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[Drama 2018] Mr. Sunshine, 미스터 션샤인 - Winner of Critics’ Choice Award for Drama category

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9 minutes ago, aurelionsol said:

 

 

So she should kill Takashi Mori to ensure Eugene's security. She did nothing and she assumed that nothing would happen for half a year? I'm surprised that Mori did not get rid of his old friend. Eugene did not kill him, though he probably had lots of opportunities. The plot started to be strange in episode 20 - it looks poor because it does not make sense :)

Takashi Mori is madman/villain and kill cadet from Royal Military Academy, japanese major and two innocent soldiers, he kill Hongpa without hesitation and hanged her on the bridge for public view.

 

Kill Takashi so that Japan has excuses to bring in more troops to Joseon? 

Eugene couldn't kill him easily, he's affiliated to US marine troop. It's not as easy as that. 

Not even Takashi dares to kill Eugene, because US would have excuse to atk Japan. 
 

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Even a sad scene of Eushin like this can be made in a beautiful and romantic music video clip. Love the song.

 

Credit: @CaptTamagochi 

 

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1 hour ago, kansas424 said:

 

Kill Takashi so that Japan has excuses to bring in more troops to Joseon? 

Eugene couldn't kill him easily, he's affiliated to US marine troop. It's not as easy as that. 

Not even Takashi dares to kill Eugene, because US would have excuse to atk Japan. 
 

 

Time is running out and I have the feeling that Im beginning to watch the Chinese drama with many holes in the story - there is also lack of realism and logic. Let the plot flies with the forced script and suicide mission to Japan.

 

time to change the subject :)

 

Anyway, I'll see what they came up with in the last episodes. Im beginning to fear the end of the series.

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Source: Mr. Sunshine Netflix

 

Your Honour, we #Sunshiners would like to file a complaint against last week’s #MrSunshine for messing with our feels. Here is the proof.

 

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Hi Soompiers.  Here are more of my thoughts on Ep. 20 and the overall progression of Mr. Sunshine.  Btw, can you believe we have only 4 more episodes left before the end?!! :bawling:

 

Standard disclaimer:

1. Apologies in advance for the long post AND multiple quotes. 

2. Please let me know if I've missed any significant plot point and/or characterization.

 

2 hours ago, mistergenie said:

IMO, you know what E20 really needed and ultimately lacked?  A montage from AS's POV. Yes, a montage of scenes from AS's POV when she disappeared for 6 months. The show stumbled here, IMHO -  they should have shown how she was coping, what she was doing, maybe a glimpse into her inner thoughts about her relationship with Eugene, maybe her inner struggle to forget him and move on, maybe even a reaction when she learned from the baker that Eugene was asking about her. Instead we got nothing and we were suddenly hit with her 'let's break up and go our separate ways' when she met with Eugene.

 

Hi @mistergenie.  Thank you for pointing out something that has made me rather wary about AS' overall character growth/trajectory so far, especially regarding her future.

 

For the most part, I'm more than fine with the actions she has taken toward defending her people (i.e., EC) and her cause (i.e., Joseon independence), especially given that WI, Takeshi Mori, and others involved in the Japanese rule dared threaten the lives of her, EC, her family (including the deceased Lord Go/AS' grandfather), and her other loved ones in rapid successions (Japanese soldiers besieging the Go household after finding out AS' attendance at the English school, WI's plans of tearing down the Go household to make way for train construction, WI's order of shooting down Lord Go's funeral procession, etc.).  Now that the Japanese colonization of Joseon Korea has more-or-less commenced (unless I'm mistaken, I read in the Ep. 20 recap that the drama is now taking place in 1904 in which Korea technically became Japan's colony, but it's not until 1910 that Japan officially annexed Korea),  I can understand AS' turmoil in having to strategically plan her fight for Joseon independence (while potentially leaving behind her family and even EC) in a rather limited given time that she could barely contemplate all other options of her future, particularly with EC.  

