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Thai BL Series - "Cause you're my boy" & "Our Skyy - Drake & Frank" - 2018

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1 hour ago, Poi Ru said:

in my country calling someone like that is an insult of his looks and personality

 

1 hour ago, Kim Soo-Lee said:

You have to remember that people here are from all around the world and from different cultures, and sometimes comments get misinterpreted the wrong way.

Yeah sometimes, I also tend to forget that we come from all around the world, because we share at least one thing, our interest for BL stories. :D

 

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1 hour ago, WeLoveSoompi said:

Where is AJ in this picture? Left or Right?

So easy, I can see the difference in this picture, while sometimes it's more complicated.

 

6 minutes ago, morkingtee said:

There are only 3 episodes left in the series but some of the early mysteries still remained. 

 

2. Au made a phone call to "Bambi" from Mork phone and totally ignored the conversation when "Bambi" called back. I still don't know the intention. We don't know if this is real "Bambi" or not.

 

5. Au is in possession of the porn DVDs envelope. Did he order it? Did he receive it or he just didn't mail it?

 

6. Morn's tuition money and what he has been up to on days he is not having tutoring classes.

 

7. What happened to P'Som? She showed up for 2 episodes and like disappeared. Will she have any more involvement in the story?

2- I have to admit the first time I watch the episode, I found the voice through the phone too old to be Bambi, I need to listen again to be sure ...

 

5- I never thought he just didn't mail it 555 but it's true, we still don't know if they went together to the mall (cinema and post office)

 

6- More than that, how Mork manage to have those 20.000 baths ?

 

7- 2? I remember her only in one, but that's true it's strange to see her in the generique each time, while her time's screen was so low ... 

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1 hour ago, Poi Ru said:

I'm sorry if i offended anyone... I'm not referring of you insulting each other... i read someone calling drake a mickey mouse and in my country calling someone like that is an insult of his looks and personality... I don't mean to make anyone feel bad and im not generalizing... maybe im too young to be in a thread like this because the humor is too strong for me..im too sensitive and react to that what i read... Again I'm sorry... I'm just being defensive of drake as a fan...

 

Hi and welcome to this thread!

 

You don't have to apologize for your opinion, and your feeling. When you said: "i read someone calling drake a mickey mouse", you made a mystake, cause if you re-read the comment, and i explain again on the above comment, that "i immediatly think to...", which is just a thought, a sort of uncontroled reflex! Not a sentence. I understand you can have been shocked, and i guess it will be the same for me if i was also a hard Drake fan. This misunderstanding have the advantage to make things on the right track. Have a great time among us!

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5 minutes ago, mellialuna said:

6- More than that, how Mork manage to have those 20.000 baths ?

 

7- 2? I remember her only in one, but that's true it's strange to see her in the generique each time, while her time's screen was so low ... 

 

6. Mork has a DVD selling business and it pays well according to his intro

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7. You're right. It's 2 scenes in 1 episode. I corrected it.

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1 hour ago, WeLoveSoompi said:

Where is AJ in this picture? Left or Right?

IG:aj__chayapol

 

All depend from the way we look at them/photo. I just give a sign. Aj have one teeth a little shorter that make the difference with his twin. Only visible when he smile  ha ha ha

 

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Really obvious on this one!

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47 minutes ago, morkingtee said:

There are only 3 episodes left in the series but some of the early mysteries still remained. 

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1. Bambi's second(??) phone in Tee's possession. This is from episode 2 when Mork tried to call Bambi for Tee but a black phone was shown ringing in Tee's bag. We have seen several times Bambi has a pink phone.

 

2. Au made a phone call to "Bambi" from Mork phone and totally ignored the conversation when "Bambi" called back. I still don't know the intention. We don't know if this is real "Bambi" or not.

 

3. Bambi, Au, Tee relationship. Mama knows Au well and the 2 families are close. So it's certainly Tee and Au know each other, even though they're not friends. Tee must also have know Bambi is Au's sister. And yet Mork is kept in the dark of this circle.

