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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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58 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

Im sad she got cut but what i hate in drama's is when a female gets cut or some crap its healed next episode.. so annoying. 

We should time travel there, get the meds recipe and come back, we'll be a millionare :glasses:

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34 minutes ago, USAFarmgirl said:

 

 

Everyone has their own ideas and it's exciting to see how different they can be.  In these last episodes I found myself thinking a lot about QH and I honestly felt so sorry for him. I believe he suffers and will for a very long time.  Although I agree life is a gift and precious and never should be taken lightly.  When I  was watching his heart soar during the polo match and their victory, When he sent word to comfort her.  When he wanted to shout his love from the mountain top and she didn't want anyone to know how he felt.  When his Mother broke his heart time and time again from pearls to beating to death the one person he cherished that to him was family...

 

I guess my point is that he loves ML even now and I believe he always will.  Seeing him in the garden looking thin and unlike his cheerful self to having a knife under his chin and every part of himself shaking when he knew and believed there was no other choice but to sign his life away...

 

He may have had the easiest life from the outside but I think living with those kind of expectations and control from his Mother on the inside.  His life must have felt so lonely and so trapped and the sad part is now there are just more people trying to control him.  

 

He may continue to live but without ML his life will always be lacking and his heart will always be half full. 

I wonder without the love and happiness you desire and yearn for her so close and yet so far.  Is that really living?

Or just existing? 

 

 

You rightly said it. This is not life.  It's just existing for sake of existing. QH unfortunately belongs to those type of men who will only love 1 woman for the rest of his life. How he beg his mom to let his man servant off and how it is no fault of his man servant. It's just the man servant loved him and pitied him. All the blame is his.  But his mom will not renders. She will remove anyone that don't go according to her command and her rule. The man servant BW is the only person who truly understands the kind of life QH lead, hence he wishes his master to be happy.  And he is the only person besides ML that QH values more than life. He felt like a failure all in 1 night - he couldn't protect/save his loyal servant from death, he couldn't keep his promises to ML, instead because of him, his servant died, ML and her family got threatened to ruins and his father hold hostage. He felt like his life is a joke - like a piece of commodity.  That's why he said if I'm the caused of all these chaos, then I might as well end my life and everything will be settled. 

 

I think (in my limited mandarin) the princess threatened to ruin ML n her family as well as his family even if he were to end his life. Pls correct me if I'm wrong. Hence he gave in n sign his life away.

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If they are doing the wedding this week, I do wonder if they are doing away with the marrying Rulan to marry ML story? 

Since we already see Molan getting married, which means there needs to be a rebellion? 

 

Just suspecting. Because I rewatch the trailers (again) and one of them has ML's voiceover that "None of them dares to take the stake...only I dare to"...I'm wondering if she meant betting on GTY?

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1 hour ago, cheekychipmunk_stv said:

 

Actually through out his life, he lived accordingly to his mom wishes. It's not that he is weak or what. He just want peace. He knows what his mom is capable of and if he don't live like a muppet and flatter his mom to her whims,  it's not him who suffers but the people around him. Like he said to his mom, he has always lived his life as per her say, he only want just 1 thing in his life (his heart desire) - that is ML. Even then, she will not give it to him. How cruel can a mother be?  If she truly loves her son, she will grant him his utmost wish. Sadly QH is just a tool for her like a daughter from a noble household.

 

You're right about him just wanting peace. But I don't think because he knew his mother, but because his life had been easy, thus, before ML, he never had any reason to fight for anything with anyone, so it's natural that he choose the peaceful road most of the time. He had been living well-off, sheltered and well-loved by his parents, which resulted in his naive nature, he didn't know anything about anyone, not even his parents. If he knew about what his mom was capable of, he would never:

1. Played the polo match. We have talked about this before.

2. Pulled the birthday stun. I'm sorry but that was beyond stupid. And he genuinely thought it could work! Any mother would feel so betrayed, not even the kindest one would agree in that situation, let alone his mother.

3. Had Buwei helped him communicate with ML. Like how could he not predicted that his mother would punish Buwei for continuously covering for him and helping him sneaking around?

