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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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16 minutes ago, nichiwoohee said:

 

That’s why a smart girl like ML can still be trapped by a rogue, a military general rogue :D

 

 

Eh?? But the doctor arc imo is pretty important..

 

I think the elders will start talking of engagement between the Doc and ML. But the writers may skip the whole cousin drama. Coz it may seem a little nasty of GTY to ruin a perfectly good match like that. He was just telling ML he will beat up people if they talk crap about her to ruin her potential matchmaking.

Also drama GTY is a much nicer character than the book GTY....so he might not do something like that. 

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22 minutes ago, dito said:

 

I think the elders will start talking of engagement between the Doc and ML. But the writers may skip the whole cousin drama. Coz it may seem a little nasty of GTY to ruin a perfectly good match like that. He was just telling ML he will beat up people if they talk crap about her to ruin her potential matchmaking.

Also drama GTY is a much nicer character than the book GTY....so he might not do something like that. 

 

I guess that will also work, that ending of ep 28 is so cute tho

 

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You just wait for my return ML.. I will beat up anyone who thrash talk you.. THEN I will trick you into marriage lol

 

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5 hours ago, m0us3y said:

Hahahah. I somehow just assumed that the useless general realises his importance. Obviously I had too much faith in him. 

 

So GTY listened to her the first time and enlist to the army, and then listened to her again and ditch the general! :lol:

No, not really, she did not advise him to ditch the general. This is one of the conversations where they spoke in codes like you said, when she did not actually advise him on how to advance his career but he let her guess what he was up to. She asked why he was still a foot soldier and was it because he was arrogant and acted pompously and was punished. TY did not answer just raised his eyebrows and she said ahhhh that was not it, you did something valorous to save the day and let the general take the credit and (indebted to you) and mentioned one of the strategies in Strategems of War, don't remember exactly what she said the strategy was, then praised his ingenuity. This is also when he told her that he did not enlist in his father's army because he wanted to advance through his own efforts as that was the honorable thing to do. But this conversation shows how in touch they are with each other. All he has to do is raise his eyebrows and boom.... she knows. TGY: I better be honest with her, she has ESP. she reads me . :lol:

 

Anyhow, since GTY is going to the frontlines, do we see him in action in the frontlines? How he gets his stars and stripes and become general? 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Lunkera said:

@tomo74 Probably. ML has been looked down upon and been neglected, by giving such a huge ammount of gifts he's probably stating that she should not be messed with and looked down on.

You got it right there I think.  I saw in one of the trailers that GTY said to ML something like "I don't want you to suffer anymore and being looked down upon".  So I guess this is his way of showing to people that regardless of the fact that she was born a shu (from a concubine), it does not mean that she has less value.  This is his way of protecting her.  We all know that GTY is a sucker for "defenceless" women : Manniang, Yanran, ML.  It may seemed like a petty gesture (I personally do not look at it this way), but I think his priority is Minglan and to ensure that people know that he value her a lot.  Ruolan is a nice enough girl but you can see glimpses of her being quite spoilt and self important since she is born "Di" daughter.  I hope they all get happy ending.   Most of them anyways :) 

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I know this is late but I just want to say I perfectly understand the fact that there is tongfang and how the guys in this era aren't that pure. However I just ignore this facts like how I ignore other relastic details to try and enjoy the show. 

 

Well that's that carry on with the topic. 

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I usually don't watch alot of chinese drama. But the korean dramas that has been the last 1 year has been pretty boring. So i started watching Yan Xi Palace and i was hooked on it. Haven't watched much of cdrama since TMOPB. The last 3 weeks i've been hooked :D . I tend to read alot of chinese translated novel though so i've waited on Minglan for over a year along with Joy of Life. I prefer watching more realistic dramas than fantasy. I'm amazed by the quality of Yan Xi Palace and Story of Minglan. Two amazing dramas. Can't wait until GTY and ML is married.

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11 hours ago, hello210 said:

I think since Molan had made it very obvious with her intentions for 6th Liang son that ML is using it to her advantage and may be making Molan feel desperate after the whole gift thing to push her into action. Kind of stoking the fire and letting Molan hang herself quicker, taking Concubine Lin down with her since mothers are responsible for the actions of their children because of how they raised them. Plus by this point, I don’t think anyone will believe that Concubine Lin may not have helped Molan.

