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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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Is it me or I find internal family dramas far more interesting than internal palace dramas? I've also read novels and I found Marquis families, merchant families, or a normal family's bickering quite funnier and more satisfying with the face slaps. :phew: 

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10 minutes ago, Renaro Kopique said:

Is it me or I find internal family dramas far more interesting than internal palace dramas? I've also read novels and I found Marquis families, merchant families, or a normal family's bickering quite funnier and more satisfying with the face slaps. :phew: 

 

Doesn't help that palace dramas are done to death haha :astonished:

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Rewatching the trailer, I find it refreshing QH smashed teacup(?) Old QH would have gone emo, but new QH actually got angry and went straight to GTY. His bitter life experience so far has taught him some boldness. Maybe not right morally, but at least he has toughened up a bit

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20 minutes ago, Renaro Kopique said:

Is it me or I find internal family dramas far more interesting than internal palace dramas? I've also read novels and I found Marquis families, merchant families, or a normal family's bickering quite funnier and more satisfying with the face slaps. :phew: 

Hahaha I love both. After watching a long mind numbing heart breaking tear jerking drama I like to switch off to something chill and funny. 

Best shows I’ve watched this year that had me  laughing out loud was Perfect Couple and The Dark Lord. 

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6 minutes ago, cherubstomato said:

Hahaha I love both. After watching a long mind numbing heart breaking tear jerking drama I like to switch off to something chill and funny. 

Best shows I’ve watched this year that had me  laughing out loud was Perfect Couple and The Dark Lord. 

The Dark Lord threw me back into depression. But I did love the MC's own sense of justice when he likes to decide who the bad guys should be. Perfect couple was nice, just a bit silly. Actually, both of these dramas got weird endings lol. I felt like I haven't seen normal historical dramas for a long time, recently it's based around the palace or mystery with detectives. Of course this excludes fantasy elements.

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14 hours ago, dito said:

About Molan....she will continue practicing her mother's evil teachings for a while. After she came to the Liang house, 2 of Liang 6th son's concubines suffered exactly the same type of difficult births that ML's mom went through. Pretending to be good main wife, feeding the concubines good, over rich food that resulted in babies growing too big in the womb. Not sure if both babies died....or the concubines. But after the second time it happened people started talking and connecting it to Molan.

I'm not sure what they did to her after that ..just read this on the spoiler site.

I knew it , she is way to much like her mother @dito. Just wacthing pretend to cry every time things didn't go her way. She is just as selfish as her mother.  

I clearly explained in details the type of personality each of the Sheng Children have. I am mostly disgusted by Concubine Lin's children. 

 

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11 hours ago, crackaddict said:

This thread moves so fast. I'm on winter vacation and still can't catch up. By the time I check any of my alerts, it's too late to respond because the conversation has been pushed back a few pages. It's interesting that ppl are still discussing QH with such intensity. I feel like ZYL is a good actor, but QH is written as a blah character...even very minor characters like Shitou and Xiaotao are funnier and cuter. Perhaps, it's because I'm old that I don't really care about princely characters and love lines with too many seemingly insurmountable obstacles.

 

In real life, people have lives after all. Wait, maybe I answered my own question. I guess it can be entertaining to watch other ppls drama. 

I love Shitou and Xiaotao scenes too. They are both protective of their master. Their master considere them family and treat them very well. 

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My two cents on the GTY vs QH debate. Taking 3 universal rules of love:

1. Faint heart ne'er won fair lady

2. All is fair in love and war

3. Bros' before hoes'

 

QH had made a clean break with ML before marriage. Sufficient/respectable amount of time had passed before GTY made his move. ML was a free agent about to be engaged to a third party. QH had no right to ask GTY to step aside as no 3 no longer applied.

 

I watched ep 38 raw and you can see how devasted she is when Dr He is weak to the cousin's theatrics. Shades of her father with Lin niang and Molan. GTY did ML a favour and opened her eyes to aspects of Dr He's character. Did GTY ruin marriage talks? Yes, but number 2 applies. 

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Didn't i tell u not to call me uncle!! Lol

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Anyone watching live...did the wedding happen in ep40?? I tried that live site posted earlier but it’s not loading properly. Thank you:D

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4 hours ago, gleek49 said:

 

The whole conversation (in the trailer) went like this:

QH: You know I love ML, why did you promise to Sheng house that you'll marry her? What do you want?

GTY: You're still thinking about ML? This I'm not aware of.

QH: Last time, when things were not certain, I'd already promise to her and I ended up not keeping the promise and broke her heart. So this time, I wanted to be sure, before come and ask for her again. (Your timing sucks, dude. If you didn't wait, you probably would have won her hand. I mean, GTY went to war for months!!)

GTY: I'm not blaming you, I'm just saying, if you meet obstacles, unable to marry her, then you can't blame me for fighting for her, even if I came later than you.

