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1 hour ago, mouse007 said:

 

 

@rocky689 @rimjayc I don’t think it’s necessarily a cultural thing and I have seen it in J and K dramas as well where the kisses are very chaste. I do think they take into consideration the audience and also how old/young the actors/actresses are. 

 

well all the cultures you mentioned are conservative, so I wouldn't be surprised if the directing of these (TERRIBLE) kisses across c/j/kdramas was intentional. Growing up in Southeast Asia and studying abroad/working in East Asia, I'd say that women in these countries are generally not at all encouraged to openly enjoy intimacy. To be fair, in real life, Asian young adults don't always act so frustratingly chaste like in the dramas, and we've definitely seen improvement when kdramas go cable, escaping possibly conservative restriction of public network TV (i.e. tvn dramas have much better/realistic kisses, for example). I would also say that a lot of my male Asian friends/ex-bfs are terrible at kissing, most likely because their gfs never tell them that they were bad (or when they were good, since they're not supposed to you know, enjoy/not enjoy it). I finished What's wrong with Secretary Kim around the time that I started MG, and really wished Park Seo Joon could just hold a Master Class in kissing for Didi :| (and Park Min Young for YueYue).

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Is it a cultural thing to talk about getting married so young? Unless I have this wrong, DMS should be 22-23 and SC 20 or at the most 21 - but she is not done with school. Seems very young for elite, college-educated people.

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4 minutes ago, bccem99 said:

Is it a cultural thing to talk about getting married so young? Unless I have this wrong, DMS should be 22-23 and SC 20 or at the most 21. Seems very young for elite, college-educated people.

 

You should be glad the Taiwanese and Chinese versions changed the setting to university instead of high school. That was one reason I could never get behind the Korean or Japanese versions, it just felt too ridiculous. I know they don't get married immediately, but this over the top larger than life love story felt even more unrealistic.

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2 hours ago, lan_lan said:

 

Hi my friend! I haven't been here in soo long since I'm busy subbing AIL, so I haven't had anytime to watch MG since episode 32!  Can you believe that? lol.  I am super happy to hear that.  I will be bingeing the rest in one go once the drama finishes uploading on NF.  Can't wait!!  Give me a holler on how you feel once you see the finale :)

Hey hi @lan_lan!!!! Long time no see!! Haha. I found from one of my friend who is watching AIL that you are subbing it. It must be a very strenous work to sub a whole show. Thank you so much for your hard work, I intend to watch it once I get over my MG obssession. Eeeee. I'll definitely ping you after I finish watching the ending and let you know how it is. 

 

23 minutes ago, bccem99 said:

Is it a cultural thing to talk about getting married so young? Unless I have this wrong, DMS should be 22-23 and SC 20 or at the most 21 - but she is not done with school. Seems very young for elite, college-educated people.

It definitely is!!! I'm 22 myself, and not my parents as much but my relatives have already started asking when I'll get married. I hate going to family ceremonies because of the same reason. Gahhhh. Boys get a little more time though...LOL. But I do admit that not all East Asian families are like that, times have changed and people have become more forward. But since it's a manga that is from 1990s, I guess its not that weird at that time to get married early. 

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29 minutes ago, rocky689 said:

 

You should be glad the Taiwanese and Chinese versions changed the setting to university instead of high school. That was one reason I could never get behind the Korean or Japanese versions, it just felt too ridiculous. I know they don't get married immediately, but this over the top larger than life love story felt even more unrealistic.

I am actually very happy that they changed it to a university setting. But, at times it still didn't make any sense. Like, for example the scenes when the rumors were going around and everyone bullied Shancai because of that and she was basically shunned. In Universities over here, everyone minds their own business so I found that aspect of the drama unbelievable. But, it is a drama after all. 

 

@bccem99, I believe it is a cultural thing to talk about getting married young. I for one, got married at 21 and now my parents are already asking for kids (22 now). Most of my cousins also got married young and started their family young... Lol

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1 hour ago, insertusernamehere said:

well all the cultures you mentioned are conservative, so I wouldn't be surprised if the directing of these (TERRIBLE) kisses across c/j/kdramas was intentional. Growing up in Southeast Asia and studying abroad/working in East Asia, I'd say that women in these countries are generally not at all encouraged to openly enjoy intimacy. To be fair, in real life, Asian young adults don't always act so frustratingly chaste like in the dramas, and we've definitely seen improvement when kdramas go cable, escaping possibly conservative restriction of public network TV (i.e. tvn dramas have much better/realistic kisses, for example). I would also say that a lot of my male Asian friends/ex-bfs are terrible at kissing, most likely because their gfs never tell them that they were bad (or when they were good, since they're not supposed to you know, enjoy/not enjoy it). I finished What's wrong with Secretary Kim around the time that I started MG, and really wished Park Seo Joon could just hold a Master Class in kissing for Didi :| (and Park Min Young for YueYue).

