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18 minutes ago, boredahjumma said:

Plot twist :

JWS is actually protecting CSH AND KJH by joining the company. There is still unanswered question why loyal directors to CSH give the Co-CEO idea a pass. Does JWS plan to give the hotel back to CSH without a full blown court case? He bought Director Choi's stocks. The only director known to support his mother. He can do whatever he wants with them, including giving it back to CSH. My guess is that JWS gave up awhile ago, looking at the couple's sincerity and plotting a way to settle the war once and for all.

JWS is actually holding all the important cards : video of the conspiracy to bring down CSH through the Cuba deal, Choi's stock. And the uncle, he's very suspicious. He didn't say a word on the Board Meeting.

 

Just my 2 cents :blush:

 

That actually entered my mind. Since this drama reverses all the tropes, I wouldn't be surprised if this happens. Moreover, I predict that JWS will leave Taegyeong toward the end of the drama and live his own life, something he told his Mother in an early episode.

 

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8 minutes ago, gumtaek said:

JWS is actually protecting CSH AND KJH by joining the company.

 I think JWS did it to protect CSH..he still doesnt know how much they love each other..so once he realizes that no matter what, CSH will be with JH, he will give the hotel to her.. 

Also, whenever JWS meets JH, he is polite, he even praised him on the cuba deal..he did taunt him but it was not that rude..he even asks him if he ate when they meet..I heard that in Korea asking " Did you eat" is a way of greeting similar to "how are you"..so there is still some hope in him!! 

 

But then him being totally silent to his mother when she talks about destroying CSH..grrrr..he really needs to grow a spine to talk to his mother!! 

 

 

1 hour ago, thistle said:

 

 

 

I just don't know given what @nikir said about translation.....but I still like what I thought earlier even if it is a little pervy.  ;)

:D:D  I also the liked the translation..but I listened to it again and he says " I drank tea in my home.you really want me to drink tea and leave" ..the korean experts in here can clarify

 

Also, i think given the dialogues that has been in this drama..I dont think they would use that dialogue..even if we want them to :w00t:

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14 minutes ago, gumtaek said:

 

That actually entered my mind. Since this drama reverses all the tropes, I wouldn't be surprised if this happens. Moreover, I predict that JWS will leave Taegyeong toward the end of the drama and live his own life, something he told his Mother in an early episode.

 

 

High Five :) 

I also think JWS will stand on his own and leave TaeGyeong. 4 years too late... 

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A salute to that ending...! Both PBG and SHK are just amazing on thet ending of epi 12...! I love all their scenes but this one stands out to me...! 

 

You can feel how happy, relieved, surpriand in love KJH... The way his tears just feel right at the very moment he hugged her,,,! Geezzz that was perfect...! CSH’s tear is just as well perfectly held in her eyes but  the feeling is so intense...!

 

a preview of happy family eating out together would really be nice...! 

 

My fear is that

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Something will happen to KJH’s mom... or a confrontation of the moms...this might really break KJH totally... hope not..!!!

 

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It's good  to see that  their relationship progress slow and steady with solid foundation of PURE LOVE and UNDERSTANDING .

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46 minutes ago, boredahjumma said:

Plot twist :

JWS is actually protecting CSH AND KJH by joining the company. There is still unanswered question why loyal directors to CSH give the Co-CEO idea a pass. Does JWS plan to give the hotel back to CSH without a full blown court case? He bought Director Choi's stocks. The only director known to support his mother. He can do whatever he wants with them, including giving it back to CSH. My guess is that JWS gave up awhile ago, looking at the couple's sincerity and plotting a way to settle the war once and for all.

JWS is actually holding all the important cards : video of the conspiracy to bring down CSH through the Cuba deal, Choi's stock. And the uncle, he's very suspicious. He didn't say a word on the Board Meeting.

 

Just my 2 cents :blush:

 

26 minutes ago, gumtaek said:

 

That actually entered my mind. Since this drama reverses all the tropes, I wouldn't be surprised if this happens. Moreover, I predict that JWS will leave Taegyeong toward the end of the drama and live his own life, something he told his Mother in an early episode.

