself. Sorry.

 

To add something i like best from episode 11/12 (cant remember already) is when Jin Myung barged in singing. Hillarious! I can't forget how annoyed KJH is! :lol:

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1 hour ago, nikir said:

Agree ..not from the start ..but am hoping that he will give up control as a parting gift once he realizes that they are meant to be and that he cannot protect her..

But I hope Monster in law, CSH's mother and Dir. Choi get the punishment they deserve ..I think being rejected by CSH will pbly be the biggest punishment for WS..but once he sees his mother in prison or brought down by society he may turn a new leaf...hope!! 

Well, I have to disagree with you on this. His intention was never to protect her... He has always been using that as an excuse, even when he started meddling in the affairs of Donghwa Hotel. He just wants to possess her. He knows from JMJ and the uncle that he has been blamed for not protecting CSH that's why he acts as if he is trying to protect her, this explains why the uncle agreed to side with JWS first. But his real intention is to have CSH, nothing more... so he doesn't need to realize that he can not protect her because it is not his true intention. He just needs to act as if he was protecting her, yet he allowed his mother to corner CSH. He didn't stop her and JWS was actually hoping, CSH would come to the death anniversary.

 

For me, JWS needs to realize that he has never truly loved her... it was more an obsession as he couldn't bear the thought that there was a woman who was not interested in him. Don't forget that we were told many times that JWS was really popular among women (l. f. ex. at the shop, where he met CSH per coincidence). 

 

@Far^away When I tagged you among others with my former reply, it was because you were discussing if JWS will give all his shares to CSH as he wants to help her and I didn't want to quote all the posts. I know that you had a similar point of view like me. I didn't misunderstand you.

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On 1/11/2019 at 8:42 AM, philosophie said:

I could see her running an art gallery. And succeeding effortlessly seeing how amazing she’s been as CEO. If she remains CEO till the end, that’s fine too, but this evil MIl and annoying ex hubby have a lot of redeeming to do. 

it would be nice to see CSH runs an art gallery and KJH as photographer in travel magazine where he's in the article before.

I also thought about CSH cut ties with Donghwa.. but then since she raised the hotel and not to mention other people who helped her run the hotel..

 

I'll have no exit too from KJH's charm, how to move on?

can I hope they will be partnered again in future drama ? (become drama couple like tom hanks and meg ryan) 

 

even the scene at the playground looked very romantic for me, both are very relaxed and with sweet background music..

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2 hours ago, rosiepeonie188 said:

 

How i cherish everyone in this forum.. each one of you gave thoughtful insights which not only relate to the drama but also very relatable to our own life.

Thank you for your beautiful words,

@roshzanna

 

In Woo Suk case, i agree, even if Woo Suk turn out to the noble idiot, trying to protect SH from his mom, he is however, doesn't need to hurt Jin Hyuk and So Hyun with his words. Even if it's in the name of Oppa's Love trying to find out whether Jin Hyuk worthy enough for Soo Hyun.

So Hyun on the other hand, i believe, she would choose to step down, rather than receive the remaining shares from Woo Sook. Remember how Woo Suk tried to help her with Sokcho painter? She decided not to accept as she know, she will forever be in Taegyong circle. 

 

I'm quoting Roshzanna here, 

 

It is when she has nothing that she finds the road to happiness, freedom, the love of her life.

You might be onto something: JWS might propose her the shares as a bait, just like he did with the painting but CSH refuses in order to cut ties definitely with him. She doesn't want to be indebted towards him because she knows, he would use it to bind her to him forever. He would keep mentioning this so that CSH would be forced to do him a favor.

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59 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

 

@Far^away When I tagged you among others with my former reply, it was because you were discussing if JWS will give all his shares to CSH as he wants to help her and I didn't want to quote all the posts. I know that you had a similar point of view like me. I didn't misunderstand you.

 Oh. Ditto!:D

 

anyway. 

 

Rewatching the episodes again, does anybody notice during a flashback scene where CSH send off JWS and her father in law to the car. 

 

In that scene, the only one who was smiling brightly was JWS and he even affectionately tapping her shoulder before going off. 

 

CSH has a blank look on her face and Chairwoman was giving her a serious side look. 

