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[Drama 2018-2019] Memories of the Alhambra | Recuerdos de la Alhambra 알함브라 궁전의 추억

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@stargazer187,

 

I don't know if it was you or another poster who asked how Jinwoo walked without a limp and how Sec Seo was killed by NPCs. My take on them is here.

 

http://bitchesoverdramas.com/2019/01/01/memories-of-the-alhambra-on-game-logic

 

Briefly --

 

1. In Episode 10, why could JinWoo suddenly walk normal again? He left it by the window when he went to the washroom. And then he jumped off the train at the Granada station and walked around without his cane.

Answer: Because he was in game mode in Granada. He didn’t leave the Augmented Reality because the whole city was now a game destination.

That’s why he said after he killed Cha and began walking without a limp, “Here’s the only thing I’m right about. Granada has really become a city of magic. A crazy city where nothing seems to be strange no matter how messed up it is.”

His absent limp had nothing to do with the healing potion (he didn’t drink it yet) nor his encounter with Emma (he only got 100 recovery points from that).

 

2. How did Sec Seo die?

 

Answer: As JW’s ally, he shared experience points with JinWoo.

 

When he originally joined the game, he only became exhausted after fighting the NPCs. This changed when he became an ally of JinWoo. Both of them understood the meaning of being allies in “normal” game circumstances. So when the AR stated that:

 

Allies may fight the same opponents.
Experience points gained together are shared.
Allies may exchange weapons and items.

 

they noticed nothing unusual. It was only when Sec Seo got stabbed by NPC Cha’s sword did it dawn on them that being an ally had a different implication for “Memories of the Alhambra” AR game. 

 

It meant Sec Seo also fully SHARED the “experience points” of JinWoo. He would see Cha and feel pain as if the injuries were real, not virtual -- just like how JinWoo experienced the game.

 

But it should be noted that JinWoo always leveled UP; he always emerged victorious in his fight against NPCs, even producing a “killing field” in the abandoned school: one vs the army of NPCs.

 

And when he leveled up, Sec Seo did, too. That’s why Sec Seo said it was easy for him to move up – because he just followed JinWoo.

However, after killing Cha and gaining Level 4, JW hadn’t experienced virtual death again at the hand of the NPCs. He could NOT have foreseen that Sec Seo would die FOR REAL after being ambushed by NPCs at the Granada station.

 

All he knew from his previous virtual deaths from NPC (prior to defeating Cha in Episode 3) was that he could logged back in and resume the same level. That’s how he survived the Nasrid warrior in Level 1. Thus, when Sec Seo was being attacked at the Granada station, he thought Sec Seo would simply resume the game with him.

 

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http://bitchesoverdramas.com/2019/01/01/memories-of-the-alhambra-on-game-logic

 

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Also, somebody had posted that JinWoo "killed" HyunSik and his Sec Seo. I say no.

 

http://bitchesoverdramas.com/2018/12/18/memories-of-the-alhambra-reality-vs-fantasy/

 

@lduc,

 

Thank you very much for all the colorful gifs and artworks you've been posting. Although I don't get to see them all, please know that I appreciate them and your effort to make the thread visually interesting. :D Park Shin Hye is looking gorgeous as usual. 

 

I find her role interesting. Every time the viewers begin to think that she’s irrelevant to the plot, she suddenly appears like the missing puzzle piece to tidily snap the whole picture into place. Just like her going back home to searching through her saved mementos and touristy brochures on the Alhambra. 

 

This reminded me of her running up the stairs again, instead of racing down. The hive of activity should have been the room where the game servers were located. She could have stayed inside the building and watched the next course of action that JinWoo’s colleagues would undertake. Instead she ran back home and rummaged through drawers and her box. 

 

The “sane” and “logical” people around her like SangBeom and JW’s colleague warned her that JinWoo wasn't operating in his right mind. If she were only to believe her rational mind, like them, then JinWoo’s actions would seem irrational, too. But as I said before, she doesn’t trust her senses alone, she goes beyond that. That's why whenever everything appears Kafkaesque, that is, utterly absurd and illogical, she comes through for JinWoo.  Hmmm… I’ll have to blog about this later tonight.   
 

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Thanks @packmule3 for enlightening me with your insights. Yes, I'm asking about it before. I like he returns there, at least one thing works well for him. 

 

As for Seo, I still bitter and always be bitter on his death. Sighhh.... why did writer have to kill him?? Sighh.... 

 

1 hour ago, packmule3 said:

Also, somebody had posted that JinWoo "killed" HyunSik and his Sec Seo. I say no.

Yes, he didn't. The game is the culprit.

 

@Kasmic LOL, you have eagle eyes! I even didn't notice it until you pointed it out. Wow... I can't wait for weekend. Sighh.. it means holiday will really end and back to work again. 

