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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] Ever Night 将夜

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12 minutes ago, epinklyn said:

This is BTS where First Brother and NQ chit chat about 天书, i like this scene very much, NQ act like his age as little brother, feel safe, learning something and make a joke with First Brother, and First brother also act like big brother who will always take care of his little brother.

 

http://m.v.qq.com/play/play.html?coverid=rpup19lfbuf2skc&vid=k00297h42c1&ptag=2_6.2.2.17137_copy

 

Ah btw i have a question, from the beginning until now, and from before NQ can cultivate until now, why everybody said NQ is weak? Either his friends or foes, isn't he excellent in combat? Or there is other meaning about 'weak'?, not just refer that he is still a newbie in cultivation world, and he only got 10 from 12 accupoint are opened.

Basically, it just mean he cannot cultivate due to his account being blocked. Whenever he tried doing it, he gets hurt himself. So when he gets into fight with real cultivator, he gets defeated right away. And also, nobody sees him before in real combat. Every time he did it, he always made it a secret and cover his face so nobody will know that it was him. So nobdy really knew what he is capable of except SS and The fish gangs and their leader. 

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3 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

So very true @angelangie...

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There was a scene when he mentioned suicide because he feared he would never have her with him again. The fear , the desperation and choice of abandoning the home because without her he would never go back to their little shop.  

It broke my heart when that was mentioned.  I hope they show all that raw and intense moment of realization WHAT SANG SANG REALLY MEANT TO HIM. 

People should see this before jumping into conclusion of him treating her badly to the point of beating her. Which by rhe way, not my word but from my point of view is not the appropriate word to use in describing the scene. Just my opinion. 

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27 minutes ago, epinklyn said:

 

Ah btw i have a question, from the beginning until now, and from before NQ can cultivate until now, why everybody said NQ is weak? Either his friends or foes, isn't he excellent in combat? Or there is other meaning about 'weak'?, not just refer that he is still a newbie in cultivation world, and he only got 10 from 12 accupoint are opened.

He is a weak cultivator, but a very strong fighter. If he fights against ordinary guys -> wins. If he fights against cultivators -> mostly loose, although he wins sometimes. Although he is very talented , smart and his progress is really fast (so that even YHY is wary of him), but he is still a beginner. MSS and YHY have been studying since they were kids, but NQ has only learned to be a cultivator for less than 2 years. Everytime he reaches a new stage, he has to face a much stronger opponent ..and the opponents just get stronger everytime . So, he is indeed weak. 

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2 minutes ago, rhaps said:

He is a weak cultivator, but a very strong fighter. If he fights against ordinary guys -> wins. If he fights against cultivators -> mostly loose, although he wins sometimes. Although he is very talented , smart and his progress is really fast (so that even YHY is wary of him), but he is still a beginner. Everytime he reaches a new stage, he has to face a much stronger opponent ..and the opponents just get stronger everytime . So, he is indeed weak. 

I totally agree! So, how is it being late at work? Did you get an occurrence or warning? Lol

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19 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

So very true @angelangie...

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There was a scene when he mentioned suicide because he feared he would never have her with him again. The fear , the desperation and choice of abandoning the home because without her he would never go back to their little shop.  

It broke my heart when that was mentioned.  I hope they show all that raw and intense moment of realization WHAT SANG SANG REALLY MEANT TO HIM. 

I hope we see this intense level of desperation at losing her in the drama.  Sorry not sorry but it is so satisfying seeing NQ fall apart in the novel after just a day without SS :naughty:

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5 minutes ago, thartie said:

I totally agree! So, how is it being late at work? Did you get an occurrence or warning? Lol

Well, I didnt get late, yaayy :kiss_closed: . I just got beaten by my own record. I'm usually the 1st one in my team to arrive at office, but today, I"m the 3rd /4th *LOL*

 

Besides, it doesnt mater if I got late anyway, since some people are usually late. They just got home late too, while I usually go home on time, hahaha

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7 minutes ago, thartie said:

People should see this before jumping into conclusion of him treating her badly to the point of beating her. Which by rhe way, not my word but from my point of view is not the appropriate word to use in describing the scene. Just my opinion. 

@thartie  I told everyone to wait to watch the whole episode with subs to understand what is happening. I  know he only did it because he was frustrated and he knew Sang Sang was right. She is always right and very smart. He is only acting that way because when talking to SS he becomes very flustered and is always saying the wrong thing. But wiht other people, he comes out intellectual, smart , cute and cool. But SS always finds faults in everything he says since the age of 4. LOL LOL LOL 

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Just now, rhaps said:

Well, I didnt get late, yaayy :kiss_closed: . I just got beaten by my own record. I usually the 1st one in my time to arrive at office, but today, I"m the 3rd /4th *LOL*

 

Besides, it doesnt mater if I got late anyway, since some people are usually late. They just got home late too, while I usually go home on time, hahaha

Good! Now I don't need to worry about you as I worried about NQ and SS. Hahahahaha

1 minute ago, UnniSarah said:

@thartie  I told everyone to wait to watch the whole episode with subs to understand what is happening. I  know he only did it because he was frustrated and he knew Sang Sang was right. She is always right and very smart. He is only acting that way because when talking to SS he becomes very flustered and is always saying the wrong thing. But wiht other people, he comes out intellectual, smart , cute and cool. But SS always finds faults in everything he says since the age of 4. LOL LOL LOL 

I know. That's why I did not dare lay any opinion on this show until I got a better understanding of what's going on. And also, this is the reason why we are here. To clarify those misunderstanding and put everyone's heart at ease. Lol lol. What a burden to carry. Hahahaha. Joke!

