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[Drama 2017-2018] Prison Playbook (Wise Prison Life) 슬기로운 감빵생활

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On 1/21/2018 at 3:11 PM, triplem said:

Prison playbook is tvN’s 5th most successful drama of all time in terms of ratings 

 

It is actually the 4th one, not 5th.

 

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You can see it when comparing Reply 1994's ratings on Nielsen website with other portal websites(Naver, Daum, Wiki Korea), articles released etc. 

 

I have asked a guy on Subreddit Korean Variety who regularly updated weekly Korean TV viewership ratings there, and this is what he said:
"The Nielsen website had "inaccurate" numbers for regular cable on multiple occasions. It annoyed the heck out of me so I ignored the website's cable ratings for a long time. I don't remember exactly when they fixed it. Nowadays, everything on their website matches what they release to the portal websites, broadcasting companies, journalists, etc"

 

 

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@stroppyse me me me.... I will come back and read. Just trying to avoid the spoilers. I have reached the stressful episodes I think. I am at episode 11.

 

Just to let you know I can't even concentrate on any other drama so I have dropped the Mon/ Tue and Wed/ Thur including the weekend dramas. I am interested in the BTS so once I finish it will read all the bromance interaction. Because frankly,  there has to be a good time for guys to just catch up, laze around ( NOT) but not having to dress up in suits or do romantic stuff and just hang out.

 

Not to mention the characters have made me cry buckets and I don't even KNOW who the main lead was before this series. Btw I like Lieutenant Paeang. Since I last remember him as a murderer.

 

Who is jailbird again? Man when the boy came back for " dad " and brought the gifts I basically teared all the way through.

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2 hours ago, ck1Oz said:

Who is jailbird again? Man when the boy came back for " dad " and brought the gifts I basically teared all the way through.

 

Jailbird is the one they call "Beob-ja" in the drama. He was there with KJH at the beginning when they were in-processed, and then later they meet up again in the penitentiary. BJ basically knows how a prison is run and is a bit of a fanboy. Later on, he helps Jae Hyuk with his training in prison, though I guess all of the inmates who are buddies with Jae Hyuk kind of do that.

 

Btw, he's also the one who helps KJH with the election, and is a small time wheeler dealer, as per your question below. Though, he's not the prison drug supplier.

 

On 1/22/2018 at 1:06 AM, ck1Oz said:

The guy who asks the drug addicts to vote for JH.

 

 

The boy who came back to visit his "dad" Min Chul is nicknamed Jean Valjean, and the visit scene was very moving.

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Is anyone having drama withdrawal symptoms? Prison playbook is an amazing drama which makes me laugh at every episode and weep at certain episodes. Each character was beautifully developed although some of us were disappointed in looney's ending or the ending itself. I felt every character's ending and the end itself ended realistically. Once they are released from prison they either go back to their life before or turn over a new leaf. In the case of looney he was being played out and his will was not as strong thus "once a druggie always a druggie". Among the characters, I thought Jean Valjean will be back in prison but no he showed that he was having a  fresh start. I am so happy that he visited and welcomed Kim Min Chul. Also, glad to see jailbird working for Kim Je Hyuk. I guess the ending ended every character in such a way there could be possibilities if there is a season 2. 

 

I really hope someone subs videos of behind the scenes :)

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I am not going to watch any dramas for the time being.

 

Okay. I cannot help but tears flowing a few times throughout watching the final episode(including to realize that it is the finale, and I don't know if my feelings will be invested the same when re-watching). There are too many scenes/moments that I would like to mention, but I would highlight a few.

 

When Officer Paeng was at the school and the kids said that prison was for bad guys, then he said But everyone commits a bad act at least once.” The ability of this series to portray even the bad folks as human was so wonderful to see.

 

I like how Joon-Ho slowly becoming like Officer Paeng, even though he said he can't like Officer Paeng. Even the final scene of finale shows he acted like Officer Paeng, haha.

 

"Be moderate in criticizing people, you may become like them unconsciously"

 

As far drugs issue, I know many are frustrated by the ending of Han-Yang's character in the drama, but I personally satisfy with it, even though it is indeed bitter. This drama really succeed to open our eyes to have better understanding of those who take drugs, instead of judging them stereotypically. It also reminds us the hardship of those who struggling to quit, that it needs help and support from people around him/her.

 

It also reminds us the hardship of those who struggling to quit, that it needs help and support from people around him/her. It has been highlighted throughout the series that "It is really, really, really hard to quit drugs without support and treatment". Min-Chul even said in episode 15: "Drugs. That's the problem. It's not that easy to quit. Not at all".

