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On 8/31/2018 at 6:09 PM, 122am said:

 

The speaker and QL Electronics guy are part of the report by the reporter's website. They both need the hospital (owned by Hwayeong) to report that the nurse, aka girl who died, was killed due to the male reporter pushing her to the floor. When he pushed her to the floor, the cause of death will be "blunt force trauma". It's a general reason, so that the male reporter can be jailed as the "murderer".

 

The truth is, when he pushed her, she was still alive. They sent her to hospital 1 (small hospital), but they refuse to take her in. This step was arranged or bribed, so that the girl can be sent to Sangkook Hospital (owned by Hwayeong). When the girl is sent to Sangkook, she was near death and died there. This may mean that, along the journey, she was killed. That's why the doctors are pushing for autopsy, they want to know the truth about how she died. So that if really it was the male reporter who killed her, he goes to jail. But if not, they want to investigate the truth so that the girl will not die for nothing.

 

Why did the girl die? Actually, the Speaker and QL Electronics guy just want to bury the case. So it may be that they want to kill her off, so that there is no witness. 

 

Now that Sangkook Hospital can change the cause of death, QL guy owes Hwayeong chairman a favour. QL guy has to cooperate with Hwayeong chairman about the health app, since he has the mobile company and can make it happen. 

 

It's like, I help you one, you help me back, kind of thing. 

 

@122am Thank you so much for your post.

With your post and @bedifferent above help me get the link of reporter/speaker/CEO/QL/doctors/president ... and everyone involved

Exciting for EP 13!

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On 9/1/2018 at 5:45 PM, 40somethingahjumma said:

The unpredictability of the human will is a fascinating aspect of this drama... probably the most fascinating element. People do things for all kinds of reasons and often not for the purest motives. I suppose LNE wants GSH to do "the right thing" because he is a "good man". But what is the "right thing" for a man like GSH who is at the beck and call of his conglomerate master? People can be forced to do the right thing  even when they don't want to when there's something on the line for them, as GSH was forced to hold the autopsy because it was expedient to at the time. LNE thinks that JW got involved with the autopsy kerfuffle "for the love of the reporter". But JW is a guy who does care about doing the right thing but he's afraid to stand up and be counted on most occasions. That's obviously changing especially when he now has an ally in Dr Joo and he's emboldened with each instance of success. It is naive, IMO to think that people only do the "right thing" because  they are "good people" as LNE does. Or that somehow people sit down and weigh up pros and cons and do the most logical thing. Most people do the right thing either because they have no choice and/or because it suits them to do so at the time. Even the Assist Director got into the fray... not because he thinks doing the autopsy is "the right thing" to do but because it benefits him politically. Take also the example of the parents of the brain dead girl who finally relented in donating the organs. For many of us donating organs of loved ones is a no brainer. But is it really "wrong" not to? But then people can be persuaded to change their minds with changing circumstances. 

None of us trust our politicians to do "the right thing" on their own, I imagine but there are ways in which we can pressure them... looming elections etc and threat of exposure of some indiscretion committed... into doing the "right thing". It's the same with the Powerful Evil Corporations. 

 

On 9/2/2018 at 12:52 AM, bedifferent said:

Love what you said here. About GSH and YJW.  Like @staygold mentioned before, Seung-Hyo's office and the Ye brothers' apartment are shrouded in shadows, visually depicting the world of both men. Where pres Goo operates for his company in the behind the scenes maneuvers, Jin Woo himself couldn't wield the courage to fight in the open.  From how he first obtained the report, posting it anonymously to letting Dr. Joo taking the blame, it's his insecure way of dealing and solving problems.  He leans on the imaginary Seon-woo, his conscience, to judge his actions.   Jin-woo's confidence changes as the drama progresses.  Visually again, we were showed through Jin-woo stepping into the sunlight and going outside as he learns to do things on his own.  We also see less and less of imaginary Seon-woo, who appeared last when Jin-woo deliberating using the parents for the autopsy pictures. It was Seon-woo in real life who complimented that he did the right thing by filing the complaint vs. Dr. Kim the legal way through HIRA. At the time he didn't know of his own brother's investigation, doing so rewards him without the need for underhanded stuffs.  Dr. Joo's place as his new mentor is similar to Dr. Lee as he also involves in Seon-woo's care.  He's in a good place to temper Jin-woo's newfound righteous temperament as he is a seasoned soldier whose realistically in the fight for people like Jin-woo.

@bedifferent @40somethingahjumma As always I enjoyed reading all your perspectives and input. It is for this very reason that JW's character in this drama resonates with me the most. While I am not a doctor , I am probably at the same level as JW where the pecking order at work is concerned , so I can completely understand how tough it is to stand up against the decisions of the bosses without risking one's bread & butter, or ruffling some feathers. I empathise with him because I don't consider myself extremely outspoken or brave IRL, sometimes preferring to just let things slide in order to maintain peace and to stay out of trouble. But as I have learnt , like JW , there will be times in your career or life where you will need to stand up and be counted ;  though breaking out of one's shell or comfort zone  is not easy :sweatingbullets:.

 

I agree that LNE may be a tad too naive by equating good deeds to a person's good character. We've all seen enough IRL that a lot of kind acts etc are not necessarily borne out of a person's values or ethics. Doing the right thing can be often be due to the need to put up a facade,  or perhaps like in Dr Oh's case to save face. In the latter's case , I do think to an extent that she made the call to expose the truth because it does conflict with her principles as a doctor , but  it may not have been a strong enough factor for her to speak up if Joo had not pointed out that she would lose face if the autopsy proves she was wrong.