 

 

17 minutes ago, nikir said:

 I think JWS did it to protect CSH..he still doesnt know how much they love each other..so once he realizes that no matter what, CSH will be with JH, he will give the hotel to her.. 

Also, whenever JWS meets JH, he is polite, he even praised him on the cuba deal..he did taunt him but it was not that rude..he even asks him if he ate when they meet..I heard that in Korea asking " Did you eat" is a way of greeting similar to "how are you"..so there is still some hope in him!! 

 

But then him being totally silent to his mother when she talks about destroying CSH..grrrr..he really needs to grow a spine to talk to his mother!! 

 

Reading all your comment made me think twice about JWS's real motive.

 

But seeing his actions, his choice of words, and his reaction to JH and SH relationship, he came to Donghwa for SH and himself. AT least at this point in Ep12. He must have been looking at Donghwa as both his and SH exit from Taegyong grasps, especially when he bought all the shares with his personal funds.

 

He think he's doing it because he loved SH, it's his way of loving her and protecting her but he also didn't realise he was being a jealous a*rse. And remember his face off with JH at the latter neighbourhood? His jaw ticked when JH left him even though all he can say was 'It's cold!' He was fidgeting when JH didn't emerge after the latter dropped SH at her home. His gaze changes when he saw those who were close to SH are appreciating JH.

 

He is in a denial, that poor clueless lad.

 

But I didn't totally deny that maybe, MAYBE at some point (giving him a benefit of doubt) he would come around. I am not aware of the writer past work (whether the villains arc of development turn them into a decent person) but everything is possible in Korean drama right?

 

Especially when we still got 4 more episode to go. Anything can happen. Pray for the best for our leads.

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5 minutes ago, Far^away said:

 

 

 

Reading all your comment made me think twice about JWS's real motive.

 

But seeing his actions, his choice of words, and his reaction to JH and SH relationship, he came to Donghwa for SH and himself. AT least at this point in Ep12. He must have been looking at Donghwa as both his and SH exit from Taegyong grasps, especially when he bought all the shares with his personal funds.

 

He think he's doing it because he loved SH, it's his way of loving her and protecting her but he also didn't realise he was being a jealous a*rse. And remember his face off with JH at the latter neighbourhood? His jaw ticked when JH left him even though all he can say was 'It's cold!' He was fidgeting when JH didn't emerge after the latter dropped SH at her home. His gaze changes when he saw those who were close to SH are appreciating JH.

 

He is in a denial, that poor clueless lad.

 

But I didn't totally deny that maybe, MAYBE at some point (giving him a benefit of doubt) he would come around. I am not aware of the writer past work (whether the villains arc of development turn them into a decent person) but everything is possible in Korean drama right?

 

Especially when we still got 4 more episode to go. Anything can happen. Pray for the best for our leads.

 

Exactly, all is possible in the drama world. I am just praying this drama does not go overly dramatic on us... No terminal disease, no amnesia, no accident... Please... 

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So you made me cry again JH and Sh...

I agree with you all, this is  the best ending in all episodes. It hit me too deep and i don't know how to bounce back. I think i'm in trouble too, from  12.40 this morning when i watched it till now i'm not in my usual self.

 

This episode is about courage and taking risks. In choosing Jh's family dinner, Sh is not only cutting her ties with taegyeong but risking an important part of her life, the hotel. But she already hinted us that she is not that crazy with the hotel. A part of her is letting the hotel go. Now that she is assured about her relationship with Jh and Jh sticking with her through thick and thin, she is ready to take the risks. Her saying i love  you to JH just sealed it. Happiness, freedom, Jh and i will include Jh's family are all that matters to her now. If she will loose some and gain some let it be. Looking back at ep 1, when her purse was pickpocketed, she loses all her valuables. But instead of tracing her steps back to the hotel, she continued to her destination. She has nothing at that time and taking risks, being alone in an unfamiliar place. And there she encountered Jh. It is when she has nothing that she finds the road to happiness,  freedom, the love of her life. Now, she is not afraid to lose what she worked for, if it will mean having Jh in her life. Keeping some open spaces in our life, will enable the most important things in our life to come in. If it is crowded and full, we may miss those most important things. 