 

I also like they show a bit more about Officer Na in the finale, and it is funny to see flashback of his character in school.

 

I love to see relationship growth between Jung-Woo and his brother, Joon-Ho with his colleagues(especially with Officer Paeng and Officer Song), and of course between our cell 2-6 inmates (Je-Hyuk, Min-Chul, Kaist, Gobaksa, Jung-Woo, Hanyang, Janbaljang, Dolmani). I like to see Beobja to be hired by Je-Hyuk in the end.

 

Argh. I have lost words to say at the moment. Going to watch BTS clips before saying goodbye(for now, before re-watching later) to this masterpiece. There are too much lessons from every single characters, their behaviors and character development throughout about 24 hours-long drama.

 

Finally, I would like to quote what Shin Won-Ho PD said: "If there is a message [in the drama] I want to say, it’s of ‘hope.’ This is a story of people in a place at the end of the world. Some of them dream of making a comeback, some of them fall even further as they continue to live. But I want to show that there can be hope in this situation.”

 

And yeah! This is now my most favorite K-Drama, replacing Signal. I really hope this drama will be crowned as best drama during 2018 Baeksang Award(at least be nominated), just like Signal did two years ago.

 

Hopefully all of us can be a better person in view of nurturing better society! :) 

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Something I meant to mention, this drama cracks a few inside jokes. For instance, at one point Min Chul mentions that in his youth, he had been compared to Park Bo Gum. The response was that in Min Chul's youth, PBG had not been born yet. ROFLOL.

 

So, the meta is that in Reply 1988 the actor playing MC plays Choi Moo Sung, the father of Choi Taek, PBG's character. And, at one point, the neighborhood women are wondering how someone who looks like CMS could be the father of someone who looks like Taek to which the woman who is sweet on CMS' character responds that CMS in his youth looked just like Taek did. :lol:

 

There are a few other jokey references like that, but this one was the one I remembered.

 

Speaking of Reply 1988 as well as the earlier episodes in this drama, the guy with the mole who KJH beat for woodworking chief was the little brother to Deok Sun and Bo Ra in Reply 1988. Since he became diagnosed with leukemia a little after the series ended and had to pull out of a drama, I was actually happy to see him in this drama.

 

 

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1 hour ago, stroppyse said:

Speaking of Reply 1988 as well as the earlier episodes in this drama, the guy with the mole who KJH beat for woodworking chief was the little brother to Deok Sun and Bo Ra in Reply 1988. Since he became diagnosed with leukemia a little after the series ended and had to pull out of a drama, I was actually happy to see him in this drama.

 

 

oh yeah... now i remember him. thanks for mentioning him. i hope he is better now. 

 

i watched the raw video last week with alot of skipping and fastforward here and there because im not ready for it to end, and because of that i do misunderstand some of the parts. and yesterday i watched it again with sub...  i feel sad that i have to let go this series now. thanks to everyone who share with me your views and translation, i hope to see you guys in other drama threads too...

 

ps: how do i put spoiler tag? new soompi is hard to use compared to the old one.. im more comfortable with soompi in 2010

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18 minutes ago, yoyo_icecube said:

ps: how do i put spoiler tag? new soompi is hard to use compared to the old one.. im more comfortable with soompi in 2010

 

In the post editor, on the editor ruler at the top, there is an icon that is shaped like an eye. That is the spoiler icon. Just click on that, and it will give you a spoiler box within the editor. You can type or paste what you want to put in the spoiler in there. If you have additional items to add to your post, you can just click the cursor outside of the spoiler box, and continue to type or add.

 

Hope this makes sense.

 

Also, I guess it's time to say goodbye to this thread and this drama. Kind of. I'll probably haunt it for a little while longer. I mean @ck1Oz hasn't finished and posted her thoughts yet, so there will be more posts here, I think. :)

 

I grabbed a couple of post drama things and posted them with translations, but if anyone comes across any additional BTS, go ahead and tag me, and I'll try to get them done.

 

We were a small, but passionate crowd. Thanks to everyone for making it so much fun. Major thanks to @triplem and @Jillia for convincing me to give this drama a try after all when I was being a bit balky about it. :) Hope to see everyone on other threads.

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Pigletcloud translated some snippets of Shin Won Ho PD and actor Lee Kyu Hyung

 

Will hide it for those who don't want spoilers :D

 

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The time has come for me to say goodbye to this drama! 