 

4. Who pulled some strings on the Principal? He changed his mind about Mork's expulsion the next day.

 

5. Au is in possession of the porn DVDs envelope. Did he order it? Did he receive it or he just didn't mail it?

 

6. Morn's tuition money and what he has been up to on days he is not having tutoring classes.

 

7. What happened to P'Som? She showed up for 2 episodes and like disappeared. Will she have any more involvement in the story?

 

 

 

Some of those are on my list of mysteries / unanswered questions as well :D. I hope we'll get some answers in the last 3 episodes, but I'm not counting on all of them getting cleared up, so we may just be stuck with our own theories unless the author helps us out. 

 

1) I don't think Bam owns the black phone. I think both are Tee's (or he got the second one from a family member), and he just used it to fake all those calls to get Mork to feel pity and agree to the fake relationship.

 

2) I think Au was really trying to call Bambie, and she was the one that called back (to me it does sound like her voice). Why didn't Au use his own phone? I suppose his phone's battery could be drained.

 

5) I shared my thoughts about that in this post from a few pages ago which also has some screen grabs of the envelope. In short, we didn't see the post office scene, and there are no stamps or watermarks visible on the envelope (although they could be hidden underneath the post-it). If Au ended up going to the post office by himself instead of together with Mork, it's possible he took the envelope with gay porn home instead.

 

6) In one of the previous episodes, Morn told Gord he spent all the money Mork gave him on his classes. Assuming he isn't lying, that just leaves the question where Morn went instead. I think it may be related to the gang he recently joined.

 

7) I've been wondering about that as well. It's possible she was originally going to be in more scenes, but those ended up getting cut.

 

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On 8/28/2018 at 8:25 PM, gogole mongol said:

 

I have seen all japanese BL classics movies/series! I can't tell which name, cause i have all deleted from my hdd! Agree, the fashion is not modern at all, and they almost all looks similar. High quality? Not really for me, image are grey, even it is with color*, and this gives a dull atmosphere. It seems they have problem to manage lightning level. Yes, there is some good actors, but that's not the main problem which is they ALL HAVE THE SAME HAIRSTYLE*** i don't support to view! Just that!!! Sometimes it made me think they all are cloned!

 

Yes, in general script are interesting, with a deep sociologic point, yes, there is emotion, sometimes lot of emotions (and i need that a lot), but unfortunately to me, their hairstyle is too much for me. That's why i never be interested into japanese manga, because they have the same hairstyle! And always that big eyes (japanese author's phantasm for white eye's shape?). When i see fan drawing that clone the manga style into the forum, i never reply if i like or not, cause i will always says i don't like it**! As you said, that's just my taste...Please don't accuse me to be asian phobic, i live (and firstly love) with one for years and years. :wub::wub::wub:

  

Well, the difference with vietnamese BL production is i watch japanese serie/movies until the end! Then i delete it. The best exemple is this 4 or 5 movies with Takumi name in each titles, which i liked for the script, but if it was with thai actors it should be a lot better for me! I have also my own phantasm about asian look, and i must respect myself!!! :mrgreen:

 

*: maybe this comes from video quality (mainly YT), however, it is the same with all i have seen.

**: and mainly because there is no "dislike" button :joy:

***: except for adult actors, which have classic hairstyle

Ha ha  :lol:we so different, sometimes i even wish that Gmmtv will cast ugly or average looking actors to keep it more real...all the actors look so "perfects",  as time goes by the becoming more and more neat -faces, skin color, their hair style fashion and even do makeup.

 

I recognise J them and know who is who ...mostly by the face, but also because of the hair style..ha ha :lol: ,, i even up until recently can tell you who is Japanese who is Korean and who is Chinese, combination of  things . did you see "pornographer"? i think it's one of the best iv'e seen. but yes...the hairstyle is the same!!!!:joy: so maybe you can skip...

 

You write about the light.:joy:,it's funny because  i wanted to write that is a big advantage, they professional of lighting because through play with  shadows  & light they show emotions...,, so we don't see it the same also here:))

 

Nevertheless i think it's because i like things that restrained so it's a matter of taste no wright or wrong.. 