 

Jh's father... i believe Sh's humbleness, nervousness when they met made him assured of Sh. Being a ceo, he expects some airiness, But not Sh. 

And when that door bell rung, his smile, made me also think that he knew its Sh. Why? Maybe, with ms. Lee's foot condition, its impossible to go near the door bell, she will just made a call or ms. Lee is someone who don't patronize door bells. Or maybe, something that Ms. Lee said.

 

Ms Lee... is she the father and son spiritual adviser?  Thats why she acquire a church on sale as her place?It seems, they has high regard on her on serious matters. ( Well, i think i need to visit ms. Lee and have tea:))

 

Jh's mother... she only has low self-esteem. Intimidated by something and someone not on her circle. Since her world revolves their house and market and neighborhood, anything and anyone outside of it makes her knees tremble. Give her time, and with Sh for sure they will click.

 

WS... from the first time i saw him, i distrust his smile. A betrayal's smile.

( he doesn't deserve a space here).

 

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@africandramalover thank you for mentioning the song! I was so curious because he listened by earphone but we can still hear the song, in this drama where they put everything in meaning, i was like, the song must have something in the lyrics, just like the drunken truth song

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E12 is all about the wolf represented by WS and MIL losing their battle with CSH. After giving it a thorough analysis, CSH correctly chooses the best option of staying with KJH by attending KJH family dinner. In the animation, the wolf disappeared after CSH made a turn towards the gate of KJH house. All hopes of WS to claim back CSH disappeared into thin air. It could also mean that MIL's wicked intention to bring down CSH and her father should they attend the death anniversary had backfired. Let's give CSH and KJH a hearty applause.:D

 

I will not say anything about their bedroom scene because it was a flop for KJH. He should have pushed a little by giving CSH some butterfly and mouth eating kisses and CSH may ultimately give in. That's my crooked assumption. I forgot it is a General Patronage drama series. Hahahaha! :D

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40 minutes ago, roshzanna said:

 

This episode is about courage and taking risks. If she will loose some and gain some let it be.

It is when she has nothing that she finds the road to happiness, freedom, the love of her life. Now, she is not afraid to lose what she worked for, if it will mean having Jh in her life. Keeping some open spaces in our life, will enable the most important things in our life to come in. If it is crowded and full, we may miss those most important things. 

 

 

 

How i cherish everyone in this forum.. each one of you gave thoughtful insights which not only relate to the drama but also very relatable to our own life.

Thank you for your beautiful words,

@roshzanna

 

In Woo Suk case, i agree, even if Woo Suk turn out to the noble idiot, trying to protect SH from his mom, he is however, doesn't need to hurt Jin Hyuk and So Hyun with his words. Even if it's in the name of Oppa's Love trying to find out whether Jin Hyuk worthy enough for Soo Hyun.

So Hyun on the other hand, i believe, she would choose to step down, rather than receive the remaining shares from Woo Sook. Remember how Woo Suk tried to help her with Sokcho painter? She decided not to accept as she know, she will forever be in Taegyong circle. 

 

I'm quoting Roshzanna here, 

 

It is when she has nothing that she finds the road to happiness, freedom, the love of her life.

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I have to admit that this drama keeps surprising me in a lot of ways. I love how in this drama CSH and JH are a couple determined to support each other despite opposition. 

 

I loved, loved, loved the end of episode 12....CSH made it clear to her ex husband, his mother, the media, and especially JH that she chose JH. The tears in JH's eyes at seeing CSH standing in front of his house said it all; in that moment the writer let us know that he had doubts that had been weighing on him, but she laid them to rest....you could feel his relief.

 

There are only 4 episodes left and there are going to be some more challenges; we know the ex mother in law is going to come down hard on CSH after her snub by not attending the family memorial. Maybe her ex-husband will finally become a man in front of his mother and stand up to her. He lost the woman he loved because he couldn't protect her.

 

I also am loving my second ship---CSH' assistant and JH's restaurant friend....he's just too cute. Loved that little rose scene.