Overall, I loved this drama. It managed to make me care about all the inmates and correction officers, and it also tackled some life issues that felt relatable. It told many facets of life, and while there were some things I wasn't familiar with, I really loved it. This drama was realistic, especially about how inmates come and go. Sometimes they managed to bid proper farewell, sometimes they were just taken away like that. I really loved it. 

 

The characters' growth was also very satisfying. They made mistakes, they paid for them, they repented. And then some of them made the same mistakes, and was punished again for it. That's just how life is, and I love how it was portrayed very well in the drama. I wouldn't say too much about the relationships, I'm sure everyone agrees with me that relationships and bond between these characters were beyond beautiful. 

 

If I had to choose one thing that made me bitter, of course it was how Hanyang's story ended. I still can't believe that he ended up repeating the same mistake right after he was released. He was also disappointed of Jiwon and his father not picking him up, although he clearly told them that he'd meet them at that restaurant. I mean, even his mother came! On the other hand, I know some people who are like Hanyang, who easily fall into the same hole no matter how much they regret their mistakes. Hanyang was good person, and it was an irony that he lived that kind of life despite his perfect background (almost all the inmates envied him). Maybe it was the lack of love from his family (his mother in particular), maybe it was the insecurity (of his sexuality and his relationship with Jiwon. I always felt that Hanyang constantly worried that Jiwon would leave him and it made him anxious), but I felt sorry for him. 

 

Last but not least, I want to thank all of you here! It's been nice discussing matters with you although I'm always a week late! Let's meet on other drama threads! (But I think I'll always come back here, I'll miss this drama so bad!) :D

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3 minutes ago, mijooliet said:

If I had to choose one thing that made me bitter, of course it was how Hanyang's story ended. I still can't believe that he ended up repeating the same mistake right after he was released. He was also disappointed of Jiwon and his father not picking him up, although he clearly told them that he'd meet them at that restaurant. I mean, even his mother came! On the other hand, I know some people who are like Hanyang, who easily fall into the same hole no matter how much they regret their mistakes. Hanyang was good person, and it was an irony that he lived that kind of life despite his perfect background (almost all the inmates envied him). Maybe it was the lack of love from his family (his mother in particular), maybe it was the insecurity (of his sexuality and his relationship with Jiwon. I always felt that Hanyang constantly worried that Jiwon would leave him and it made him anxious), but I felt sorry for him. 

 

This is a good point. I've had a week to reflect on it now, and I'm slowly putting it into perspective.

 

It's a twisted bitter pill that a character that we came to care about so much seemingly self destructed by his own volition. Hae Rong went through so much to go cold turkey, and JW and his family ultimately were there for him, but because of some small error in judgment, namely asking JW and his family to meet him at the restaurant rather than have them meet him at the gate as they would have done, it opened the door for a temptation that ultimately he couldn't overcome.

 

It is realistic. I think all of us have known people who fall into the same traps time and time again, despite help and resolve, and it hurts us to see them try and struggle so much and then to lose it or to give up right before they achieve their goals, and some on just some silly reason. That it's realistic doesn't mean that it doesn't still hurt.

 

Ultimately, there is so much to love about this drama, and so much to hurt about as well. I guess that's kind of like a lot of real life as well, though.  I would totally recommend this drama to people, but tell them to skip the last few minutes of episode 15. As HY walks out, hopeful to his new life, knowing how it ends now, it would hurt too much to watch it again. Just because it's realistic doesn't mean that it doesn't still hurt.

 

I can't stop thinking about this drama. That means it's a good drama, but does it have to have so much pain associated with it? So many of the characters got a happy ending, or at least got something that they needed, whether it was Dr. Ko standing up to his ex-bosses, or Cpt. Yoo getting his retrial, or Jailbird getting a job with Jae Hyuk, or MC finally going home to the son of his soul Jean Valjean and his newly discovered daughter that the ones whose endings felt raw whether that's Kaist who donated a liver to his son and still couldn't even get a chance to see his son's face, or Dolmani disappearing into the prison system with a few signs of affection but no clues as to what happens to him, or Han Yang (whimper), I have to admit that they were all memorable characters with memorable stories.

 

And, then, of course, there is the bromance which was at the center of this drama: Jae Hyuk and Joon Ho who had started as elementary school classmates and staying together to become star baseball players together at the high school level on their way for tryouts before the severe car accident that changes their lives. They separate and live full lives, and only meet in prison, one as an inmate and one as a guard, and yet their friendship resumes as close as if they had not spent all those years separately. This also made me smile as well both in its coincidence as a dramatic device, but also because it's rooted in real life as well. Because, there are those childhood friends who grow apart, but there are also those friends that when you see them again, regardless of how long it may have been, you go right back to the close friendship that is just always there.