 

@insertusernamehere yes, it's true all the cultures I mentioned are conservative but they also have other dramas where the women kiss better (say Queen In Hyun's Man for example). I think if the actor/actresses in the drama are relatively young, they might tone down the kissing/intimacy so as not to offend the general public. I grew up in Southeast Asia as well and now living in North America and culture (to some extent) does play a part in TV shows/dramas. I think more conservative countries generally play it safe. 

 

Although to be honest, I think part of the charm of Asian dramas is that they don't rely on the physical contact to convey the depth of their emotions. I feel like part of the reason as to why we are so hooked is because the physical contact isn't as prevalent and so we are left eagerly waiting and hoping for more. And also because of it, a simple kiss or a touch means so much more. It makes us watch for hidden meanings in the way they look at each other, the meaning behind their words, etc. 

 

I'm planning on watching What's Wrong with Secretary Kim too. I'll be thinking of what you said when I do watch it. LOL

 

47 minutes ago, rocky689 said:

 

You should be glad the Taiwanese and Chinese versions changed the setting to university instead of high school. That was one reason I could never get behind the Korean or Japanese versions, it just felt too ridiculous. I know they don't get married immediately, but this over the top larger than life love story felt even more unrealistic.

 

@rocky689 totally agree with you here. Watching the other versions of MG, I always thought it was a bit unbelievable that they were going through all of it in high school. I think it's more realistic for all of it to take place in university. I also think it opens the door for a wedding more so than a high school setting.

 

49 minutes ago, bccem99 said:

Is it a cultural thing to talk about getting married so young? Unless I have this wrong, DMS should be 22-23 and SC 20 or at the most 21 - but she is not done with school. Seems very young for elite, college-educated people.

 

@bccem99 I don't think it's necessarily cultural. I think some people just choose to get married young. I have several friends who actually married around that age. I personally wouldn't have - I wouldn't have been ready but it works for other people. In DS and SC's case, I think it's okay since they've already been through a lot more than what average people would go through and DS is financially stable. LOL

 

BUT having said that, I think it's more widely accepted or more common in certain cultures especially those with arranged marriages.

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3 hours ago, cantbreathe said:

 

Yeah, it’s so hard to watch when SC is chasing Lei! It’s a bit pathetic, and boy do you feel sorry for DMS when she keeps staring at Lei right in front of him.

I actually can’t watch the scene where Lei kisses SC on the beach and DMS sees it. It’s too upsetting!   :persevere:

I couldn't handle it. I end up skipping half of the scenes. It's like, Si treats her so nice!! At this point he's not even bullying her. But she still kept chasing Lei. I felt so bad for DMS. 

The moment they kissed on the beach, I was like.. I bet DMS is watching them. And, of course he is. Lol so typical in a drama. 

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1 hour ago, kokodus said:

Hey hi @lan_lan!!!! Long time no see!! Haha. I found from one of my friend who is watching AIL that you are subbing it. It must be a very strenous work to sub a whole show. Thank you so much for your hard work, I intend to watch it once I get over my MG obssession. Eeeee. I'll definitely ping you after I finish watching the ending and let you know how it is.  

 

It got me out of the MG obsession that’s why I’m willing to put in the work. Oops lol. If you need a cure for MG hangover it’ll be there!

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You know what is lack in this week episodes?

The kiss!! .. I missed all those kisses

the atmosphere is there but why there's no kiss

I mean real kiss on the lips and not in forehead !

Is it only me that got frustrated by this simple act? :joy: 

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2 hours ago, mouse007 said:

 


Although to be honest, I think part of the charm of Asian dramas is that they don't rely on the physical contact to convey the depth of their emotions. I feel like part of the reason as to why we are so hooked is because the physical contact isn't as prevalent and so we are left eagerly waiting and hoping for more. And also because of it, a simple kiss or a touch means so much more. It makes us watch for hidden meanings in the way they look at each other, the meaning behind their words, etc. 

Well said @mouse007 I like my passionate kisses but the sweet chaste kinda kisses here makes me squeal more. Like I was really looking forward to that cheek kiss because it's in the trailers and MVs and I thought they really looked happy, sweet and chummy.  I always love how he bends forward to meet with her eyes. The best part about the height difference, I don't care about his back and neck muscles but that really is a very cute gesture. But it was a bittersweet moment in the show, like he knew it was his last moment with her, it broke my heart. Sighhh. 

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3 hours ago, kokodus said:

Well said @mouse007 I like my passionate kisses but the sweet chaste kinda kisses here makes me squeal more. Like I was really looking forward to that cheek kiss because it's in the trailers and MVs and I thought they really looked happy, sweet and chummy.  I always love how he bends forward to meet with her eyes. The best part about the height difference, I don't care about his back and neck muscles but that really is a very cute gesture. But it was a bittersweet moment in the show, like he knew it was his last moment with her, it broke my heart. Sighhh. 