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Judging from the spoilers, the webnovel perfectly illustrates his mental growth/thought process & he realizes that SS isnt a child anymore. He sees her as an adult, his equal. That's why he chooses not to 'hit' her like he used when SS was a child. 

 

In the drama, NQ appears 'disciplining' SS, which gives the idea that he still sees SS whom he still has a familial/young master&handmaiden relationship w/ instead at this point, should go beyond that. This thwarts his 'character development,' an important aspect which needs to be shown onscreen so the viewers can see the change/progression in NQ's attitude/behavior towards SS.

 

Btw, this is a criticism of the direction, not NQ as a character. The webnovel reads well, so this idea of 'growth' needs to be translated well onscreen.

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1 hour ago, raziela said:

I also think it is inappropriate and disrespectful to treat her that way in front of her real parents and won't give them a good impression of him.  Sang Sang has already run away from him and the first time they meet NQ he is shouting, insulting her appearance and hitting her.  They must wonder how badly he treated her all these years!  By the way Sang Sang's parents seem like very nice people. I'm happy for her :)

 

yes it is very disrespectful and inappropriate for NingQue to do so....however i do not think he is aware....as to him....she is his with all the big cap and bold lettering....he doesnt leave that for argument for that......he doesnt care nor will he take note of what others think....

 

he doesnt care whether others thought he mistreated her when she was him....or abuse her like a master will to a servant ....infact she doesnt really care what her parent thought either.....

 

the dad i have nothing to say....but the mother seems to really care about the daughter she never have the chance to raise herself

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8 minutes ago, greenwatch08 said:

Judging from the spoilers, the webnovel perfectly illustrates his mental growth/thought process & he realizes that SS isnt a child anymore. He sees her as an adult, his equal. That's why he chooses not to 'hit' her like he used when SS was a child. 

 

In the drama, NQ appears 'disciplining' SS, which gives the idea that he still sees SS whom he still has a familial/young master&handmaiden relationship w/ instead at this point, should go beyond that. This thwarts his 'character development,' an important aspect which needs to be shown onscreen so the viewers can see the change/progression in NQ's attitude/behavior towards SS.

Exactly @greenwatch08  

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That is the thing. NQ doesn't care what other people will think. May it be her parents or the emperor himself. I don't think it's inappropriate and disrespectful either. Because as you can see, he was saying those because he wanted SS for himself. He was trying to discourage her into finding and husband by uttering those thing whereas, in reality, that is not what he really sees in her. And he doesn't want other people to look at her the way he does. Because she is his and his alone and when it comes to SS he becomes the most selfish person in the whole novel universe.

He doesn't care what other people think, but Sang Sang's opinion matters to him so much. His actions are always due to SS wanting him to not live in the darkness but live in the light. His darkness isn't evil but more of wanting him to be happy. That is all she ever want for him. To be happy, play, make friends and fulfill his dreams.

@angelangie  He really doesn't care but I wished he didn't do that either. But we should all wait to see what he does afterwards. He will impress you @raziela . He will do something shocking after his bad behavior. IT is all for Sang Sang...   lol lol giphy.gif

 

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15 minutes ago, raziela said:

I hope we see this intense level of desperation at losing her in the drama.  Sorry not sorry but it is so satisfying seeing NQ fall apart in the novel after just a day without SS :naughty:

I couldn't agree more! I was very satisfied that I repeatedly read it like 10x and still gets the same level of satisfaction! Hahahajha

2 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

Exactly @greenwatch08  

@thartie  said

That is the thing. NQ doesn't care what other people will think. May it be her parents or the emperor himself. I don't think it's inappropriate and disrespectful either. Because as you can see, he was saying those because he wanted SS for himself. He was trying to discourage her into finding and husband by uttering those thing whereas, in reality, that is not what he really sees in her. And he doesn't want other people to look at her the way he does. Because she is his and his alone and when it comes to SS he becomes the most selfish person in the whole novel universe.

He doesn't care what other people think, but Sang Sang's opinion matters to him so much. His actions are always due to SS wanting him to not live in the darkness but live in the light. His darkness isn't evil but more of wanting him to be happy. That is all she ever want for him. To be happy, play, make friends and fulfill his dreams.

Awwww, what would I do without you Unni! ;) You always elaborate my thought. Thank You! :)

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Ok, i saw the trailers for the upcoming episodes.  EP.44 is the fight between NQ and SS at her parents home.  EP.45 he meets the buddhist monk Daoshi with CPP.  EP.46 he bids goodbye to MSS.

