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26 minutes ago, The_Doctor said:

I have read the forum and couldn't see it. I just watched the latest episode, i couldn't figure out why she, Seonu hye, became a human. Dail stabbed her, so she should become a fully enraged ghost amirite? How could she become a human? Or humanlike? They showed us that she can be seen by the guy who helped her and a kid, noone more right? Can everyone else now see her? God i am so confused about it. 

 

I'm just adding to what @gm4queen says because I agree:  DI couldn't kill her but he was protecting YW.  The reason the Red Lady is human now is that she used her Enraged Ghost powers to take over someone's body.  She was wondering outside and saw someone who looked like a likely candidate, so she took over.  (I thought the new body looked similar to the old one.)  She got into the new body's apartment, ate her food, tried on her clothes, and so on.

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53 minutes ago, The_Doctor said:

I have read the forum and couldn't see it. I just watched the latest episode, i couldn't figure out why she, Seonu hye, became a human. Dail stabbed her, so she should become a fully enraged ghost amirite? How could she become a human? Or humanlike? They showed us that she can be seen by the guy who helped her and a kid, noone more right? Can everyone else now see her? God i am so confused about it. 

 

She was never technically a ghost, i suppose, because she never lost her body.

 

She was always a human being in a "coma" whose spirit wandered at night, with a curfew.

 

So it seems Da-il's attempt to kill her woke her from her coma--which isn't the usual approach to dealing with patients in comas so I wouldn't recommend it.

 

Neither the Red Lady's or the nurse's body was found amoungst the carnage, so I think she still has her own body.

 

Since I'm not watching the carnage or the scary parts I might well be missing some of the story.

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13 minutes ago, hushhh said:

 

She was never technically a ghost, i suppose, because she never lost her body.

 

She was always a human being in a "coma" whose spirit wandered at night, with a curfew.

 

So it seems Da-il's attempt to kill her woke her from her coma--which isn't the usual approach to dealing with patients in comas so I wouldn't recommend it.

 

Neither the Red Lady's or the nurse's body was found amoungst the carnage, so I think she still has her own body.

 

Since I'm not watching the carnage or the scary parts I might well be missing some of the story.

Agree..!

 

Sun Woo Hye was a human in a coma with her spirit wandering..! And according to her own words, a ghost like Da Il can't kill her & only Yeo Wool can do it...! Also Choe Won's mom said that they should stab her in order to trap her spirit inside her body... And somehow she was stabbed, but by a ghost - Da Il..! So now the rules are opposite.. She's out of the coma now & alive again instead of dying..! And what just happened to her evil spirit..??! Is it just got trapped or just released..?! What's your idea about it.?! This is all about logic...! :hushed:

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The Red Lady was a Fetch, wasn't she, rather than a ghost?  I get that stuff mixed up, so I was off-the-mark when I said Enraged Ghost.  But I remember DI saying that she wasn't a Fetch anymore.

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2 hours ago, gm4queen said:

Agree..!

 

Sun Woo Hye was a human in a coma with her spirit wandering..! And according to her own words, a ghost like Da Il can't kill her & only Yeo Wool can do it...! Also Choe Won's mom said that they should stab her in order to trap her spirit inside her body... And somehow she was stabbed, but by a ghost - Da Il..! So now the rules are opposite.. She's out of the coma now & alive again instead of dying..! And what just happened to her evil spirit..??! Is it just got trapped or just released..?! What's your idea about it.?! This is all about logic...! :hushed:

 

Well I don't know much about Korean ghosts, fetchs, or rules for supernatural beings but I assume her spirit (which was locked out of her body) is back in her body where it belongs.  Something is in thate body activating it.  Red Lady now seems amoral as a new born who only knows what it wants and needs and does what is feels necessary to fulfill that needs.

 

1 hour ago, thistle said:

The Red Lady was a Fetch, wasn't she, rather than a ghost?  I get that stuff mixed up, so I was off-the-mark when I said Enraged Ghost.  But I remember DI saying that she wasn't a Fetch anymore.