 

Have I mentioned how much I love this drama which is why it also hurts so much. :)

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3 hours ago, stroppyse said:

So many of the characters got a happy ending, or at least got something that they needed, whether it was Dr. Ko standing up to his ex-bosses, or Cpt. Yoo getting his retrial, or Jailbird getting a job with Jae Hyuk, or MC finally going home to the son of his soul Jean Valjean and his newly discovered daughter that the ones whose endings felt raw whether that's Kaist who donated a liver to his son and still couldn't even get a chance to see his son's face, or Dolmani disappearing into the prison system with a few signs of affection but no clues as to what happens to him, or Han Yang (whimper), I have to admit that they were all memorable characters with memorable stories.

 

Jailbird's happy ending is one of the most satisfying endings to be honest. He was with Jehyuk right from Day 1, and he continued to be faithful to him. Plus he got all the skills needed to be successful, he just didn't have the chance. Jehyuk gave him that chance, it made me feel so happy. As for Dolmani, I really want to know what happened to him too, but at this rate I just want to think that no news is good news. KAIST and Dr. Ko had probably settled in their new prisons (hope they didn't belong in the same cells with cruel, cunning inmates), while Hanyang found a new Jungwoo to mess around him and tried to quit drugs again (hopefully). 

 

I agree with you, this drama made me happy but it also hurt SO MUCH. 

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I’m not usually personally affected by dramas, but right after I finished this show, I had a hard time sleeping because I kept dreaming about Han Yang and his self destructive behavior. I want to watch it again, but I think I’m going to be heartbroken watching his scenes.

 

One observation: I started episode 1 again, and realized that the first scene at the baseball stadium is actually the last scene. KJH is practicing while throwing with his right hand. It makes more sense why he has such a serious expression when the coach gives him the ball.

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I was going to post earlier in the week but since I was so close to finishing it, I thought I'd might as well watch it all and then write up my thoughts afterwards. Many thanks to @stroppyse for translating preview clips and giving me hope that we'd get a decent and acceptable resolution.

 

This is undoubtedly, unequivocally one of the best K dramas I have ever seen. It was superb from start to finish never once losing sight of its focus, maintaining its momentum right to the bittersweet end. I don't know if I have ever watched a K drama that has such a finely tuned balance of drama and realism that fleshes out its characters in a heartwarming fashion. Through one man's journey we were treated to the journeys of many other men who were close to him in that one year and during which they managed to make living tolerable by forming deep and hopefully, long lasting friendships.

 

I don't have strong views about prisons one way or another. In an ideal world we wouldn't need them or have them but it isn't an ideal world. There's the dehumanizing aspect to incarceration that we balk at in civilized society but then there are no easy answers to how societies deal with criminals.

 

The genius of the drama lies in how this dehumanizing is mitigated and reversed in small but powerful ways. Little acts of kindness, according to the script, can become powerful tools for change. At the end of the day, the drama was about people... in all their simplicity and all their complexity.

 

I think the outcome that I wanted most from this narrative was for Capt Yoo Jung Woo to get his day in court. Of all the people incarcerated here, he was the one who least deserved to be there except for a terrible miscarriage of justice in the way of abuse of power and the lack of courage from his subordinates. Frankly I was glad that they didn't try to downplay the enormity of what happened to him by rationalizing the perjuring of the witnesses in his case. However terrified they were of Sgt Oh and his powerful father, they helped put an innocent man behind bars after all. Ironically they had the safety in numbers but they chose to succumb to fear and pressure.

 

Hanyang... sigh... Hanyang. Although Hanyang technically committed an offence, I don't think prison was the best place for him to rehabilitate. What he needed was a long-term support mechanism with accountability. His drug addiction is symptomatic of larger issues in his life that go all the way to his non-relationship with his mother. I'm no expert but when I look at him and the way he interacts with the others, he reminds me of my kids at different stages of their lives. To me he is a perpetual child who has never grown up. He's emotionally stunted despite apparently being very affectionate. He baits the others to get attention, he absolutely has no filter and no personal boundaries whatsoever. Despite that, I really like him. He's such an intelligent, insightful person even through his drug and cold turkey haze. Often shrewdly perceptive. His antics make me laugh and yet I conclude that he's never grown up. Left to his own devices, he falls apart which was sadly consistent and realistic. It fits right in with his personality. Still I shouldn't downplay the seriousness of his drug addiction. I could say more but I won't because it is a tragic situation.