I don't think ML did this since if Molan's name is tainted then both Rulan and ML herself would be ruined too. Molan was lucky Grandma found a way to blackmail the Liang family, otherwise the whole family's reputation was done for. And Molan's virginity was definitely not lost since she knew for sure if she was not a virgin she could never be married off as the main wife. Back then it was really harsh on women. Being hugged was enough to ruin a girl's name.

 

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1 hour ago, nichiwoohee said:

 

I guess that will also work, that ending of ep 28 is so cute tho

 

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You just wait for my return ML.. I will beat up anyone who thrash talk you.. THEN I will trick you into marriage lol

 

I was laughing thinking the same. He seemed to hint that he wants her to wait for him and don’t get married. He will be the one to protect her. 

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10 minutes ago, linhlinh111 said:

I don't think ML did this since if Molan's name is tainted then both Rulan and ML herself would be ruined too. Molan was lucky Grandma found a way to blackmail the Liang family, otherwise the whole family's reputation was done for. And Molan's virginity was definitely not lost since she knew for sure if she was not a virgin she could never be married off as the main wife. Back then it was really harsh on women. Being hugged was enough to ruin a girl's name.

 

 

Besides if Molan really pulled the pregnant con then I have to say she was really stupid. She could just use her looks and sweet talking to gain Liang's son attention, but she chose to be married off in such a shameful way. And actually if Liang family refused to take her (they had a valid reason not to) then she is doomed for sure.

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8 hours ago, USAFarmgirl said:

 

 

He may continue to live but without ML his life will always be lacking and his heart will always be half full. 

I wonder without the love and happiness you desire and yearn for her so close and yet so far.  Is that really living?

Or just existing? 

 

 

This part is so damn true and makes you think about your life as well. 

 

8 hours ago, cheekychipmunk_stv said:

 

You rightly said it. This is not life.  It's just existing for sake of existing. QH unfortunately belongs to those type of men who will only love 1 woman for the rest of his life. How he beg his mom to let his man servant off and how it is no fault of his man servant. It's just the man servant loved him and pitied him. All the blame is his.  But his mom will not renders. She will remove anyone that don't go according to her command and her rule. The man servant BW is the only person who truly understands the kind of life QH lead, hence he wishes his master to be happy.  And he is the only person besides ML that QH values more than life. He felt like a failure all in 1 night - he couldn't protect/save his loyal servant from death, he couldn't keep his promises to ML, instead because of him, his servant died, ML and her family got threatened to ruins and his father hold hostage. He felt like his life is a joke - like a piece of commodity.  That's why he said if I'm the caused of all these chaos, then I might as well end my life and everything will be settled. 

 

I think (in my limited mandarin) the princess threatened to ruin ML n her family as well as his family even if he were to end his life. Pls correct me if I'm wrong. Hence he gave in n sign his life away.

 

The fact QH's mother killed his servant just shows what a evil women she truly is.

 

7 hours ago, leeza77 said:

Poor linniang:D

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Pfft at least shes living i would prefer he dead.

 

7 hours ago, gleek49 said:

 

I'm not sure about the rebellion. There are two in the book, one is during the old emperor's reign and one right after the start of the new emperor's reign. GTY really earned his merits in the second one. I'm thinking that they will only do with one rebellion in the drama. How they gonna do it, we'll have to see.

 

I'm curious how they'll going to deal with Ru Lan's love story. I don't think they will cut it, since I saw one scene of them dating in one of the trailers.

 

I hope they dont cut Ru Lan's love story and i dont mind if they cut the 1st rebellion. 

7 hours ago, m0us3y said:

Yeah. Rulan indeed has a love story. I'm just wondering if they will use GTY to use Rulan to marry ML, or will Rulan story be a stand alone. 

 

I would prefer it if there was no trickery to marrying ML but that is just me some people like how he tricked his way to marry ML.

 

6 hours ago, Lunkera said:

@tomo74 Probably. ML has been looked down upon and been neglected, by giving such a huge ammount of gifts he's probably stating that she should not be messed with and looked down on.

 

He's a guy that wins the heart's of all viewer's with his actions haha he really fell for her hard.