 

I think the preview said that Red Lady has lost her ability to control people minds and push them to suicide so she must now kill using her corporeal state--if she continues as she has been she will now be a serial killer.

 

Yet, I'm not sure if she has lost her her any or all of her ability of manipulate. Blood flowing into people's eyes seems to be the sign that Red Lady's will is at work in the person.  We saw the male witness to the hospital murders change his description of the perpetrator to throw people off her trail.  We saw him do with with blood visible in his eyes.  It could be that 1) she can still manipulate people/affect their thinking to a certain level but cannot push them to suicide OR 2) the Scooby Team may just be flat out wrong about Red Lady's new abilities.  I don't think their expert ChaeWon knows much about re-incorporated fetchs.

 

 

Western Fetch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetch_(folklore)

 

 

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I seem to recall that the Red Lady could still manipulate people.  It does seem like she was able to make people do stuff even after she had her new body--seems like there was some dialogue about that.

 

But I'm fuzzy on the details there.....to be fair, that is because I'm not overly worried about the details on this; I'm still in this for the human drama rather than the supernatural one.

 

  

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1 hour ago, thistle said:

I seem to recall that the Red Lady could still manipulate people.  It does seem like she was able to make people do stuff even after she had her new body--seems like there was some dialogue about that.

 

But I'm fuzzy on the details there.....to be fair, that is because I'm not overly worried about the details on this; I'm still in this for the human drama rather than the supernatural one.

 

  

 

Yes, the Red Lady still has (some of?) her abilities, at least that's what Da Il said to YW when she's being interogated at the police station. Da il said to YW that Red Lady is alive again, she's still able to control people, like that boy who saw Red Lady walking out of the her room after killing the doctors & nurses.

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11 minutes ago, kaedechan said:

 

Yes, the Red Lady still has (some of?) her abilities, at least that's what Da Il said to YW when she's being interogated at the police station. Da il said to YW that Red Lady is alive again, she's still able to control people, like that boy who saw Red Lady walking out of the her room after killing the doctors & nurses.

 

Thank you!  That's the part I was trying to remember.  :)

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7 hours ago, gm4queen said:

Agree..!

 

Sun Woo Hye was a human in a coma with her spirit wandering..! And according to her own words, a ghost like Da Il can't kill her & only Yeo Wool can do it...! Also Choe Won's mom said that they should stab her in order to trap her spirit inside her body... And somehow she was stabbed, but by a ghost - Da Il..! So now the rules are opposite.. She's out of the coma now & alive again instead of dying..! And what just happened to her evil spirit..??! Is it just got trapped or just released..?! What's your idea about it.?! This is all about logic...! :hushed:

This is quite confusing. Her body did die right? I’m not sure what kind of laws apply here but it makes no sense that she’s actually alive as a normal person unless she supernaturally healed her mortal body of the wound. I get that Da II can’t kill her but I expected her to be more like the walking dead and not a human being alive. I would more believe that it’s her evil spirit that is animating her dead body or something like that. I assume things will get clearer as the story progresses. Most of the supernatural shows I’ve seen in the past didn’t abandon logic and hopefully it’s the same with this show. It’s just that the main characters seem to be fumbling around unknown territory. Only CW seem to know a bit but not enough to enlighten the team as to what actually happened with the red lady. Maybe her grandfather could be of some help.

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Im not sure izzit true or not. But I think Sun Wo Hye still have power to manipulate people.. (Feeling tells me.. ) And saw someone posted some pictures at Instagram. Many ppl lay down on floor, seems like connecting to last scene from preview that  Da II is in panting heavily... Not sure izzit something bad done by SWH.... 

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This is a bit off the current topic but it's a fun fact anyhow.  

 

I decided to try a new show that just started called The Player.  Imagine my surprise when I noticed a familiar face in the cast:  it was Kim Won Hae who is also playing our Ghost Detective's Sang Sub!

 

Since I think it's kinda really cool when an actor is busy in minor roles, I went to check his info and I found out that he is also in a third series that starts airing tomorrow:  Where Stars Land (Fox Bride Star).  (And I'm not even gonna go into the fact that he's in yet another show that starts in November.)