 

The romances were nicely and sweetly done. I didn't mind the push-pull between JHyeok and Ji Ho because their relationship was a fairly accurate reflection of where they were at as individuals at the time. The implication I think is that prison with all its awfulness, forced JHyeok to face certain things about himself in order to be more honest with the woman he loved. It seemed to be a family trait... brother and sister going through hard times stoically on their own and isolating themselves from their partners. JHee and JHo were a delightful pair. I love that there's no push-pull here... just a couple of adults who are a good match, who really like each other, talking and doing things together.

 

Ultimately the thing I liked most about this series is the multidimensional, somewhat dispassionate way in which the show presents its protagonists. Sure, the inmates often judge each other and comment on each other in the early days but once they rub shoulders and learn about each other, they bond and create some kind of home away from home. The protective correction officers are great too... having different personalities and bringing their own brand of humanity to table and making life just that bit easier for the inmates. JHo had his own journey too,  gradually finding his niche in the prison system when he'd been hopping from one thing to the next for much of his adult life. Even the warden turned out to be much more than I expected. An attention monger no doubt... but cunning in his own fashion. :wink:

 

I can't not mention the wonderful dynamic between JHo and JHyeok of course. I loved that JHo's status as "The Fan" became a consistent running gag evolving over time but more than that this was a friendship that had stood the test of time. Even if he weren't "The Fan", he proved himself absolutely as "The Friend". But who am I kidding, I adored all of JHyeok's prison buddies. Jailbird, Crony, Min Chul, Jung Woo, Dr Ko, Hanyang and Kaist. They all had different sorts of dynamic with him and even because of him, made separate connections with each other. This was for me the most heartwarming aspect of the entire series. Who would have thought... a baseball pitcher would be a kind of Pollyanna playing a kind of glad game in his prison cell. :wink:

 

I really wanted to know what happened to Dr Ko and Kaist after they were transferred but such is life I imagine. People come and go all the time. There's probably a moral in that. One never knows how much time one has with others, so make the best use of the time that is available.

 

At the end of the day I should thank JKH for taking on this drama even if he often plays second fiddle to other actors here. Because without him, I would never have discovered this gem of a drama.

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35 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

At the end of the day I should thank JKH for taking on this drama even if he often plays second fiddle to other actors here. Because without him, I would never have discovered this gem of a drama.

 

I loved your whole writeup as insightful as your posts always are, but this is a thought that I had been thinking as well but I don't think I ever verbalized. So, thanks for pointing this out!

 

JKH was a big factor for me to ultimately watch this drama, even as I would guess it may have been for other fans. Prison is such a grim topic, that despite PD Shin Won Ho's track record with the Reply series, it made me reticent to give this drama try, and actually, I didn't start watching it until the middle of its run, and having to marathon watch to catch up once I realized that I did want to watch it after all.

 

However, JKH is known as not only being an excellent actor, but choosing his projects thoughtfully, so that I was more willing to try it. Especially finding out that JKH wasn't even the lead when he has been a leading man in so many projects already made me wonder what it was about this drama that he agreed to take part.

 

Ultimately, I love the role that he played, and in fact, I was glad that he didn't play the lead role with his stoicism. Rather, JKH was able to bring to life a whole host of other emotions and situations, and providing a bridge between the prison life and the outside world even while going through a growth arc and a romance arc of his own.

 

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I finished it. But had go fast forward ep 15 and 16 as I was dying. So going back to rewatch. 

 

Now that I know the ending can go read the spoilers. There is no way I can condense my thoughts. This drama on a 2 week binge watch has wrung my emotions and tumbled it all about. 

 

For a well written and taut drama like Forest of Secrets to the reality based drama in one year? I mean, wow, what have I been watching previously?  I just sat back and marvelled at the acting. 

 

The stories were touching. And I admitted to crying so much it was ridiculous. I laughed. I laughed a lot and there are too many good moments to remember.

 

But life sucks or real life sucks and I appreciated that they didn't sugarcoat how some people are just scum. There is no redemption.  Sorry if I seem harsh. HY's ending was especially sad as I was hoping it would be a Kdrama ending for him.