QH: It's not like you can't live without her?

GTY: How do you know that I can or can't live without her?

QH: How do you know that she's willing to marry you?

GTY: In order to marry her, I overcome all difficulties, fight with my life on the battlefield, pour my blood and risk my life, so that I can achieve what I have today. The result is like this now, if you can't accept that, then you can go ask her, ask her Grandmother!

 

So he didn't say that GTY was not good enough, he's just convinced that (1) he loves her first, GTY knows his love, so GTY is wrong for coming between them and (2) GTY doesn't love ML as much as him and (3) ML also doesn't want to marry GTY. I guess that this lead to QH go to find ML but was rejected by Grandmother. Probably, at this point, both ML and Grandma has accepted GTY's proposal. QH probably didn't know this, he just thought she was forced because Sheng house ran out of daughters.

 

I have my opinion, but I don't want to sound biased so I'm leaving this for you guys to interpret and dissect :))

 

 

Thank you for the translation. My opinion on QH didn’t change, this conversation is still wrong in so many ways but I won’t go into that cuz to each their own...

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3 minutes ago, hello210 said:

Anyone watching live...did the wedding happen in ep40?? I tried that live site posted earlier but it’s not loading properly. Thank you:D

U may try this link.. Better. 

http://m.zhiboba.org/pindao/hunanweishi.html

Unfortunately wedding wasn't happened tonight. 

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4 hours ago, gleek49 said:

 

In the book, the dynasty was all made up. The old emperor had a lot of sons to choose from: Yong Wang = 3rd prince, Yan Wang = 4th Prince and the new Emperor = 8th prince. The 8th prince was young and reigned for a long time. They are not allowed to portray fictional dynasty in broadcasted drama, so the scriptwriters had to find an actual historic time to fit with the story, that's why we have the drama set in Northern Song period and a father-son duo being emperors instead of just 1 prince. And I think this change is connected to GTY falls from grace arc. Because both of these changes are not in the book.

 

The reason I'm saying he's too paranoid is that I'm thinking he's going to suspect GTY and him ending up in prison will be because of his paranoia. Notice in ep 35, when the old emperor told the father-son duo about GTY's true heritage, the father's expression particularly worries me. It's like the first seed of distrust was planted that night. About the son, as we can see in ep 34-35, he seemed to fair much better than his father under pressure, much more ambitious and courageous, he wanted to tackle the matter head on like GTY, instead of hiding like his father. So maybe the father will distrust GTY (may be cause by some scheming from his enemy, aka his step mother), hence he ends up in prison, but the father passes away soon after that, the son becomes emperor and help clear GTY's name? Thanks to your insight of history, I'm even more convinced with this theory ;))

I saw the expression too & he had a worrisome expression when the previous emperor told him to never slight GTY & house of Gu & was praising him. GTY will probably go to prison cuz of him but will be released due to Ml & be demoted. He became a foot soldier again right? There will probably be another rebellion & he will be promoted again because of the son,the next emperor

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9 minutes ago, Lunkera said:

@hello210 Usually watch the raw episodes on youtube. the first one should be out within an hour.

Same here, but since I had time earlier this morning I was going to try and catch it live. Thanks :D

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8 hours ago, tomo74 said:

I understand why QH got upset with GTY (for chasing ML), I ask a question to you all, how do you feel if your friend (I'm not sure how close QH with GTY, but the closer the worst) going after your ex (we can say ML is QH's ex) who you still have feeling for? like there are so many girl out there but why you want mine, and in this case, GTY knows exactly QH's case (gave up ML because for her safety, not because he doesn't love/want her anymore). I'm not taking any side (GTY or QH) just not biased toward certain character.

If I were in QH’s shoes and my friend was going after my ex, I would feel sad but I would not go to my friend and ask her to break the relationship. Life never waits for anyone & if I had to be with someone else then I would expect my ex to find someone else sometime & be happy in their life. I will be sad at home but I won’t go confront my friend like QH did here cuz that’s just wrong...

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Why QH said those things to GTY:

- Nobody knows GTY was aiming for ML, on the outside ML was just a replacement for Rulan

- People knows that GTY once said he would only marry a di daughter => it's reasonable to assume he doesn't want ML

- GTY still has very bad reputation and now he's more popular just bc people are after his power and influence.

Viewers are supporting GTY bc we knows what is actually happening but from QH (and everyone else in the drama)'s POV, GTY doesn't love ML, is not a good future husband and is marrying ML by chance. Meanwhile QH loves her and his family has his back this time. So his conclusion and demand is justifiable. As long as ML is not married, the fight is still on.

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15 minutes ago, hello210 said:

Anyone watching live...did the wedding happen in ep40?? I tried that live site posted earlier but it’s not loading properly. Thank you:D

Based on 39,49 trailers I am guessing wedding will be in epi 41 but I will be happy to be proven wrong

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