 

I read that in other productions where there is a significant height diff, the females are asked to stand on a stool or phone directories so the male only needs to bend a little. Sometimes the female lead goes on tippy toes. 

 

SC as far as I’ve seen lets Si do all the work. Lols. Poor fella peering and craning his back like an evil wizard...Gargamel comes to mind.

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i have no idea what they're talking about, i'm just thinking to myself the whole time: personal space is soooo overrated :lol:

 

 

credits to MT jesi @ youtube. 

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@myinnerbattles

 

in the video, the group is being interviewed for their musical. Their responses are short and a little awkward. It must have been an impromptu one because they weren’t prepared and gave one line answers that trail off hoping some other would continue. They were very polite and careful with what they said to not offend anyone.

 

in the last bit, they were asked to summarize what they thought of each other..and give each one a label.

Dylan was the tiger of the group, being the cool cat and the noisiest; also one who deserves to be beat up most.

Ceasar was the mouse (? if I got it right haha), makes himself look good particularly to the opposite sex.

Darren was the silly one, often sleeps and hardly knows what’s is going on.

the last two were the ones totally out of it and don’t know this from that with Connor being the giraffe of the group and Yue being the cutie pie.

 

but what had me grinning was Dylan’s first impression of Yue - he said he found her pretty and went on a short rant about how on earth was it possible to have a girl so beautiful. 

Such a sweet talker...

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34 minutes ago, rocat said:

@myinnerbattles

 

in the video, the group is being interviewed for their musical. Their responses are short and a little awkward. It must have been an impromptu one because they weren’t prepared and gave one line answers that trail off hoping some other would continue. They were very polite and careful with what they said to not offend anyone.

 

in the last bit, they were asked to summarize what they thought of each other..and give each one a label.

Dylan was the tiger of the group, being the cool cat and the noisiest; also one who deserves to be beat up most.

Ceasar was the mouse (? if I got it right haha), makes himself look good particularly to the opposite sex.

Darren was the silly one, often sleeps and hardly knows what’s is going on.

the last two were the ones totally out of it and don’t know this from that with Connor being the giraffe of the group and Yue being the cutie pie.

 

but what had me grinning was Dylan’s first impression of Yue - he said he found her pretty and went on a short rant about how on earth was it possible to have a girl so beautiful. 

Such a sweet talker...

 

@rocat thank you for giving us an idea of what was going on! I was dying to know because they all look so shy and so cute. I love how short SY is and how she has to look up to the boys because of the height difference. They are sooooo adorable being so polite, good little kids! LOL

 

It made me squeal when you said that Dylan went on a short rant about how he found SY pretty and how on earth it was possible to have a girl so beautiful.. gaaaahh!!! Just date IRL already!!! 

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8 hours ago, kokodus said:

Well said @mouse007 I like my passionate kisses but the sweet chaste kinda kisses here makes me squeal more. Like I was really looking forward to that cheek kiss because it's in the trailers and MVs and I thought they really looked happy, sweet and chummy.  I always love how he bends forward to meet with her eyes. The best part about the height difference, I don't care about his back and neck muscles but that really is a very cute gesture. But it was a bittersweet moment in the show, like he knew it was his last moment with her, it broke my heart. Sighhh. 

 

@kokodus I love it too when he bends down to look at her eyes.. I think in a way it also symbolizes how willing he is to go down to her level (her world). So sweet! 

 

and yes, the sweet chaste kisses kill me too! I think it's the build up, the anticipation for those precious sweet moments!

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Just saw this pic on Twitter.. aren't they all so cute? Look at how cute Didi is posing, slightly bending towards SY and her smile! I thought all of them look so good in this one. :love:

 

 

 
And this one... I DIED! How adorable is this video and Angie Chai chimes in too..LOLZ
 
 

 

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@rocat @insertusernamehere do you know what the question was around 4:14 of the video where Caesar and SY pointed at Didi? What were they saying?

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They were asked about singing abilities and that they shld point to who they thought sang best at the count of 3.

 

think Yue and Ceasar were pointing at each other. 

 

Dylan was sorta self-deprecating about his singing abilities but Yue came to his defense and said he raps well. Aww.

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He did say that she was cute but he said it in an exaggerated way to annoy her LOL still super cute though!

 

He was saying it in a joking way. In an earlier interview he said his first impression of her, he couldn't remember to tease her. She actually has a lot of haters who bash her for her looks online in China. They all say she doesn't have a memorable looking face, like you'd meet her, but pass her by on the street, because she's so ordinary. He seems to really like to tease her about that. I've also noticed that this show took a lot of what people use to bash her online into the script...poor Shen Yue :(

 

 

 

Netflix Japan is kind of slow on the subbed episodes, she hasn't reached the Caina/Terrence arc yet, might shed a tear or two over that

 

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