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15 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@sanika Sorry for confusing you:) but with SJ, I meant Soo Jin, the first ex-wife. If it had been the brother, I would have mentioned it. So next time, I'll write LSJ. Since my theory is that the game is used for murder, the list of suspects is

- professor Cha

- director Park Sun Ho

- Lee Soo Jin

- Kim Sang Beom

 

 

hahaha....don't worry about it. I am a speed reader. So when I was reading a sentence with "SJ seduced Director Park....." I generally imagine SeJu in the entire sequence you described and then do a double take and realize you were talking about SuJin. I get a good chuckle out of it :P

 

9 hours ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

lol.. why real people?

Create bots - multiple bots with login.. for game everything is digital anyways - 1/0

 

That would have been great, but the writer has already laid a lot of ground work where the Programmer guy isn't about to interfere with Zinu's profile - He couldn't cancel his alliance with City Hunter nor could he take weapons developed outside Granada, ergo - not by SeJu. He will have to use the pirates to go on his quest with him using the weapons from the Antiques shops. Thankfully Zinu is able to still use his money.

 

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2 hours ago, stargazer187 said:

Thanks @packmule3 for enlightening me with your insights. Yes, I'm asking about it before. I like he returns there, at least one thing works well for him. 

 

As for Seo, I still bitter and always be bitter on his death. Sighhh.... why did writer have to kill him?? Sighh.... 

 

Yes, he didn't. The game is the culprit.

 

 

I also heard that another old friend of mine is asking (in another forum) why JinWoo didn't shut down the server the second he left Sec Seo behind on the Granada platform.  As I explained, it has nothing to his callous indifference to Seo’s death or his depravity, but it’s because he couldn’t have foreseen that either one of them could die FOR REAL at the hands of an NPC. 

 

Death from being stabbed by Cha’s sword, yes. But death from being killed by an NPC? They didn’t expect THAT since they’ve been fighting NPCs all this time without dying -- in the same way, I don’t expect a sinful slice of quadruple layer of chocolate with fudge, ganache and Kahlua-soaked nuts to kill me even if it’s called “Death by Chocolate” because it's never happened to me before. hahaha.     :wub:

 

Anyway, after he killed off Cha, Jinwoo always leveled up and he never lost a challenge. Same with Sec Seo, he always leveled up because he was with JinWoo. Thus, as far as JinWoo knew, he and Sec Seo could log back in if they died from an NPC attack --in the same way, he logged back in when he was killed by the Nasrid warrior. The game settings must have changed probably because they were in advanced levels or because he killed Cha.  

 

Also, as far as I understand it, the game is NOT EVOLVING, as others have conjectured. The game however is UNFOLDING. 

 

You can see it from NPC Cha’s behavior. He and his equipment are static. Like if the game is evolving, then why does he come after JinWoo again and again with a SWORD when he’s been SHOT over and over again? lol. See what I mean? 

 

NPCs don’t fight better or smarter and they don’t acquire self-awareness. 

 

However, as the game user advances a level, the challenge obviously becomes more difficult. For example, JinWoo might have had to kill 70 NPCs in level 89 instead of 50 in level 88. 

 

That’s why he went inside the restroom again in Episode 10. (lol. I think I read a comment asking why JW kept on going inside the restroom. No, he didn't have a bladder problem. :D)

 

Previously, when Sec Seo was still alive, he was in the restroom when Cha appeared outside the bathroom. He killed Cha but then he got notified that another enemy had appeared. He thought Cha resurrected so he glanced down where Cha lay. He saw that Cha was still dead but when he turned away, the terrorist NPC appeared and shot at him. 

 

When he returned to Granada (this time without Seo), he already had the foreknowledge that Cha was going to appear outside the restroom and that terrorist NPCs would swarm the train so he hid in the restroom to buy himself time. After opening his quest, he located the terrorist NPCs and ascertained their number. By doing so, he removed the element of surprise. 

 

Also, he was wearing a bulletproof vest under his jacket. Dunno if Sec Seo had one.  


 

Spoiler

 

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Weird, however, that he didn't have to leave it at the gate of the Alhambra dungeons. 

 

Ciao!

 

 


 

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Ost 5 release: 6th Jan 6pm KST

"Im Here" by Yang Da-il

 

Some moving lyrics -

 "I will always stand here, always here, in order to keep you safe even if it hurts cold," and "I want you to be like magic at the end of this story." 

 

I cant wait to hear it. 

 

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cr. https://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=109&aid=0003931152

 

and I hope this article isnt misleading: it says something along the lines that HJ will secretly involve herself in the game without JW knowing. 

 

https://m.entertain.naver.com/now/read?oid=609&aid=0000041260

 

@stroppyse am I right?  please skim read over the Naver link. The title is building up my excitement:blush:

 

 

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@packmule3 it was so fun reading your post. There r some parts that makes me laugh. Thanks for that :lol:

 

I thought you're busy and just sporadically leaving comments, come and go once in a while. I see that you read most of everyone thoughts here. And you come with their answers. Hahaha. :thumbsup:

 

3 hours ago, packmule3 said:

Weird, however, that he didn't have to leave it at the gate of the Alhambra dungeons

Maybe because it was not made in Granada either. All weapons and special items he acquired outside Granada were not allowed. 