I ll just post the EP.45 trailer as I already posted for the other two.

 

CR:uploader

There is a new bts uploaded.  It's between eldest brother Manman and the teacher Fuzi.

 

CR: uploader

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49 minutes ago, pad-hari said:

Ok, i saw the trailers for the upcoming episodes.  EP.44 is the fight between NQ and SS at her parents home.  EP.45 he meets the buddhist monk Daoshi with CPP.  EP.46 he bids goodbye to MSS.

I ll just post the EP.45 trailer as I already posted for the other two.

 

CR:uploader

There is a new bts uploaded.  It's between eldest brother Manman and the teacher Fuzi.

 

CR: uploader

Wow, it's earlier that I expected. I thought NQ/SS wouldnt meet until ep 49. The preview clips on tencent fooled me.

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9 minutes ago, greenwatch08 said:

Judging from the spoilers, the webnovel perfectly illustrates his mental growth/thought process & he realizes that SS isnt a child anymore. He sees her as an adult, his equal. That's why he chooses not to 'hit' her like he used when SS was a child. 

 

In the drama, NQ appears 'disciplining' SS, which gives the idea that he still sees SS whom he still has a familial/young master&handmaiden relationship w/ instead at this point, should go beyond that. This thwarts his 'character development,' an important aspect which needs to be shown onscreen so the viewers can see the change/progression in NQ's attitude/behavior towards SS.

 

Btw, this is a criticism of the direction, not NQ as a character. The webnovel reads well, so this idea of 'growth' needs to be translated well onscreen.

 

I agree...maybe the director wanted to show how angry, desperate, and not in control of his emotions NQ is after Sangsang left?  In the novel its all about the thoughts going through his mind so that's kind hard to convey on screen.  NQ was realizing that Sangsang has grown up and kind of wishes she isn't cause that means she can do things like get married and leave him.  Maybe the director felt considering the actor for NQ is so young he can't really show that yet through just his face and body expression so maybe make it more clear with his actions?

 

Also, isn't there a preview scene that looks like the rest of that argument where Sangsang is sitting down while NQ is kneeling in front of her holding her hand, which she then pulls away?  I really love the imagery of that where he is in a weaker more submissive position than her, probably for the first time in their lives.

 

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19 minutes ago, kiara_bleu said:

 

I agree...maybe the director wanted to show how angry, desperate, and not in control of his emotions NQ is after Sangsang left?  In the novel its all about the thoughts going through his mind so that's kind hard to convey on screen.  NQ was realizing that Sangsang has grown up and kind of wishes she isn't cause that means she can do things like get married and leave him.  Maybe the director felt considering the actor for NQ is so young he can't really show that yet through just his face and body expression so maybe make it more clear with his actions?

 

Also, isn't there a preview scene that looks like the rest of that argument where Sangsang is sitting down while NQ is kneeling in front of her holding her hand, which she then pulls away?  I really love the imagery of that where he is in a weaker more submissive position than her, probably for the first time in their lives.

 

I think showing NQ slightly raising his hand in an effort to 'disclipine' SS but decides pulling it back to his side would be a perfect execution.

 

This way, it would illustrate his disjointed/flowing thoughts & his newfound emotions towards SS, but also shows that NQ doesnt want to handle SS & the situation in this physical manner, but through conversation(like in the webnovel). 

 

Same, the idea of NQ being vulnerable + soft w/ SS makes me swoon.

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1 hour ago, thartie said:

Oh yeah. Never forget that he is so willing to burn their mansion down if if won't agree with what he wanted. Hahahha. NQ is very cool! Lol

 

lols burning ppl mansion is not cool lols....however he is frustrated and he doesnt care how unreasonable or beyond believe when he said that....

 

what the chinese always said 'Ba Dao' - 霸道 - overbearing....

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I think in the preview where NQ is saying his bye byes to MSS he doesn't look like he's regretting saying bye

Looks more like he feels sorry or bad for her. I mean the poor girl was going to go home and he dragged her all the way to Tang only to reject her :P

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1 hour ago, angelangie said:

 

lols burning ppl mansion is not cool lols....however he is frustrated and he doesnt care how unreasonable or beyond believe when he said that....

 

what the chinese always said 'Ba Dao' - 霸道 - overbearing....

@angelangie... He is overbearing, he is so protective of Sang Sang and with his mentality that “SHE IS HIS/MINE ” like he told LQ I episode 19 . His expression of seeing Sang Sang run to him is priceless and reveals how much he cares for her

 

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https://youtu.be/5c0KU01SBh8

 

In the link above its a SS VS MSS and who NQs true love is and who he actually cares about. It's so damn hilarious and literally the video editor put side by side the way NQ treats SS and cares about her so much VS MSS. Like everytime there's danger NQ would never ever think about leaving SS side he just jumps in to protect her whereas with MSS when they're in danger in the wilderness he's always the first to be running away and going go protect yourself HAHAHA. This video brings me so much joy and reassurance. I think we've been swamped with too much lovey dovey scenes between NQ and MSS that i forget how good NQ treated SS and cares for her haha. 

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