 

However, as you mentioned above, I really wished (and am still wishing for the 4 remaining episodes) that KES would show scenes of AS' POV of all this predicament during those 6 months, just like she did with EC's scenes.  It would give both EC and us viewers some understanding on why AS would suddenly postulate about either going with EC to the U.S.,  parting ways, or even using him for her own cause/fight.  In my last post, I mentioned that their strength as the OTP was that they communicated to each other their background, passions, and lot in life without much delay, and that their exchanges helped them reconsider their own past values, misgivings (i.e., AS' initial naive, romanticized cause for Joseon independence and EC's initial reluctance to train King Gojong's army(?) or the RA due to his U.S. alliance and past trauma as a former Joseon slave), and future prospects in and/or outside Joseon.  Without such communication and connection, AS and EC will end up misunderstanding and distrusting each other and even start doubting their own willpower in making a difference in their future.

 

I'll say more on this in my response to @tzupi's quoted post below.

 

18 hours ago, tzupi said:

It would have been very disappointing if AS had such a discussion with Eugene. AS and Eugene have reached a level of intimacy where this kind of discussion is not necessary. Did he not say to her that he will follow her? What would be the purpose of a discussion about Eugene's feelings for Joseon? Half of the show was already focused on this aspect, and I think it was made clear that he reached kind of a peace with Joseon: he is reluctantly helping them. and he agrees to get more and more involved if it is about the safety of AS and the potter. and this was even before the things turned so wrong as in the last episodes.

 

Yesterday many people accused Lord Go of being cruel because he showed the right path to Eugene: kill the Japanese colonel. The old man entrusted him with a dangerous mission: for a father that lost two sons in the fight for freedom, what he begs Eugene to do was not cruel. Is a doctor who cause you suffering, while trying to make you healthy cruel? 

 

Now you are thinking that it is not only cruel but also futile. Futile how? The colonel is a danger for so many, he is unnecessarily cruel...and that's when the term 'cruel' is used correctly. Why is it futile to get rid of a war criminal?

 

As @ces8 rightly remarked it is difficult to understand what it means to be in a revolution. In my view, in the last episodes, Eugene got further and further away from AS. If he does not get more involved, his chances of ending up with AS will become smaller and smaller. He will become a futile character because the real fight has started and he is not in the middle of it.

 

So instead of being unhappy about the fact he has dangerous things to do, we should be happy when he gets something to do.

 

People who want a strong female character should also rejoice. It is good that AS did not lose track of her priorities.

 

Hi @tzupi.  I respect your detailed insight regarding AS and EC's dynamic and character trajectory, and I, like any other Soompier here, want AS to continue asserting herself as a strong female character who does not constantly need help/discussion from her hero and/or resort to being a plot device for the hero's own character growth/trajectory.

 

However, in this period where the Japanese feed on the insecurities of the Joseon people including the emperor/king, no one can truly trust even their own loved ones or comrades lest he/she risks betrayal from said loved ones/comrades.   Judging by the end of Ep. 20 and the Ep. 21 preview, AS and EC looked rather resentful and distrustful towards each other and exchanged some pretty harsh words.  If I'm not mistaken, AS approached EC and supposedly implored about going with him to the U.S. when she was actually using him to travel to Japan, and EC accused AS of lying to him for the past 6 months and being cruel in trying to drag him in her fight for Joseon independence.  AS and EC may have had the intimacy in which they may not need to discuss any more about their own stances in previous episodes, but, right now, that scenario that I just mentioned appeared as though AS and EC are starting to lose touch with that level of intimacy- or trust, more likely.  At this point, AS and EC do need to discuss whatever's being going on with them over the past 6 months and now.

