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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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5 hours ago, Suzzy San said:

Seriously from what everyone has been saying, you said it all.. ML is at this point just keeping receipts of the goodness she is receiving which thinking about it, it's so stressful.. To ML now, it's not about not trusting him, it's more about bot doing the best fro him.. They are so funny, on one hand GTY is thinking that he must shower her with more love, on the other hand ML is thinking of how to live upto his expectations that she has now try to make herself a perfect woman trying to make sure there is no fault in her.. So that explains how she doesn't want to show her jealousy or her insecure side because that is like having flaws, which is what GTY wants but ML thinks he just wants her to be perfect.. So funny where their misunderstanding lies.. I need their arguments noooowwww

I think by now ML knows pretty well what GTY wants, she is just reluctant to give it to him since she knows it would be her weakness once things go wrong.

 

Ep 48: GTY's brother said that GTY was avoiding his question. I think it's true. What do you guys think?

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23 hours ago, Lunkera said:

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I guess from the other trailers and latest episode, Manniang has gone crazy with the death of her son.  She went a litle cookoo cookoo in the head and seemed to switch from nice and normal to vicious and crazy.  

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2 hours ago, minglan1 said:

It feels like they are building up GTY's fall from his current position of power.

The issue with ED where she he courts her displeasure, the Gu cousin incident and now the Maniang issue..The relationship between him and the emperor is getting strained. :(

 

Looks lik QH is somehow involved in these incidents.I am hoping he doesn't become a pawn in the power struggle because of his anger towards GTY.

 

 

 

 

If he does fall into the trap of ED bidding then I have even less respect for him.  It is one thing holding justice but another to purposely stir trouble for GTY.  These vicious people cannot stand to see our fav couple live in peace.  Stepmom won the award for being truly evil. Her son is actually quite decent.  He truly cared for his 2nd brother.  

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25 minutes ago, frenchfan said:

If he does fall into the trap of ED bidding then I have even less respect for him.  It is one thing holding justice but another to purposely stir trouble for GTY.  These vicious people cannot stand to see our fav couple live in peace.  Stepmom won the award for being truly evil. Her son is actually quite decent.  He truly cared for his 2nd brother.  

 

Stepmom's son actually sounds like a reasonable and normal person, who probably has no idea how evil and devious his mother his.  CB always claimed that he really does love his brother and always asked about GTY while he was in "exile."  But then again CB is kinda naive so I wasn't sure.

 

QH ah, oh boy oh boy.  Where to start?  It's one thing to pine after another man's wife in his heart but to sink so low as to stir up trouble for him?  Doesn't he realize that she will suffer too if GTY gets in trouble?  Or does he want to punish her as well for not choosing him?  I really can't tell anymore.

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I feel they are doing a bit of an overkill with all the schemes against the main couple. They are literally getting attacked from all sides.

ED is plotting to bring down GTY....maybe by using QH,

QH, himself may be holding petty grudges....making trouble for GTY

Gu family and Stepmom

Manniang.....I think it might be the stepmom using her to spread the rumors....thats her specialty...

not to forget QH's nasty wife who's obsession with hurting ML is going to destroy her own marriage.   

 

I love the husband wife scenes that show them slowly falling in love....but all we'll be getting soon is plots, schemes and downfall of GTY....hopefully soon. So he can rise again fast.

 

One question....if GTY looses his rank, title and properties....where will ML live after he's sent off to join the army as a foot soldier. 

Lets hope its not in the Gu manor.....just thinking about it gives me chills.

At this part of the drama...most of the story tracks happening are not from the book so I'm feeling a bit on the edge not knowing what's going to happen next. :ph34r:

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I guess you were right about MN going around the town but she didn’t say GTY killed the son. 

MN wondered around city with no baggage, ragged and broke having no money for food. (GTY and ML should have given her some money if they were to follow her. I'm not sure step-mom asked people to snatch things from MN as when she left GTY's house, she didn't look ragged! )

MN going around saying GTY has taken her daughter, forced her to leave and didn't let her be with her children. He is now trying to get the son from her. Step-mom brought MN to the capital with the help of GTY’s Bai relative (the uncle who tried to inherit his maternal grandfather's properties at the funeral) and she is enjoying her handy work. Her maid said that GTY is going to have a hard time from now on. 

(Very similar conversation bt GTY and QH as before GTY & ML got married). GTY told QH if he were him he would have made proposal to the girl family the next day after he knew he liked her. He said QH should have asked for ML's hand in marriage since he was studying at Sheng's house before County princess came along. He should have taken his help when he offered. His final saying was "Runlo, you should know that nobody will stay at the original place to wait for you".