 

6 hours ago, leeza77 said:
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I think gty will use the same manipulation as the novel. During one of the interviews, he fsf told media that gty was scheming to catch ML. And after marrying her, he told the truth to ML he said nothing should be hidden in the marriage. 

 

 

Im glad he told her at least nothing should be hidden in a marriage like he said.

 

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Rewatching the trailer it seems so. I don’t find this a good change because in the book one of the best parts was them being at the top  and fighting from the top. I guess it would be a way to show her fighting for him, protecting him but I liked he was loved by the Emperor.

 

 

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IM really unsure what we saw in the trailer with ML ringing the bell / Jail scene but it could be that GTY family rebellion thing and it was blamed on GTY? 

 

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1 hour ago, linhlinh111 said:

I don't think ML did this since if Molan's name is tainted then both Rulan and ML herself would be ruined too. Molan was lucky Grandma found a way to blackmail the Liang family, otherwise the whole family's reputation was done for. And Molan's virginity was definitely not lost since she knew for sure if she was not a virgin she could never be married off as the main wife. Back then it was really harsh on women. Being hugged was enough to ruin a girl's name.

 

No ML didn’t plan it like she did with CB, CF, and the maids. She didn’t need to. All she had to do was fan the flames a little and Molan would have eventually jumped into action to cutoff Liang mama’s intentions. And I think she fanned the flames in her interactions with Molan ever since going to polo that second time where Liang mama was doting on ML which resulted in the fight and ML getting cut and Sheng Hong getting an earful. ML probably didn’t think Molan would go as far as she did and Molan didn’t really think about her reputation when she was alone with 6th Liang son missing layers of clothing or if she was using pregnancy as a way to get out of being  beat as shown in the previews. I think someone also mentioned that in the novel Grandma had to bribe the Liang for the marriage after what Molan did. Also Molan never really cares about Rulan or ML as long as she gets what she wants just like she could have ruined all their reputations at polo if ML hadn’t thrown mud at her.

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1 hour ago, linhlinh111 said:

 

Besides if Molan really pulled the pregnant con then I have to say she was really stupid. She could just use her looks and sweet talking to gain Liang's son attention, but she chose to be married off in such a shameful way. And actually if Liang family refused to take her (they had a valid reason not to) then she is doomed for sure.

Sweet talking Liang son doesn’t work with getting his mom’s approval when his mom wants ML as her daughter in law.:lol:

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8 minutes ago, hello210 said:

Sweet talking Liang son doesn’t work with getting his mom’s approval when his mom wants ML as her daughter in law.:lol:

I mean a little bit of physical touching was quite enough to do the trick but pregnant? How the hell did she think she could get away with that? She was smarter in the book really. 

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42 minutes ago, linhlinh111 said:

I mean a little bit of physical touching was quite enough to do the trick but pregnant? How the hell did she think she could get away with that? She was smarter in the book really. 

Yeah...I was a little shocked at that too :blink: but I guess in the trailers she told Hualan that if they beat her to death they’re killing 2 people. Apparently they made her cunning with her charms but not smart in the drama. 

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Just watched ep 31 & 32 raw on YouTube.  :hushed: Molan met up with 6th Liang son multiple times before getting caught. Need subs to fully understand but prego may not be a lie?

 

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32 minutes ago, linhlinh111 said:

I mean a little bit of physical touching was quite enough to do the trick but pregnant? How the hell did she think she could get away with that? She was smarter in the book really. 

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Actually molan and the 6th liang's son meeting occured for many. ML knew about the mtg, manipulate rulan to persuade her mother to go temple the next day. The mother saw Molan wearing maid clothes and suspect something amiss. Get the servant to check on it and found about Molan affair. The day after that, the mother spy on Molan and once again, Molan met with the guy. Told sheng hong and he caught them. The meeting occurred at least three times. So, before they eas caught, who knows what they have done privately behind the temple. The guy was a rake. So, the possibility of pregnancy was there and it was hard to lie about that as the family surely make sure she really pregnant before negotiating with liang's family

 

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Ep 33 & 34 highly anticipated. Liang mama really crazy about ML to suggest that ML to marry her son as the main wife and Molan as a concubine. LOL. :D

 

Ohh.. ML become a hero. Carrying message for help from the emperor to his intended heir. And Gty persuade the heir to accept the request of emperor to suceed him.so, marriage is looming on the horizon. 

 

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