 

14 hours ago, Mel_Rios said:

Even IF Drake was chosen by his looks (which are great, by the way: Can't think of Mork without Drake acting it) that is up the the casting team and the director. I am sure FRANK was NOT chosen by his acting skills; unless they wanted a huge fiasco from the beginning. :lol:

 

Yes...Frank chosen mostly because his look...and also he is cheerful,attractive,  they both are like that..so this is also important i guess

 

14 hours ago, Mel_Rios said:

( I most have then somewhere) with Drake & Khatong

Can you put a pic of Khatong?

 

14 hours ago, Mel_Rios said:

BUT they didn't find someone to perform Au, and New was too young to play that role. It needs a certain Chinese look; not easy to find.

 

interesting...that how its goes

 

14 hours ago, Mel_Rios said:

As for the white skin... This has nothing to do with western and is not an GMMTV Thailand discriminating issue:

 This is around all asia... having that "prefect look" if you are white skinned, tall... and gods knows what else:

Remember "2 MOONS The Series"...? (not a GMMTV production) - What does Forth say to Wayo about Phana in EP 2 on the pong scene?

 

We will agree not to agree about that, but what is true that it's all over the world and not just for Thai /Asia

 

Anyways thank for the information it was interesting, i don't know how you know all this information...it astonishing

 

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2 hours ago, WeLoveSoompi said:

Where is AJ in this picture? Left or Right?

IG:aj__chayapol

 

Image may contain: 2 people, people standing

Looks like the The chin of his brother is longer (right)

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45 minutes ago, morkingtee said:

6. Mork has a DVD selling business and it pays well according to his intro

 Yeah but when he tried to get the money, he had 2.083 bath. How did he manage to find so much in such short notice?

Morn told him he has to pay before the next day, the day he passes with Tee (first date).

I don't deny Mork gaves him the money,  But where did he find it?

 

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7 minutes ago, mellialuna said:

 Yeah but when he tried to get the money, he had 2.083 bath. How did he manage to find so much in such short notice?

Morn told him he has to pay before the next day, the day he passes with Tee (first date).

I don't deny Mork gaves him the money,  But where did he find it?

 

 

I always thought 2.083 Baht is what left in his account after he withdrew 20.000. So he had a total of 22.083 in his account to begin with.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, JAN said:
14 hours ago, Mel_Rios said:

As for the white skin... This has nothing to do with western and is not an GMMTV Thailand discriminating issue:

 This is around all asia... having that "prefect look" if you are white skinned, tall... and gods knows what else:

Remember "2 MOONS The Series"...? (not a GMMTV production) - What does Forth say to Wayo about Phana in EP 2 on the pong scene?

 

We will agree not to agree about that, but what is true that it's all over the world and not just for Thai /Asia

 

 

The must is to have a white skin, be tall and have big (no slanting) eyes! During my travels into south-east asia, i noticed almost all asian people (at the beach) wear clothes for go to the water. My lover explained it is mainly for protect skin from sun, in the way to always have a white skin. He also explain that the asian peoples with true brown/black skin (i had a thai friend with this kind of skin) are from rural origin, always working under the sun in the rice fields or other vegetables. In ordinary way, chinese peoples (even those working into rice fields) have white skin as milk (or copper taned for the nomad tribus), cause most of China have cold season (some place very cold). So, if you need actor with chinese look, they must choose one with pale skin!

 

And i agree, this white skin trend is valuable for the whole world. 

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3 minutes ago, morkingtee said:

 

I always thought 2.083 Baht is what left in his account after he withdrew 20.000. So he had a total of 22.083 in his account to begin with.

 

 

That's what i thought, but i'm not to sure now. I'll need to go back and watch the episode again to be certain. 

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31 minutes ago, JAN said:

You write about the light.:joy:,it's funny because  i wanted to write that is a big advantage, they professional of lighting because through play with  shadows  & light they show emotions...,, so we don't see it the same also here:))

 

My movie culture is mainly made, of course, with french old movies, and others, particularly from Germany and Italy, where they were masters of lighting. The US black & white movies was largely inspired from this european way (but too "flashy"). And i agree, play with the light give some true good effects that improve the acting, and gives more emotions. Unfortunately, it doesn't work, to my eyes, with japanese movie/serie, This default is compensate with some true good actors, but it's not enough for me!