 

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2 hours ago, paras said:

Do you think ML is upset because she realizes that Molan is using the same tactic as her Mom to get rid of the babies of her husband's concubines ? This is the first time she seems to talk loudly and have a back bone inside the Sheng family, especially against her father.

This might be the case

 

1 hour ago, Golden Flower said:

I actually rewatched the trailer and fixed my translation after you posted. It seems to me Molan was trying to kneel but her husband prevented her or she sat back down after SH pulled her up from kneeling. I'm not sure she is trying to kneel to beg ML something or ML brought up about CL causing ML's mom death. Molan's husband didn't look that upset though he obviously look uncomfortable. So, I'm not sure whether ML directly accuse Molan causing foils for her husband's concubine. Then, may be ML get angry due to Molan's usual tactics of crying/ kneeling and ML started throwing bowls? (just a guess...conversation is too brief and pretty sure cut in between, very difficult to make out).

Maybe this was what happened.. Molan being cunning again.. She is yet to learn her lesson

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11 minutes ago, Golden Flower said:

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 @gleek49

I guess you were right about MN going around the town.

MN wondered around city with no baggage, ragged and broke having no money for food. (GTY and ML should have given her some money if they were to follow her. I'm not sure step-mom asked people to snatch things from MN as when she left GTY's house, she didn't look this ragged! )

MN going around saying GTY snatched her daughter, forced her to leave and didn't let her be with her children. He is now trying to get the son from her. Step-mom brought MN with the help of Bai relative (the uncle who tried to snatch his maternal grandfather's properties at the funeral) and she is enjoying her handy work. Her maid said that GTY is going to have a hard time from now on. 

(Very similar conversation bt GTY and QH). GTY told QH if he were him he would have made proposal to the girl as soon as he knew he liked her. He said QH should have asked for ML's hand in marriage since he was studying at Sheng's house before County princess came along. He should have taken his help when he offered. His final saying was "Runlo, you should know that nobody will stay at the original place to wait for you".

 

@bold is exactly right! But QH looked confused/hurt at what GTY was saying so I am not sure if he is doing this on purpose...guess we’ll find out when the episode airs

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17 minutes ago, Golden Flower said:

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 @gleek49

I guess you were right about MN going around the town.

MN wondered around city with no baggage, ragged and broke having no money for food. (GTY and ML should have given her some money if they were to follow her. I'm not sure step-mom asked people to snatch things from MN as when she left GTY's house, she didn't look this ragged! )

MN going around saying GTY snatched her daughter, forced her to leave and didn't let her be with her children. He is now trying to get the son from her. Step-mom brought MN with the help of Bai relative (the uncle who tried to snatch his maternal grandfather's properties at the funeral) and she is enjoying her handy work. Her maid said that GTY is going to have a hard time from now on. 

(Very similar conversation bt GTY and QH). GTY told QH if he were him he would have made proposal to the girl as soon as he knew he liked her. He said QH should have asked for ML's hand in marriage since he was studying at Sheng's house before County princess came along. He should have taken his help when he offered. His final saying was "Runlo, you should know that nobody will stay at the original place to wait for you".

 

Omg this is so sad... The son he has been looking for is dead.. What nooooo.. Looks like they stopped the first return Manniang was supposed to have and just killed the son once and for all.. Pretty progressive.. So sad QH is still hellbent on this matter.. So sad GTY is going to be so weak now and they have the opportunity of coming for him now, so sad his fall is coming but so happy the couple's argument will soon come too to make them stronger.. I'm so looking forward to all these scenes 

7 minutes ago, darkphoenix123 said:

@bold is exactly right! But QH looked confused/hurt at what GTY was saying so I am not sure if he is doing this on purpose...guess we’ll find out when the episode airs

I think he is just still so sad that somehow GTY is right about everything.. You know that feeling of confusion that how can his rival be someone this great and clear minded when he thought GTY was just a rogue.. Or he might actually be so scared that somehow he has been doing something he wasn't capable of doing before because of hatred and revenge so he might also hate himself 

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2 hours ago, Suzzy San said:

If after all this GTY still doesn't fall then the writer is making him an invisible hero really, before getting to these episodes I was wondering on how the thoughtful and clear headed GTY will be made to fall.. But seriously after knowing these will be the problem I respect him the more because it was his plead for family, his truth towards the throne, and his suffering towards his son, and his love towards his wife that was used against him.. No one can argue against righteousness but your move for rughtgeouness can be used against you.. I really I'm tired on behalf of ML and GTY on all this power struggle bullcrap that's happening 

Quite true.It is difficult for GTY to remain neutral.He swore allegiance to the previous emperor and is carrying out his order to assist the new one.ED might not like it but she wasn't the ruler in the 1st place.She was to help with transition only. GTY keeps mentioning to ML about the upcoming power showdown and that things might get rough.