 

Given everything they went through these past episodes, AS and EC cannot afford to lose their trust and communication they've established throughout this drama, especially if they're actually going to fight together for whatever cause or future (Joseon independence, their flight to China or the U.S., etc.).  Sure, given the ultimate tragic outcome of this historical period, it does look less likely that AS and EC will have a happy ending/future together (or individually, for that matter).  Nevertheless, while they still are around each other, they have the chance to convey, listen to, and/or acknowledge the other's perspective regarding their overall stance and future in or outside Joseon before the Japanese takes over and they have no choice but to separate for good (that is, if they choose not to leave together).  While I admire AS for affirming her own decisions and actions and not backing down due to the ongoing turmoil or Joseon traditions, I would like for AS to realize that she cannot shoulder this fight on her own, and she still has EC (and other loved ones) who vows that he will do anything to defend her as long as she communicates without pretense what she wants. 

 

Btw, I meant to say "foolish" and not "futile" regarding Lord Go's/AS' grandfather's request; for while it's not impossible for EC to kill Takeshi Mori (as we saw EC and Gunner Jang Seung-gu supposedly do in Ep. 20), it is foolish for Lord Go/AS' grandfather to assume that removing Mori (or even WI) would ensure AS' (and her family's) safety.  There will be more WI's and Mori's who will stop at nothing to hunt down and eradicate the RA, anyone else who declares opposition to the Japanese rule, and anybody related to the former two regardless of their positions/thoughts, and there's no way that AS would ever consider hiding her allegiance to the Joseon independence fight if push comes to shove.  After all, AS did declare to her family members (and Haman, who I'm relieved did survive:blush:) that she will remain in Joseon and resolve some "unfinished business" rather than escape with them to Manchuria.

 

 

2 hours ago, aurelionsol said:

 

Yes, the writers have spoiling this thread - her two disappearances and strange sentences. 

Her transformation is so idiotic and childish that I try to look for meaningful solutions without material (life in the forest, thoughts, doubts, problems) which has been cut out. She began to behave oddly after escaping and hiding in the forest. 

 

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@kansas424

ok, it has some sense but instead of hiding it, she should reveal the truth to him. He could have died this year - murder/assasination. They both dislike each other after what happened

 

Hi @aurelionsol.  It's been a long time since we discussed on this thread.

 

We have 4 episodes left for KES to fully showcase AS' character growth/trajectory from an "impulsive, romantic, naive Joseon noblewoman masquerading as a Joseon independence fighter at night but not really knowing about the general affairs of Joseon people" to an "independent fighter for her own destiny/future who contemplates the long-term consequences of her actions, decisions, and other affairs in Joseon".  Until then, let's give both KES and AS a benefit of a doubt regarding AS' rash actions as a Joseon independence fighter during these recent episodes; for she (and her family and loved ones) did put up with nonstop series of senseless, brutal take-down attempts from WI and/or Mori (ransacking the Go household, the shooting at the funeral procession, etc.) that she could not stop and clearly think through her decisions/actions and the Joseon affairs, especially now that Japan is proceeding further with assuming control over Joseon Korea.

 

That being said, I agree with you that AS needs to tell EC the truth (and vice versa), as well as everything that's being going on with her since.  Otherwise, she will lose EC not just as her lover but, more importantly, also as someone whom she can trust in a time period when no one can truly trust their own kind or even themselves.

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I didn't have enough time to think about last week's episode yet, but love to read all your thoughts here!

 

I found this from instagram post from fan, who asked LBH about the ending

 

"he couldn't say about ending but he said, compared to previous 20 episodes, remaining 4 episodes will be more exciting!"

 

So, don't cry and hold your breath for the next episode! ( 6 days to go? ) 

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KES proves why she is one of the greatest drama writers of our time...

Although she has endured unkind words both written and said by others because of Mr Sunshine.  Still her story and even this latest view shows the pictures and characters that were in her mind and in her heart as well.  I admire that she always stays true to herself and her work....

 

She continues to show so many examples although a piece of fiction.  Still there is no denying the flow of emotions and feelings that she wanted us to understand and feel or the struggles and pain that she captured so well that makes one feel as if it is real...

 

I haven't even finished this episode because this one view honestly hurt my heart.

  How does one describe or show a conflict & war or the suffering & pain that it brings.

How does one make it understandable & relatable to all those who will see.

Maybe by simply showing it through a mans love for his wife. 