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Oh dear. It’s Mr Gu against the world today. I wanttttt to hug him. I hope people soon realise he’s not evil. LNE girl, please don’t let me down. I’m rooting for you. Be useful, k? 

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6 minutes ago, azuwaza163 said:

Oh dear. It’s Mr Gu against the world today. I wanttttt to hug him. I hope people soon realise he’s not evil. LNE girl, please don’t let me down. I’m rooting for you. Be useful, k? 


" Be useful " <<=== :lol::lol:

 

 

Guy! 30 minute to EP13

I'm at work but will sneak peak at jtbc drama youtube chanel 

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16 minutes ago, piekeboeboe said:

 


" Be useful " <<=== :lol::lol:

 

 

Guy! 30 minute to EP13

I'm at work but will sneak peak at jtbc drama youtube chanel 

is this live? 

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5 minutes ago, Jusyed said:

is this live? 


Youtube chanel is not LIVE

When episode air at 23.00 local time in seoul,  a couple minute later they  will post new cut videos.
 

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6 minutes ago, piekeboeboe said:


Youtube chanel is not LIVE

When episode air at 23.00 local time in seoul,  a couple minute later they  will post new cut videos.
 

Thank you so much 

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Oh no, did my broship just sink in this episode?:tears: Glutton lied to/ignored Worker Ant - why? Was he unforgiving because Mr. Gu fired LNE of was he deeply bothered by something else atm? Anyway, he only has his PA by his side now and I worry more and more about his fate by the end of the drama. My only hope is that LSY won't play the same card twice and instead give him a chance to win AND stay alive.

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AGB Nielsen Ratings

 

Episode 1 (7/23/18):  4.334%

Episode 2 (7/24/18):   4.974%

Episode 3 (7/30/18):   4.601%

Episode 4 (7/31/18):   4.493%

Episode 5 (8/6/18):     4.328%

Episode 6 (8/7/18):     4.466%

Episode 7 (8/13/18):   4.116%

Episode 8 (9/14/18):   4.591%

Episode 9 (8/20/18):    4.538%

Episode 10 (8/21/18):  5.150%

Episode 11 (8/27/18):  4.532%

Episode 12 (8/28/18):  5.310%

Episode 13 (9/3/18):    4.920%

 

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Where is Dr.Oh?!! oh President Gu everyone is misunderstanding you. Even Glutton is starting to doubt you now. You still have us viewers.

 

I really hope No Eul fight him to get some sort of truth out, only she trying to get more out than just accepting the fact that he's bad. 

 

 

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A sweet quiet episode.  Not too plot forwarding, introspective look at our characters' relationships.

  • I hope this is the last episode of gloom for Seon-woo. I'm glad his brother and mom have accepted his wish of moving out and on.  It's what you do with the time that is given to you.   
  • This episode is an ode to all the caretakers out there.  Whether you are doing it out of guilt or love, salute and thank you.
  • Seon-woo continuously asking to be not judged by his disability at work.  Love how his co workers are beginning to understand his need not to be handle with care.  He just want to be recognized on his merits and treated without reverse discrimination.
  • Seung-Hyo has this great gift of perception except when it is regarding matter of his own heart.  Otherwise, his meeting with Seon-woo was respectful to SW's feelings.  He wasn't pushy or overstepped his boundaries.  I like that he lets Seon-woo dictates what he wants to do and say.  
  • Seon-woo's love for No-Eul is a marvelous thing to witness because he came in spite of his disability.
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  • I hope Seung-Hyo won't step aside for Seon-woo in regard to No-Eul and this budding romance.  It's important for No-Eul to bring closure the right way when the time comes for Seon-woo.  Please let her have a second chance.
  • I absolutely love the relationship between Mummy and the Ye brothers.  How gentle and deep they care for each other translate to how Jin-woo cares for his residents and Seon-woo for his job.
  • Jin-woo's lucky.  I wish he showed her Seon-woo's pic in wheelchair.  That's one way to know if she's the one.
  • It's cute that Greek god can be insecure in love.
  • Ms Kang is the best assistant ever.  She deserves a raise.
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  • Jo Seung Woo should do rom-com next.
  • Mr. Gu, you are burdened with the thought of doing the right thing.  Please let others help you.

 

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Am i the only here who doesn’t like mr gu and naeul? Like i love them individually but i still like the original love line, i hope the writer sticks to the original plan. 

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30 minutes ago, Josh Marquez said:

Am i the only here who doesn’t like mr gu and naeul? Like i love them individually but i still like the original love line, i hope the writer sticks to the original plan. 

 

Hello and welcome to the thread. :)

 

I'm ok either way, with love line or no.  I prefer that the changes in Goo are also from others, not solely from No-Eul, so I'm thrilled that his lessons in humanity have been twice coming from Seon-woo. 

 

The first time in the office, Seon-woo requested Goo to create an environment where speaking up isn't considering snitching or betraying colleagues but rather is needed to point out a wrong to prevent fewer accidents in the future. At the time, Seon-woo has confidence in Gu's ability to do so because Seung-Hyo puts in a lot of effort in whatever he does.   Seon-woo believes he is the right president to cure the hospital's woes because he will try hard to change the hospital culture. In exchange, Seung-Hyo will get time to remove Deputy Director Kim.  Fast forward, they met again, this time it was Seon-woo didn't give up despite how physically difficult for him to come. Seon-woo's resiliency and this goodness, this untouchable human spirit or optimism or whatever you call it touched prez Goo more than he realized.   I think he will remember their conversation when it comes to Jin-woo's dilemma. I wouldn't be surprised if Seung-Hyo comes to Jin-woo's rescue for reporting Dr. Kim.  It's the one way I can see how they can start to work with each other.

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