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20 minutes ago, Kasmic said:

 

and I hope this article isnt misleading: it says something along the lines that HJ will secretly involve herself in the game without JW knowing.

 

 

I hope it's right, it's about time we need a Heroine, I cannot wait to see Emma stop playing the guitar - LOL, I want her to stand up, and run to grab a sword. :D If that's happen I'm going to dress her like Wonder Woman Medieval era..

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Kasmic said:

Ost 5 release: 6th Jan 6pm KST

"Im Here" by Yang Da-il

 

Some moving lyrics -

 "I will always stand here, always here, in order to keep you safe even if it hurts cold," and "I want you to be like magic at the end of this story." 

 

I cant wait to hear it. 

 

cr. https://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=109&aid=0003931152

 

and I hope this article isnt misleading: it says something along the lines that HJ will secretly involve herself in the game without JW knowing. 

 

https://m.entertain.naver.com/now/read?oid=609&aid=0000041260

 

@stroppyse am I right?  please skim read over the Naver link. The title is building up my excitement:blush:

 

 

Wow i can't wait for this scene

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DECEMBER 18, 2018 BY POPGASA

Elaine – Daydream (백일몽) Memories of the Alhambra OST Part 2

The blue sky
Changes its outfit to be the night

The moonlight that secretly followed me
Starts talking to me

Asking if I’m doing alright
Looking for that picture

Maybe it’s you
Who still comes to me in my dreams

Where do I go now
Where do I go

This street has fallen asleep
And my memory of you is so clear
As if I can grasp this air
Even my tears are so warm

Where do I go
Where do I go
All night, I’m looking for you in my dreams

The dreams close up
And the stars disappear

As if you’re caught in my throat
My cough is like you

Where do I go now
Where do I go

My tears become stars
Your memories become the sun
Above the evening sunset
Will I be able to see you?

Where do I go
Where do I go
All night, I’m looking for you in my dreams

Daydreaming
Daydreaming again

If the moonlight talks to me again

My tears become stars
Your memories become the sun
Above the evening sunset
Will I be able to see you?

Where do I go
Where do I go
All night, I’m looking for you in my dreams

 

 

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http://cfile25.uf.tistory.com/original/990917495C24AE5B302EC0 

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1 hour ago, PororoQueen said:

 

I hope it's right, it's about time we need a Heroine, I cannot wait to see Emma stop playing the guitar - LOL, I want her to stand up, and run to grab a sword. :D If that's happen I'm going to dress her like Wonder Woman Medieval era..

 

Or she could still kill with her guitar like Sung Hoon and his flute in Faith  :lol:

 

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Maybe that explains the scene when JW meets Emma again. She clearly understood what JW was saying about saving her brother. 

 

1 hour ago, ismaeni said:

Wow i can't wait for this scene

 

Many viewers are anticipating this too. Let's hope it happens. With  Seo's death, still no news of SJ and JW return on the verge of insanity she WON'T sit still . 

 

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What I am really curious about is why did JSJ said on the phone that he doesn't want to sell to Cha because he is a bad person? Have they met? Maybe it will be shown later in a flashback...

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4 hours ago, Kasmic said:

and I hope this article isnt misleading: it says something along the lines that HJ will secretly involve herself in the game without JW knowing. 

 

https://m.entertain.naver.com/now/read?oid=609&aid=0000041260

 

@stroppyse am I right?  please skim read over the Naver link. The title is building up my excitement:blush:

 

 

The article doesn't actually say that. Most of it is a recap of the events in the drama, but the last paragraph quotes the production team about how HJ is such a strong character since she shouldered the burden of taking care of 2 younger siblings and her grandmother in Spain, and how HJ, now that she knows the truth about the mysterious game, will affect the game as well as the romance with JW.

 

Personally, though, I hope HJ does enter the game, with or without JW's knowledge. I'm positive that HJ is more than just a character to act as a foil for JW or any other character, even though that has been her primary role thus far. I would like to see her bring her pragmatism and strength to dealing with the bewildering, mysterious game as well, and I think she has to enter the game in order to do so. :)

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On 1/3/2019 at 2:56 AM, sanika said:

Sorry for cutting in, but I just wanted to say that I am always envious (in a good way!) of people who can write original content. Good luck with your project! Hope you do finish and submit it to MBC. As they say, Go Big or Go Home. Fighting

 

Hi, thank you for your support.
I didn't know MBC made that kind of statement. Where did you find this?

 

W season 2 Teaser below.

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I did it for fun. As I haven't finished all the episodes, I don't open a topic in the fanfix forum, it will just be posted here by the way. Maybe if I start talking about the project, I'll meet people interested in doing photo montages, who knows?
It's an excerpt from a scene in the drama. Although it is a spoiler, it is too good a teaser to avoid using it.

 

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My last thought for today is:

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Cr: Dramabeans

 

Do you see that female bathroom on the train??

SeeJoo must be hiding inside that female toilet on the same train he vanished and fell off the train at the next station, and hit his head somewhere and currently is having Amnesia.

 

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