As per him he has a plan to tide this over.

Unforseen circumstances like Maniang's machinations are already butting into his plans.Have to see if his calculations are good enough to weather them or he needs helping hands.

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1 minute ago, minglan1 said:

Quite true.It is difficult for GTY to remain neutral.He swore allegiance to the previous emperor and is carrying out his order to assist the new one.ED might not like it but she wasn't the ruler in the 1st place.She was to help with transition only. GTY keeps mentioning to ML about the upcoming power showdown and that things might get rough.

As per him he has a plan to tide this over.

Unforseen circumstances like Maniang's machinations are already butting into his plans.Have to see if his calculations are good enough to weather them or he needs helping hands.

Exactly he had a set plan for all those period but all the MN bullcrap is making it hard so I think that was eventually made him go to prison, but he might have thought of another plan in the prison that ML might help him with.. Trust GTY for plans in a dangerous situation especially now that ML is here too..I'm so waiting fro his fall and how he rise again.. One thing I'm glad about is that even as a foot soldier he is still not to be looked down upon since he still has gu family marquis title but we know he love himself as a general so he will work hard for it again 

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4 minutes ago, minglan1 said:

Quite true.It is difficult for GTY to remain neutral.He swore allegiance to the previous emperor and is carrying out his order to assist the new one.ED might not like it but she wasn't the ruler in the 1st place.She was to help with transition only. GTY keeps mentioning to ML about the upcoming power showdown and that things might get rough.

As per him he has a plan to tide this over.

Unforseen circumstances like Maniang's machinations are already butting into his plans.Have to see if his calculations are good enough to weather them or he needs helping hands.

 

How cool would it be if his downfall is all a part of his plan. Getting punished and sent off to fight as a foot soldier may be just the thing to get his family from out of the middle of the power struggle. 

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1 hour ago, dito said:

 

How cool would it be if his downfall is all a part of his plan. Getting punished and sent off to fight as a foot soldier may be just the thing to get his family from out of the middle of the power struggle. 

Wow.. It will be so cool like wow GTY is unpredictable really.. I will be so happy and proud if his downfall is his plan.. It's like the advance and retreat strategy... His plan would then be that of pouncing back to pounce 10 time forward.. But I'm afraid it might not be because he asked ML to separate amicably then but this might also be a plan. Like i said GTY is unpredictable and he is not someone who will ask ML to divorce if there is no accurate reason 

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There's something about ming lan and ting ye when they are together. There's this fire that's ready to ignite. I like that Ting Ye is a very experienced man who's well-versed with the outside world & he adapts to all sorts of situation, just like ming lan. They both complement each other.

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@hello210 Agree with you.Hoping his interactions with ML that we see in the trailer might be the one that gets him to think little harder at what he is doing.

@ForgottenSoulx Quite possible.They may end on a happy family note.

@frenchfan I think he is putting a plan in place so that he doesn't become a casualty in the power struggle.He did mention he has put the enunch who saved ML in a high position.He is betting on Prince Huan to back him up since he is sticking his neck out.I hope the emperor and his son do that and not sacrifice him if things become uncomfortable.

@dito If the downfall is part of his plan than it will become the story of GTY.Since it is the story of Minglan I am thinking his best laid plans will inadvertently land him in crisis and ML will come to the rescue.He has been rescuing her from childhood..Time for her to return the favor and be no less than his equal.

 

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I think ting ye is a well written character. He's not perfect but that's what makes him likable & interesting because there's more room for him to develop. I love his relationship with the people around him. I like that he's also responsible, sensible.

 

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@dito I concur with you on the overkill. They can't even get a breather! Everyone seems to be plotting against them. 

 

But in one of the preview, GTY's stepmom also mention something along the line (if my understanding is right) that they (GTY-ML) is a formidable pairing. 

One does direct attacks, another sniping. 

One goes offensive, the other defensive. 

I actually thought it was spot on. 

The way they would discuss and talk about strategies, with GTY always just trying to bulldoze his way, while ML always trying to resolve things without making GTY and her look bad. 

 

Also, whilst the downfall of GTY is inevitable, I think it will give ML a chance/ force her hands to truly show what she's capable of. 

To date, whilst she has been doing a lot, when things get rough, GTY is always very protective and come to the rescue. 

Hence I don't think we have seen her full potential of what she really is capable of if she steps up. 