I mean I meet more substance abuse addicts than recovered addicts. So maybe subconsciously I was hoping he would end up being stronger. How the heck did the guy end up being there? I know addicts find their supplies fast and yes immediately on release, but still it was harsh. I never even imagined when I was growing up that one day I would be able to ask a person how many points of cocaine last used. Or to be aware of all the street drugs and names etc. My mother would have killed me.

 

I guess if the show did make me do one thing is consider that some people met unfortunate circumstances. And there are people who just have the world's worst luck. That somewhere out there there is someone who will not be a repeat offender. I feel dirty or rather sometimes my flesh crawls when I meet those real life criminals. I am a female and come on, it makes your flesh crawl when a male prisoner or an arrested man eyes you a certain way. And when people make personal threats. That's why I understood Lt Paeng. And why when I am outside work I don't even swear. But I take being called the C word, or racist comments. Or about my intelligence or weight or looks. Or be screamed or spat at and still continue working. I try my best to avoid being attacked. Usually.  One of my colleagues ( one of those ppl with the world's worst luck) she has the world's worst luck and timing. Honest to god. 

 

This was one of my main reasons I was avoiding this drama. It prettified the prisoners a lot. I am more used to the thugs and scum bags. And gamblers and irresponsible people who end up there. Than all the nice, caring, human corrections officers and prisoners.

 

Very good drama. Deserves every praise. And I still don't know who the actor playing JH is. But thankfully there are not many pages here so easy to backtrack.

 

JH is a very strong character. Not many people in real life will be that caring and humane. The actor was so convincing.  I am so happy they didn't choose. conventional handsome actor. He fills the uniform and the baseball outfit like he was made for it.

 

It has also been really interesting watching the relationship hierarchy amongst the guys. So Korean and yet so believable how their culture dictates it so naturally. Beats the  weekend dramas doing it. So subtle but its as if once one is categorised one has to play the role. Or not with all the banmal being the insulting form of rebellion.

 

Like I said wrung out. So my views may not be PC. I actually think this drama is better than the 3  Reply series actually. In terms of human interaction and ties. Amazing cast and acting. The director really can bring out the best in everyone isn't it? 

 

But man my emotions are all over the place. Maybe I will be more polite and ne less cynical in the future. Not going to last though. If I see another neglected child with addicted parents or one more drunk. Or one more scumbag I won't remember this show.

 

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Does anybody here know the title of the song they used a couple of times in some episodes? One instance it was used was Episode 16 around 16:00 mark to 17:18. They also often used it as background for Hanyang's flashback. Can anyone help me? I've been searching for the song for days now. It's not even listed as part of the OST. Anyone? @ck1Oz, @triplem, @stroppyse. Sorry for tagging. Please help. :(

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5 hours ago, ck1Oz said:

Like I said wrung out. So my views may not be PC. I actually think this drama is better than the 3  Reply series actually. In terms of human interaction and ties. Amazing cast and acting. The director really can bring out the best in everyone isn't it? 

 

In a lot of ways, I agree with you. Without two of the main drivers in the Reply series (coming of age and romance), it focuses strongly on the third aspect of the Reply series, that is the human interactions and relationships. In a strange kind of way, the physical limitations imposed on the characters in terms of the prison acted to magnify their interactions, allowing us to see the small interplays as well as the big gestures. The characters literally couldn't get away from each other, and thus had to deal with each other, come hell or high water.  And, in that way, it heightened the highs and really wrung out the lows.

 

5 hours ago, ck1Oz said:

But man my emotions are all over the place. Maybe I will be more polite and ne less cynical in the future. Not going to last though. If I see another neglected child with addicted parents or one more drunk. Or one more scumbag I won't remember this show.

 

I think seeing abuse, neglect, and other negative qualities that humans can be, it's hard not to become jaded and cynical, no matter how much we might tell ourselves not to presume and to try to treat people regardless of how we find them with some measure of respect. And, there are certain conditions that I don't think should be tolerated at all, including the abuse of children and animals. Neither children nor animals are really capable of protecting themselves from the adults who may abuse, neglect, and/or prey on them. So, if you see a neglected child with an addict parent or a drunk scumbag, and don't remember to treat them with kid gloves, I think that's entirely understandable. :)

 

 

@juleeekkkzzz, I took a look at episode 16 at 16:00 and there was a carnivalesque background music playing, but it only lasted a few seconds during a fight scene, and then no bgm at all. You had mentioned that it was playing from 16:00 to 17:48, so I'm not sure that bit was it. Also, I'm not sure that I can identify the song for you anyway since bgm isn't my forte. Sorry.

 

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