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5 hours ago, Mel_Rios said:

 

 

Less prominent in Taiwan and yet visible also in their BL Series: :joy: :joy:

Come on...!! Alone all the HIStory stories...!! I think Jimmy was the only "tanned" BL character so far.

But the Taiwanese BLs also try to balance both boys like in Thailand... white & darker, also as a way to break the western idea that similar looks keeps gay guys together: blacks with blacks, latinos, etc... having in very rare occasions a mixed couple.

I believe for the USA "Boy Culture" was a tabu breaking gay movie in this direction. (but that is another thread issue).

 


Eh I'm not saying that they are tanned until brown, but just a light bronze tan kind, to give them a healthy look.
In History: My Hero, Mai Ying Xiong (Hero) is already that kind of tan.
I think Jiang in Obssessed ain't very white either. 

In fact, both leads in Red balloon aren't your typical pretty boy looks in terms of skin color and body type as compared to the japan bl kinds. (usually thin or skinny  and skin is VERY fair/white)
I think japan set the trend for the pretty boy looks in bl way back in the past :joy:

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8 hours ago, morkingtee said:

7. What happened to P'Som? She showed up 2 times (not 2 --episodes--) and like disappeared. Will she have any more involvement in the story?

 

Like Mellialuna said, it's strange to see P'Som in the credits when she only appears one time in the series! So I came to the conclusion that she must have an importance in the series one way or another...

 

I thought about it and here is a theory : if I remember correctly, P'Som says in the only ep. we see her that she has a new man in her life... Couldn't this man be Tee's father!? Maybe that's a crazy idea but it could tally with what Tee's father says to Mei when they argue in Tee's room : something like "You misunderstood, I already told you that I'm not gay"... Indeed if he is in a relationship with P'Som who is to all appearances a beautiful woman, it's more difficult to define him as "gay" than if he was dating a guy "who totally looks like one". As for him, he probably considers his lover as a woman, but if Mei caught them in bed she could have seen the only part of P'Som's body that remains "manly"... that would explain why, in her eyes, her ex-husband is well and truly gay*.

 

Does that hypothesis seem totally absurd for you guys??? 

 

* (I'm sorry, I lack of english vocabulary too much to be able to clearly express what I wanted to say here... So I hope it's still understandable and not too clumsy or offensive. I could neither find good turns of phrase nor better words. As for the word "define", it really doesn't suit me because, obviously, a person can't be "defined" by her sexual orientation, that would be a total aberration)

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4 minutes ago, lelliae said:

 

Like Mellialuna said, it's strange to see P'Som in the credits when she only appears one time in the series! So I came to the conclusion that she must have an importance in the series one way or another...

 

I thought about it and here is a theory : if I remember correctly, P'Som says in the only ep. we see her that she has a new man in her life... Couldn't this man be Tee's father!? Maybe that's a crazy idea but it could tally with what Tee's father says to Mei when they argue in Tee's room : something like "You misunderstood, I already told you that I'm not gay"... Indeed if he is in a relationship with P'Som who is to all appearances a beautiful woman, it's more difficult to define him as "gay" than if he was dating a guy "who totally looks like one". As for him, he probably considers his lover as a woman, but if Mei caught them in bed she could have seen the only part of P'Som's body that remains "manly"... that would explain why, in her eyes, her ex-husband is well and truly gay*.

 

Does that hypothesis seem totally absurd for you guys??? 

 

* (I'm sorry, I lack of english vocabulary too much to be able to clearly express what I wanted to say here... So I hope it's still understandable and not to clumsy. I could neither find good turns of phrase nor better words. As for the word "define", it really doesn't suit me because, obviously, a person can't be "defined" by her sexual orientation, that would be a total aberration)

 

"Label" is another frequently used word for this case.

 

But yeah, I also have this same guess after the last episode. I just rewatched all of them today.