4. Being so unaware about his parents being under immense pressure under two powerful families. I blame his parents, too, for not letting him know earlier. But I guess that is how his family worked, parents sheltered son from everything, which led to this situation where he was unable to dealt with anything on his own.

 

With that being said, I'm glad that this experience pushes him to grow up. It was very mature of him for making a hard decision. I hope that he can move on and make the best out of his situation. To keep drowning in misery or try to move on is entirely on himself, no one can help him. If Minglan - a woman, a "shu" daughter - can do it, there's no reason he can't (afaik, his wives after the princess was nice enough, so I think he can totally try to make it work with them).

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19 minutes ago, m0us3y said:

If they are doing the wedding this week, I do wonder if they are doing away with the marrying Rulan to marry ML story? 

Since we already see Molan getting married, which means there needs to be a rebellion? 

 

 

I'm not sure about the rebellion. There are two in the book, one is during the old emperor's reign and one right after the start of the new emperor's reign. GTY really earned his merits in the second one. I'm thinking that they will only do with one rebellion in the drama. How they gonna do it, we'll have to see.

 

I'm curious how they'll going to deal with Ru Lan's love story. I don't think they will cut it, since I saw one scene of them dating in one of the trailers.

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8 minutes ago, gleek49 said:

 

I'm not sure about the rebellion. There are two in the book, one is during the old emperor's reign and one right after the start of the new emperor's reign. GTY really earned his merits in the second one. I'm thinking that they will only do with one rebellion in the drama. How they gonna do it, we'll have to see.

 

I'm curious how they'll going to deal with Ru Lan's love story. I don't think they will cut it, since I saw one scene of them dating in one of the trailers.

 

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I think the will follow the novel where Rulan was caught meeting with her sweetheart. And the sheng family marry her off to the sweetheart eventhough he is of lower status than Rulan. 

 

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13 minutes ago, gleek49 said:

 

I'm not sure about the rebellion. There are two in the book, one is during the old emperor's reign and one right after the start of the new emperor's reign. GTY really earned his merits in the second one. I'm thinking that they will only do with one rebellion in the drama. How they gonna do it, we'll have to see.

 

I'm curious how they'll going to deal with Ru Lan's love story. I don't think they will cut it, since I saw one scene of them dating in one of the trailers.

Yeah. Rulan indeed has a love story. I'm just wondering if they will use GTY to use Rulan to marry ML, or will Rulan story be a stand alone. 

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30 minutes ago, leeza77 said:

 

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I think the will follow the novel where Rulan was caught meeting with her sweetheart. And the sheng family marry her off to the sweetheart eventhough he is of lower status than Rulan. 

 

Yeah, they should show a bit of Rulan’s romance because there was BTS pictures of all three girls pregnant in one of the old comments I think.

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10 hours ago, dito said:

 

GTY splurged a lot of money.....and I think some big political and military figures were in attendance ...so yeah it was big affair.

All I remember is that his bride price was huge. Tons of expensive fabrics, jewelry, accessories, etc

 

edit.....I went and checked...heres the list...Apparently GTY filled their whole yard with his gifts.

100... Horses, Pigs( it says Minglan pigs...I don't know if there really is a pig named like that),

abalone, clams, oysters, mushrooms, shrimp, squid, sea cucumber, shark's fin..... etc

1200 feet of fabric..which includes....80 feet of crepe, 88 feet of camlet, 180 feet of various colors of Shu embroidered brocade, etc

34 gold dragon phoenix bracelets....another 18 pieces of some dragon phoenix jewelry I can't make out.

Then there were different kinds of fish, wine, tea and candy for all 4 seasons. 

GTY didn't know instead of making people happy his gifts made some people unhappy. Da niang and Rulan to be exact. Both had no objections to GTY marrying ML before but when they saw the bride price both start to regret letting GTY go from their hands. And GTY was so petty sending the bride price for ML on day Rulan's lite-bride price came.

Is it possible that GTY throw such a generous gifts for ML because he wants to shut the gossiper's mouth (like what he told ML to not pay any attention to any gossip people might talk) that her reputation ruined (because of QH's mum's saga), like he want to show the world that ML is worth and he is the luckiest man?