 

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@nikir @gumtaek @Far^away @boredahjumma I doubt that JWS created that Co-CEO seat in order to help CSH so that he plans to give her all his shares from the start. IF so, why would he visit JH and warn him to stay away from his woman? Why would he say that CSH is not someone JH should date based on his social background and his age? Yes, he was nice and well-mannered, when he visited the PR-team but there were witnesses and he had to act as a good and nice Co-CEO, especially after JH has become the face of Donghwa hotel. He is arrogant and rude in front of JH alone because he doesn't want any witness. To me, in front of our hero, JWS shows his true color. Striking is that he used the incident with the Cuba Hotel to criticize CSH as she was not able to solve the crisis herself. I doubt that he has another scheme: giving her all his shares. If he had the intention, why hasn't it happened yet? What is he waiting for? Is it to prove that JH is not after CSH's money? But if this is his reason, why did he have to hurt her that way? Why did he ask to meet her often and ask her to eat for lunch? In this scene, we witness how he uses his position as Co-Ceo to interact with her, as from the episode 10 on, she had started disobeying his "invitations" (orders). He knew, he could no longer use his past relationship and his "love" in order to meet her. CSH had showed him that she didn't care for him at all: he waited for her for three hours... He was gracious enough (in his mind) to let her know that she could take her time but he, the prince charming per se,  had been stood up... 

He has the video evidence of his mother's involvement and he didn't use it to reveal what T. Group did. He used it for his own advantage. In his mind, the shares as Co-Ceo can make him look attractive. Don't forget that he uses his money to woo CSH all the time: the dress, the flowers, the expensive wine ... now the stakes are higher, as he knows that JH is even allowed to enter her house. JWS knows very well that even CSH's mother can not even enter that house. So far, only JMJ had that right. Here, he saw a man entering CSH's house and spending some time there. So more and more he sees that he is loosing his grip on CSH hence he uses her love for the hotel to tighten up the leash around CSH's neck.

 

I will be even bolder to express the assumption that JWS knew all along the way his mother set up a trap to Cha's family with the loan but since he had fallen in love with her at first sight, he wanted to have her and decided to play along with the game. He let her think that this was an arranged marriage, whereas in reality he wanted to possess her. I could definitely see a pattern due to the way he reacted with the Cuba crisis.

 

Then, let us not forget CSH's warning to director Choi: do you want to remain T. group puppet or do you want to work for Donghwa Hotel? And this will be all about. IS Donghwa hotel independent from T. Group or not? If JWS gives her the shares willingly, then there is no real fight between Taegyeong Group and CSH. However, I want CSH to fight against T. Group and as such against JWS. So far, she has never stopped her husband. In the past, she remained obedient and quiet, then only in the episode 10, she finally refused to meet him. After so many years, she dared something like that that's why I am expecting CSH fighting against her ex-husband.

 

Now, I see JWS differently from HI. While there were many parallels in the past, HI's evolution represents the opposite of JWS's evolution. HI is hurt but she accepts that JH will never love her and only views her as a friend... she cries but that's it. JWS chose the opposite path: he won't give her up, he will do anything to keep her by his side, even it means that he hurts CSH. 

 

What I am expecting is this, a revolution. Director Choi has the video too. Remember that JWS sent him this... so this video reveals that JWS knew what his mother did and covered it up. This video proves that he is an accomplice. I hope, this will be used against him and his mother. Director Choi and the other nobodies (using the words from chairman Kim) like LIH or KJT could testify against her.

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3 hours ago, thistle said:

 

 

 

I just don't know given what @nikir said about translation.....but I still like what I thought earlier even if it is a little pervy.  ;)

 

2 hours ago, nikir said:

 

 

 

:D:D  I also the liked the translation..but I listened to it again and he says " I drank tea in my home.you really want me to drink tea and leave" ..the korean experts in here can clarify

 

Also, i think given the dialogues that has been in this drama..I dont think they would use that dialogue..even if we want them to :w00t:

I’m no Korean expert but I think he literally said “We had our mouths controlled before, and even here you’re telling me to have tea?” I’m not sure what he meant by control here... As in eating/drinking or kissing? :phew: Or was he just playing with words between  참았 (endure) and 차마실 (having tea)? Cos they kinda sound similar in Korean. Forgive me if I was wrong. :grimace:

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25 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

I doubt that JWS created that Co-CEO seat in order to help CSH so that he plans to give her all his shares from the start.