A strong and courageous man who is seen broken, crying and singing softly and tenderly to a wife who can no longer hear him or see his face.

With tears flowing and his strong arms wrapped around her and still I am stuck in the view of her hanging with that lingering sound of him saying...

Let her down...  She's my wife...

 

 

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@KDramaLogic

 

Hi, 

it's more about my thoughts that complete your interesting post.

 

I have a logical and pragmatic problem with AeShin and her actions over the last 8-6 months. We need her experiences and flashbacks and Eugene too. She now feel lost/torn between feelings for her homeland (falling country, lost home and crushed family, hostile attitude toward invader - Japan) or love for Eugene? Ok,  let it be that way. She is 30 years old woman and I cant treat her like a teenager. She has to deal with her problems, feelings and finally make a mature choice in final episodes. He said he would follow her, wherever she go but there must come a moment when she should do the same for him.  I've already talked about setting a line that I expect from her (fighter/love). She should finally go to the U.S. keeping her promise to Eugene and become more sensitive for his needs - he wants to keep her alive and be happy at last.

He was also felt lost/torn between duty as a soldier and citizen of the US and he choose love for Aeshin and support for Joseon. He risked live, position and what he get in the US despite the lack of full acceptance. It seems that he will continue to do so in Japan. 

 

He is angry now and has doubts about her intentions (he has the right now which is understandable and maybe he will see during the trip that she has an internal problem and try resolve things, maybe she will try to fix something but I dont believe too much in it because she's stubborn and seems a bit insensitive to Eugene's needs when she disappeared for 8 months) but he still wants to help her, which is a great act of sacrifice/devoting. Now his time is slowly coming to an end,  he has to leave Joseon - deployment order. Should he be a deserter and run with gun in the forest as RA member? It seems to me that he devoted a lot of things and spent enough time in Joseon.

 

I agree, they both need seriusly to talk and find a compromise and show support and trust - I'm still on Eugene's side and he deserves more from her in future (fulfill her promise and pay off debt). Relationships are based on conversations, acceptances and compromises. Aeshin looks much worse in this field at the moment, unlike Eugene. They both have experienced a lot and she is not the only one who lost something. She should start moving forward, leave some things behind her and devoted something for Eugene (her old actions began to blur at her own request/wish). He will take her to Japan, help her and receive nothing in return? I think she will be in a place and time from which there is no return for her. I hope that she consciously expected it and she knew it when she came to his room (this change a bit my opinion about her if this is truth, she is more mature and knew that she has crossed a line and needs to fix it).  The price she will pay for his help and support. Leaving Joseon behind her. She will decide to stay by his side and perhaps she will come back when country will regain peace again (he will probably die of old age, but she is much younger). 

Yes, Without such communication and connection, AS and EC will end up misunderstanding and distrusting each other and even start doubting their own willpower in making a difference in their future.

 

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Dong Mae, pull yourself together.

Dont disappoint me.

Someone has to wipe that sadistic and selfpleased 

smile from the face of TM.

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9 hours ago, rocher22 said:

The scenes between Dong Mae and EC, and their conversations 

are always very calming.

They went through those reports calmly, and they found what 

they were looking for.

I liked that little smile on ECs face when DM came to meet him

infront of the post office.

 

I love how their grudging friendship has developed. I know it's an unpopular opinion here, but Dong-Mae's probably my favorite character. He's written with some complexity and realism. Actually, all three of Ae-Shin's men are really interesting to me: Hui-Seung, which has already chosen between his family's past and his own future, Eugene, who will soon have to decide between his two homelands; and Dong-Mae, who chose to be Japanese in the past, but seems to have chosen to be Korean again when he "came home", and now has to make another choice about his identity. They've all run way, ad they've all come back, and they've all had to struggle with their identities. Hui-Seung represents the change in the established old order, and Dong-Mae and Eugene represent the rising up of the lower classes in different ways. They're more interesting to me than Ae-Shin, who has always seemed just a smidge too perfect.