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@tomo74 Probably. ML has been looked down upon and been neglected, by giving such a huge ammount of gifts he's probably stating that she should not be messed with and looked down on.

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39 minutes ago, m0us3y said:

Yeah. Rulan indeed has a love story. I'm just wondering if they will use GTY to use Rulan to marry ML, or will Rulan story be a stand alone. 

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I think gty will use the same manipulation as the novel. During one of the interviews, he fsf told media that gty was scheming to catch ML. And after marrying her, he told the truth to ML he said nothing should be hidden in the marriage. 

 

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@leeza77 That would be great, no secrets and being completely open with eachother. I've read alot of novels in ancient time both fantasy and historical fiction, i love when they are a true power couple. Completely honest and equal to eachother.

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They should keep the GTY scheming to get ML

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He not only scheme Rulan, I think he also orchestrated the childhood cousin of The Doctor to appear. Such scoundrel that GTY :D

 

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3 minutes ago, nichiwoohee said:

They should keep the GTY scheming to get ML

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He not only scheme Rulan, I think he also orchestrated the childhood cousin of The Doctor to appear. Such scoundrel that GTY :D

 

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He is a great strategist. In episode 28, when scolding QH for tarnishing ML's reputation, he told qh that when planning something you should have planned 5 moves ahead and 3 moves backwards. Lol, ML's has just to wait to be caught by gty. She has no chance at all to escape him. 

 

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I can't wait for QH family to lose their royal backing. The mother are confident that Prince Yong will be named crown prince and ascend to the throne. Since GTY is going off to the frontline now while ML will get a little of revenge at home. Her reputation tarnished? just wait until GTY comes back :D 

 

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2 hours ago, gleek49 said:

 

I'm not sure about the rebellion. There are two in the book, one is during the old emperor's reign and one right after the start of the new emperor's reign. GTY really earned his merits in the second one. I'm thinking that they will only do with one rebellion in the drama. How they gonna do it, we'll have to see.

 

I'm curious how they'll going to deal with Ru Lan's love story. I don't think they will cut it, since I saw one scene of them dating in one of the trailers.

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 I think earlier on, gty has saved a general and he was very thankful to him. Then in episode 28, the general has invited him to join his troupe. During the conversation between ML and GTY in episode 28, he told her that he is already a high position person in the army. Even without the rebellion, he still be able to marry ML. 

 

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49 minutes ago, nichiwoohee said:

They should keep the GTY scheming to get ML

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He not only scheme Rulan, I think he also orchestrated the childhood cousin of The Doctor to appear. Such scoundrel that GTY :D

 

 

43 minutes ago, leeza77 said:
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He is a great strategist. In episode 28, when scolding QH for tarnishing ML's reputation, he told qh that when planning something you should have planned 5 moves ahead and 3 moves backwards. Lol, ML's has just to wait to be caught by gty. She has no chance at all to escape him. 

 

 

I too wish they at least keep some of his behind the scenes machinations. I want to see his smart brain working hard to get the girl. 

Though I think there will be no cousin of the Dr coming in to ruin everything....coz I don't see an actress listed for that role.

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1 hour ago, leeza77 said:
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He is a great strategist. In episode 28, when scolding QH for tarnishing ML's reputation, he told qh that when planning something you should have planned 5 moves ahead and 3 moves backwards. Lol, ML's has just to wait to be caught by gty. She has no chance at all to escape him. 

 

That's why they will both be very powerful couple! Both have great foresight! 

GTY plans for 5 moves ahead, 3 moves backwards, ML planned for 6-7 years ahead! :D

 

That's why she told GTY she cannot judge Rong'er 's happiness on that moment alone.

 

I am really liking how they build the relationship between ML-GTY out of trust and a solid base, and then love. 

 

GTY really listens to her. And all their interactions show that they know each other so well. Including the fact that he's still a foot soldier cuz he must have been too proud and hence angered the general. Or he must have achieved too much victory too fast! :lol:

 

Just the way they can speak so frankly and comfortably with each other....from "why are you still a foot soldier?" To the toast because "I admire you". :wub:

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