 

Oh my goodness, this guy is very, very busy!  That's tremendously impressive.  And I'm really liking him as Sang Sub.  Although there's an age gap between him and the coroner Chae Won (my favorite character, not counting our leads, of course), it would be great if they became a couple or at least friends.  He needs a buddy now that DI is a ghost.

 

 

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1 hour ago, thistle said:

This is a bit off the current topic but it's a fun fact anyhow.  

 

I decided to try a new show that just started called The Player.  Imagine my surprise when I noticed a familiar face in the cast:  it was Kim Won Hae who is also playing our Ghost Detective's Sang Sub!

 

Since I think it's kinda really cool when an actor is busy in minor roles, I went to check his info and I found out that he is also in a third series that starts airing tomorrow:  Where Stars Land (Fox Bride Star).  (And I'm not even gonna go into the fact that he's in yet another show that starts in November.)

 

Oh my goodness, this guy is very, very busy!  That's tremendously impressive.  And I'm really liking him as Sang Sub.  Although there's an age gap between him and the coroner Chae Won (my favorite character, not counting our leads, of course), it would be great if they became a couple or at least friends.  He needs a buddy now that DI is a ghost.

Just adding something more to your post...!!

 

This is the lucky year for Kim Won Hae sshi ( I don't like to call him by his name b'cause he's 21 yrs older than me...!).. He's got total 8 K-dramas this year... :hushed: WOW.. he's so fantastic.. This is the first time I am seeing him & I think he's so cool..!!

 

And speaking of "The Ghost Detective), I really love the way he's trying to protect our younger ones & cracking jokes...! He's the life of the show.! Glad that Da Il saved him... Without his sweet jokes, the series wouldn't be the same..! And he & Chae Won also has about a 20 yrs age gap.. But who knows, :tounge_wink: he's like a kid in front of her...! So sweet.. :heart: Let's see what happens..!

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I am so in love with the top left photo...!

 

Daniel :heart: Eun Bin..!! Their sizzling chemistry is all over the internet.!..

 

Thank you @nona88

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11 hours ago, gm4queen said:

Finally!

 

"My Dilemma | The Ghost Detective MV" edited by me is here :heart:

I hope you guys will gonna love it..!

 

@larus @triplem @celebrianna @Heidi Seow @thistle @kaedechan @nona88 @hushhh

 

 

 

 

Definitely love it! :wub: You made a wonderful video.  

She's so pretty.  He's so handsome.  Oh, I hope their love isn't doomed.

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1 hour ago, thistle said:

 

Definitely love it! :wub: You made a wonderful video.  

She's so pretty.  He's so handsome.  Oh, I hope their love isn't doomed.

Thank you so much dear... :wub: It means a lot to me...!

 

And you've just read my mind.... She's so beautiful in any dress & He's is hot in black :heart:. Really want these two to fall in love & fight for their love..! They're made for each other..!...

 

And as Da Il said, now Sun Woo Hye doesn't need any mental connections to kill people.. She now has the physical power to kill them by her own hands..! Remember how she killed the lady was in the street & then went to her apartment..! ( I was wondered how can a lady who was in a hospital since the age of 12 has adult outfits..!) And I too saw on the net that a lot of people are on the ground...! Looks like she's already started her business..!! :hushed: Can't wait...!

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On red lady:

She was in coma and when DI killed her, she woke up

The police inspector told the team that a lady's body was found , stabbed. So, our b'ful angry damsel is very much in her own body and she is human. Drama explicitly explained this. THe good thing is, now she can kill all of her own and doesn't need to bother with other people :P

 

In a previous episode, somebody mentioned, there are powers that spirits can choose to use and evil spirits grow powerful over time. However, to gain and use such powers, they have to sacrifice part of them... me guessing, we have yet to come around to that..

our red lady blurs the divide between human and meta ..  her spirit has powers/experience gained, her human form can now exercise it..

 

i am really curious to see what made her angry (it isn't being stuck with dead body) and what sacrifice she chose to gain these powers

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