 

I wonder what was happening in that brief scene. I’m hoping for some clarification but am I asking too much? :sweatingbullets:

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6 minutes ago, Far^away said:

 Oh. Ditto!:D

 

anyway. 

 

Rewatching the episodes again, does anybody notice during a flashback scene where CSH send off JWS and her father in law to the car. 

 

In that scene, the only one who was smiling brightly was JWS and he even affectionately tapping her shoulder before going off. 

 

CSH has a blank look on her face and Chairwoman was giving her a serious side look. 

 

I wonder what was happening in that brief scene. I’m hoping for some clarification but am I asking too much? :sweatingbullets:

This underlines that as long as he had her by his side, he was happy. However, her coldness must have burdened him more and more.

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Amazing analysis chingus! Oh how I’m gonna miss all of these once the drama ends

 

Still on the fence about WS’ true intentions, but for his sake, I hope it favors SH and JH in the end

 

With 4 episodes left, I wonder how it’s all gonna tie in together but I’m confident the writer will do it beautifully. Seems like he/she has finally found her niche

 

I love, love the ending animation of episode 12 with the wolf disintegrating. Someone pointed out earlier that it could represent CSH’s past and I totally agree

 

I’d still want her to keep the hotel and be CEO but I’m also not opposed to the idea of her running away/pursuing other passions with JH. Operating the hotel in Cuba seems like a nice idea, although realistically I’m not sure if the actual living conditions in Havana will suit 2 people from a first world country

 

Oh, and CSH definitely booked a room for the lovers’ thing in March right? I hope that’s not a random PPL? PD owes us one from being such a tease LMAO

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I have been thinking about this:

- What if JWS proposes to CSH his shares willingly hoping that this bait might tempt her. However, CSH refuses like the painting as she doesn't want to be indebted to him.

- As reaction, JWS changes his tactics: he threatens her with this deal: she takes the shares and she can become the real owner of Donghwa Hotel, in return she needs to cut ties with JH. If she doesn't take the shares, then he will take away the hotel from her. 

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1 hour ago, Far^away said:

okay.. why am I quoting myself. Sorry.

 

To add something i like best from episode 11/12 (cant remember already) is when Jin Myung barged in singing. Hillarious! I can't forget how annoyed KJH is! :lol:

LOL Jin Myung is that annoying little brother. Some of us have siblings like that that ruin moments.

And him trying to Tattle tale to his parents about his hyung singing to his GF and JH bribing him.

The funny faces he makes behind their father.

It gave me a good laugh & brought back memories of my brother & I. :)

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@bebebisous33, love all of your posts analyzing JWS and his hidden motives. From the way he operates, he’s a very cowardly man. Like you’ve observed repeatedly, his manner is directly opposite to JH who is upfront and straightforward. For me, JWS sitting hidden outside of CSH’s house a few times now is perfectly indicative of his dishonest relationship with CSH from the beginning up to now. I find everything about him cowardly including dealing with his mother, the hotel director and JH. In particular, the way he relies on his status and wealth to attempt to discourage and denigrate JH tells me more than enough about his true character. The way he used the incident at the Cuba hotel to establish himself at Donghwa hotel, knowing full well the true cause of the issue, further solidifies his hypocrisy for me. His motives show that he’s there to attempt to open the door that CSH has closed because she has refused to let him in and he’s also there undoubtedly to gain leverage over JH and the possibility to intimidate him as he has already done at least twice (in the hallway and in the garage) to JH. However, what I find most disturbing is that all of this he does in secret like a snake. At least his mother is direct with her nastiness which though not palatable, it at least let people know where they stand in her estimation.

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Jack and Rose (Titanic)....I mean Jin-Hyuk and Soo-Hyun JinSoo(Encounter):joy:DwepVbLXQAUQJn7?format=jpg&name=900x900DwfJDNrVAAAtrf4?format=jpg&name=small

Credit @Aaltafunissa twitter

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40 minutes ago, celebrianna said:

@bebebisous33, love all of your posts analyzing JWS and his hidden motives. From the way he operates, he’s a very cowardly man. Like you’ve observed repeatedly, his manner is directly opposite to JH who is upfront and straightforward. For me, JWS sitting hidden outside of CSH’s house a few times now is perfectly indicative of his dishonest relationship with CSH from the beginning up to now. I find everything about him cowardly including dealing with his mother, the hotel director and JH. In particular, the way he relies on his status and wealth to attempt to discourage and denigrate JH tells me more than enough about his true character. The way he used the incident at the Cuba hotel to establish himself at Donghwa hotel, knowing full well the true cause of the issue, further solidifies his hypocrisy for me. His motives show that he’s there to attempt to open the door that CSH has closed because she has refused to let him in and he’s also there undoubtedly to gain leverage over JH and the possibility to intimidate him as he has already done at least twice (in the hallway and in the garage) to JH. However, what I find most disturbing is that all of this he does in secret like a snake. At least his mother is direct with her nastiness which though not palatable, it at least let people know where they stand in her estimation.

Thanks a lot for the compliment. I agree with you on this: his mother has never hidden her thoughts and feelings in front of CSH and others. JWS is as scary as his mother... a stalker in reality.

 

The thing is that now he can not fire KJH as he is the face of Donghwa Hotel due to his action. JWS uses his money in order to appear strong and "brave", while in reality, he is really weak... the fact that he described JH's action as foolishness tells us a lot about him. He really thinks that there is nothing more superior than money and status. I really want him to fall off his pedestal. He really believes that he loves CSH but he doesn't. He didn't read any book about love hence he doesn't know what it is hence he can not recognize his true feelings: obsession, possessiveness but not love.

It would be interesting if CSH confronts him about it.

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1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

I have been thinking about this:

- What if JWS proposes to CSH his shares willingly hoping that this bait might tempt her. However, CSH refuses like the painting as she doesn't want to be indebted to him.

- As reaction, JWS changes his tactics: he threatens her with this deal: she takes the shares and she can become the real owner of Donghwa Hotel, in return she needs to cut ties with JH. If she doesn't take the shares, then he will take away the hotel from her. 

JWS would rather take this offer to JH than CSH.. coz he wants CSH to come to him.. if there is no wind to sweep CSH then JWS believes that she would go to him.. but JH or no JH, CSH would never go back to WS.. this he will eventually realize and then he would back off..

But JH would be in a dilemma for CSHs sake if this happens coz the hotel means the world to her..acc to him.. this is where the letter under the tree may come if that story was to be foreshadowing

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Someone in this forum asked about JinSoo relationship timeline, how long have they been together. Well luckily our writer and PD-nim were aware about this..

How JH keep his memorable moments with Soo Hyun make us easy to trace

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What i'm curious is, which moment JinSoo became BF&GF?

- last date before JH moved to Sokcho

- NYE Kiss

- Getting back together after break

- JH love confession in Cuba

 

What do you think, chingus?

 

Anyway i found this when i tried to track back JinSoo's timeline

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The crew were clearly behind them :D.. for what i've seen, PD-nim seems like perfectionist, the fact that this half second scene with crew in it must be frustated for him.. That's OK, PD nim, i just realized that after replay it for dozen times :D 

just give JinSoo happy ending, will you pleasee

 

 

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2 minutes ago, nikir said:

JWS would rather take this offer to JH than CSH.. coz he wants CSH to come to him.. if there is no wind to sweep CSH then JWS believes that she would go to him.. but JH or no JH, CSH would never go back to WS.. this he will eventually realize and then he would back off..

But JH would be in a dilemma for CSHs sake if this happens coz the hotel means the world to her..acc to him.. this is where the letter under the tree may come if that story was to be foreshadowing

But since she decided to join his family, JH is aware that he means more than the hotel. JWS could propose this to JH believing that he might tempt him but this is not even possible as JH said in the last episode that he can not live without her.

 

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2 hours ago, mellinadear said:

LOL Jin Myung is that annoying little brother. Some of us have siblings like that that ruin moments.

And him trying to Tattle tale to his parents about his hyung singing to his GF and JH bribing him.

The funny faces he makes behind their father.