 

One other thing that jumped out at me is Mork and Tee conversation on the side of the street after the hospital discharge. Mork mentioned Tee disappeared for a year and they became strangers after that. And it's been established they haven't seen each other for 3 years. So what is the time line here?  How would you interpret these statements?

 

 

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1 hour ago, morkingtee said:

One other thing that jumped out at me is Mork and Tee conversation on the side of the street after the hospital discharge. Mork mentioned Tee disappeared for a year and they became strangers after that. And it's been established they haven't seen each other for 3 years. So what is the time line here?  How would you interpret these statements?

 

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Maybe Mork means that Tee disappeared from his sight for a year because he couldn't even catch sight of him in school anymore (indeed Mei said Tee stopped going to class for a year, so for Mork he was nowhere to be found within the school). Then, when Tee came back to school after that, they were like total strangers even though they were attending the same school because life has gone on (that lasted for two years, until the beginning of the series when they speak to each other again)... And like that we indeed have 3 years of non-contact between them.

 

Maybe it's just due to the slight difference in the word "seen" which can mean "see with the eyes, have in field of vision" or "see each other, hang out with"?


Actually, given my english level I'm in no position to give an english grammar course :lol: 

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9 hours ago, morkingtee said:

There are only 3 episodes left in the series but some of the early mysteries still remained. 


 

Spoiler

 

1. Bambi's second(??) phone in Tee's possession. This is from episode 2 when Mork tried to call Bambi for Tee but a black phone was shown ringing in Tee's bag. We have seen several times Bambi has a pink phone.

 

2. Au made a phone call to "Bambi" from Mork phone and totally ignored the conversation when "Bambi" called back. I still don't know the intention. We don't know if this is real "Bambi" or not.

 

3. Bambi, Au, Tee relationship. Mama knows Au well and the 2 families are close. So it's certainly Tee and Au know each other, even though they're not friends. Tee must also have know Bambi is Au's sister. And yet Mork is kept in the dark of this circle.

 

4. Who pulled some strings on the Principal? He changed his mind about Mork's expulsion the next day.

 

5. Au is in possession of the porn DVDs envelope. Did he order it? Did he receive it or he just didn't mail it?

 

6. Morn's tuition money and what he has been up to on days he is not having tutoring classes.

 

7. What happened to P'Som? She showed up 2 times (not 2 --episodes--) and like disappeared. Will she have any more involvement in the story?

 

I leave out Au and Mork pants-down business since it's not quite a *mystery* and next episode seems to resolve it.

 

So what do you guys think about these points? Did I miss anything? Please chime in.


 

 

 

(1) Bambie didn't have a second phone. I am 100% sure that was something Tee cooked up to pretend to Mork he was being heart broken with bambie, so that Mork would feel guilty and responsible and agree to do anything Tee asked him to do... like become "fake boyfriends". In the end that was a deal: Tee would clean the school toilets the 3 weeks Mork had to and in exchange Mork would become his "fake boyfriend". 

 

(2) I said from the beginning that voice of the girl calling back can not be Bambie. And also that that conversation started as Au was already out of the class... so he didn't know Ton mention Bambie in that moment. :smirk:

 

(3) Since Tee has never been close to Au despite being close to Bambie I don't see why he would have to tell Mork about it. Specially since Au and Mork are so close friends. Mork should know this directly from Au already (only he doesn't).

I bet Ching always knew. By the way: WHERE IS CHING...??!! :flushed:

 

(4) For me it most have been Mei... Tee's mum. She made a deal with Mork already about it before... and I think seeing how stubborn Tee is with her she may have decided not to keep on being a B**** and help Mork with this. Also she may know that Mork kept silent about Tee's identity and didn't involved him in that scandal. This most have been the proof of love she wanted from Mork. :love:

BUT.., we know how many surprises the script has gave us... Maybe it was Au or Ton thru other channels.