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Next week's episode preview

 

(On street of Japan, at night) Eugene shoots a handgun, holding hands with Aeshin, they seem be running away from close chasers.

Eugene: how far are you planning to go, using me?

(In train) Aeshin looking away sadly.

(On street of Japan, at night, during festival) Takashi is holding a baby with some young woman, looking at festival with smile.

Next scene shows that Eugene with black guise, under mask. seems to be on roof.

Next scene shows Aeshin in a room in black disguise, saying

Aeshin: I said If I see you ever again, I will kill you.

We can see Dongmae at gun-point.

 

(On backstreet, at night, still in Japan) Aeshin sees someone with umbrella coming to her. The man  has his shirt sleeves folded up. Aeshin seems to carry a rifle.

Not sure next scene is connected, but Aeshin seems surprised.

(fighting scene in the bar) Group of men are attacking someone. Not sure who is being attacked but, I think that hairline is Eugene??? Aeshin is hiding behind someone/something in black.

Takashi talking to Eugene: A young woman who was a noble may get hurt, again.

Eugene looking, angry.

 

(Dongmae and Hina walk on the beach)

Dongmae: Villains are supposed to die early.

(scene changed, inside the Dongmae's room. Dongmae shouting, with tears, trying to cut Hotaru? Hotaru's hurt in the face, showing something to Dongmae)

(short scene with Aeshin takes aim at someone)

Dongmae: So that good people will live longer.

 

(scene changed to show Dongmae's boss in the big room. LJM sit in front, seems that LJM is trying to kill himself by biting his tongue, gangs trying to prevent that.)

(scene changed to show gangs spilling out from the building with swords out)

(Huisung looking at something gravely)

(Hina thinking something)

Huisung: While being sad, (?) cheered for my life.

 

(Japanese military are attacking from all sides, Korean military school students and killing them, some students trying to escape, and our 3 younglings trying to get to weapon storage)

Eugene: Courage leads the history. so become a lion.

Next scene shows that Eugene in black disguise, with rifle, walking in backstreet of Japan.

 

(In train compartment, Eugene and Aeshin holding hand. Seems that Aeshin is doing something to Eugene's left hand. maybe....a ring?)

Aeshin(with a single tear running): When Joseon is at peace, I'll come.

Eugene looking at her(?) with sad/determined face.

Aeshin in navy coat, red hat, running on street.

 

* Edited to add, I was assuming any japanese looking street is in japan, but on 2nd thought, it could be Japanese town in Joseon. Esp. with Takashi. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 9/10/2018 at 7:12 PM, USAFarmgirl said:

 

 

KES proves why she is one of the greatest drama writers of our time...

Although she has endured unkind words both written and said by others because of Mr Sunshine.  Still her story and even this latest view shows the pictures and characters that were in her mind and in her heart as well.  I admire that she always stays true to herself and her work....

 

She continues to show so many examples although a piece of fiction.  Still there is no denying the flow of emotions and feelings that she wanted us to understand and feel or the struggles and pain that she captured so well that makes one feel as if it is real...

 

I haven't even finished this episode because this one view honestly hurt my heart.

  How does one describe or show a conflict & war or the suffering & pain that it brings.

How does one make it understandable & relatable to all those who will see.

Maybe by simply showing it through a mans love for his wife. 

A strong and courageous man who is seen broken, crying and singing softly and tenderly to a wife who can no longer hear him or see his face.

With tears flowing and his strong arms wrapped around her and still I am stuck in the view of her hanging with that lingering sound of him saying...

Let her down...  She's my wife...

 

 

 

Many times, AeShin was quoted saying " i dont regret every decision that i had made" 

I feel like KES is using AS to reaffirm her stance in every decision she has made in the production and casting of Mr Sunshine.

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@mistymorning  Thanks for the detailed description of the promo.

 

Next scene shows Aeshin in a room in black disguise, Dong Mae at gunpoint

(short scene with Aeshin takes aim at someone)

Could Dong MAe also be in Japan and AS runs into him there during the course of her mission - the rifle pointed at Dong Mae and the one AS is pointing on the roof have the same colored cloth wrapped around them. Also, AS dark clothes look awfully same in both the scenes.