Agree ..not from the start ..but am hoping that he will give up control as a parting gift once he realizes that they are meant to be and that he cannot protect her..

But I hope Monster in law, CSH's mother and Dir. Choi get the punishment they deserve ..I think being rejected by CSH will pbly be the biggest punishment for WS..but once he sees his mother in prison or brought down by society he may turn a new leaf...hope!! 

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Finally got time to see episode 11, my thoughts-

 

 

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  • I like how there's a recurring theme of SH saying "I know every example of ___ that exists" for e.g. all the art galleries in the city, or about the playground, and JH surprises her every time :P. Its hard to hold back after enjoying their privacy in Cuba, it was hilarious to see JH go for the attack within their first day of being back at work, but who can blame them, really. When he bit his lip and was being all suggestive, I don't know how SH kept her cool. She has a core of steel. Also, while Bogum has been flexing his emotional chops, this scene made me see hes got great comedic timing- him struggling to explain why exactly he called her, and look at that cap of him fleeing the scene lols.

 

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  • Finally, I get to see a scene of healthy, real, mother-daughter connection. Happy to see all the side plots trickling along, hope Driver Nam joins their family dinners soon, too. And of course, for SH to eventually experience having a mother who cares.

 

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  • They both know why JH was that essential element required to heal bond the b/w Samuel and Donghwa Hotels. It was more emotional, less business. JH and Samuel harabeoji come from the same stock- people who value genuineness and human interaction, no matter how fleeting. A sanctuary garden in Cuba vs a playground in Seoul- both are imbibed with meaning because of their life experiences. And they both are hopeless romantics- no wonder they clicked. Nice to see SH realise the connection.

 

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  • This drunk scene was one of my favorites- SHK acted amazingly- from a cute drunk, to being heartrendingly real, back to being cute and tipsy. Honestly seeing her go from "I'm cute, but not everybody knows it" to " I wonder if this is all a dream" to "Isn't one metre too far hehe" was just amazing. And Bogum is an amazing partner to share such a scene with- his reactions are so attuned to her, have so much of mirroring, shadowing, whatever they call it. Its magic.

 

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  • I included this because I love his face, I love his expression. And most importantly, we can see that hes made a decision- when faced with her insecurities, he steps up to the plate.

 

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  • I humbly disagree with JH's dad, to sing like that, in one go, without a faulty note(to my ears)- hes awesome. Is there anything Park Bogum cant do?! I've also been seeing that both the leads are gonna collaborate on an ost? They're planning to just kill me, aren't they.

 

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  • To be honest, I didn't get any "doom" type feelings from the story JH quoted. Maybe my radar has been blunted or I'm choosing to be a romantic- but after witnessing her confession and fears the night before, maybe he wanted to convey that his love for her is the eternal kind- always present no matter the circumstances.
  • And that was such a fun proposal- interactive, with elements of discovery and surprise. They are soulmates by this point, my brain cant even think of an alternate ending.

 

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  • So our suspicions that dad has known from the beginning are confirmed. His father is definitely cautious, but I appreciate him lending his support to JH. On the other hand, his mom said "They don't match"- but it definitely stems more from her insecurity regarding their status differences. The whole scene with them being offered wine tasting- the awkwardness was just so relatable to me because my family also head out to such high end places very rarely. 
  • And there was an interesting parallel between the scenes of SH looking at JH's close family unit and WS looking on at JH meet SH's dad.They both feel like outsiders at this point, but obviously there's hope for SH becoming a part of JH's family unit. I think JH's mom will actually love SH, when she actually gets to know her.

 

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  • I had taken a few screencaps of WS and his stalker behavior, but then decided against it. Anyways, his mom should have taken a look at her own son before pointing the finger at JH.  The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
  • But can he still surprise us?

 

 

Yet to see ep 12, but will return with my thoughts. And I should really login more, I once again have nearly 50 pgs to backread.:sweatingbullets:  Keep the discussion train going guys.

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