 

(5) OK... let's see. Au has been in love with Mork like forever... Au was from the beginning Mork's favorite (he said that in EP 1) because he always consent him in many ways... I am sure Au has been ordering the dvd's to help Mork ear money all these years; even if he doesn't have any interest in watching then. The fact he knew where to find the films for Mork and burn the dvd's already shows that he doesn't need the dvd's at all. He could watch the films by himself any time over the internet. :astonished:

 

(6) The mystery pending to be solve. Mork has that talk pending with his little brother.

Mork was very upset because his little brother Morn was lying to him.  :cry:

 

8 hours ago, pleck said:

6) In one of the previous episodes, Morn told Gord he spent all the money Mork gave him on his classes. Assuming he isn't lying, that just leaves the question where Morn went instead. I think it may be related to the gang he recently joined.

 

I can't believe that Morn joined that gang of stupid students... He always rejected them all the times they tried to fool him into joining... as they were actually teasing him because he doesn't own a smartphone. I think he has been doing the extra home works in the time he said to be attending class and hasn't spend any of the money at all. He biggest goal is to help his dad with the businesses; so I can't truly imagine him doing anything wrong. BUT he lied to his brother about attending the tutorials classes... so there is something going on.

 

(7) Is this one important...?? :joy:

 

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One issue is still also open:

 

Tee and his mum relationship.

 

That seems to me is the only big issue that needs to be solve openly, as it influences the relationship of the main BL couple.

How will that be solved...?? Grandma may play a role... and Lek... and Tee's father already pressure her to finally accept Tee's choices.

Lek was totally in favor of the boys... Grandma was very friendly to Mork (we don't know If she knows, but I guess she knows already). The way she treated Mork showed a deep affection, and not a simple and superficial politeness. She even give him extra home made cookies for Mork to bring to his little brother (something that surprised me... Mork asking for cookies for Morn).

 

And there is also a review Mork and Tee need to do. At least I feel we need to see them talking about all what has happened; even if most of it has been "resolve".

 

As for the "Au Affair"... I already proved that my defendant is: "NOT GUILTY :innocent:

 

 

Cheers...!!

 

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9 hours ago, mellialuna said:

6- More than that, how Mork manage to have those 20.000 baths ?

 

8 hours ago, morkingtee said:

 

6. Mork has a DVD selling business and it pays well according to his intro

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Yes... the dvd sales can make him easily those 20.000 THB in one month...

Remember also in the school canteen, as Tee tricked Mork into the "fake relationship"...??

There was one of Mork clients to pay 500 for one oder... that is 40 orders in one month to make the 20.000 THB.

How many students were always looking at the "promos" on the iPad in the barber shop...??

I guess their pocket money was turn into dvd's as well... :joy:

Not to mention that it seems also Au has been ordering like a lot... even if he doesn't need then :lol:

 

Cheers...!!

 

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6 hours ago, alvinyl said:


Eh I'm not saying that they are tanned until brown, but just a light bronze tan kind, to give them a healthy look.
In History: My Hero, Mai Ying Xiong (Hero) is already that kind of tan.
I think Jiang in Obssessed ain't very white either. 

In fact, both leads in Red balloon aren't your typical pretty boy looks in terms of skin color and body type as compared to the japan bl kinds. (usually thin or skinny  and skin is VERY fair/white)
I think japan set the trend for the pretty boy looks in bl way back in the past :joy:

 

Yes... that is why I said mostly productions try to balance somehow this issue. Also, in Taiwan I believe most BL productions have been made by CHOCO TV... and the writers and directors are mostly women... so they tend to have a little more Japanese BL influence... going for the super-natural story-types...

 

"Red Balloon" is a Web Series from KKTV; and not a TV Series;  which I believe was the very first BL they produce... having now also "Mermaid Sauna - 美男魚澡堂" and they seems to work more independent and in the style of the Taiwanese movies "Eternal Summer" and "Girlfriend & Boyfriend"... using some historical backgrounds but also some swap tendencies; and this shows in their castings as well.

 

By the way: Any news on the law for opening marriage to all in Taiwan yet?

The Supreme Court ruled a 2 years term to change the law... and is over one year already; but I know there have been strong opposition to it since then, having 2 appeals already overruled. There is even a Referendum going on as well against the Supreme Court ruling...???

 

 Cheers...!!

 

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