 

Group of men are attacking someone. Not sure who is being attacked but, I think that hairline is Eugene??? Aeshin is hiding behind someone/something in black.

Ah! I thought they were attacking Ae Shin only. I could see AE Shin hiding behind someone in black but I could not, for the life of me, see or understand who it was.

 

(scene changed to show gangs spilling out from the building with swords out)

Could very well be immediately after Ae Shin snipes someone. Maybe the yakuza boss who kidnapped LJM? That building could be a geisha place - there's a very quick glimpse of some women behind the men spilling out of the building.

 

Eugene shoots a handgun, holding hands with Aeshin, they seem be running away from close chasers.

Aeshin in navy coat, red hat, running on street.

She is wearing the same clothes in both of the above scenes. I wonder why she is alone in the latter one. She also seems to have a small bag in her hand. Where is Eugene at this point?

 

Aeshin(with a single tear running): When Joseon is at peace, I'll come.

Welp!! Seems like going to America is never going to happen for Ae Shin. After E20, I have braced myself fully for that.

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17 hours ago, mistymorning said:

Next week's episode preview

 

(In train compartment, Eugene and Aeshin holding hand. Seems that Aeshin is doing something to Eugene's left hand. maybe....a ring?)

Aeshin(with a single tear running): When Joseon is at peace, I'll come.

Eugene looking at her(?) with sad/determined face.

Aeshin in navy coat, red hat, running on street.

 

Aeshin's only opportunity to go to Japan is marriage.

Yes, they will get married (rings) for Aeshin's security. Probably after talking in a room in last episode, he'll go out and buy two rings, and it will annoy Mori when he sees her in the hotel "a woman who once was an noble will get hurt again". Mori cant touch her since she is the wife of an American citizen/soldier. 

 

Aeshin running but it is train station in Japan? 

Eugene probably killed Takashi Mori in Japan and all foreigners in the area are at risk as potential assasins (especially Aeshin as a Korean woman). She will probably be stopped by few Japanese soldiers but Eugene will appear in American uniform and take his wife to the train - protection.

 

Edit:

 

She running because she is chased by Musin Society members (i saw again preview)

Eugene appear anyway because she is his wife (he is a loyal knight)

 

my try to predict this few scenes in next episodes :)

 

 

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11 hours ago, rubie said:

Source: Mr. Sunshine Netflix

 

Your Honour, we #Sunshiners would like to file a complaint against last week’s #MrSunshine for messing with our feels. Here is the proof.

 

 

Are we filing a class action suit? If yes, please add my name! Also I need the show's mailing address so I send my tissues receipt and pharmacy bill. This show is my treat after a long week of work (I so look forward to it!), but it's turned my stomach upside down for the past two weekends...

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Hello All, I've been a silent lurker here but truly enjoy reading everyone's responses/discussions and news articles about Mr. Sunshine! :thumbsup:

 

There are 4 more episodes left and things are just getting intense. MS fighting!! :glasses:

 

22 hours ago, burningpotato said:

Did anyone else notice that the paper Kyle handed Eugene said "State of Washington" on it? What? Why? What would Washington state have to do with a Marine officer's transfer orders? Oh, did they confuse the state of Washington with Washington, D.C.? Loads of weird little (and big) inaccuracies regarding the US in this thing, but that one... I mean... why?

 

I just want to add to @burningpotato's question.

 

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The order not only shows State of Washington, but they also listed the wrong president. FDR didn't serve as President until 1933 (he was the Governor of New York in 1904), and Theodore R. was still in office as President in 1904. I don't know why the facts are changed, but it's been fun pointing them out...hehe.

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3 hours ago, SeReNiTy said:

Hello All, I've been a silent lurker here but truly enjoy reading everyone's responses/discussions and news articles about Mr. Sunshine! :thumbsup:

 

There are 4 more episodes left and things are just getting intense. MS fighting!! :glasses:

 

 

I just want to add to @burningpotato's question.