It gave me a good laugh & brought back memories of my brother & I. :)

Even about him almost telling that a girlfriend would be uncomfortable to visit her boyfriend's parents.. cute.. this is one drama where none of the secondary characters make me cringe or skip the scenes.. no over the top scenes anywhere.. even sec and LDC is cute.. but the brother scenes are really funny n realistic

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9 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@nikir @gumtaek @Far^away @boredahjumma I doubt that JWS created that Co-CEO seat in order to help CSH so that he plans to give her all his shares from the start. IF so, why would he visit JH and warn him to stay away from his woman? Why would he say that CSH is not someone JH should date based on his social background and his age? Yes, he was nice and well-mannered, when he visited the PR-team but there were witnesses and he had to act as a good and nice Co-CEO, especially after JH has become the face of Donghwa hotel. He is arrogant and rude in front of JH alone because he doesn't want any witness. To me, in front of our hero, JWS shows his true color. Striking is that he used the incident with the Cuba Hotel to criticize CSH as she was not able to solve the crisis herself. I doubt that he has another scheme: giving her all his shares. If he had the intention, why hasn't it happened yet? What is he waiting for? Is it to prove that JH is not after CSH's money? But if this is his reason, why did he have to hurt her that way? Why did he ask to meet her often and ask her to eat for lunch? In this scene, we witness how he uses his position as Co-Ceo to interact with her, as from the episode 10 on, she had started disobeying his "invitations" (orders). He knew, he could no longer use his past relationship and his "love" in order to meet her. CSH had showed him that she didn't care for him at all: he waited for her for three hours... He was gracious enough (in his mind) to let her know that she could take her time but he, the prince charming per se,  had been stood up... 

He has the video evidence of his mother's involvement and he didn't use it to reveal what T. Group did. He used it for his own advantage. In his mind, the shares as Co-Ceo can make him look attractive. Don't forget that he uses his money to woo CSH all the time: the dress, the flowers, the expensive wine ... now the stakes are higher, as he knows that JH is even allowed to enter her house. JWS knows very well that even CSH's mother can not even enter that house. So far, only JMJ had that right. Here, he saw a man entering CSH's house and spending some time there. So more and more he sees that he is loosing his grip on CSH hence he uses her love for the hotel to tighten up the leash around CSH's neck.

 

 

@bebebisous33 I liked reading your take on JWS's actions regarding making himself a Co-CEO.  

 

JWS never cheated on CSH, even after their divorce, because he's in love with her. In his own way he has tried to help her. The reason I think he wanted to be Co-CEO was for a few reasons:

 

1. He could see how JH was making a name for himself within the company, but more than that, JH made himself someone that CSH could depend on. CSH has already told JWS that she couldn't depend on him while married, he wasn't a "man" she could depend on. He could see his mother mistreating her, but instead of stepping in to protect her, he would buy CSH  gifts to try and compensate for his mother's actions.  

 

In his mind, CSH and JH's relationship can only become stronger because they are working closely together. By making himself co-CEO, he now can come into constant contact with CSH.  In a way, I think that JWS is trying to mimic JH, hoping that CSH will see him as a protector as he help her address issues with the hotel. 

 

Summary: JWS wants to be close to CSH in order to show her that he can help her.

 

2. The second reason I think he made himself Co-CEO is so that he could gain those stocks and eventually give them to CSH to secure her spot as sole CEO. He may be thinking to use it as leverage for her to come back to him. My secret desire, because my heart does go out to this man in love with his ex-wife, is that he will give these shares to her in the end. Earning the ire of his mother, but also giving him wings to independence.

 

Summary: JWS final act of support to CSH will be to give her the shares to the hotel. 

 

Last thought, I think we've been seeing the real JWS this entire drama. I can understand  his rudeness towards JH because he's jealous of him--JH is stealing his "woman".  In JWS' mind it's always been him and CSH, they are alike, they belong together. JWS still hasn't realized that he lost his opportunity. He lost being a "man" to CSH.  

 

There is a "kindness" to JWS because in a lot of ways he and CSH were "alike".....in a suffering sense. I don't recall seeing him being abusive to others.  JWS is trying to find his independence from his mother, whereas CSH has found hers.  When this drama first started, CSH went to her ex-mother in law's birthday (i think) party because her mother told her to, despite the fact she didn't want to. NOW, her mother pleaded with her to go to the memorial--CSH stood her ground. 

 

At this point, the writer hasn't made JWS the evil, revengeful ex-husband at this point. Yes, he's irritating and trying to get between CSH and JH, but at the same time he's been really low key as drama evil exs goes. He hasn't tried to harm JH's family (at this point) by trying to destroy JH's family business in order to show him I'm more powerful; however, I can see that coming if he becomes evil.

 

 

 

 

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