 

ML has said that she will put her life to repay him. And I believe she meant it both figuratively, and literally. 

She staked her reputation, appearance, and her potential marriage to avenge her dead mom. 

Hell will break lose if anyone tries to harm granny or GTY. 

I have lil doubt that she will rise to the challenge. 

She has shown how much thought she put into her action, and how meticulous she is in her thought process.

 

 

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3 hours ago, paras said:

Do you think ML is upset because she realizes that Molan is using the same tactic as her Mom to get rid of the babies of her husband's concubines ? This is the first time she seems to talk loudly and have a back bone inside the Sheng family, especially against her father.

 

Yeah im so shocked she used disrespectful tone.. lay down the law girl.

 

3 hours ago, Golden Flower said:

I actually rewatched the trailer and fixed my translation after you posted. It seems to me Molan was trying to kneel but her husband prevented her or she sat back down after SH pulled her up from kneeling. I'm not sure she is trying to kneel to beg ML something or ML brought up about CL causing ML's mom death. Molan's husband didn't look that upset though he obviously look uncomfortable. So, I'm not sure whether ML directly accuse Molan causing foils for her husband's concubine. Then, may be ML get angry due to Molan's usual tactics of crying/ kneeling and ML started throwing bowls? (just a guess...conversation is too brief and pretty sure cut in between, very difficult to make out).

 

I would love it to play out like you wrote , did anything like this happen in the novel? I cant have Molan having a "good" life causing other babies death's she needs to have a horrible miserable life. 

2 hours ago, frenchfan said:

If he does fall into the trap of ED bidding then I have even less respect for him.  It is one thing holding justice but another to purposely stir trouble for GTY.  These vicious people cannot stand to see our fav couple live in peace.  Stepmom won the award for being truly evil. Her son is actually quite decent.  He truly cared for his 2nd brother.  

 

Can i just say i want head's to roll already there is not enough death for my liking.. Kill the step mum , MN and Molan for all i care. 2nd Brother is the only good person in that family other than GTY it seem's even with his mums brainwashing. 

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2 hours ago, deslynn88 said:

 

Stepmom's son actually sounds like a reasonable and normal person, who probably has no idea how evil and devious his mother his.  CB always claimed that he really does love his brother and always asked about GTY while he was in "exile."  But then again CB is kinda naive so I wasn't sure.

 

QH ah, oh boy oh boy.  Where to start?  It's one thing to pine after another man's wife in his heart but to sink so low as to stir up trouble for him?  Doesn't he realize that she will suffer too if GTY gets in trouble?  Or does he want to punish her as well for not choosing him?  I really can't tell anymore.

 

We dont know fully what's happening but we keep saying this to give QH the benefit of the doubt. :D

 

I want to hope hes simple and being used by ED but then he went to report GTY's actions so looks like hes after GTY for sure.. 

 

Im pretty sure the fire happens while GTY is away on punishment as well and if QH had a direct link to all this then he nearly caused ML's and her baby's death.. Ill hate him even more then he can be on my death list also. 

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1 hour ago, MarJo_Lei said:

There's something about ming lan and ting ye when they are together. There's this fire that's ready to ignite. I like that Ting Ye is a very experienced man who's well-versed with the outside world & he adapts to all sorts of situation, just like ming lan. They both complement each other.

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Omg these gifs are so precious.. And I think the dialouge for the rainy scene is clear enough, he will wait till she knows how to treat her husband on a rainy day, that method, well we might not know but it has to do with her being so lovely.. Truly the only great man in the show. Just live your life while enjoying the most out of it.. It doesn't mean you should be stupid but you should still allow some things to happen 

 

1 hour ago, minglan1 said:

@hello210 Agree with you.Hoping his interactions with ML that we see in the trailer might be the one that gets him to think little harder at what he is doing.

@ForgottenSoulx Quite possible.They may end on a happy family note.

@frenchfan I think he is putting a plan in place so that he doesn't become a casualty in the power struggle.He did mention he has put the enunch who saved ML in a high position.He is betting on Prince Huan to back him up since he is sticking his neck out.I hope the emperor and his son do that and not sacrifice him if things become uncomfortable.

@dito If the downfall is part of his plan than it will become the story of GTY.Since it is the story of Minglan I am thinking his best laid plans will inadvertently land him in crisis and ML will come to the rescue.He has been rescuing her from childhood..Time for her to return the favor and be no less than his equal.

 

That's also true, it will be story of GTY not ML.. So even though he has plans now he might still fail therefore leading to ML openly supporting her husband.. Truly the powerful and formidable couple :heart:

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