 

 

The order not only shows State of Washington, but they also listed the wrong president. FDR didn't serve as President until 1933 (he was the Governor of New York in 1904), and Theodore R. was still in office as President in 1904. I don't know why the facts are changed, but it's been fun pointing them out...hehe.

 

I didn't even notice that! (I never got past "State of Washington".) Yes, a Roosevelt was president then, but it was the other Roosevelt!

 

While we're at it, did anyone think, while watching the first episode and seeing Eugene arriving in the US, "Wow, San Francisco looks a lot like NYC", and then realize he was actually supposed to be arriving in NYC? I assumed the port of entry would be San Francisco, since that was the major west coast US city then, but then I realized they were arriving in New York, and I figured they must have gone aaaallllll the way around the southern tip of South America, you know, since the Panama Canal didn't exist yet? No big deal, until Eugene said that it took him a month to get to America on that ship. Would going from Seoul to New York City by ship in just one month even have been possible?????

 

Oh, and then he's shown at the Naval Academy, for some reason, and then in D.C., talking to President (Theodore) Roosevelt. Okay, Annapolis and D.C. aren't too far apart. But then he's suddenly back in NYC, like, later that day, or something? How? How did that happen? 

 

Who on the production team was supposed to be in charge of looking at maps??????

 

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(On backstreet, at night, still in Japan) Aeshin sees someone with umbrella coming to her. The man  has his shirt sleeves folded up. Aeshin seems to carry a rifle.

Not sure next scene is connected, but Aeshin seems surprised.

 


The man with an umbrella is probably Eugene.  Aeshin dressed in a suit and took a gun to start a planned mission in Japan. Eugene probably guessed that she have some hidden mission and I wonder what the outcome of this conversation will be. He will let her go and she promises to come back to him? It seems that they are now married because it is her only way to get to Japan and she has some duties towards her husband - she will try stay alive and back to him? He take her to Japan so this should be mutual trust, love and fulfillment of promises, acceptance  points of view as true couple.

 

 

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(Japanese military are attacking from all sides, Korean military school students and killing them, some students trying to escape, and our 3 younglings trying to get to weapon storage)

Eugene: Courage leads the history. so become a lion.

 

 

Thoughts - it is not easy to predict this scene

 

First version?

It seems that we have timeskip. Uniforms of Japanese soldiers have changed. Eugene could only take a vacation and after all actions in Japan, force his wife to get on the ship and send her to US. Kyle could already be sent to Japan and help him with the ticket. Someone will take care of her in a foreign country (telegram) - he wants to ensure her safety. He can punish her for leaving him for half year and hiding some things from him why she wanted go to Japan (he can also be a bit cruel and have some right in this matter). He will return to US after a few months? I'm curious about her reaction if it happens. He stayed alone in her homeland and did as much as he could and had to return (deployment). He did more for her than he had to do so she should forgive and thank him. This time she should accept his attitude and show her understanding as a wife. She lack this at the moment in room (disappearance for 8 months and hidden mission in Japan).

 

Second version

It seems that we have timeskip. Probably the most likely version because the uniforms of Japanese soldiers have changed and this may be many months after they left the country. Eugene and Aeshin may already be in the US. Words he said remained in their memory "Courage makes history - be a lion" (a man whom they respected and was an example for them)

Japanese soldiers have taken over the barracks and want to arrest the cadets. Some of them escape and some will die. 

 

 

 

previevs must be watched several times to see something or try to understand... so writers will use second version or something similar?

the first version also pleases me (this could fix a little plot about EC-AS relationship)

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Anyone can help?
What is the title of the song played towards the end of Ep 20?
It is such a perfect song reflecting Eugene's thoughts when Ae-Shin appears in front of him..
Thanks :)

Oh yes... i am repeating as in replaying Eugene's thoughts... his voice is so husky yet touches the soul... what a voice indeed... :love:

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